Will Shocking Allegations About Brett Kavanaughs Past Doom Him?
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is it true and should cowardly complicit republicans agree to investigate the claims to find out? Of course they should but they probably won't, just like they've refused to live up to their oaths of office: In a normal, functioning American society which we are unfortunately light years away from at this point in time and may never get back to, an allegation of sexual misconduct toward a nominee for the highest court in the land would absolutely spell doom for confirmation: First of all, I’m not even sure a mentally unsound un-indicted co-conspirator like Donald Trump has the legal authority to nominate a supreme court candidate, and that’s what some experts are calling him now after Michael Cohen confessed that he instructed him to commit a federal crime, and secondly, if it were legally acceptable, can’t republicans find a candidate who hasn’t been alleged to have engaged in serious criminal sexual acts?I think the FBI's disinterest in a presumed allegation from am unnamed source pretty much sums up the gravity of the situation.
The lynch mob mentality of the left got shut down on this one.FYI, actually, it's not the FBI's job to investigate allegations of sexual crimes by a supreme court nominee, it's the job of congress but unfortunately it appears as if many crazy republican congress-persons have also been compromised by Vladimir Putin or at least that's exactly how they act, this includes sleepy complicit worms like Lindsey Graham: So, unfortunately , there will probably be no probe to determine if these serious allegations are true of not which is nothing less than an egregious disservice to our once great country: As if republicans even care:
If the allegations were serious, there should have been an investigation years and years ago.
I know facts and reason can prove an impediment to mud slinging but you will just have to deal with the facts and the propensity of some to apply reason to their views.
You are really on a roll Jake.
One mysterious anonymous '11th hour' letter - presented by the opposition, and you are ready to hang the guy.
Yet you give no credence to a letter signed by 65 former female acquaintances. Great balance; One anonymous letter that suits your bias versus 65 signers that counter Ms. Anonymous.
It also seems that to you, the apparent dismissal by the FBI and 12 or 15 years of bipartisan acclaimed judgeship don't hold water next to that one anonymous letter that suits your bias.
If only we would all just see things the way you do...
[ADDED] If we can believe the media talking heads, Fienstein's Democrat associates aren't real happy with her tactics either. It appears they can see how the general non-Jake public are perceiving her action.
GAWell GA, my guess is that sexual predators typically don't assault every woman they come in contact with and yes, here in the USA, just one crime of sexual misconduct is enough for you to serve a prison sentence and of course just one confirmed incident would negate all the other women who claim he's just a beattie eyed harmless little man:
Just like one murder or one burglary or one count of conspiracy against the USA is quite enough to convict a person:
In a normally functioning, non-crumbling, non-corrupt democracy complete with republican congress-persons who did not seem to be under the big red thumb of Vladimir Putin, this allegation against Kavanaugh would be thoroughly investigated and vetted before a vote, but we both know that won't happen right? Complicit frantically frightened republicans are gonna try to jam this guy through faster than Bozo Trump peddled and jammed his 'Trump University Diplomas':Not anonymous anymore.
Woman who accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her as a teen reveals herself to be a University professor, aged 51, as she goes public with her harrowing account
Christine Blasey Ford is going public with her allegations against Kavanaugh
She described to The Washington Post how he attacked her in high school
She said he pinned her down, covered her mouth and tried to rip off her swimsuit
She said she felt like she had to come forward as the stories about the letter grew
'I feel like my civic responsibility is outweighing my anguish and terror about retaliation,' she told The Washington Post
Ford is a professor at Palo Alto University and originally spoke on the incident in 2012 when she was in couples therapy with her husband
Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who wrote the letter accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, is going public with her story, saying she thought he might kill her.
'I thought he might inadvertently kill me,' said Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California, to The Washington Post. 'He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.'
Ford said she was able to escape when Kavanaugh's classmate at Georgetown Preparatory School, Mark Judge, jumped on top of them and sent them tumbling.
She told the newspaper she ran from the room, briefly locked herself in a bathroom and then fled the house where the party was taking place.
Ford described the attack as taking place during the summer in the early 1980s, when Kavanaugh and a friend — both 'stumbling drunk,' Ford charges — corralled her into a bedroom during a gathering of teenagers at a house in Montgomery County.
While his friend watched, Ford recounts to The Post, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding against and attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it.
She said she tried to scream and he put his hand over her mouth.
Ford said she didn't tell anyone about the incident until 2012 when she was in couples therapy with her husband.
She gave portions of the therapist's notes to The Post.
The newspaper notes they do not mention Kavanaugh by name but say she was attacked by students 'from an elitist boys' school' who went on to become 'highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.'
Additional notes show she described a 'rape attempt' in her late teens.Well that's a plus. One of the negatives knocked down. Now we wait for 'the rest of the story'.
A serious question ... Is an allegation without corroboration enough, or is Kavanaugh getting 'Borked'?
GAINSANE: This is absolutely outrageous and if GA wasn't one of the last remaining Trump fans associated with the rapidly shrinking republican party, I think he'd think so as well:
UNREAL and Outrageous: What else is tucked away in thousands of pages of documents on Kavanaugh the Russian Republican Congress refuses to disclose to the public and why are they trying to ram him through at light speed without a proper vetting and investigation?
So now, according to the latest shocking press releases, Brett's accuser has made herself known and she says he tried to or perhaps even succeeded in raping her violently, and she has the positive polygraph test as proof which corroborates her recollection of this horrific crime: UNREAL:
I never trust anyone with beattie little shifty eyes and it looks like my assumptions might just be dead on accurate again:
Will Brett 'Beattie Eyes' Kavanot be willing to take a polygraph so we the people can compare the results ??? Apparently, not only did he have a problem with alcohol according to reports, but he's now officially according to press reports, an alleged rapist: UNREAL, but what else could we possibly expect from a disgusting Trump nominee??
"California professor, writer of confidential Brett Kavanaugh letter, speaks out about her allegation of sexual assault"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig … 63219c1e45Jake, your outrageous rhetoric makes rational discussion impossible.
Have at it bud. If it turns out my caution was misplaced, I will be the first to say so. In this case, I think it is possible it was, (although I am still not discounting political chicanery, or misinterpretations), but will wait for the story to play out.
You, on the other hand, make outlandish claims and assumptions on the barest possibility of being in the proximity of a fact.
But hang in there, it seems many enjoy your style. And if you do turn out to be right on this one, just imagine the possibilities. You might see Earthshine and Nostradamus in the same sentence somewhere.
GAMost of my 'outlandish claims' usually turn out to be fact GA:
Instead of taking out your Kavanaugh frustration on me, why not do the right thing and call for 'beattie eyes' Brett to take a polygraph? It's the only possible way to find out how truthful his claims are right?
What else is hidden in the tens of thousands of documents now being concealed by the Russian Republican Congress? Would you like to join me in calling for their immediate release?Name one of those claims that has been proven as fact. Must have happened while I was busy working. I've sure never seen such.
Gotta go with Wesman on this one; I've asked over and over and over for proof or even evidence your claims are true but you've not given a single instance of proof yet. The normal method has been to change topics and make yet MORE unsubstantiated claims while ignoring the first set as well as the request for proof.
By now you should know it’s never about proof. Libs can’t even allow the concept of proof to be established because then they would have to allow that there can be proof of Democrat corruption which of course there never is because if they just ignore the topic of proof, in their chimera it doesn’t even exist.
He tends to say, 'where are the moderators?' and 'that's a personal attack' when someone questions his hyperbolic statements.
I've wondered if Jake wasn't a Randy sock account.Never thought of that...haven't seen Randy for a while now, though.
GA
There have been a lot of uncouth, even unseemly events and statements made during the Trump era, on both sides. But I don't think any situation, any event, in the past few years has crystalized the current state of affairs, and how these two 'sides' operate more than this situation
It is clear to me based on how this information was saved for the very last moment, that this was timed exactly for the purposes of delaying the vote on his confirmation. The Democrats are in essence using the accusation of sexual harassment/assault for purely political purpose.
The efforts made by Senator Gillibrand and others to make this accusation of a 35 year old hazy and unsure of where or when it happened event to be considered fact, and the likes of 'news reporters' like Maddow stating matter-of-factly that he should be in jail, exposes the 'Left's' leaders and voices as willing to lie, deceive and falsify anything, against anyone, to further their political goals.
I don't know how any rational person could look at this situation and not be appalled that this is what our country's leadership and discourse has fallen to.
When the Republicans wanted to block a Supreme Court nominee vote two years ago, they just didn't vote, they didn't destroy the person's character and reputation.
And when Republicans didn't have the vote, they allowed Obama nominees to go through without much hardship at all.
The Democrats in my views have become a party of the despicable and immoral, where once I voted on the merit of the politician, today I have to assess these state of affairs and conclude I can only vote along party lines because the other side has become irrational, immoral, and anti-American, their actions against this nominee just confirm this.So well said. Hillary wants to know why she lost? Why many Dems have finally jumped ship? You have summed it up very nicely. Although the Dems are well known for being despicable, they have delved into being downright evil, as well as scary to anyone with a bit of common sense. How did we the people ever let them evolve into this evil machine?
How quickly Trump fans forget the willful abominations: Bozo Trump actually endorsed a man who some said engaged in perverted relationships with children: HOW evil is that??:
You can't really be serious Ken, to my knowledge no Dems told their constituents to vote for an alleged child molester but guess who embraced him and gleefully endorsed him? YES, the most vile, disgusting, incompetent nazi sympathizer on the planet, Donald 'Bozo John' Trump did:
And now, he's got more serious problems with an alleged attempted rapist named Brett Kavanot: Bozo Trump has tried to normalize evil, disgusting and abominable behavior for which he and his fake christian pals like Jerry Falwell Junior will pay dearly for once God takes them from this Earth: I'm sure Bozo Trump knows he's going straight to hell and at this point, he's just trying to take as many gullible souls down with him, that's just how sick narcissists operate:
FYI Sharlee01: President Hillary WON the vote however Vladimir Putin was responsible for Mr. Trump now polluting our oval office:So odd, President Trump just gave Russia Hell in his Un Speech this AM? I guess you did not tun in? You are so redundant, you are caught up in the Dems circle of destroying Trump. Are you not a bit dizzy? Oh, they are almost done with the sex abuse BS and soon will head on back to Russia or maybe racism? Around and around you go... Wee
" In a normal, functioning American society which we are unfortunately light years away from at this point in time and may never get back to, an allegation of sexual misconduct toward a nominee for the highest court in the land would absolutely spell doom for confirmation: "
Does The name Associate Justice of the Supreme Court Clarence Thomas ring a bell Jake? Maybe Google his name. Yeah, do that.
"First of all, I’m not even sure a mentally unsound un-indicted co-conspirator like Donald Trump has the legal authority to nominate a supreme court candidate, and that’s what some experts are calling him now after Michael Cohen confessed that he instructed him to commit a federal crime"
None of what you said makes sense or is it true. Refocus.
"can’t republicans find a candidate who hasn’t been alleged to have engaged in serious criminal sexual acts?"
Dos the name Bill Clinton ring a bell or how about Ted Kennedy? You know the one that left a woman in a car, went to a motel and got a good night sleep before reporting it?
"Brett Kavanaughs" is a well-educated, successful judge with an exemplary reputation as a husband, father, and Judge.
Seem so odd you continually show disdain to very successful people, mostly men? Sad traitInteresting fact. The gentleman Ford claimed witnessed her alleged attack has sent a letter to Eric Bruce to the Senate Judiciary Committee obtained and reported by CNN. The letter added as a resource. This man has denied ever being at such party or witnessing such attack. We now have one witness that disputes Fords account. As of yet, Ford cannot produce the home, the date or anything to prove her allegations. No one has stepped forward to being at said party? I like to follow facts that are at least backed up by a face and a name. His name is Mr. Patrick J. Smyth. Ms. Ford has produced nothing except accounts of a crime. She has made claims that she told her therapist, and husband, as well as taken a lie detector test that was done by an unknown individual. None of her evidence has been provided. No names, no results of any test. Just claims. Claims she will not even step up and confront the man she is accusing. She leaked her own story, yet claimed she did not want to be identified. None of this is pausable or believable without presenting her truth.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36053/an … es-barrettVery misleading Sharlee01: WHY not tell the entire story that the same witness you're quoting has apparently written about being a BLACK OUT Drunk:
Yes, according to investigative reports, it's true and the alleged victim says beattie eyes Brett was abusing alcohol that night as well:
"Brett Kavanaugh’s High School Friend Isn’t Helping the Nominee’s Case"
"The alleged witness in the Kavanaugh case wrote a memoir about his own schoolboy days as blackout drunk."
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 … n-alcohol/Mother Jones is communist trash. Are you a Bolshevik?
WRONG as usual Wesman but that's not surprising coming from one of the last remaining Trump fans: I think you might have Mother Jones confused with the orange traitor blob perched in our oval office: To my knowledge, Mother Jones never attended a public conference with our arch enemy Vladimir Putin only to betray the USA in front of millions of witnesses by supporting his lies over our own law enforcement agencies but guess who did commit that atrocity? Yup, Putin's little poodle Bozo Trump did:
Let's just pray this is another of this disgraceful clowns crimes that Mueller makes him pay dearly for or God help this rapidly decaying country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtsNNXjBPw
Keep digging on that Kavanaugh thing, I'm pretty sure you'll discover that the tainted witness you and Sharlee01 are relying upon did indeed write about his 'Black Out' drunk episodes:11 One day he went into the house to attend to his duties, and none of the household servants was inside. 12 She caught him by his cloak and said, “Come to bed with me!” But he left his cloak in her hand and ran out of the house.
13 When she saw that he had left his cloak in her hand and had run out of the house, 14 she called her household servants. “Look,” she said to them, “this Hebrew has been brought to us to make sport of us! He came in here to sleep with me, but I screamed. 15 When he heard me scream for help, he left his cloak beside me and ran out of the house.”
16 She kept his cloak beside her until his master came home. 17 Then she told him this story: “That Hebrew slave you brought us came to me to make sport of me. 18 But as soon as I screamed for help, he left his cloak beside me and ran out of the house.”
Your 'progressive' Potiphar's wife doesn't even have a bit of a cloak to use as fake evidence.
It's really shameful that anyone would believe anything at all this wretched 'progressive' woman has to say.
Perhaps when this is over, she'll have to be institutionalized in perpetual disgrace.
I'm certain your fantasies will, however, continue.
Please read the letter he put out yesterday. I posted the link in one of my previous posts. He stated he never saw the judge participate in drunkenness. I am just posting a fact. Could care less about any book he wrote only about what he said about the judge's character. No one has really stepped up for her but a women's group? One would think friends from high school would step up?
And did that women's group corroborate her story with witnesses or just say "Well, she must be right because old claims are the 'in' thing to do now"?
The women that signed the letter were alumnae of Holton-Arms where Ford claimed to have attended. They are blindly standing behind her, none actually being acquainted with her. It's a sad state of affairs when this kind of claim can be made without any evidence. What is all the sadder is women support this kind of justice condemn without proof?
http://time.com/5398761/julia-louis-dre … asey-ford/
Brett Kavanaugh has had 65 women that have worked with him and have been friends of his from his high school years that are willing to support his good character. with a document.Sharlee, there are 599 alumnae from Christine Blasey Ford’s high school who signed a letter saying they support her,
“Ford’s experience is all too consistent with stories we heard.”
Of course none of them say they heard anything about Kavanaugh, they don’t even know Blasey, they just say they believe her because of things they heard? Hearsay?
How contrived is that? Someone is telling them what to say.
While the 65 who signed for Kavanaugh (and I heard the list is now at 300) knew and know him personally, dated him, worked with him, you name it, they actually knew him and aren't basing anything they say on hearsay!
With no proof you have no problem smearing a person. Doesn't speak well of your current or future credibility.
Well, they're only allegations at this point. But if solid evidence surfaces that tells us he may actually have done this, it will be over for him.
Well said. I think that goes both ways. If no one steps up to corroborate her story she will be left to live with accusing a man of something he may not have done. I think we are forgetting he is willing to face her, she is not willing to face him. He has a witness that she named as being there, that claims he was not. So far that is the only evidence that has been offered. I do know she has made many claims without any form of evidence. I would be happy to have her produce the lie detector results. This would show she is truthful on at least one count. Perhaps produce her medical records from her psychologist for the committee to have a look at. If she is not willing to produce evidence this should be dropped.
I just knew it! Ford demands she not face her accuser, not be under oath, not not not... LOL As I have stated seems very odd the media has not tracked her down for a comment. LOL
Sadly, this person has been confirmed & sworn in as Supreme Court Judge. Time for ……..WAR. This man is totally against women's rights.
Why do you say that? Because he won't legislate from the bench as you want him to?
- Ed Fisherposted 6 years ago
0So says Sen.Diane Feinstein who had a Chinese government worker as her official driver for over twenty years ? Yea right Jake.................... we all believe both of you .
More nonsense and nobody even knows what you're talking about Ed Fisher, or whatever, but wouldn't you prefer a 'clean person' with a proven record of not sexually assaulting women to serve as a supreme court justice? Or has Bozo Trump degraded this once great nation to the point of below average and perhaps criminal behavior is acceptable for our supreme court, after all, look at the clown who has the keys to our oval office:
But then again, I'm not even sure a 'clean', honorable and respecatble republican nominee exists so I guess perhaps we'll have to settle for a less than acceptable nominee who could care less about a woman's rights and can't wait to get all up into a woman's privacy:
I'm pretty sure decent and sensible people are so sick and tired of the fake and last minute sexual assault games that they'll fly about as far with us as CNN's fake news. Mr. K will be confirmed, and the nation will be better for it.
Can't wait for Ginsberg to be replaced. That'll be really exciting.CNN's doing soo well they've lost 41 % of their viewers in a year ".......when will they ever learn ....when wiiiill they eveerrr learn "
You said the same nonsense when you were ahorseback:
In reality, CNN is fine, but the republican party is hemorrhaging profusely because they actually have who is now referred to as an unhinged un-indicted co-conspirator as their orange false prophet leader:
Actually, given the special election results where republicans are getting their clocks cleaned by the progressive blue wave resistance and how can that possibly be a surprise to any sane individual, it looks like America is fed up with what must be the most corrupt, chaotic and insane white house ever:
BTW Wesman, Brett whats his names accuser has taken a polygraph and passed, which of course indicates she's telling the truth: What about 'beattie eyes' Brett? Will he take a polygraph to prove his innocence? That will probably happen about the same time Bozo Trump gives a full and total refund for all those 'Trump University Diplomas' he peddled years ago:
Breaking BIG BIG ******* : "Jeff Flake Suggests Delaying Kavanaugh Vote Amid Sexual Assault Allegations"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gr … 313fbc37e3
...and there is a 98% chance of a Clinton Presidency.I'm not really sure how this nonsense relates to the subject of 'beattie eyes' Brett, but Senator Flake is calling for a halt to any voting on this awkward man until further investigation and perhaps questioning under oath can be performed:
Brett Kavanaugh has been accused of violently raping a woman who was in fear for her life as it occurred, not that I'd expect Bozo Trump or any of his last remaining fans to actually care, but it's an abominable crime she is accusing him of and she has positive polygraph results to corroborate her nightmare while 'beattie eyes' Brett has nothing but what appears to be an unattractive, perpetual constipated grin:
BTW, Progressive Dems have the overwhelming advantage in the midterms: Dems 52% Gop 38% and perhaps one reason why republicans are sinking so fast is because their slogan is the following: "We as republicans in congress haven't succeeded yet, but we are still trying like hell to take away your health insurance":
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Leftist outright lies cannot keep the SCOTUS from being completed by Kavanaugh's selection , no matter how outrageous they are in the media or here by such a "Hail Mary pass ". If women want to be taken seriously about # metoo , you'd better take sex out of politics .
Feinstein should be censured or impeached.The entire world is supposed to just up and stop because some woman, likely being paid to do so, suddenly and at the last minute says she was sexually assaulted and scared for her life 30 years ago.
As if we've never seen this exact left wing game time and time and time again. There should be a #metoo movement for men slandered by paid off women and their fake sex assault allegations.Getting terminal for 'beattie eyes' Brett: BOMBSHELL:
"Lawyer: Kavanaugh accuser willing to testify publicly"
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics … index.html
But don't worry too much, repugnant republican senators like Lindsey Graham are calling for a delayed vote so the alleged rape victim can be heard, they never said they wouldn't vote for 'beattie eyed' Brett because after all, many of them endorsed an alleged pedophile for senate in the recent past and continue to be complicit with the most evil dark force ever to occupy our oval office so what's another dreg of society serving on the SC to them? :
Just one of many reasons why the republican party is shrinking fast:
A man of his questionable character and unthinkable allegations of at least one incident of a serious violent crime, should actually be standing trial not making decisions on what happens to all Americans: He should stay at least 100 miles from our supreme court:
Americans are outraged with this typical trashy and possible felonious Trump nominee where a polygraph indicates a truthful allegation by the alleged victim: The only way to find out how truthful 'beattie eyes' Brett is, would be for him to voluntarily take a polygraph test as well, but we all know that will never happen in a million years, especially after the alleged victim has already passed hers:
If Brett does go bye bye swiftly into obscurity where he belongs, at least OJ and Roy Moore are still available to republicans to serve on Bozo Trump's supreme court of sick clowns:
Not only should Brett be disqualified from the nomination which is typically reserved for non-violent crime offenders, and those who have not been accused of such, but if the statute of limitations has not passed, we must assume there is enough evidence already to arrest and force him to stand trial:
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Wesman , Feinstein just dropped a "hail mary pass" . I am forever baffled by the people that elect such as her to office . She has never told the truth about anything political .
Yet , she is the goddess of the left ? One of the most shocking and outrageous allegations by the woman who according to press reports, passed a polygraph test and is willing to submit said results to the public, is the way she says 'beattie eyes' Brett psychically assaulted her by holding his grubby little hand over her mouth apparently to muffle her cries for help: DESPICABLE:
Lock Him Up !!!! ??
Will Brett take a polygraph test to try and prove his innocence and will complicit republicans compel him to do so before a ghoulish monster ends up on our supreme court perhaps for decades, without recourse for removal ???
"These seven Republican and Democratic senators could sink Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation"
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/17/these-s … ation.htmlOh My GOD Have Mercy: I was just watching a legal expert on MSNBC and he said, right now, there is no statute of limitations on rape in the state and or jurisdiction where this alleged violent crime occurred:
So, if during the time when this alleged crime occurred the statute was the same as today, what would happen if the alleged victim made the agonizing decision to press charges against 'beattie eyes' Brett ??
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Jake , you mean 35 years of waiting for just the right democratic party moment?
What you don't seem to understand is when there is no limit on the statute of limitations an alleged victim can press charges against her alleged perpetrator 75 years later without delay, there's good reason for unlimited time to file a criminal action:
The people are OUTRAGED: This is the ridiculously insane world we are now relegated to endure until his removal from our premises: We have a corrupt, Russian sympathizer polluting our white house who has been accused by several women of sexual assault and defamation who will soon be forced to testify under oath in the Summer Zervos case, nominating a crazy right wing lunatic judge who he himself is now accused of not only sexual assault, but a violent rape and according to reports, she passed a polygraph test to corroborate her claims:
Where's Brett's polygraph ??
UNREAL: This guy should be arrested immediately if the statute of limitations has not been exhausted:
UNREAL:
"Trump to provide written answers under oath in Summer Zervos defamation lawsuit"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … 581d11aba0Will 'beattie eyes' Brett bring his polygraph results to the senate hearing pertaining to the criminal allegations against him in an effort to prove his innocence just like the alleged victim will submit her polygraph which according to press reports, she passed?
I seriously doubt Brett is willing to take a lie detector test under these circumstances, especially while he's currently a sitting judge and how that mistake happened without a full vetting is anyone's guess: And why the rush into a hearing anyway without a complete and thorough investigation of these horrendous criminal allegations?
OUTRAGEOUS: This is INSANE: Can't republicans find a nominee who is NOT accused of attempted rape ??? What if 'beattie eyes' Brett Kavanaugh was miraculously confirmed by an amoral, Russian complicit republican senate, then shortly thereafter, criminal charges were filed against him for alleged violent sexual assault?
Essential reading: From "Law & Crime"
"Depending on the true nature of the allegation, not only could his confirmation be in jeopardy, he could also face criminal liability."
"The New York Times and Newsweek reported that Kavanaugh was accused of “sexual misconduct” while attending the Georgetown Preparatory School in Bethesda, Maryland. The Intercept broke this story and reported that the woman in question retained the legal counsel of Debra Katz, an attorney who has previously represented high-profile women as part of the #MeToo movement.
Brett Kavanaugh graduated from Georgetown Preparatory School in 1983. That’s a relatively long time ago. So, could there still be criminal liability in store for President Donald Trump‘s second high court nominee?
If the allegations against him are true, that’s absolutely possible. In fact, a criminal investigation might even be considered plausible at this point under certain circumstances. That’s because the State of Maryland has no statute of limitations for felony sexual assault charges."
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/if … ges-maybe/This whole dangerous fiasco is just insane: We have a beattie eyed older man named Brett who is actually accused of cuffing his hand over a woman's mouth to muffle her speech so she was unable to scream for help while he tried to or even perhaps succeeded in raping her and this mutt is STILL being considered for our supreme court !!!!: Do I really need to repeat that ???? What the hell is going on in this crumbling country ??: Nothing less than Stunningly OUTRAGEOUS and criminal:
To what degree has this once great nation been degraded by complicit evil fake christian republicans and an elderly orange man in the oval office who believe it or not, has several pending law suits against him including for felony crimes against our constitution ???? A chaotic man who seems to think he reports to Vladimir Putin of Russia, not we the people: UNREAL:
How should the FBI investigation of the alleged violent crimes Brett has been accused of begin? Considering press reports indicate the alleged victim was given and successfully passed a polygraph lie detector test which means she has the facts, credibility and preponderance of the evidence on her side, the only way to challenge these damning results would be to begin with a polygraph lie detector of Brett:
Once complete, if we must be forced by retarded republicans into enduring the new insanity of actually continuing to consider an alleged violent criminal for our supreme court, which is absurdly obscene in and of itself, let the regular structure of the investigation proceed:
OUTRAGEOUS: At this point, if a full and complete investigation is not conducted by the FBI before any hearing takes place which is normal procedure in this kind of stunning case of alleged violent attempted rape where she said he forcefully cupped his hand over her mouth to impede her ability to scream for help, the only other way to uncover the underlying truth is for the alleged victim to file criminal charges against this beattie eyed creep who is actually STILL a judge: UNREAL: Then. at least we'll find out if there are any more alleged victims:
Will all the evidence be concealed or will a necessary investigation take place ?? Who knows at this point considering we have what appears to bea complicit Russian controlled republican congress:
"What happens at Georgetown Prep, stays at Georgetown Prep," Kavanaugh joked during a speech at the Catholic University's Columbus School of Law in Washington."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol … 355117002/"Will all the evidence be concealed " No evidence but her word. The other person that he has named as witness claims he never witnessed such a crime. Was never at said party, and never witnessed Kavanaugh doing anything as this woman claims. Once again the dems get down in the dirt and try to stop the will of the people. Not sure when they will realize they are irrelevant, and their old ways of dirty politicking are no longer going to be put up with. They continue to make fools of themselves at every turn. A very pitiful bunch.
Where do you get your info Sharlee01?? Fox Loser Network ?? Here's the facts, right now the preponderance of evidence is in the alleged victims favor for the following reasons:
The alleged victim has her word, notes from psychiatric sessions when she revealed the horrifying incident for the very first time, friends to support her character and guess what? She also has polygraph test results which are positive to corroborate her claims this horrendous criminal incident took place:
And by the way, for making her claims public, the victim according to press releases, has been rewarded with verbal assaults by crazy right wing nut job lunatics who desperately need a creepy looking fake christian on the supreme court:
Where's beattie eyes Brett's polygraph ?? You'll see this eerie looking fellow take a lie detector test about the same time Bozo Trump goes an hour without lying to the American people which means don't hold your breath:Your so silly Jake... "The alleged victim has her word, notes from psychiatric sessions when she revealed the horrifying incident for the very first time, friends to support her character and guess what? She also has polygraph test results which are positive to corroborate her claims this horrendous criminal incident took place:"
To address the notes, no one has seen them, we have no idea if she named any names? So may not be relevant.
Her friend coming forward to support her as well as give an opinion on her character. Kavanaugh has an exemplary reputation in his job, as well as his community. President Bush just this morning has given his full support to him, along with many others.
The said polygraph has not been produced or has the person name that did it. Only a media report that one was done by an x-FBI employee. No evidence here Jake... It is very apparent this woman made all of this up. She won't even meet with Congress to disgust her claim. Maybe just another case of a dem sacrificing herself for love of the party. LOL Kavanaugh is ready to defend his good name. She has not produced any evidence...zero
Once again you find it necessary to insult the appearance of a male? You really might want to address that with a psychiatrist. And maybe have a look see in a mirror.Sorry Sharlee01, but your denial of reality isn't even worth a response: I'd say try again when you decide to accept the truth and discuss the hardcore facts:
"denial of reality". That is rich coming from you. Hopefully, the vote goes as planned for tomorrow, and we have another wonderful conservative judge on the Supreme Court.
Well Sharlee01, I always base my comments on facts and the truth and everyone around here knows it, unlike the last few remaining republicans who still seem to believe Bozo trump is not the greatest liar in human political history: perhaps they have an incurable case of "TWD", who knows at this point:
But I've found long ago that it's useless to try and have a discussion with anyone who refuses to accept facts, especially with republicans who are all caught up in the most untruthful white house betrayer ever:
When you're interested in discussing facts, like the solid corroborating evidence against Brett Kavanaugh who should probably be charged with felony crimes, not being considered for a supreme court nomination, I'm all ears:
"Brett Kavanaugh’s Accuser Offers Corroborating Data Including A Lie Detector Test"
https://hillreporter.com/brett-kavanaug … ector-7306Jake, you have a history of posting information from media reports. Which there is nothing wrong with. But most of what has been reported on this woman has in no way been verified. It's her accusation and account. Brett Kavanaugh has referred to her story as being untrue. I would say there is no evidence as of yet that can be proved. I except facts that hold true, not innuendo. In regards to who should be charged with a civil crime it so far is her. She slandered Brett Kavanaugh. without any form of proof. Not sure how Trump came into our conversation. Seems you are obsessed with the man? The Dems have always used dishonest tactics, and their day in the sun has long passed. Their kind of politics is just not excepted by anyone with even a bit of intelligence. That's one reason Trump won. We may be a silent bunch, but we speak with our votes.
Yes, I'm not one of the last remaining gullible Trump worshipers who have obviously been hoodwinked like little lambs into believing the media is evil, just like Adolf Hitler tried to do decades ago in Nazi Germany with his sheep until fate stepped in, so yes, I post fact based media reports from the very best sources such as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, BBC, CSPAN, Wall Street Journal etc etc not right wing nut case propaganda outlets like fox loser network because despite what the king of delusion Bozo Trump in the white house claims, I understand the fact that the mainstream media provides the very best info available period and Bozo is possibly the biggest liar in political history period:
There is absolutely no debate about that and this creepy dude Kavanaugh should be in a holding cell awaiting a criminal trial with the corroborating evidence available, not on the republican's list of supreme court candidates: Why didn't republicans just nominate alleged child molester Roy Moore and get it over with, God knows Bozo Trump was salivating to get his disgraceful ugly face in the U.S Senate but who knows, if God steps in and halts this abominable Kavanaugh scandal, perhaps Roy will get another shot at it:" BBC, CSPAN, Wall Street Journal " good resources. CNN Msnbc, not so much lol. A holding cell? This woman won't even step up and back her story. This is the kind of woman that no self-respecting woman would have anything to do with. She sounds a bit nutty?
Gotta love that "corroborating evidence"!
She says Kavanaugh tried to rape her.
She says there was a polygraph test, but without producing the test, the tester, the questions or what it was for (drug usage?)
She says another person was there, but he says he saw nothing.
She says she discussed it with her husband.
She says it was in 1982
So she says, she says, she says and she says...and you call it "corroborating" evidence!
Well I think the CIA should investigate just what he wrote on that 5th grade essay, and just what books he was being read when in the 2nd grade.
And that's not even mentioning being naked in a public hospital the day he was born!I'm not even sure what you mean wilderness so, no comment:
I'll just take the time to post this instead: Not really more corroborating evidence to prove a serious violent crime was indeed committed, but what an eerie chilling to the bone remark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0DGFK_SewgI mean that if you search hard enough you WILL find "evidence" of wrongdoing by every Republican in the country. At least as long as you scream loudly enough how horrible it was, that it is entirely true without being able to prove it, and if you don't care how many lives are ruined as a result of your rants.
lol: We have another fact denial: FYI wilderness, there's actually enough evidence right now to bring criminal charges against 'beattie eyes' Brett for the alleged attempted rape and in a normal, non-chaotic or mega-corrupt functioning democracy, that would be a disqualifier for the supreme court in and of itself:
I haven't researched it yet but press reports indicate that there is no statute of limitations on rape in the state where this horrendous, alleged violent crime occurred, wouldn't it be lovely if the alleged victim filed criminal charges ?? Then what ?? Would it be time for Bozo trump to give that second chance to Alleged child molester Roy Moore ???? God knows he wanted him on the U.S. Senate:
Well, you're right about one thing anyway: you haven't researched anything at all. Especially what is needed to bring criminal charges, for it certainly isn't an unsupported claim from 30 years ago.
Far more likely, and there is evidence to support it, would be a claim of slander.If her allegations prove fabricated I hope she serves jail time. It's hoaxes such as this may be which make it difficult for women honestly abused to see justice.
Ridiculous to even think a credible professor who is now forced to leave her home to protect her family because crazy right wing nut cases are threatening her life would be considered slander:
That's what you always say when you lose the argument and or when the evidence against your case continues to mount: Where's Brett's polygraph and will he take one before republicans ram him through? Yeah right, the odds of that happening are about the same as if Bozo goes a day without dishonesty:
OMG
Wochit News! How funny Jake. Do a bit of research on
Wochit News. No wonder you are posting such comments...
Wochit News.... LOL
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
The DOJ says , "We have concluded investigations of Kavanaugh and have no further interest ", according to your reliable news media the accuser says something between " I never said any of that "..... or alleged third party's present THEN say , "I saw nothing ", who DO we believe today Mr. Earthshine ?
Nonsense as usual ahorseback or Ed or whomever:
Brett might gain some credibility if he takes and passes a lie detector test as his accuser has already done which gives her a very big edge in the credibility department: But I think we all know Brett will NEVER agree to take a polygraph test and to my knowledge, he has yet to volunteer to do so but apparently, he has agreed to sit in front of a republican kangaroo congress who appear to have already put the 'fix' in, and pretend to answer their questions:Yes, Isn't that great , He will be confirmed .
She might gain a bit of credibility if she produced a name of the person that she claims did the test. Maybe have him come forward with some results. Guest those would be questions that would come up if she showed up Monday. This woman is losing all credibility by not backing up her claims.
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
One simple fact alone tells me this is entirely political , ............ 35 years ?
Considering the rapidly shrinking Russian manipulated neo-republican party could care less if they confirm an alleged rapist, or alleged child molester or even an alleged murderer, and they've been prepared to ram through a crazy radical republican judge regardless of the allegations because the 'fix' is in, here's what I'd say in response Chuck Grassley's ridiculous arbitrary deadline for the alleged victim to testify:
My response if I were her attorney? There will be an investigation prior to my clients congressional testimony one way or another, if congress will not authorize said investigation, I will be in the court of jurisdiction tomorrow to file criminal charges against the alleged perpetrator which will immediately trigger an investigation despite your refusal to find the facts:The 'fix' is in, I'm sure he will be confirmed unless a criminal action is filed against him, then he won't be confirmed but he will be in deep:
When's the last time your thirty five year old criminal allegation got you a grand jury sitting ?
Think statute of limitation...
What is a statute of limitation?
The term “statute of limitations” means that there is a specific time frame to charge someone with a crime.
You know, like Bill Clinton can no longer be charged for raping and beating Juanita Broaddrick. Now, Keith Ellison, that's a different story. He should be sitting in a cell. What do you think about Keith? Could you provide a colorful physical description of him? I love your personal insults on peoples physical appearances. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … al-docume/Where do you get your info Sharlee01? The fact is, according to press reports, there is no statute of limitations in the state where the alleged attempted rape occurred so if she chooses to do so, the alleged victim apparently still has the legal right to file criminal charges against Brett and now that her life has essentially been destroyed by right wing lunatic nut jobs, why not file criminal charges against him to ensure an proper and necessary investigation is conducted?:
"Brett Kavanaugh Could Still Face Charges For Attempted Rape In Maryland"
"Maryland has no statute of limitations for attempted rape, and the Attorney General is being encouraged by members of the public to investigate."
https://hillreporter.com/brett-kavanaug … yland-7580No Jake once again you are wrong. I have added a good resource for you to see actual Maryland SOL laws that cover rape. Which has not been the accusation this woman is making. Not sure why you just believe if you say it it makes it true? Do some research, Jake.
https://www.marylandaccidentattorneyblo … ual-abuse/
COULD KAVANAUGH FACE STATE CHARGES?
"The allegations Ford detailed to The Washington Post appear to be misdemeanors that would be beyond the statute of limitations under Maryland law, said Randolph Rice, a Baltimore-based attorney who specializes in sex crimes.
The allegations could be interpreted as second-degree assault and a fourth-degree sex offense, Rice said. But both charges are misdemeanors and would be far beyond the statute of limitations, which is typically one or three years, depending on the offense.
https://www.apnews.com/61a3e6e55ca044688e7d93a89eb26a23lol: Well sharlee01, I'll take the reporting of 'The Hill Reporter' over some accident attorney's blog any day: Your rabid attempted defense of an alleged attempted rapist and dismissive attitude toward the alleged victim even though she has corroborating evidence is still nothing less than shocking to us normal human beings:
Here's another source for you: No statute of limitations for sexual abuse/ assault:
Criminal Cases for Sexual Abuse:
Criminal cases are filed by the State of Maryland on behalf of a victim. In order to file criminal charges, you must notify law enforcement of the sexual abuse. The authorities will investigate your claims and a prosecutor may file charges against your abuser. If a suspect is found guilty of criminal conduct, he or she may be sentenced to significant jail time and sex offender registration.
In Maryland, the criminal statute of limitations varies depending on the severity of the offense. The criminal statutes of limitations include:
Felony sexual offenses: no statute of limitations, and
Misdemeanor offenses: one year from the event.
If you need help determining the correct statute of limitations in your case, contact law enforcement immediately.
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/ … abuse.htmlHere's another source Sharlee01: There is NO statute of limitations for Rape and or Attempted Rape in the state of Maryland: Assuming there are no changes to the laws: According to this site. there are no statute of limitations for felony crimes:
Attempted rape, first degree
Question:What is the statute of limitations for this crime?
Answer: There is no time limit to commence prosecution for any felonies, such as this crime.
Statutory citation(s): 1. Citation for the crime: Md. Code, Crim. Law § 3-309.
Citation for the statute of limitations: Massey v. State, 320 Md. 605, 610, 579 A.2d 265, 267 (Md.
1990); State v. Renfro, 223 Md. App. 779 (2015), cert. denied, 445 Md. 6, 122 A.3d 976 (2015)
(“Maryland has no statute of limitations on felonies.”).IT's all in the timing.
Thank you for posting the new changes in the SOL laws as of 2017... All you have posted is correct as of today and came into law in 2017. Prior to 2017 Maryland had a relatively normal SOL. Yes, there is no SOL now, but before 2017 sadly to inform you there was. This new SOL law just does not apply in her case.
Actually, she fell under being a minor when she said the attack occurred. And plus the law was changed in 2017, she could have made a report prior to Marylands law change. Maryland did have a pretty normal SOL before 2017, then they changed it to remove SOL on most sex charges. But the new laws just don't apply to people that let the SOL laps before 2017. Ford let the SOL laps many many moons ago Jake...
"The Law Does Not Help Victims Whose SOL Expired Before October 1, 2017
Another issue with the law is whether it is retroactive to victims whose suits were previously blocked by the old statute of limitations. The answer is “yes” and “no.” According to the wording of the provision, the law does not apply to any victim whose claim would have been barred (past the statute of limitations) prior to the effective date of October 1, 2017. In other words, the law says that it does not apply to any victim who turned 25 prior to October 1, 2017. But, Maryland’s highest court has held that the law extends the statute of limitations for anyone whose claim had not expired on the effective date. So, a victim who turns 25 on October 2, 2017 or anytime thereafter will have until he or she is 38 to bring suit."
https://www.marylandaccidentattorneyblo … ual-abuse/In other, simpler terms, Kavanaugh cannot be tried, let alone "found guilty by a jury of his peers" and is thus to be considered innocent? It is only the "Jury of the Mob" and the political shenanigans of Congressmen and women that can find so-called guilt in this case? Neither of which requires proof or even evidence; just political power and hatred?
Did I get that right?I'm not even sure what you two are talking about, but if I were the accusers' attorney, I'd absolutely file a criminal action against the alleged perpetrator for attempted rape and or additional charges if the republican sham judiciary committee continued to obstruct the truth:
There would be an investigation one way or another and the alleged victim currently has the preponderance of the evidence on her side in every way possible: If Russian republicans in congress who unlawfully and corruptly held a supreme court position open for over a year when President Obama was in office insisted upon CONCEALING 'Beattie Eyes' Brett's past from the public, I'd make sure the lid was blown off of their little corrupt scheme in short order:I'm sure you would; the likelihood of being (successfully) sued for slander would not cross your mind.
Personally, I wouldn't mention it, except to police, until I could prove what I said was true, but again that doesn't seem to bother you.One would first need the ability to figure out what is or isn't true. It's clear some simply do not have that ability. Also, they think they are being persecuted when contradicted.
Just to clarify:
Housebill 642 is for "the purpose of altering the statute of limitations in certain civil actions relating to child sexual abuse"(1)(my emphasis)
This means the bill is irrelevant to the allegations made against Kavanaugh for two reasons:
1. The offense of child sexual abuse would not be applicable as both parties were minors at the time of the alleged offense. Maryland statute § 5-701 defines sexual abuse as being sexual molestation etc. of a child by "a parent or other person who has permanent or temporary care or custody or responsibility for supervision of a child, or by any household or family member"(2). The alleged incident does not meet that definition.
2. The bill relates to "civil" actions (someone's right to sue) not criminal prosecutions.
Based on accounts of the alleged incident currently in the public domain, the applicable offense would be attempted rape.
According to the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN) there is currently no statute of limitations for criminal prosecutions of attempted rape in Maryland(3).
Also (as a point of clarification) there is no statute of limitations for criminal prosecution of child sexual abuse in the state of Maryland either.
Therefore, as far as I can tell, Kavanaugh remains in legal jeopardy in relation to a criminal prosecution for attempted rape.
(1) http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2017RS/chapt … b0642T.pdf
(2) https://codes.findlaw.com/md/family-law … 5-701.html
(3) https://apps.rainn.org/policy/policy-cr … mp;group=7
Rape? No evidence these two were ever in the same room... The Dems have tried this one before. And their pitiful circle makes its way back to sexual abuse... It's laughable. Hey, Jake how long until the Dems move back to Russia? This topic is better tasting feed is it not?
Here's one disgusting, creepy, boring old man who is all in for Brett Kavanot, but that's no surprise:
Sorry Sharlee01, but I no longer respond to inaccurate and or false claims such as your last comment:
FYI: The alleged victim was tested by and passed a polygraph which means the preponderance of evidence and credibility is absolutely on her side, we are also hearing press reports of potential witnesses who might have been aware of the alleged crime:
Still waiting for 'beattie eyes' Brett to volunteer himself to take a polygraph which we all know will happen about the same time Bozo Trump goes a single day without dishonesty or lying to his little sheep, or not painting his face orange, or when he voluntarily discloses his tax returns that he claims have been under audit for years now to we the people:We should never believe a woman when she yells "rape" because it's so often made up.
I am pretty offended by Sharlee's comments. However, if I apply a quick sanity check to myself, I recall that when many different women made accusations against Bill Clinton, we all pretty much lined up and said almost exactly what all the conservatives are saying now.
And inevitably, sometime in the future, some other Democrat will be accused of this same thing and the positions will reverse themselves once again.
Proof that we're all just playing politics with these things. Please, somebody step up and show that they have been consistent on this issue no matter the political affiliation of the accused.Well, sometimes it is made up. As a rule, the person has some sort of evidence of the attack. As did the women that accused Clinton and Ellison. Yes, when Bill Clinton was accused many were shocked at how the women were treated. They all had credible evidence of their claims. This woman has offered nothing. If she had I am sure I for one would be singing a different tune. The charges that Clinton was charged with were much more serious, actual rape and biting a woman, exposing himself, forcibly groping and kissing women. Sexual abuse should never be dismissed, but it must also be proven. When someone yells rape she must be heard. Hopefully, Ford will come forward and tell her story and offer her evidence. If she won't, I have to admit I will remain suspicious of her motive being political.
Can Bill Clinton be charged for raping and beating Juanita Broaddrick? I mean lots of evidence to be had in that case.
Someone can allege you are rapist or child molester. If something like that were to happen, you may finally wake from your hyperbolic retreat, and figure out the value of allegations.
Still got the libstream mass media generated Russian fantasy going. Well, some people never learn that tv 'news' is merely entertainment.
You aren't an attorney. You aren't anyone's attorney. You don't know what an attorney would do or say.
'Refusal to find facts' - you mean refusal to consider hyperbolic allegations to your personal preferences, don't you?That's exactly why we have courts of law in this country, to adjudicate serious allegations such as this so don't be surprised if the alleged victim files a criminal action in the court of jurisdiction: She has nothing to lose now, according to press reports, her life has been ruined already by crazy lunatic right wing nut cases threatening her and her family, so at this point, why not just take it to an outside investigation then to a jury?
The alleged victim is requesting an FBI investigation, Brett must be scared to death of that and the alleged victim has already passed a polygraph test, given his weak character it's a process we'd assume Brett will never agree to: He's a Bozo Trump nominee remember, what does that tell you?Jake she leaked the story to the Washington Post.
Who cares? If not for leaks from Patriotic Americans desperately trying to save us from the evil orange brainless mental case roaming aimlessly around in our oval office, the public would be unaware of the psychotic chaos and extreme dangers happening in our white house:
I appreciate having a president that is getting all he campaigned on doing, and much more... He is outing the crooked brunch that perpetrated the FISA warrant grift. Love this president... He represents transparency. Something that would only confuse you. So relax and enjoy.
Making the rich richer, the poor poorer and betraying the USA are Bozo Trump's only accomplishments to date and the world will celebrate when the elderly orange traitor is sucking iron bars as penalty for his insanity and kissing the boots of our enemies:
Where's Mr. Transparencies tax returns he promised to reveal? Another ruse: How many years has he been under audit now, must be a record, and why is he under audit to begin with? Too many suspicious Russian transactions perhaps, who really knows at this point what's hidden in the forms?
So the last few remaining Trump fans seem to be at the point where they don't even think about what they're desperately trying to defend him from anymore, it's just an automatic impulse now despite the despicable nature of the incident or atrocity: He endorses an alleged child molester for senate and tries to take everything they own away from them including their healthcare, and they defend him, that my friends is a nothing less than a cult:
But don't worry about your alleged attempted rapist Mr. Kavanot being confirmed because yesterday scarecrow Mitch McConnell already informed what's left of the radical nut case conservative republican base that the 'fix' is already in, long before the alleged victim even utters word one: I knew it and anyone who follows the corrupt, complicit Russian republican party knew it:
Mitch essentially said Brett would soon be on the court and he said it yesterday so obviously we must assume he already has yes vote commitments in his back pocket from republicans Flake, Collins, Corker and Murkowski, all of whom typically express fake outrage and concern but usually end up voting AGAINST their constituents best interest and unfortunately for the people, this case will probably be no different:
Now that's an interesting point. Why didn't she go to the police? I hear there is no statute of limitations on rape in her state, so why not police?
Could it be because it isn't true or, if true, cannot be proven? Or is it just another portion of the political game, where truth and honesty are hindrance rather than requirement?I have done some research on SOL. In 2017 Maryland did change the SOL on sexual crimes. However, it does not appear to allow Ford to charge
"The Law Does Not Help Victims Whose SOL Expired Before October 1, 2017
Another issue with the law is whether it is retroactive to victims whose suits were previously blocked by the old statute of limitations. The answer is “yes” and “no.” According to the wording of the provision, the law does not apply to any victim whose claim would have been barred (past the statute of limitations) prior to the effective date of October 1, 2017. In other words, the law says that it does not apply to any victim who turned 25 prior to October 1, 2017. But, Maryland’s highest court has held that the law extends the statute of limitations for anyone whose claim had not expired on the effective date. So, a victim who turns 25 on October 2, 2017 or anytime thereafter will have until he or she is 38 to bring suit."
https://www.marylandaccidentattorneyblo … ual-abuse/
You're really not knowledgeable at all about this. How many FBI investigations do you think someone like Brett K. has already been through in order to attain the position he already has?
I heard the number was 6.
You should really do heavier reading than Buzzfeed.Her life has been ruined? No one has even got a photo of this woman. Are you kidding? I m not sure this person even exists? Like I said there has been no one step up from here work, neighborhood, from her past. No one almost like she does not exist. The media are vultures, and yet nothing... Very odd.
I noted you did not address my concerns in regards to Bill Clinton and Keith Ellison? What are your feelings on those two deviants? Oh and add your thoughts on their appearances, I always enjoy your take on one's physical appearance.
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Russia Collusion didn't work , the P..tapes didn't work , the whole Trump family in the white house didn't work ,Trump's Putin love didn't work , Trump-Un love didn't work , Trump Tower rental didn't work , Orange hair didn't work , Stormy Daniels didn't work , Golfing days didn't work , Low I.Q Maxine didn't work , Impeach didn't work , ................... Oh you poor obstructionist's .......Now comes Kavanaugh's nomination and what do democrats throw in ? One more thing that ain't' gonna work ..........
Well said... I am sure they are already digging around for their next grift. What a disgusting bunch. Sorry, but just over even trying to be respectful. I am so sick of watching this.
More lunatic right wing breitbart Alex Jones style untrue talking points: Almost everything in ahorseback or Ed's comment is false and by the way, Michael Avenatti skewered Bozo trump in that NDA law suit which as we speak, Bozo is desperately trying to get out of but Michael won't let him until certain conditions are agreed upon: Trump is toast in this law suit and Avenatti might still get a chance to depose him which will mean big trouble for mindless orange man:
And by the way, Stormy Daniels took and passed a lie detector test and it turns out she's victorious in that law suit: So much for Michael Cohen and Bozo Trump's scheme of trying to unlawfully SQUEEZE millions out of her for simply talking about her horrific experience with 'spanky': This is why lie detector tests bolster the credibility of those who are willing to take one:
Where's Brett's lie detector results ???? Yeah, he'll probably take the test about the same time Bozo Trump releases his tax returns he promised: Bozo must be under the longest IRS audit in history, how many years has it been now?
If Russian republican conress-persons refuse to conduct an investigation to find the truth, I would strongly urge the alleged victim in the Kavanaugh case to file criminal charges if I were her counsel:The Dems are circling back to sexual abuse. You know the circle that includes Russia, racism, obstruction, collusion, then comes sexual abuse... IT's an endless circle, and many are pulled into it due to having a weak thought process. Around and around they go...
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Jake , I have an Idea , Let's let Comey , Strzok and Paige investigate Kavanaugh , They don't have much of anything to do , don't you just hate it that all that dormant talent is wasted !
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Kavanaugh will be confirmed , unless he tires of Democratic Nazism and The American Pravda press..
Polygraph tests are nothing but woo woo. There is exactly nothing in the way of evidence that a polygraph's test results amount to any sort of anything other than mumbo jumbo or mega woo effing woo.
http://www.apa.org/research/action/polygraph.aspx- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Kavanaugh's accuser is demanding that she testify LAST after Kavanaugh , this is entirely political , NOW The letter has disappeared from Feinstein's possession , afraid of who's fingerprints are on it Diane ?
A Joke ! - Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Hogwash , Democrats are afraid of a trial in this phony allegation , Why do you think it became a trial by media FIRST ? Because they don't need a real investigation to stir up the shyte pot . Feinstein knows this , the "victim " knows this , there is no conceivable string of evidence , there are no witness' , there is no "rape kit " evidence , there is no confession and will be none . There was NO timely allegation at the time ,Bring on a FBI investigation and watch the democratic senate role players crawl under the rocks !
And the activist followers here go strangely silent .Talk about slander: Unlike Brett who has not taken a polygraph test, the alleged victim has documented evidence to corroborate her claims of a horrendous crime: Bozo Trump is now being sued by Summer Zervos for the very same type of defamatory lies and comments about her allegations and guess what? A judge has already allowed it to proceed and odds are Bozo is probably in deep legal jeopardy because he has been ordered to answer questions about the case presumably under the penalty of perjury and with his extensively documented severe allergic reactions to the truth, God only knows what he'll say and God only knows what the final result will be:
Just one more of a mountain of scandals that should ultimately force this clown out of our oval office and into a dark protected place: The sooner the better for this once great and powerful nation:
"Trump to provide written answers under oath in Summer Zervos defamation lawsuit"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … 38fc6dd6d3Jake ,Your "Mountain of Scandals " for Demobrats from the very beginning of the traumatizing Hillary loss has provided NOTHING of evidentiary value thus making your "mountains" nothing but a huge "pile of poop ". Congratulations though , you are all speaking in complete unison . It's just that your party's babbling to date suffers from incoherency never before experienced by any adults .
This is just a strategic delay to confuse or influence the mid terms in your party's favor in the slight chance to win the senate and pollute the SCOTUS by socialists even more than it is now .
No comment on your off topic fox loser channel unhealthy 'Hillary Obsession" nonsense, or your 'TWD" 'Trump Worship Disorder' so I'll just leave you with this:
Everyone in the real world knows the law suits and legal actions filed and pending against the orange weirdo blob in our oval office are indeed real, and many his inner circle are headed straight to prison, and that doesn't include the gathering of a mountain of evidence in the criminal investigations which should soon be his doom if we still have laws and thank God for that:
If our legal system and laws allow Bozo Trump to get away with betraying the USA by appearing on national television and asking our arch enemy in front of millions of witnesses to commit espionage and steal secret information electronically or any other way from we the people, I'll be more than SHOCKED at the utter failure of juris-prudence:
If Brett is confirmed as another 'scandal clad' supreme court justice without a proper investigation to uncover the complete truth, a serious unthinkable criminal scandal which heavily leans in the alleged victim's favor due to her corroborating evidence, it will be nothing less than an evil, atrocious subversion of the truth and justice merely for political gain by complicit radical republicans and a few christian false idols:
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Jake , Would you take a polygraph at some 36 year old allegation just to please a Democratic "resister" Professor ? Talk about a third world legal attitude...........
Too bad the Trump fans around here don't seem to watch real news such as MSNBC or they would discover the scenario I had outlined days ago just might come to fruition: Apparently, the dunce in chief finally opened his big uncontrollable disgusting mouth and asked essentially why criminal charges were NOT filed by the alleged victim?:
On MSNBC just a few minutes ago, an expert was pondering WHY Bozo Trump would prod the alleged victim into filing charges NOW: Not hard to believe with an incompetent oval office clown: The commentator went on to assert that there is NO statute of limitations for this type of alleged crime in Montgomery County Maryland which means the opening to file is still an option: Let's see what the alleged victim does:Actually, to be precise Our president questioned why she did not report her crime to the FBI when it happened 36 years ago. Jake, MSNBC just never tell the truth or the context of any statements made by our president. Fake news is dangerous Plus, Trump made a very good point in his tweet.
I have already provided you with the SOL laws in Maryland. To remind you of the law that you are quoting. Yes at this point they have no SOL on Sexual crimes. The law was passed in 2017 and did not apply to anyone before 2017. Please visit the links I post, they will provide u with facts.I know the truth hurts but here it is. But don't worry you will be dished up more fake news as this story fades.
Donald J. Trump
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The radical left lawyers want the FBI to get involved NOW. Why didn’t someone call the FBI 36 years ago?
9:29 AM - Sep 21, 2018
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- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
You mean Msnbc's Rachel Maddow , dunce in chief ?
You know ?Ole Crocodile tears herself ? - Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Sharlee , Let's face it Liberals could care less about" Women's Rights " if they did .....They might have done something , anything , ONE thing about Bill Clinton's record with women ,Hillary's defaming of Bill's bimbos , Ted Kennedy's affairs and actual murder of a woman , JFK's affairs with multiple women , Look at the horrid record of sexual harassment of women all across the democrats political spectrum ................
Oh , but when it comes down to "dirty trick season " mid -terms ,All of a sudden Democrats care about women's rights ...........again .Liberals seem to be very easily told what to care about. This latest fiasco pretty much proves my theory. Dems follow the Clinton playbook. Lie, deceive, and deny. Don't draw the line anywhere, do whatever needs to be done to achieve a goal no matter how disgusting the goal.
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
When a party motivation becomes an eleventh hour accusation , "hail mary pass" after 36 years by a very intelligent democratic professional in liberal academia . Financed now by the defenders of Clinton's during their own accusations ,
It's just politics to stall an impending confirmation . Won't work.Just heard "Grassley panel scraps Kavanaugh hearing, warns committee will vote without deal".
"The committee announced on Friday that the Monday hearing — where both Kavanaugh and his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, had been invited to speak — was being called off.
Instead, Grassley said in a statement Friday that he is giving Ford’s lawyers until 10 p.m. on Friday to respond to the GOP request for her to testify on Wednesday. If they do not, or if Ford declines to testify, Grassley said the Judiciary Committee will vote Monday on Kavanaugh's nomination."... About time he put out an ultimatum. She should except to sit down and tell her story. She has no right to hold up the vote with his kind of antics. This is one of the more shameful stunts the Dems have pulled.
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Wooooooooo? Do do dooo do do , doooo do do do , Now the nonsense turns to "Child sexual abuse "?...........what next ?
Which part of "The alleged incident does not meet that definition" is unclear to you?
Don: Unfortunately for them, everything including the obvious seems to be UNCLEAR to the last remaining shrinking base of Trump fans hence a blind allegiance: I guess they still can't come to grips with a rapidly shrinking and ultra-corrupt republican party which no longer has morals, values or concern for the well being of them and their families or this swiftly collapsing, once great country as if these traits existed prior to the current appalling, hopefully soon to be terminated by our justice system Bozo Trump era::
YES, you are correct Don, and so is the expert I watched on MSNBC a couple days ago and so is the website pertaining to Montgomery County Maryland's laws which Sharlee01, shorseback and wilderness refuse to accept as fact, there is NO time limit nor statute of limitations for the alleged victim of the alleged attempted rape to file criminal charges against the alleged perpetrator Brett:
If the ultra-corrupt republican congress refuses to conduct a necessary investigation, I do hope the alleged victim doe indeed file criminal charges which should automatically trigger said investigation republicans are unwilling to perform purely for evil political purposes:"there is NO time limit nor statute of limitations for the alleged victim of the alleged attempted rape to file criminal charges against the alleged perpetrator Brett"
Unfortunately, (as is common with your "facts") the law was not in place when it needed to be. Others have posted the "rest of the story", which makes your statement false.wilderness, the new bill in Maryland relates to the statute of limitations for civil claims. It does not apply to criminal prosecutions. Also, it applies to child sexual abuse, which is not what Kavanaugh is accused of.
See my previous comment for sources:
https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4031257So one can make just an allegation without any form of evidence and you believe law enforcement should prosecute someone just on an allegation? My this certainly would open up an ugly situation, not to mention many being prosecuted without having committed a crime.
Well, I could be wrong - information comes from this thread and if wrong then so am I.
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
This entire Dr. Ford /Kavanaugh is a joke and the actual joke of it all is against ALL women not just Dr.Ford , Feinstein has had this letter since July of this year . where is Feinstein's timely concern for the women's issue themselves and NOT the timing of it's highly politically motivated release ?
Do you women not feel like puppets ?
Feinstein is pulling the strings of the biggest puppet issue known in politics , when all political debate fails , throw in the sexual abuse clause . Never mind the obvious phoniness of the incident , forget the privacy of the "victims " , ignore the overall timing of the accusation itself , stomp on the integrity and honor of one more man for the good of the liberal party .
And now women want their issues to be taken seriously , why ? - Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
When Trump is done with his war on political correctness and it's infection riddled effect on the populace I hope he will begin a campaign against the mass of alt realities in the ideologies .
You mean when Bozo Trump is done destroying the USA, destroying our healthcare, destroying the christian church, destroying our economy, destroying our farmers, destroying our once solid ties to our once great allies, destroying our infrastructure, destroying our senior citizens, and then laying the foundation for a complete Russian takeover?
But don't worry none ahorseback, the 'fix' is already in for your alleged attempted rapist to take his soiled seat with Clarence Thomas et al justices, scarecrow Mitch McConnell has already made it public, prior to the alleged victim's utterance of word one, that Brett is in:
Just like Bozo trump, republicans don't even bother to hide their unlawful corruption anymore, but that doesn't mean a severe price won't be paid:"You mean when Bozo Trump is done destroying the USA, destroying our healthcare, destroying the christian church, destroying our economy, destroying our farmers, destroying our once solid ties to our once great allies, destroying our infrastructure, destroying our senior citizens, and then laying the foundation for a complete Russian takeover?"
You live in a world of fantasy. Are there unicorns where you live? How about elves and hobbits?
No, just 72 year old obese orange blobs:Please, Jake, locate a mirror and have a good long look...
How tall are you, and what do you weigh? Going from your picture, your BMI isn't less than Trump's would be. Do you hate yourself?
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Jake seriously , at least state a fact in your rambles . Every conceivable accusation you make against Trump is a direct reflection of the inherent corruptions of your Democratic party , the DNC itself , the socialist inspired candidates , the party's election process, it's primaries , EVERY corruption from the selling of the DNC itself to its "superdelegates " stealing of entire campaigns , [Sanders ] for one , leaking classified material constantly to your incessuous news media SPELLS CORRUPTION in capitals every single chance they get .
But you are loyal -I'll say that . - Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Of course everyone here knows that if Ford took this to the proper * authorities and the authorities took it to the appropriate prosecutors , they would laugh at the authorities attempting to bring any charges , right ?
*local policeSo do you now accept that in theory Kavanaugh could be prosecuted for attempted rape?
Just checking, as your position seems somewhat . . . fluid.No, I actually don't ! 36 year old accusation from a liberal professor linked now to Clinton defenders and activists ; Its entirely political and pretty apt to remain political .
Honestly, how does the fact that she's a liberal professor influence your view on whether Kavanaugh, in theory, could be prosecuted for attempted rape? She's a Clinton activist and defender - so what?
As I've said , this is entirely political , there isn't an ounce of justice seeking implied in this and I'll keep saying this ; 36 years and now it's an issue ?
More #Metoo B.S.
It's Political , period .So what? How would you like it if someone came forward and accused you of sexual abuse without any form of proof? There are two to consider in this mess. This man has led an exemplary life, without any form of scandal. This could ruin his life. All for a dirty political ploy. When our society deems someone guilty without proof, we are in trouble.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
Do you accept there is no existing statute of limitations barring Kavanaugh from being prosecuted?IF there was a" crime ", it was a crime committed by and against a minor , where is the national or federal jurisdiction in that ? Your kid today would get off without even a slap of the wrist and where else is there a 36 year old crime being investigated today.
No, he could not be prosecuted. The SOL law was changed in 2017 to have no limitations. Those that abuse occurred before 2017 the law does not apply. Ford's claim would not be considered due to Maryland laws. I have added the link below that explains the new law as well as old SOL laws. The media has misrepresented the SOL law.or one could say have used it out of context. This should help stop the rumor that Kavanaugh can still be arrested and prosecuted.
"The Law Does Not Help Victims Whose SOL Expired Before October 1, 2017
Another issue with the law is whether it is retroactive to victims whose suits were previously blocked by the old statute of limitations. The answer is “yes” and “no.” According to the wording of the provision, the law does not apply to any victim whose claim would have been barred (past the statute of limitations) prior to the effective date of October 1, 2017. In other words, the law says that it does not apply to any victim who turned 25 prior to October 1, 2017. But, Maryland’s highest court has held that the law extends the statute of limitations for anyone whose claim had not expired on the effective date. So, a victim who turns 25 on October 2, 2017 or anytime thereafter will have until he or she is 38 to bring suit.
The Law Makes it Easier to Sue Gov"
https://www.marylandaccidentattorneyblo … ual-abuse/lol: No wonder you're a little misinformed Sharlee01, your source appears to be an ambulance chaser: I would suggest you go to a reliable source in the future:
There was another EXPERT on CNN today which included as options for the alleged victim, the filing of criminal charges against Brett, the alleged attempted rapist: If it were my client, I'd testify to the republican kangaroo court next week then immediately file criminal charges thereafter to get a fair, necessary investigation:
But don't worry Sharlee01, regardless of what happens or what the alleged victim says if she does testify, it will mean nothing to the corrupt republicans because the 'fix' is already in: Apparently, scarecrow Mitch McConnell, the idiot who held open a SCS for over a year already has YES votes from republican senators Collins, Murkowski, Flake and Corker, ALL phonies who pretend to actually care"
McConnell's 'FIX': Not even the slightest attempt to conceal the massive Bozo Trump/ Republican corruption anymore: UNREAL:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/po … 6a6ac48762Here are a few more links in regards to the actual bill. I have t provided a link that is the actual bill. I realize that CNN, as well as MSNBC, is dishing this up for your feed today. However, I guess you forgot they are Fake News. When it comes to any state laws, they are very easy to obtain each and every state has a website with their laws. I did provide a very condensed version of House Bill 642. I think you should read the entire bill in regards to SOL. Jake might be time to drop it. I have well proved the judge cannot be charged with sexual abuse that may have occurred 36 years ago... Facts are Facts. CNN--- LOL
General Assembly Of Maryland
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2017RS/bills/hb/hb0642T.pdf
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMa … ;id=HB0642
https://wtop.com/maryland/2017/04/legis … -pays-off/
I'm going to post this again, because it seems you missed it, which is easy to do among the back and forth of different comments:
Housebill 642 (that is the one mentioned in the story you linked to) is for ". . . the purpose of altering the statute of limitations in certain civil actions relating to child sexual abuse"(1)(emphasis added).
This means the bill is irrelevant to the allegations made against Kavanaugh becase:
1. Both parties were minors at the time of the alleged offense, so it does not meet the definition of child sexual abuse.
2. The bill relates to "civil" actions (someone's right to sue) not criminal prosecutions.
Based on accounts of the alleged incident currently in the public domain, the applicable offense would be attempted rape.
According to the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN) there is currently no statute of limitations for criminal prosecutions of attempted rape in Maryland(3).
Also (though it's a moot point in this case) there is no statute of limitations for criminal prosecution of child sexual abuse in the state of Maryland either.
Therefore, as far as I can tell, Kavanaugh remains in legal jeopardy in relation to a criminal prosecution for attempted rape.
Feel free to provide additional information if you think anything in this comment is factually incorrect.
(1) http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2017RS/chapt … b0642T.pdf
(2) https://codes.findlaw.com/md/family-law … 5-701.html
(3) https://apps.rainn.org/policy/policy-cr … mp;group=7After reading Sharlee's link, it strongly appears that you are correct - there is nothing there that has anything to do with the Kavanaugh accusations.
However, your links provide almost nothing, either. Unless she claims Kavanaugh stated "I'm going to rape you" she cannot actually claim anything but "attempted sexual offense"...and that is no longer a crime. Obviously rape will be her conclusion, but that can only be in her mind - she cannot possible prove that Kavanaugh intended rape rather than a lesser offense.Someone made a factually incorrect statement about statutes of limitations.
I am merely pointing that out.
I don't have enough information to determine with certainty if a charge of attempted rape can be brought.
But a charge of attempted rape would not be dependent on whether Kavanaugh explicitly stated rape as his intention.All an interesting courtroom game. How do you prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that, even if K admits to trying to pull her clothes off, that his intent was rape? Was he trying to embarrass her? Grope her? Get an incriminating photo? Impress his buddies?
That "reasonable doubt" thing leaves a huge gap in her assumption that rape was the intent.Characterizing it as a "game" is distasteful wilderness. I think you know better.
Only an investigation can determine whether there is enough evidence to charge Kavanaugh with a crime. And if he were charged, only a trial could determine whether he is guilty of an offense.Distasteful, yes, but it is still very much a game. A game where one lawyer tries to find legal loopholes to get a guilty client off and the other tries to negate evidence to prove guilt.
A shameful thing, but the way all too many of our court trials proceed today. And the prize for winning is to further a career or maintain freedom.
Wilderness,
I agree with your basic premise. If this was a court of law, she has no case, which is why she probably never brought it up before. Even if she went to a police station, the case wouldn't have gone very far. No prosecutor would have taken the case. But this isn't a trial.
Your point about intent is an interesting one. If this is true was his intent rape? If it wasn't his intent, then is he not guilty?
Let me ask you something: if you're standing in the middle of the street and I'm driving my car toward you, looking at my cell phone, and I run you over and kill you, am I innocent of all charges because I didn't intend to run you over?Actually, many lawyers would disagree with you on this one Don and many attempted rape legal actions have been pursued with the same level of evidence:
An investigation which would ensue if a legal action were pursued would inevitably uncover even more evidence: But, the 'fix' is already in for Brett, McConnell has already informed the right wing crazies that he's gonna just plow through and confirm him despite what the alleged victim says if indeed she testifies:Let's be realistic here, this was 30+ years ago. Regardless of whether it's true or not, no prosecutor would push this case and I'm reasonably confident that no prosecutor would have pushed it back then either based on her allegation. Sure, she's accusing him of attempted rape. She has one witness who denies the allegation. She has nobody to corroborate her story.
This could all very well be true and she's credible, but there's simply no evidence to support her. There just isn't.
That said, it's a good lesson in why women don't come forward with these types of crimes. It's because they're attacked mercilessly and in a he said/she said sort of situation, it's just a game of character assassination. That's exactly what's happening here.
What we are seeing here, and have seen in the past when the political positions were reversed, are a lot of men coming forward to claim that the behavior that is alleged in this scenario is okay, excusable, not a crime; etc.
THAT is the real revelation here. Men think that this sort of behavior is okay. And so do a lot of women.
I am being realistic Don, absent another eye witness aside from the alleged attempted rape victim and or DNA evidence and or video or audio tape, most cases of this type are decided upon by determining which of the two parties is telling the truth and the preponderance of evidence now is clearly in the alleged victims favor:
Looking at it realistically, why would the alleged victim destroy her life by bringing this public if it didn't happen?
Even Chris Wallace of fox loser network said a little while ago that there is NO statute of limitations for this type of crime and said filing a criminal suit is STILL an option for the alleged victim which is exactly what I'd advise her to do:Can you find a single person, man or woman, who would state publicly that it is all right to hold a woman down and tear off her clothing? Someone not in a mental hospital, that is?
Can you point to a single case of a claim of attempted rape, where the claim is the sole evidence and the verdict was guilty? You say there are many of them - can you produce even one?
"An investigation which would ensue if a legal action were pursued would inevitably uncover even more evidence"
An interesting statement when there is no way of knowing if there is more evidence or even if the allegation has a single iota of truth in it.
Nevertheless, you may well be right, for the objective is not to find truth; it is to keep a qualified man from the halls of SCOTUS. Truth takes a back seat to that, if indeed it matters at all, right?
Yes, you are guilty. If you drive toward me, swerving at the last moment and miss, are you guilty of attempted murder?
That is the correct comparison, not one where you actually did kill, for the claim is attempted rape and there is no evidence of any attempt to rape. Even if it is stipulated that Kavanaugh tried to remove clothing there is still no evidence of attempted rape for any such "evidence" is only in the mind of the accuser and cannot be supported (with the "evidence" given at this point, anyway).Yeah, and considering the alleged victim said Brett pinned her down then cuffed his hand over her mouth to the point where she feared for her life, maybe it wasn't attempted rape, perhaps it was attempted murder instead:
Wilderness, in your comparison, no crime has been committed. So trying to remove a woman's clothing against her will is not a crime? That seems to be what you're saying.
You're not paying attention. In my scenario there most certainly IS a crime - reckless driving if nothing else - but not attempted murder for there was never any attempt to kill.
And yanking a woman's clothing against her will is a crime as well (assault if nothing else) - just not (necessarily) attempted rape.Good thing your not a lawyer wilderness: If a person holds his hand over your mouth or face against your will impeding your ability to scream for help and cutting off your air supply and you fear for your life combined with all the other violent, unlawful actions which allegedly took place that's called assault and battery, attempted rape and perhaps attempted murder: Criminal charges should be filed:
The INSANITY: Seriously, do Trump fans even think for themselves anymore? I mean really, they should start thinking about the humanity and what's actually right and wrong before launching their desperate attempts at trying to defend evil wrong doers instead of blindly following the most corrupt, brain dead, charlatan numbskull who ever infiltrated our oval office and thank God he'll be removed very very soon, along with many of his Russian republican accomplices in congress:
I think he is trying to say there is no proof of a crime... Not that that seems to matter to liberals. No crime has been proven, this woman is clearly not even going to come forward. No one has stepped forward from her coworkers, friends neighbors... No one, this speaks loud about her character or lack of...
I can't figure out why, when basically any woman comes forward with a rape allegation or attempted rape, the immediate reaction is to smear her. And then people wonder why women don't come forward.
And it's also interesting that there's a much larger push to excuse the behavior of men. Getting drunk, touching women inappropriately, grabbing - whatever. It's just boys being boys.
But a woman comes forward with a story about this and she's the villain. Every time. And questions are always asked: Why was she drunk? Why didn't she call the police? Why didn't she yell for help?"...when basically any woman comes forward with a rape allegation or attempted rape, the immediate reaction is to smear her."
That's just a tad bit out of line, isn't it? A woman goes to the police, bloodied and with typical rape damage, and the cops smear her? I think you own everyone an apology on that one.
On the other hand, women coming forth 30 years after an alleged incident, expecting to be believed without proof and with obvious reasons to lie probably should be "smeared" some, if that means questioning her motives and alleged facts.Well, it's obviously hyperbole, but it is very common when a woman comes forward with allegations, be it of domestic abuse or rape at a frat party, the party line always seems to be to question her behavior, but not the behavior of the alleged perpetrator.
And then everyone wonders why women don't come forward when they're attacked.
What is "typical" rape damage?I don't have any reason to believe this woman. She has produced no evidence as of yet. I certainly will believe her if she can prove her allegations. Actually, this has nothing to do with gender, it has to do with anyone is innocent until proven guilty. In my own opinion, so far this woman has not conducted herself very well. She has put absolutely no proof of the attack. Anyone she said was at the party, women and men, have denied any remembrance of the party. Perhaps if she tells her story on Thursday, and someone steps up and collaborates her story my opinion will change. Now, this appears to be nothing but a dirty Dem smear campaign. This is sickening, and I find it disturbing dems are standing up and without evidence claiming this man is guilty. Makes me absolutely sick. What kind of vague mind could buy into this form of justice?
What kind of evidence do you expect her to produce? She said there was nobody in the room but her, Kavanaugh, and this other guy. Do you expect that either one of them is just going to come foward and say "oh, yeah, I tried to rape her?" Of course not. All she really has is the power of her convictions and her story. We'll see how that holds up.
She apparently took a lie detector test, so that's something.
And let's just assume, for argument's sake, that this happened the way she says it did. What could she possibly do to corroborate anything that she's said?
I have already said that I think there's no way for there to be resolution on this. However, what should now be looked at, is this book that Kavanaugh's buddy wrote about their time at the prep school. What kind of behaviors did they engage in? Was their sole goal there to get drunk every weekend? I'm not saying such behavior is wrong, but I think holding SCOTUS nominees to higher standards is acceptable.I except the people that she claimed were at the party even remember the party... The Republicans have questioned her witnesses, There is 4 none recall ever being at such a party. I expect her to remember her good friend home, where it was located. I expect her to remember how old she was. All of what I have mentioned would never, never be forgotten. No one has viewed any lie detector test results. No one has ever seen the letter she sent to her Diane Finestein. Could you possibly even conceive this man is innocent? If so could you put yourself in his shoes? My god, can we say anything about anyone? Is this the kind of justice you ascribe to? 65 women he has worked with have stepped forward and claimed him to be a gentleman. No one has stepped up to say anything about this woman? Yes, 200 alumni from her high school have stepped forward, but few claim to actually know her? The alumni spend years of women that attended the school. This to me shows nothing of true support. Most that signed that document has never met her? This reeks of a smear campaign.
She took a lie detector test - about something but no one knows what. That no one has seen. That no one knows the administrator of. That no one knows what questions or answers were asked. That's not much of a "something", is it?
"What could she possibly do to corroborate anything that she's said?"
Absolutely nothing, or she would have already produced it. So why bring it up?
"I have already said that I think there's no way for there to be resolution on this."
And here is also the answer to the previous question. To hurt Kavanaugh, who has a connection to the President and who, from evidence presented, is more likely to have snubbed her at that party. To hurt Trump, who she apparently demonstrated against. To help the Democratic party. To promote liberal agendas, known or unknown. To assuage a 15 year old's memory of 36 years ago that is faulty. Preventing his appointment would be a fine "resolution" for any or all of these and could make a fine answer to the "why?".
This woman came forward so she could have her life ruined and her family threatened? I don't think anyone would knowingly come forward aware of what would happen to them.
Your assertion is that she decided to come forward and smear Kavanaugh for what purpose? I presume you think she's being paid off by the Democratic Party and after this is all over she'll go live on George Soros' estate?
And how many parties do you remember from 35 years ago? As far as her memory, I guess we'll see when she testifies.
What's your experience with people who attend schools like Georgetown Prep? My experience is that act like entitled rich kids who believe they deserve everything that comes to them and everyone around them should bow to their desires because they are the elite. The world is their oyster. They are masters of the universe. And really, this is true. The rich own this country.
Yes without any form of evidence they would not follow up with the complaint. This woman can't remember the house who was at the party, even what year it was. She absolutely no evidence or witnesses of a crime. Not even who gave the party she claimed to have gone to.
A comprehensive investigation would absolutely uncover additional facts pertaining to the alleged attempted rape by Brett and more evidence has already come to light, I hope after she testifies if she does in front a mega-corrupt Russian complicit republican senate which has already 'rigged' and 'fixed' the votes in favor of a man who may have sexually assaulted her, she then files a criminal case to force an investigation:
I guess senators Collins, Murkowski, Corker and Flake have already informed scarecrow McConnell of their YES Votes, even before the alleged victim has said word one: Your hard earned tax dollars and your corrupt republican public servants who have no interest in finding the truth, at work for strictly political gain:When Ford testifies, we'll find out then if there's enough information to make an investigation at the federal level feasible, and if so, it would be wise of Trump to withdraw support for Kavanaugh. Her testimony is essential to discover if Kavanaugh MIGHT have done what she claims he did. Her testimony will make or break her.
Can there be enough evidence to support a FBI investigation of a violation of purely state law? Is that what we want the FBI to be - another state cop?
Just a thought, but one we might want to consider.
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
The ideological game here is that simply the allegation of sexual misconduct charge alone that is made is then charge enough for guilt by Kavanaugh haters . Yes, It is broken down among party lines here , that is more than obvious and vibrantly typical .
Watch as the gathering " troops " line up behind Prof. Ford and immediately something even bigger than the allegations themselves begins to form; the political players start to reveal themselves immediately . The "Clintonesques Quartet " would be a great name for the Prof. Ford team .Then that's what we'll see. The Republicans own the Senate, and can choose to move things along as quickly as they want after Ford's testimony. If there's nothing to her allegations, it will be clear to us really soon, and the Senate will confirm Kavanaugh.
Oh Kavanaugh will be confirmed ,except at his dropping out , but the "Clintonesque Quartet " was chosen long before Kavanaugh's nomination , liberals are like that , just one more Alinsky plan of action . To heck with truth and to heck with the individual woman's rights- full speed ahead , that is exactly what this Prof. Ford's Alinskyette sacrificial lamb is all about .
Its all political. Why do they kid themselves about this?
He has been happily married and is psychologically beyond all that growing-up stuff that happened in his adolescence. People change.- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
A whole lot of people , especially here , don't have the slightest grasp of due process .
'Beattie Eyes' Brett Under Water: Majority of Americans want an FBI investigation into the attempted rape allegation against Brett BEFORE the 'rigged' confirmation proceeds: Considering the alleged victim passed a polygraph test, her credibility is bolstered:
FBI investigation of the alleged crime?
YES 53%
No 47%
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407 … -kavanaughBreaking BIG ******* Developing NOW: HUGE: I think we've ll learned the old saying, 'Where there's smoke there's fire' and in this case we might be headed straight for a raging Kavanaugh inferno:
DISTURBING: Second woman accuser comes forward:
"As Senate Hearing Set For Kavanaugh, a Second Woman Claims Misconduct"
"The New Yorker magazine reported Sunday night that Senate Democrats were investigating a second woman's accusation of sexual misconduct by Kavanaugh dating to the 1983-84 academic year, Kavanaugh's first at Yale University."
"The New Yorker said 53-year-old Deborah Ramirez described the incident in an interview after being contacted by the magazine. Ramirez recalled that Kavanaugh exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away, the magazine reported."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati … story.htmlSorry, I lost track.
Do we all now accept there is no statute of limitations barring Kavanaugh's prosecution, or is there still some disagreement there?
Or was that another thread entirely?LOL I think it was another thread. Could be wrong though - it certainly wouldn't be the first time I've mistaken one for another!
HXPROF WROTE:
Yep, it looks like Kavanaugh is in trouble.
No Dems are in Nov... LOL
yes, a second accuser again with memory loss and no witnesses. Dah... This is a very pitiful scam by Dems. just won't work. We are over this kind of evil dirty politicking.
Then you must have been OVER Bozo Trump's evil dirty undermining of the USA long ago Sharleeoi:
But don't worry, if scarecrow Mitch McConnell's corrupt intent to suppress Beattie Eye's Brett's history, or he fails to conduct a necessary investigation into the GROWING number of criminal allegations against this alleged monster who has yet to take polygraph to try and clear his name, and if he's forced to try and find another republican nominee, any republican who has NO criminal allegations against him or her and fails, republicans still have OJ Simpson and alleged child molester Hillbilly Roy Moore on deck:
Imagine that, Brett nominated by another self absorbed alleged woman abuser Bozo Trump who will soon be forced to answer questions under oath in a Summer Zervos' defamation law suit pending against him: They'd make a great couple, in prison:
Oh My GOD, and then there's Michael Avenatti who never bluffs about anything: He tweeted this message of warning:
"I represent a woman with credible information regarding Judge Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. We will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify. The nomination must be withdrawn."
Will scarecrow Mitch McConnell allow the growing number of alleged victims to testify or continue with his corrupt intent to JAM Beattie Eye's Brett through regardless of what impeaching evidence comes to light?Scarecrow? Beady eyed? Bozo?
Glass houses, man. Glass houses.I just have to say this... Do you realize that all these individuals you find it so easy to insult are well accomplished human beings? They have strived to reach the positions they hold. Not sure you have the right to insult their character or their appearances. Find that mirror, and have a look see.
Ramirez's accusations are even flimsier than I thought. NO ONE she mentions as a witness to the event is in agreement with her. Of those so called witnesses, the ones that knew Kavanaugh all say that he wouldn't have done that.
Ford will have her hearing on Thursday, and things will then move forward, very likely with a vote on Kavanaugh's confirmation.This is clearly a planned attempt to derail Kavanaugh being placed on the SC. We have seen this low of character from the Dems for many years. They are evil and care little about anything but winning. Although it is very clear anyone with any common sense has turned their backs on the party. People with good common sense speak with softly but take action... Vote
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- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Women who have aligned themselves with the now hijacked party of the left have willingly sacrificed themselves at the altar of political attention and all amid the crowds of dishonest news media . Face it , haven't you have taken ten steps backwards by doing so .
Why do I ask ? Because honesty is not one of the strong points of your "new party" affiliations . In fact dishonesty is a strategy of Alinsky politics , My advice , do not be too proud to read "Rules for Radicals" and when you do , you might just come to the knowledge that liberals as democrats do not have a good record of loyalty to cause , hypocrisy is too prevalent a characteristic of the activist left , when their media camera's turn off the spotlights , the individual is relegated back to their place in line . So if you have been feeling that you've already been "last in line " in liberal politics ,Kaboom ! Welcome to the new hypocritical democratic party. - Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
It is highly irresponsible of the supporters here to ignore the lack of her notifying the legal system in a timely manner at the alleged incident just to hold onto them until a supreme court confirmation hearing ,ludicrous in fact ! It isn't impossible to see why people behind Kavanaugh believe it's all just political BECAUSE his nomination and confirmation decides the whole SCOTUS design for the next generation or two .
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Yet people , The media is not the place for a legal trial , the FBI doesn't get involved in wild frat party escapades , a supreme court confirmation is not the time to chose to become a #Metto soldier for the political cause . Apparently a lot of you here have too many compromised ethics , morals and memories of your own youths that you are reviving .
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Guess what people , It's pretty simple , Where's the rape kit , where are the witness' . where is the crime report [ from 36 years ago } , the confession , where's the police report , the corroborating witness' , where's Bill's -------Ah sorry Brett's DNA on her dress ?
No Crime - No Charges -No Trial -No Punishment .
Someone should prove something besides Trump Obstruction .Rape kit? When is there a rape kit in an attempted rape?
And most rapes and attempted rapes go unreported because there is so little support from the legal community and the police and the general public. It's usually the woman who is at fault. And, frankly, he said/she said cases are hard to prosecute.Of course , So right or wrong , good or bad , win or lose . The woman will have to " let it go " , Kavanaugh WILL be confirmed and we will all watch that happen .
There are just too many unprovables to this entire media smear .Whatever. If I was raped by this man, this would be the perfect time to bring it up because you're not going to get justice any other way.
EXPLOSION ******* Mega- Eruption ******** Developing Now: I had a hunch criminal charges against the alleged assaulter might be filed sooner or later and we still don't know how many more accusers if any might come forward; Michael Avenatti didn't rule out filing criminal charges on the Rachel Maddow show and he's made several demands of the crazy, radical ultra-hypocritical republican congress including what I've been calling for as an initial stage of this critically important investigation, a POLYGRAPH Test for Brett:
From the shocking allegations and additional info breaking that I've been reading in horror, this whole supremely atrocious mess has also taken a very disturbing turn and press reports indicate we just might be headed straight for a horrendous situation similar to Bill Cosby's which would be outrageous: Let's pray to God for the best and hope it's not what it's beginning to look like: GOD Have Mercy on Brett's Family:
Michael Avenatti ALWAYS seems to have the goods when he informs the public of new evidentiary revelations: No wonder scarecrow looking Mitch McConnell has been trying to jam this guy through at light speed: UNREAL and Despicable:
"Avenatti promises new Kavanaugh accuser to come forward in next 48 hours"
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics … index.htmlYes, creepy porn lawyer has crawled out from under his rock. I am just surprised his girlfriend disgusting Gloria Alrred has not wriggled out behind him? LOL
You must be here for comic relief Sharlee01 because Porn stars deserve legal representation just like everyone else: But if that's what you think about Michael Avenatti for representing Stormy Daniels and who has been victorious over Bozo Trump, what do you think about the obese orange blob in the oval office who actually spent the night with the porn star while his wife was home with child !!!???
You'll never go to hell for representing a porn star like Michael Avenatti, but you absolutely will go to hell for spending the night with one while your WIFE is home pregnant:
'Beattie Eyes' Bart Kavanot appears to be in deep legal trouble and jeopardy, but let's see if scarecrow Mitch McConnell can JAM him through despite serious allegations related to his OUTRAGEOUSLY Despicable past: At least maybe he can serve on the supreme court for a few months until criminal charges are filed right?"what do you think about the obese orange blob in the oval office who actually spent the night with the porn star while his wife was home with child !!!???"
Actually, I consider they had consensual sex and the greedy low life porn star hit him up with blackmail. Now last I knew one could have sex, and extortion is a crime. This aging porn star then hooked up with a very creepy weird looking attorney who told her to ignore a legally binding agreement, and most likely when that case is heard which should be soon, she will end up guilty of a crime and find lots of money. Which will go into Trump's coffers? It's an open and shut case. She broke the law... And for her case against Trump for slander for calling her a liar. She will lose that too... I mean what kind of woman signs an agreement never to talk about her night with Trump and then decides to break the agreement just does not appear honest. I mean call me crazy, but this sort of looks a bit bad. LOL
In regards to Mrs. Trump, it's her life, and it's apparent she could care less. Oh, and one other thing she can't prove she ever slept with Trump. Just no proof, sort of like this Ford woman, I would say.So what do you think about the obese orange blob's one night stand while his wife was home pregnant? That get's you a one way ticket to hell according to my bible:
You said Bozo Trump and Michael Cohen would prevail with their insane law suit to try and bilk Stormy Daniels out of millions for speaking in public but that didn't work out so well for the con man in chief did it? He LOST and LOST Big:
Bill Cosby was sentence to prison today, not a good sign for Bozo or 'beattie eyes' Brett, don't be surprised to see both on the lamb soon:The only place Brett is headed is the Supreme Court. And the dems latest scam just put a nail in their coffin in regards to the Nov election. Must feel horrible seeing your party crumble.
You might be right on that one Sharlee01, beattie eyes Brett could actually shoot someone on 5th avenue and probably get confirmed, the 'fix' is in: In this short yet ultra crazy era of Bozo Trump, the corruption is just conducted in broad daylight for which he will pay dearly for presumably very soon:
You have it backwards, the republican party is collapsing while the Dems grow stronger and stronger:
Still no comment on the big orange blob who shacked up with the porn star while his wife was home pregnant wit sir Barron of York? Yeah, didn't think so:
Bozo Trump is going straight to hell and he knows it, his purpose at this point is to just take as many gullible souls down into the white hot pit with him:
Breaking BIG ******* EXPLOSION *******: Michael Avenatti says he'll soon introduce yet another alleged sexual assault victim to the public: MORE Huge legal jeopardy for Bozo Trump and his little beattie eyed supreme court pal Brett which the extreme right wing nut cases simply adore:
When and if we get a final count on the alleged victims, Avenatti should just roll them all up into a condensed criminal law suit and proceed from there:
SHOCKING:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK3DWWjlhaII don't take him seriously. He's just "trumping" stuff up for notoriety.
Too bad, Michael Avenatti never bluffs and always delivers and he forced Bozo Trump to capitulate in that NDA agreement where Michael Cohen and he tried to bilk Stormy Daniels out of millions bluffs:
Breaking news! Wow! Looks like creepy porn lawyer has lost the slander case he was handling for Stormy? Oh well, I am waiting to see the case Cohen has brought against Story for breaking a NDA... Wonder how much she will pay Trump? She may have to hit the road and earn some case or maybe just try blackmailing some of her clients.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-appe … nst-trump/Typical Trump fan. total disregard for the truth because that case has yet to be dismissed and or adjudicated and the Trump NDA against Stormy Daniels will not be enforced by Bozo Trump because they are fearful of being deposed by Michael Avenatti:
Sharlee01, you might want to try another legitimate news soucre instead of fox propaganda channel:
But this is irrelevant to the severe crisis in our dysfunctional white house and the severe criminal jeopardy beattie eyes Brett now finds himself in:
If the new SHOCKING allegations are true, we should expect even more victims to emerge and hopefully Avenatti brings this where it belongs, to a court of law:I don't understand this. Stormy Daniels is the bad person for sleeping with Trump and accepting money to keep quiet, but Trump isn't a bad person for sleeping with Stormy and paying her to keep quiet about it?
I never shared my feelings or opinion on extramarital affairs. I do not approve of them. I reminded Jake that Stormy "claimed to have had consensual sex with Trump. (he denied the act). I also reminded him she took money from Cohen not to discuss the fact that she had sex with Trump. Seems if Trump actually slept with her which there is no evidence of, she shook him down for cash to keep quiet about it. Let's face it if Trump cheated on his wife, he certainly is a poor husband, and cares little about his marriage, and showed poor moral values. Now her, she sold her body for money, I consider that disgusting, and immoral. Plus shaking someone down for cash, that's just a sleazy.
Your application of somebody's character as "disgusting" and "immoral" is very curious.
I have not seen anywhere where it's been asserted that Stormy Daniels blackmailed Donald Trump. That is certainly a new one. From everything that I've seen and read, Michael Cohen and Donald Trump drafted an agreement and paid Stormy Daniels the money so she would not discuss having had sex with Donald Trump. That would seem to be proof that he had sex with Stormy Daniels, but you seem to be asserting that Trump did not have sex with her, but paid her off because she threatened to reveal an affair that didn't really happen.
Breaking BIG ******* Developing Now: Not only are the serious criminal allegations of attempted rape and various other sexual violations which in a law abiding, normally functioning democracy would be without a doubt automatic and immediate disqualifiers for any individual seeking to serve on the highest court in our crumbling country, but now adding to that immense dark cloud of disturbing turbulence hanging over Brett's head are allegations that he was a very heavy drinker of alcohol:
"Kavanaugh Was ‘Aggressive And Belligerent’ When Drunk, His Yale Roommate Says"
"Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s freshman roommate at Yale University came forward late Monday, describing Kavanaugh as “a heavy drinker” who became “aggressive and belligerent” when drunk."
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ka … 5f8fa04108Earth Shattering ******* SHOCKING *******: Developing NOW *******: Looks like Bill Cosby might soon have prison mates, an X-Judge and X-Impostor President: If you follow the REAL news you'll discover that Avenatti NEVER bluffs despite what that fox loser news knuckle headed carpet-bagger Tucker Carlson cries about:
As long as you accept reality which I do but many Trump fans still obviously don't, it really didn't take a genius to arrive at the logical conclusion that this despicable Kavanaugh scandal just might take a drastically mega-disturbing dark turn into 'Cosby-Land' but that's what it looked like to me and unfortunately for all the women coming forward to express their heart stopping, unimaginably painful allegations, my hunch appears to be correct if the latest news is accurate:
UNREAL Explosion *******: So not only must Kavanaugh be disqualified from our supreme court, he now faces serious criminal allegations which could indeed jeopardize his current position:
SHOCKING ** SHOCKING ** SHOCKING **
"New Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick details parties where she says girls were drugged and raped"
"The lawyer Michael Avenatti on Wednesday identified another accuser of Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh, Washington resident Julie Swetnick."
"Swetnick, in an affidavit posted online by Avenatti, claims that Kavanaugh, as a high school student in the early 1980s, with others spiked the drinks of girls at house parties with grain alcohol and/or drugs to "cause girls to lose inhibitions and their ability to say 'No.' "
"Swetnick said these efforts by Kavanaugh and his buddy Mark Judge were done so the girls "could then be 'gang raped' in a side room or bedroom by a 'train' of numerous boys."
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/michael … tnick.htmlThe latest accuser of horrendous crimes which she says Kavanaugh committed, testified under penalty of prosecution, she's also a government employee who holds several clearances:
No surprise one of the prime witnesses, a creepy character named Mark Judge who was placed at the scene with beattie eyes Brett appears to be in hiding: ALL the alleged victims so far against Kavanaugh, and we must assume there could be many more to come, are willing to destroy their lives and testify under oath with the penalty of perjury hanging over them while Brett refuses to take a polygraph and his reported friend, a main witness appears to be scared to death of being found:
"How’d you find me?’: Mark Judge has been holed up in a beach house in Delaware amid a media firestorm"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig … 41571b8f7dI hope everyone is watching Bozo Trump's astoundingly disturbing press conference or, clown show right now: One more public example of why this sick elderly man must be removed from our oval office immediately:
Incoherent sentences, incomplete sentences, hate, anger, excessive complaining, whining and crying, agitation, lies, false facts, false accusations of fake news, talking in circles, ignorance, narcissistic babblings, ramblings rants, switching from topic to topic, stumbling, retarded hand gestures, repeating words etc:
It's horrifying to think this disturbed old man still has the keys to our white house and he's the guy who nominated Brett Kavanaugh to our supreme court on top of it: Now do you know why all these criminal allegations are surfacing against Brett?:How do you rest when the USA is crumbling to the ground? This country is in an unprecedented dire crisis in which our democracy is at stake and insiders have corroborated it: When the USA and the world is safe from the incoherent mental case in our oval office who is sabotaging our healthcare and who betrays us by siding with Vladimir Putin over his own law enforcement, then yes, maybe I'll rest:
BTW Sharlee01, don't be surprised if Michael Avenatti files criminal charges against 'beattie eyes' Brett and don't be surprised if he's convicted and joins Bill Cosby as cell mate, shortly thereafter to be joined by the orange blob:
"Incoherent sentences, incomplete sentences, hate, anger, excessive complaining, whining and crying, agitation, lies, false facts, false accusations of fake news, talking in circles, ignorance, narcissistic babblings, ramblings rants, switching from topic to topic, stumbling, retarded hand gestures, repeating words etc:"
None of that described President Donald J. Trump. I can think of someone it does describe though.It's obvious you didn't watch his pathetic spectacle today: But hey, at least you can still just excuse his strange behavior with the old tired and boring 'he's not politically correct':
In reality Wesman, all of that I described in my previous comment does indeed describes Bozo Trump's disastrously erratic and bizarre press conference today, if that's what you call it: He has serious concentration problems with a 2 minute non-teleprompter speech and today he went on and on babbling about nonsense at time for about 80 minutes which just re-inforced Yale and Harvard experts assertions that he's a danger to our republic:
- Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago0
Sometimes the Trump obstructionists just have to go out on a limb
in their strategies , We all understand , when you've got nothing BUT Lies to use , use the lies to the best of your abilities ?No comment on this poor excuse and wasted space:
Breaking BIG ******* Developing NOW *******: No surprise even more accusers with appalling accounts are coming forward and given current shocking sexual assault stories reported by the press, there will presumably be even MORE alleged victims before all is said and done especially considering some the extremely disturbing press reports suggest Bill Cosby style criminal activity:
According to reports, we are up to 5 accusers so far and it doesn't take a genius to believe there will be more:
"Senate probed new allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh
Supreme Court Nominee was asked about an anonymous accusation of physical assault."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem … gh-n913581Sure Jake......... , will THEY also not answer questions specifically or provide uncertain details about the circumstances about THEIR experiences , like where did it happen , what exactly happened , who were all the witness' present , what time it was , how much did you drink , what you did either before or after the incident ?
Instead of trying desperately to spread right wing propaganda you should watch the hearing, all of your false claims have been answered and MORE, especially Dr. Ford's 100% certainty that Brett was the perpetrator of this heinous crime, she also said he was inebriated at the time which is not a defense and Dr. Ford passed a polygraph test in which Brett has yet to do:
In reality, according to shocking press reports this whole Kavanot nightmare is headed straight into Bill Cosby land: Brett Kavanot will be extremely lucky to avoid prison after ALL the accusers have come forward:
If 'Beattie Eyes' Brett is with Mr. Trump, he is absolutely evil just like alleged child molester Roy Moore which Donald told his cultees to vote for, YES, he actually told his voters to vote for an alleged pedophile so his support for this Kavanaugh radical is no surprise: UNREAL:
Today, after we hear his crying and old boring blaming the Clintons for his dire situation similar to Bozo Trump's insane unhinged outbursts, I'm waiting to see if Brett was able to take a polygraph and if said results will be submitted to this republican kangaroo court; Dr Ford has the significant edge in credibility due to her positive polygraph test results and additional corroborating evidence while Brett has nothing but his Trump style rants:I mean seriously, is Brett gonna slobber and blubber all over his papers and suit pants or is he going to submit corroborating evidence like polygraph results to support his assertions?
Then, after that, if he actually submits solid evidence, he needs to immediately get some ongoing professional mental help because this public breakdown is very hard to watch and could be a sign of serious underlying problems:Dr. Ford has more credibillity??? What freakin' planet are you from? I watched enough of the proceedings today that I've no doubt that Ford is telling the truth - she was attacked. And I've no doubt that Kavanaugh's telling the truth - he didn't do it. But what is also clear is that the Democrats dragged Ford through the mud by holding on to the information in the letter so they could use her for their own purposes - it's crystal clear. Their desire for an FBI investigation is absolutely one thing, delay. They've no interest in what the FBI would find, because they know the FBI would find nothing that hasn't already been discussed.
This current crop of Democrats in the Senate disgust me. What a pack of inhuman dogs. Kavanaugh didn't deserve any of this, and Ford could have been spared if Diane Fine Fiend had done the right thing and brought that letter forward. I simply can't believe what the Democrats did to both these people, and in particular Kavanaugh. I was livid while watching this, this freakin' circus, watching a man SUFFER needlessly while people pretending to care about Dr. Ford posed meaningless questions to Kavanaugh, often asking questions that had already been asked, or already answered by him.
These inhuman dogs sought to destroy a man's career and family, and at the same time they denigrated a person whom they pretended to be helping, all in the name of preventing a conservative judge from getting to the bench. These Democratic senators, most of them anyway, are EVIL.
When does this Trump era INSANITY end? We now have a very sick elderly man roaming around in our oval office who has nominated another very sick mentally unstable and unhinged man to our supreme court and believe it or not, he's actually this close to being jammed on to the highest court in the land:
It's shocking that he's a judge now, how on this Earth can this obviously disturbed, belligerent, uncontrollably violent and paranoid elite man who believes in ridiculous partisan 'Clinton Conspiracies' possibly be embedded by a bunch of corrupt, crazy right wing senile senators to serve for decades ????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DM1m1aUp_cJake's questions / Kat Hill's answers:
1. Wouldn't you prefer someone with a proven record of not sexually assaulting women to serve as a supreme court justice?
Yes. (His record proves it.)
2. Is criminal behavior acceptable for the US Supreme Court?
No. (what criminal behavior?)
3. Will we have to settle for a less than acceptable nominee who could care less about a woman's rights?
No. (His mother, a judge, cared about women's rights and taught her son well.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/martha-k … other-mom/
4. Will we have a nominee who cares about the rights of the unborn?
Yes. (Unlike Democrat Senator Dick Durbin who supports partial-birth abortion.)Issues associated with women's rights
to bodily integrity and autonomy.
to be free from sexual violence.
to vote.
to hold public office.
to enter into legal contracts.
to have equal rights in family law.
to work.
to fair wages or equal pay.
to have reproductive rights.
to own property.
to education.Breaking BIG ********: During the insane Trump era, where the destruction of this once great nation seems to be the primary objective of our oval office complicit with the conservative congress, the're's very little effort to hide the unprecedented level of despicable republican corruption:
"Brett Kavanaugh’s Damaging, Revealing Partisan Bitterness"
"A Senate confirmation hearing for a Supreme Court nominee is a political affair, not a court proceeding. But when the topic is alleged criminal wrongdoing by the nominee, the distinction can start to blur. We, the public, may feel more like a jury considering evidence than a boss considering an applicant for an important job. Thursday’s hearing, with testimony by Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford, was supposedly intended to reveal whether there was truth to Ford’s allegation that Kavanaugh attempted to rape her, by providing testimony from each of them under oath. But the Senate Judiciary Committee’s focus on whether Kavanaugh did what he was accused of gave way to partisan recriminations about whether the process for considering that question was fair. The damage to the legitimacy of the Supreme Court and the Senate confirmation process is incalculable, whether or not Kavanaugh is confirmed."
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des … nfirmationThe process wasn't fair to either Kavanaugh or Ford. And guess who made it that way? The Democratic Senators did, led by Diane Fine Fiend.
Strange that no Democrats (liberals), either in the committee, Senate or even here on these forums are taking Feinstein to task for what she did. It was absolutely inexcusable and the woman should be "retired" for playing such games with peoples lives, not to speak of refusing to do the job she is collecting a very nice salary for.
They haven't. As far as fellow Democratic Senators go, I'm wondering if they simply can't, or at least they can't and expect to remain long as Senators. I'm not saying that there are a lot of them that wanted to, I'm simply guessing that some of them otherwise would have?
Instead of trying to mislead everyone like all the senile republican senators did yesterday in that disgusting display of insanity, why not tell the truth that Senator Feinstein was asked by Dr. Ford to keep her letter and testimony CONFIDENTIAL:
Then, who knows who leaked it, for all you know it could have been KellyAnne CLOWNway:Well, you can always dream that that's the case. LOL.
Her office had the freakin' letter, so who do you think leaked it? Let me think.....I think possibly, no, very likely, that Diane Fine Fiend leaked it!
Alright, I was too hasty in blaming this on Fine Fiend. I didn't even consider Santa Claus, or the Tooth Fairy.
That's kind of the point; Feinstein was asked to keep it confidential...and it immediately showed up in the press. KellyAnne didn't have a copy, the paper didn't have a copy, the President didn't have a copy; only Feinstein and one other Democratic Senator.
If we leave imagine land, it was one of those two, and my money is on Feinstein. The other one seems to be (at first glance) a decent human being.Let's be honest wilderness, you have no idea who had and or has a copy of that letter nor do you know who leaked it: So let's not spread falsehoods:
But here's the INSANITY of the crazy immoral, unlawfully corrupt Trump era: Believe it or not, RIGHT Now, here in the crumbling Divided States of America, we have an unhinged, mentally unstable, possible alcoholic, possible attempted rapist named Brett WHO IS ALREADY SERVING AS A JUDGE, actually being considered by republican congress persons to serve on our supreme court !!!!! If that's not the epitome of madness I don't know what is:ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT DR. FORD LIED UNDER OATH?!?!
Surely you don't mean that a woman accusing a man of attempted rape, that cannot remember when or where it happened and cannot produce any witnesses agreeing that it could have happened, would lie?!?
How could you suggest a thing? That's horrible! She is a woman that suffered terrible trauma 36 years ago (or something around that time) at the age of about 15 (or so), and as such never lies and never makes a mistake, either - that letter was given to only 2 people just as she said!
Just FYI wilderness, most attempted rape criminal cases that are prosecuted have no eye witnesses because usually the rapist is not dumb enough to do it in the middle of main street or 5th avenue: Their not dumb eneough to commit a crime in broad daylight like someone else we know:
Dr. Ford has corroborating evidence in the form of a polygraph which she passed, she also destroyed her life by coming forward: so where's beattie eyes Brett's polygraph test? And this is just insane, some are STILL talking about this unstable mental case as a legitimate supreme court nominee !!!! UNREAL:
I guess we'll soon find out if the Russian Republican Senate will unconscionable advance an alleged attempted rapist who publicly exhibits unhinged tendencies which is a clear sign of mentally illness, believes in ridiculous right wing nut job conspiracies about the 'Clintons' and who may according to press reports, have problems with alcohol abuse and who is obviously dealing with or perhaps not dealing with severe apparent anger issues:
And this poor excuse for a supreme court candidate was actually nominated by an orange confessed woman sexual assaulter who said so on national television: UNREAL, Surreal and what a pathetic crumbling state of affairs this once great nation is mired in:
GOD Save This Collapsing Country:Looks like GOD is pushing back mightily on Trump's evil deeds: perhaps Senator Flake, Murkowski and Collins will be the designated angels to pick up the 'HERO Mantle' from the late great John McCain who save our healthcare system which is STILL under atrocious assault by Bozo Trump:
It would be nothing less than INSANE to even continue considering an unhinged, right wing conspiracy believing, privileged individual accused of attempted rape for the highest court in the world: Perhaps Flake, Collins and Murkowski can stop this Kavanaugh madness in it's tracks before it's too late:Looks like Satan is giving aid to the Democratic Senators' evil deeds: perhaps Senator Flake, Murkowski and Collins will be the designated servants of Satan to pick up the Obummer mantle from the former president who presided over the destruction of the US healthcare system which still suffers to this day from the atrocious assault by Obummer.
It is, of course, nothing less than EVIL to even consider falling in line with the agenda of the vast leftist conspiracy designed to destroy Kavanaugh. But it looks right now as though Flake, Collins and Murkowski may do exactly that.
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