Why is President Trump closer to Kim Jong-Un than Justin Trudeau

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   crankaliciousposted 7 years ago

   Has anyone else noticed this?
   
   President Trump is closer to and has more praise for Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-Un, Rodrigo Duterte, and Xi Jinping than he is/does with Angela Merkel, Justin Trudeau, and Emmanuel Macron.
   
   That seems extremely strange and perhaps, not a good thing for U.S. foreign policy.

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      PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. We have noticed. If we explain "why" Trump is closer to murdering dictators than our allies, we will be accused of hating Trump or being afflicted with TDS. And off we goooooo!!

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         crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Can I be hyperbolic and say that if you love Democracy, this should concern you. If you hate Democracy, you are probably unconcerned.

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      promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Well, yes. Canada is a big problem. For starters, I hate Justin Trudeau's hair.
      
      I also think we need to invade it for burning down the White House. 

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         PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         LOL

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         wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Would it be enough to burn just the parliament building in Ottawa, or do we have to burn the whole country?  Because, you know, those forest fires could do some damage to our northern residents. 
         
         I don't know about Trudeau's hair, but a recent visit to Vancouver told me they must have the worst traffic in the world.  Could we just do that city?

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            promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Wilderness, I'm delighted we agree on this issue. It proves differences of opinion can be overcome.
            
            I admit I'm follicly challenged and suffer from hair envy. And yes, I'm shamefully petty about Trudeau.
            
            But I don't care. If you look at the photo, I think we simply need to shoot a flare into the atmosphere above his perfect hair and ignite the fumes from his hairspray.
            
            It would set the entire country on fire.
            
            
            
            My apologies to Canadian citizens who see this post.

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            Aime Fposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            No! Take Toronto. Only the people who live there actually like it. You can still send a message without truly angering too many of us.

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               wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               

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               Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I agree, Aime! I was frozen in at the airport there in the middle of April.  I know now why Lewis Grizzard--a great Georgia native--referred to anything above Tennessee as "The Great Frozen North!"

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This thread is just Sad ,The Brilliance here of Never Trumpers is that their incessant lack of historical knowledge is astounding ,   Maybe if  liberals  actually thought once in a while or understood  eighth grade US history or maybe at least  took a foreign diplomacy  lesson they might ask , Does Justin Trudeau fire experimental nuclear rockets over other countries like North Korea at Japan ? Or perhaps  , Does Angela Merkel offer to shoot drug dealers on sight like Duarte ?   Or  even  , Is it Putin  that sends twelve year old soldiers out in the Sudan to do his political raping and torturing ? 
      
      Number one lesson ,Seventh grade government  lesson for Never Trumpers ;  Keep your friends  close ---and keep your known enemies closer than that ................really !

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         crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         What is hilarious is you claiming superiority in your knowledge of American history while simultaneously demonstrating the exact opposite. Exactly what historical precedent are you citing in this brilliant analysis?
         
         The issue here isn't the importance of negotiating or resolving our conflicts, the issue is offending and fighting with our allies and coddling, not just our enemies, but in some cases, insane people. And it's not even coddling, it's outright praise. As if shooting people in the street without due process and murdering people we don't like because they hold opposing political views is the proper role of a leader.
         
         An even more hilarious irony, most people with expertise in diplomatic history and American history are liberals. Wonder why.

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         PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         You're still amusing.

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      Eurofileposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Since the time of his shock election, President Trump hasn't failed to surprise onlookers with the decisions he has made, not to mention his tweets!

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   Aime Fposted 7 years ago

   Maybe his ego takes a real hit whenever the media posts their pictures side by side.

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      promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Are you saying that one has better hair than the other?

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   SweetiePieposted 7 years ago

   My two cents is to just ride it out and give real third parties a chance in 2020. It was not a popular sentiment, but neither party had the best candidate. I am not a Trump fan at all, but the amount of time and energy invested in following his every move is just not healthy. I am voting more Libertarian and third party since this last election, and looking to positive future candidates.

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      crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with your assessment of Trump Obsession Syndrome (way better idea than TDS). However, I don't know if I can vote Libertarian. Many of their candidates are crazy.
      
      That said, I got a call from the Democratic Party yesterday asking for money, to which I answered: "it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever give money to the Dems if they don't straighten out their national priorities and people."

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   JAKE Earthshineposted 7 years ago

   It's not that complicated when you think about it: If it looks, acts and quacks like a traitor, it probably is:
   
   The only time Mr. Trump appears happy and content in public is when he's either sabotaging our healthcare system, giving trillions to his elite Wall Street pals, crashing the stock market and our economy, degrading law enforcement, undermining democracy, NATO and our close allies or cavorting with our enemies whether it be Kim Jung Un or Russian spies: What does that tell you? It's actually pretty simple:
   
   Trump, Russian Spies, oval office, divulging top secret intel, obstruction of justice, treason, treachery:
   
   
   

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      crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Nobody is going to take you seriously if you claim that Trump has crashed the economy and the stock market since that clearly hasn't happen. In fact, so far, it's been the opposite.

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         JAKE Earthshineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         
         Well crankalicious, I really don't mind if anyone takes the truth seriously, but the truth is still the truth and the facts remain the facts: Everything I say is easily checked out with a simple search and I always encourage it:
         
         The fact is, Mr. Trump presides over the greatest stock market point crash in HISTORY due to his reckless big mouth, a massive crash that occurred in February of this year and a crash the Dow Jones has yet to recover from:
         
         Mr. Trump's nose bleed gas prices and other detrimental economic factors are crushing workers disposable income, not exactly a good thing:
         
         If anyone is interested in the facts, they can be found here:
         
         http://www.businessinsider.com/largest- … ory-2018-2

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            crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            That's different than what you said. A one day point drop in the stock market is common and not a crash. A crash is a sustained loss that happens over many days/weeks and doesn't recover immediately. A crash is a far bigger point drop than the one you cite. That so-called crash has recovered. In fact, it recovered rather fast, so that's not a crash.
            
            Please don't be so hyperbolic. I hate the man too, but to say he crashed the stock market is wrong.

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               JAKE Earthshineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               crankalicious, your last comment is so wrong and inaccurate that I don't even know how to respond to it so I won't: It's irrelevant where you got your faulty information but if you ever want readers to take you seriously in the future, you might think about refraining from posting such easily verifiable falsehoods:
               
               In reality, Mr. Trump caused the biggest Dow Jones point loss stock market crash in history, it occurred in FEB of this year, just ask floor specialists on Wall Street or better yet, just take a look at the chart below, and it has yet to recover:
               
               
               
               Furthermore, if Mr. Trump insists on falsely calling Justin Trudeau 'weak' because he's countering Donny's insane Russian applauded tariffs, he might wanna fix his face and hair and avoid looking like Obese Charlie Schlouch standing next to Clark Kent in the next photo op, if there ever is another one:
               
               

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                  crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I am not disputing your claim about a one-day drop, but the market has since recovered. The stock market goes up and down all the time.
                  
                  By making a claim that he crashed the market, you are not even making the right argument nor a valid one. I am on the anti-Trump side, but your claim is just fodder for the Right to claim the Left is as bad as they are. The stock market is quiet healthy right now and, rightly or wrongly, Trump gets to take some credit for it.

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                     JAKE Earthshineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     The stock market does indeed go up and down but In FEB 2018 the Dow Jones didn't just drop in historic fashion, it experienced the greatest point loss ever on Mr. Trump's watch, it crashed from a top of approx 26,500 down to approx 23,800 to where it stands today at approx. 25,400 which does not equate to a 'recovery':
                     
                     Eventually the stock market may recover but don't count on it with the most dangerous, corrupt, self absorbed and recklessly unstable oval office occupant in history who if we still have laws, should be imprisoned very soon and thank God for that:

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                        crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        I'm sure you can go look up the definition of a stock market crash, but that's not it. And the point loss isn't as relevant as the percentage of loss. By that calculation, the loss you cite isn't even in the top 20 of worst daily losses by percentage. The daily loss you are citing was 4.6% of the market. Of the top 20 largest daily losses in stock market history, all of them are above 7%, with the largest one being 23.52%.
                        
                        Please, please, please try to get your facts right.

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                           JAKE Earthshineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Well crankalicious, I'm not a Trump fan, I'm a Trump obstructionist like the overwhelming majority of Americans who are looking forward to the day when he's locked up behind bars, so unfortunately for your untrue flawed assessment, you'll never convince me that the sun isn't the sun or the moon isn't the moon, or a 1200 point correction to the down side in the Dow Jones is not a major stock market crash, but I'm sure Trump sheep would enjoy your interpretation:

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                              crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              What I presented you with was fact and math is important. You're presenting the anti-Trump argument with Trump logic/hyperbole, which I think is detrimental to truth. A 1200 point drop when the market is at 26,000 is not the same as a 700 point drop when the market is at 10,000. Do you know which one is worse? The way you are presenting your argument suggest to me that you do not. A "crash" is a defined thing and a one-day drop in the market of approximately 4% is not a crash.

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                                 JAKE Earthshineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Here's one definition of a 'stock market crash': Instead of trying to convince me that the sun isn't the sun like most cultish Trump fans always do but are unsuccessful, try dealing with the facts:
                                 
                                 "A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a significant cross-section of a stock market, resulting in a significant loss of paper wealth. Crashes are driven by panic as much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock market bubbles."
                                 
                                 This is EXACTLY what occurred in FEB 2018 under Mr. Trump's watch:

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                                    crankaliciousposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    Nope, still wrong. In every major stock market crash, the crash started a bear market. This, in effect, defines a crash. The market goes from a bull market to a bear market and substantial wealth is eliminated. It's not a crash if the wealth is regained the next day or the next week and the market continues moving upward. A single, one-day, 4% drop is not considered a crash. A crash, also by definition, involves something broken. Also not the case.
                                    
                                    Now, if you want to argue that Trump is seeding the market with the elements necessary for a crash, like deregulation, that's another story. We may see a crash soon, but we have not seen one yet.
                                    
                                    What you saw - the 1200 point drop - was a market correction, and I'm not even sure it was that, since the drop wasn't sustained for any period of time.

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                                       JAKE Earthshineposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       I give up crankilicious, but I'm sure you've managed to convince a few Trump sheep that the sun is the moon, but not me:
                                       
                                       BTW: Almost everything about Trump's economy is 'broken'

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   Moderndayslaveposted 7 years ago

   I find it simply amazing how people bash Trump just for sake of being butt hurt because crooked Hillary lost . As far as economic ruin , ask some families how much they had to pay for the unaffordable health care act . That was a give me to insurance companies and welfare recipients . All which fell like a ton of bricks on the backs of the middle class

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      Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I don't dislike him because HRC lost. I dislike him because he's a pathological liar and doesn't have a clue what he's doing. Not to mention his bromance with Putin.  So, you're wrong about why people don't like him. There are many, many reasons to do so.  Try again!

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   What a joke this thread is !     Note ;     Trump is highly, highly  , extremely highly unlikely to ever be impeached ---reality check ---- it never happens , but especially at the request of minor obstructionist mental breakdowns .   More and more I'm reminded that Trump resister's are simply like thirteen year old girls at a pajama party picking pillows next to the host or the otherwise most popular girl there ?
   
   Somebody prove me wrong .

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      Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A famous quote from GW Bush
      
      The terrorist never stop thinking of ways of harming us, and neither do we.
      
      Blowing things up, is Trumps style. Not even hundreds of phycologist testimonials of mental illness can bring down Trump. Maybe a Nuke.

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