How could we get "Back to the Garden"...?

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   ... whatever that phrase means.

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      ahorsebackposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Greetings Kathryn !
      
      Answer, Individually .

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      The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I recognize that phrase is relating to the metaphor of Adam and Eve being evicted from the garden. It reads in the KJV "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."
      
      I interpret it as...
      We must pass through a "flaming sword" to get back in it. Flames represent purifiers and suggest our minds have to be purified from the "knowledge of good and evil". Swords cuts and related to what was said just after Eve was woven out of Adam that reads, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh," means we must be cut away from the individual human families for becoming the whole family of man.
      
      That interpretation is how we get "back to the garden" of god with the life of the Buddha being a prime example and metaphor of achieving it.
      
      When put in context with my own experiences becoming "The0NatureBoy" that means I have lived lived environmentally and civilized, chosen environmental living over civilized but an living with one foot in each for sharing the understanding my experiences have taught me, that is how I interpret that.

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         Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Don't met many Christians deep into the natural environment living, good for you and the earth.
         
         I lived off grid 3 different times, a musician wrote and sang a song about me called, Nature Boy. We must have something in common. Probably because I professional build sandcastle too.
         
         Once they are allowed us to replace snytheic energy with Wind , solar , geo thermal and bio fuel energy. There is no stopping us from turning back this planet to green again.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            so the work would involve embracing nature and living in harmony with it. It means embracing the science of nature?

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               The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Yes Kathryn, according to my interpretation of existence.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I like making portraits in the sand.

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            The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Castlepaloma, the "Nature Boy" song Nat King Cole produced could be about both of us if that is the one you are preferring to but that matters not in this discussion.
            
            According to my interpretation of biblical prophetic types, I've written a hub about Samson's, we are within 10 years of this civilization's destruction with only five of the ten virgins to survive it in order to replenish the earth for the following spiritual civilization.
            With that said, becoming nature boys and girls is the only means to survive in Armageddon during the spilling of the "red sea of blood" by the "Battle of That Great Day of God Almighty" leaving no humans alive. That means we return to living without material goods made by man and live like the other animals as the Genesis' creation suggest all man (minds able to understand all things) and human/woman (minds unable to comprehend all things) were before humans became "daughters of men" at the flood.

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               Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I've tried and tried to understand this Christianity, yet it's too contradictive for me. I do sense a great destruction is on it's way, just not a total wipeout. It is why I'm immigrating to South America. Then feel a spiritual age will evolve.
               It's sound like you are getting prepared some how.

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                  ahorsebackposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Good luck with that South American lifestyle ..........
                  
                  

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                     Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     Those must be boarder Mexican.
                     You can destroy them by US legalized marijuana

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                        ahorsebackposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        The guy who sold me the photo said they were Colombian legislators  ?.............:-]

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                           Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           The old 70s part of 80s there were lots of Colombian cartel bad boy.  Today, drugs can be grown locally cheaper, like across the border.

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                  The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Castlepaloma, although I didn't know it until I actually went through what is biblically called "New Birth" with a testimony of a conception in 1973, gestating until late '75 and trivial until August 6, 1976 when I was reborn I have always been preparing for it. Because of that preparing I have been revealed the message of "Life on Earth" so all who are destined to survive it can.
                  
                  If the truth be known, everything anybody does is preparing for that although only, per Bible, 5% of us will survive it for replenishing the earth for the next civilization. The law of life on earth is reincarnating to experience every experience of all matter and life gets to experience and what all of my writings are about. I was raised on the Bible which was the first book I learned to read, if I make no mistake in my memory, and I always questioned everything I read so the new birth answered the questions I had.

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   ahorsebackposted 3 years ago

   I believe that for those of us who are lucky enough to do that , It comes with age , wisdom , and a profound sense of needing to be close to nature .

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, ahorseback. The garden could also mean the Garden of Eden where we (human beings) were unpolluted with .... ?

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         Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Dam, if she just did not bite into that healthy apple, we would not be living into such a snytheic world as we are today.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            ... that apple must have been tasty.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   darn apple. (or pomegranate.)

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      The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      The fruit is called "Knowledge of Goof and Evil", Kathryn,  and is eaten mentally. The evidence that one has eaten it is the multitude of "Judgmental Adjectives" we use daily. If you have noticed I use them only in explanations.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I hope you meant Good

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            The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            No I do not mean "good", Kathryn, I mean things ARE WHAT THEY ARE by the definition of their nomenclatures.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   Supposedly, we are at the lower end of the higher ages! and we are all becoming more enlightened. What will the higher ages be like? How are things improving? Consider that 2012 marked a time of a change toward .... ?

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      The smartest man in the history of mankind just got con by the smartest human. They are both a little on the dumb side in my books.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I agree humans will soon enough will be advancing civilization again. Once we get rid of Trump and get this monkey God off our backs.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Kathryn, we are constantly moving toward enlightenment, the only problem is, when using the 10 virgins parable, we each are in one timeline consisting of 10% of the world's end population. If correct it means we are one of no less than 10 billion different incarnations as human but WE ARE all moving toward enlightenment with each incarnation.

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   Live to Learnposted 3 years ago

   We can't individually get back to the Garden of Eden, without collectively doing it on some level. Because you may feel you are there, but another must see you as there for anyone to know it happened.
   
   I see some here think it was about sex. It was more about a negative judgement. They chose to see nakedness as embarrassing. Not that I'm advocating ripping our clothes off. But, the judgement was made. They determined one state as being more desirable than another. And started the slippery slope of determining right from wrong when they looked upon another.
   
   That is where most of our misery begins. Judging and being judged. Castle, very eloquently, demonstrates that point in his posts on the subject. I've just demonstrated it with the previous statement. It's an unending merry go round.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Learn to Live, I agree existence is an unending merry-go-round and I use the Phoenix metaphor to explain it,
      
      God is the Phoenix representing the entire "Zeroverse" [my term because of the incarnated times and the discarnated times of its life-force]. The story say the phoenix sits doing nothing for 500 years [I don't know of what cycles] then builds a nest and burns itself into ashes. It doesn't say but I say it remains ashes for as long as it was the Sunbird then becomes an egg to hatch back into a living from. At the junction of the ashes becoming egg the old life-force leaves and another replaces it to bring it back to life. That is like one of our days with two transitions, one from a dark world into a light and another back dark with, per the Genesis account, 7 day between the evening civilization to Adam and Eve's sunrising this world's morning that was completed at the flood and then 7 days back to Revelation 21's evening civilization. In that way there is no need for a creator god because it's life-force goes through the same Karma cycles we go through.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   well, I think we (original creations/humans) had sex when we knew we weren't supposed to. Why did we DO IT if we knew we weren't supposed to?
   what was the actual consequence?
   If Joni Mitchell knew what "going back to the garden" really meant, she wouldn't have sung those words.
   
   
   It's too restrictive for this day and age ... or any age, probably.
   what ... no sex?
   what ... no EGO?

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      The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Kathryn, if you take the 7 times over Nebuchadnezzar lived like any other animal (Daniel 4:33) and apply that to the 7 days of creation you would realize the sex during those days was like all other animals. You would recognize they were hairy all over including boys' foreskins. Add Adan nor Eve knew anything about mating except in their observing the other animals who's penises protruded beyond the foreskin when human boys' don't. That would mean they didn't know to pull the foreskin back like pulling on a condom to mate, so, because of their having the "knowledge of good and evil" they were naked of that understanding and ashamed to ask the voice how to do it [that is where ego began] and covered their organs out of being too ashamed to ask the voice how to mate, after all, they had been naming all the birds and animals and thought they knew everything. So, upon exiting environmental living the hair was removed from their bodies allowing them to use the foreskin during mating and when we return to ecological living we will have to know to do it that way.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         You remember all this?

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            The0NatureBoyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            No, Kathryn, I don't remember that. The symbols of the "verbal jigsaw puzzle," the bible, caused me to realize that after seeing the picture each concept presented to my mind by what the words said.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   So in summary on this Sunday, going "back to the garden" means no ego. It means loving all as creations of God and ultimately God who is the life force, love, and intelligence behind the veil of material reality ...
   
   TWISI

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   When we are all on the same page with the desire to live for reality, we will be headed back to the garden. It takes work. "The harvest is abundant, but the workers are few." That's what Jesus said.
   
   What sort of work would that be?
   What is the harvest?

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   -maybe if we can see something great and awesome behind nature and revere and respect it enough to give up our little wants and trivial gratifications ... to see the big picture ... to care about our homes, cities, states, nations, continents and world and take our lives seriously
   
   ... on an individual basis, as horseback said.

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