New York Times is the "enemy of the people".

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   crankaliciousposted 6 years ago

   President Trump said it again in relation to Don McGann cooperating with Robert Mueller's team. The failing New York Times (it's subscriptions and stock have actually been going up) is the enemy of the people.
   
   Tell me, when one of Trump's supporters walks into their offices with a gun and starts shooting or Jim Acosta is assaulted live on the air, what will President's Trump complicity in that be?

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      PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      A leader must take responsibility for how he speaks about his fellow Americans. Trump is fueling a hatred for the media among his supporters. While one can never know for certain how much effect it has on an already unstable, angry mind, it is clear that Trump supporters listen to their dear leader and believe what he says.
      
      He would not be directly responsible for the attack, but he would be, and already is, responsible for fomenting hatred that will almost inevitably  lead to violence.
      
      Stalin would be proud.
      
      We, as Americans who stand for freedom of the press, must rid ourselves of this low, low man. He is systemarically damaging the institutions that would keep him in check.

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      Ken Burgessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I fail to see how stating the obvious is some sort of incitement to violence.
      
      When Madonna says she wants to blow up the WH that could be considered incitement.
      
      When Depp says he thinks someone should assassinate the President, that could be considered incitement.
      
      Both those statements speak of actual violent, criminal activity, and are purported/conveyed in a way that might make one of their 'fans' go off the deep end trying to accomplish said act to appease them.
      
      Trump's statement that the NY Times is a failing entity (most would consider this true, as are almost all newspapers) and that they are an enemy of the American people (many would also consider this true, as they push a socialist and anti-American perspective most people don't agree with) does not incite people to violence.

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   Live to Learnposted 6 years ago

   What is anyone's complicity when someone they know and speak to, or are heard by, commits violence? Were someone to assassinate Trump are all those who have called for violence to be blamed?
   
   Sorry crank. This is another foolish and ill thought question.

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      crankaliciousposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I definitely disagree. Trump is calling for violence against the media. He is the POTUS. More people hear his words than virtually anyone else in the world. He is calling the media and specifically the NYT the "enemy of the people". It is inviting violence.
      
      And if somebody is calling for violence against President Trump and calling for him to be assassinated, then they are complicit. The only difference is that far fewer people hear the words of some crazy person than read the tweets of the POTUS.
      
      And just btw, if my neighbor is Arabic and I incite my neighbors to burn his house down, I am complicit and should be subject to legal action.
      
      Or let me offer another analogy: the 7th grade transgender girl in Oklahoma who used the girl's bathroom (she was born a boy) and some parents called for acts of violence against her. When she's found dead in a garbage can somewhere, are those parents just innocent in the whole affair?

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         promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         In law, it's called "depraved indifference" homicide.
         
         I should know. I watch "Law & Order" every Sunday morning on TNT. 

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   Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago

   I remember when Cannabis was public enemy no.1.  It turns out it the most important plant in the world.
   
   We do need news to get an Idea what is happening around the world. Yes, much of news is fake, we need to clean it up. But taking news from a fascist bum like Trump is far worst. He will tell you fracking oil and coal mining is making America great again and white supremest are good people.  I can't wail to have an orgy in the dirty oil swamps of beauro- crocks.

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   Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago

   I remember when Cannabis was public enemy no.1.  It turns out it is the most important plant in the world.
   
   We do need news to get an Idea what is happening around the world. Yes, much of news is fake, we need to clean it up. But taking news from a fascist bum like Trump is far worst. He will tell you fracking oil and coal mining is making America great again and white supremest are good people.  I can't wail to have an orgy in the dirty oil swamps of bu·reau- crocks.

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   IslandBitesposted 6 years ago

   FBI arrests man who threatened to kill Boston Globe staff for criticizing Trump
   
   FBI says Robert Chain began a series of threatening calls after the newspaper announced it was coordinating a response to Trump’s attacks on the media
   
   A man has been arrested and charged with threatening to kill employees of the Boston Globe newspaper, in messages repeating Donald Trump’s claims that journalists are the “enemy of the people” and “fake news”.
   
   Robert Chain called the Globe’s newsroom and claimed he would shoot staff members in the head, according to the FBI, which said Chain later specified that he was retaliating against the newspaper’s criticism of Trump’s attacks on the news media.
   
   Chain, of Encino, California, owns several firearms and was found to have purchased a new 9mm carbine rifle in May this year, according to US authorities.
   
   In an affidavit filed to federal court in Boston, the FBI said Chain began a series of 14 threatening calls to the Globe soon after the newspaper announced on 10 August that it was coordinating a response by US publications to Trump’s attacks.
   
   Chain allegedly called the Globe from a blocked number on 16 August and said: “You’re the enemy of the people, and we’re going to kill every fucking one of you.” After suggesting that staff call special counsel Robert Mueller for help, Chain allegedly said: “I’m going to shoot you in the fucking head later today, at four o’clock.” Telephone records traced the call back to Chain’s home landline, the FBI said.
   
   That morning, Trump had posted several attacks on the media to Twitter, complaining about “fake news” and declaring that the media was “opposition party” and “very bad for our great country”.
   
   Six days later, Chain allegedly called the newspaper from a cellphone registered to his wife. When asked by a Globe employee why he was calling, Chain allegedly said: “Because you are the enemy of the people.”
   
   Chain allegedly continued: “As long as you keep attacking the president, the duly elected president of the United States, in the continuation of your treasonous and seditious acts, I will continue to threat, harass, and annoy the Boston Globe, owned by the New York Times, the other fake news.”

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      GA Andersonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Calling from his home phone, and his wife's cell phone ... smart guy.
      
      ... and a dangerous guy.
      
      GA

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         PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         He probably thought he was safe, righteously  fighting the enemy of the people for his president.

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            wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            It's called "insanity" and no different than those that kill or otherwise cause harm because their god wants them to.  And not a LOT different than those that hear the voices inside their heads telling them what to do.  It's still insanity - a mind that is not operating correctly.

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               Don Wposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               You seem very certain. Is there any evidence this man has been diagnosed with a mental illness that caused his behavior, or are you speculating?
               
               Is it not also entirely possible that he's just a moron who has been influenced by others.

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               PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Are you now diagnosing mental illness from afar? I thought it was your position that even trained mental health professionals, armed with massive amounts of video, audio, and print evidence, should refrain from describing our President as mentally ill. Now, here you are using the term "insanity* when describing this man. How do you reconcile these two things?

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Blame the media itself for inciting hatred ,creating public division , beginning a war against the constitutional powers that protect the three branches of government BY CREATING ANOTHER , The National Department of a Biased News Media .
   NDBNM.
   
   It's difficult to feel too bad for the people who incite hatred .

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      GA Andersonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Lordy Lordy, ahorseback. Do you understand the door you have opened?
      
      GA

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Ken , What's the matter with you , Haven't you learned to select your own particular outrage from the brown bag  of ALL outrages ?
   IT HAS TO FIT your ideological agenda or it's simply not an outrage at all ?

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