Trump supporters, please defend and rationalize that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … story.html
Could you could supply a link that doesn't ask for$1 to read it?
By now everyone but a few here seem to "get it "that Trump isn't Mister Rodgers , welcome to the real world .
So lets get this straight , Trump makes a rhetorical remark about a member of the divisive media getting "body slammed " and you get all personally outraged ? That about right ?
And yet you all remain silent as your media bias, your elected political leadership , your hollywood , your sports celebrities , your college professors , your high school teachers , your entire political party advocates violence against anyone supporting DJT AND manifests that into the streets ? This is where you enter all of that " But a president should set a better example for our innocent children paragraph .
In other words, you are OK with Trumpians assaulting journalists.
That's not what Trump or I said , yet if that were to happen is it fair to blame "Trumpians " and not that majority of violence inciting from your own side ?
Then answer the question and the point of the thread instead of running away from it.
Are you in favor of the President of the United States supporting violence against journalists?
Yes or no.
No member of our government should promote violence against media or citizens..,or other members of our government.
I would say that they seem as upset about this as 'conservatives' were when Obama was chastising the Police and giving props to BLM for their anti-police efforts.
Gee, where was all this request for an explanation when it came to what was said by Maxine Waters or Eric Holder? Where was all this when two Republican candidates in Minnesota were assaulted? How about all the conservative who have been hounded out of restaurants? Lets not even start on the mobs at the Kavanaugh hearing or the fact that Republican Congressmen have been shot.
Grow up. President Donald Trump made an off the wall comment and said the man who body slammed the reporter is "My Kind Of Guy." Adults laughed and realized he said it to be funny. That's it. It's not like Maxine Waters instructing people go after conservatives. Eric Holder telling people if they go low...we kick them.
So, ho hum, is this all you have to get upset about? I'm thinking someone needs to get treatment for their TDS.
But, but, but...
Walters stupidly advocated "confronting" politicians. She didn't advocate assaulting them and didn't praise anyone who did.
It's clear from your convoluted rationalization that you're fine with violence against journalists. No surprise considering how much you hate the media.
Someone's TDS is working in overdrive.
Suppose you're okay with Eric Holder? I suppose you're okay with violence against Republican candidates for office. I suppose you're okay with people taking a young guy's MAGA hat in a restaurant and pouring water on him. You justify Maxine Water's statement? Whoa!
The Congressman apologized for his actions and the reporter accepted his apology.
“My physical response to your legitimate question was unprofessional, unacceptable, and unlawful. As both a candidate for office and a public official, I should be held to a high standard in my interactions with the press and the public. My treatment of you did not meet that standard, I made a mistake and humbly ask for your forgiveness.” the 56-year-old said in a letter to Ben Jacobs of the Guardian.
“I have accepted Mr Gianforte’s apology and his willingness to take responsibility for his actions and statements,” he said.
This is a big nothing burger. Geeeeze!
Sooooooooooooooooooooooo...show me all the public apologizes made by Democrats for what has been don to Republicans?
https://www.independent.co.uk/News/worl … 79071.html
Still running away from the point of the thread. We are talking about the President of the United States in a major news story TODAY.
People like you scare me almost as much as Trump. You will defend him no matter what he says or does, immoral or illegal, including violence.
Let's keep it simple for you. Should the President of the United States support violence against journalists?
Yes or no.
The bigger question is should people who seem unable to correctly comprehend a news story be taken serious? Should individuals suffering from TDS make who make unsubstantiated comments based on their inability to see the reality of a situation be worthy of being taken serious? Yes or no.
Is that your yes or no answer to my yes or no question?
I'll take your evasion as a "yes", you are fine with violence against journalists, but you just don't want to admit it on a public forum.
I'll take your TDS as really motivating you to say the things you say. Are you willing to admit to your serious case of TDS on a public forum?
I distinctly remember people on this forum condemning most of the things you just listed.
Thinking that Trump’s “off the wall” comments are terribly unfunny isn’t a symptom of TDS, it’s having a sense of humour that stupid shit like this doesn’t appeal to.
"All the public apologizes made by Democrats for what has been done to Republicans?"
It was funny. The adults knew not to take it serious. There are those of us who can keep things in perspective.
Yeah, the adults who cheered him for saying it. Not laughing. Cheering.
You still are evading the point of the thread.
It’s not that I take him too seriously or can’t keep things in perspective... it’s that he’s just not funny. I actually love humour that toes the line of being offensive but only when it’s done with some intelligence and wit. He’s just a silly man and watching people go nuts over his bad jokes makes me genuinely embarrassed to be a human.
I am seeking treatment for TDS. I know part of the remedy is less media; however, I can't get around it, over it, under it or around it.
I bet dollars to doughnuts that those who are criticizing President Donald Trump have not watched the news clip of his speech. He talks about how the Congressman body slammed a reporter right before the election. President Donald Trump thought he would automatically lose the election. Then is says he thought about the people in Montana, and thought this could actually help the Congressman get elected. After laughter he says and "he still got elected." Soooo...how is that anything other than a funny story about an incident that occurred during an election?
You lose again. I saw the clip before I posted. He clapped along with his whooping, clapping and cheering supporters.
Trump encourages violence against the media and reporters. He finds it amusing when things happen to reporters. And the Saudis basically murdered a Washington Post reporter in broad daylight and Trump's first response was to turn the other cheek.
If you think there's no connection between Trump advocating for violence against the media and ACTUAL violence against the media, I think you are a fool.
Want to get in Trump's good graces? Assault a reporter. It's funny!
Are you familiar with the concept of fact? Just wondering.
What facts are you talking about? When the President of the United States encourages violence against the media, calls reporters scum of the earth and enemies of the state, it justifies violence against them.
And please, tell me about facts - evolution, climate change - I've rarely met a conservative who knew how facts become so.
There are people who claim to be conservative but who are not. They just mimic whatever propaganda sounds good to them.
Trump is neither a conservative nor a Republican. He has no clue about conservative or Republican principles. He only cares about what makes him money and pleases his fragile ego.
The fact that he got elected as a Republican doesn't mean he is one.
He does it because Faux News encourages him to do it by claiming all media lies except for Faux News.
They are just as implicit as Trump himself.
There is a purpose for using "figurative" language. It is to color or amplify the subject - keep it from being boring. Literal language means exactly what it says.
Slam dunk in basketball is literal vs slam dunk in making a speech that successfully addresses an issue.
kicking a person when they are down is real if a person is lying down and you actually kick them. It is figurative when you say something negative to a person who is already depressed or feeling badly.
When a person speaks, we must determine is it a) literal or figurative. Are we able to do that?
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WATCH: CNN's Chris Cuomo invites GOP lawmaker to body slam him http://hill.cm/d5uQIX1
This is figurative language. Christ Cuomo was going to "rule" or win the debate. This was not threat of physical violence.
To be honest I get a bit bored by Trump
We know he is a modern fascist. He is against freedom of press and promoted the term fake news. The only "real news" is the news that shows the government in a positive light. In other words Trump promotes government dictated news. Things done by dictatorships.
Even if a journalist is tortured and murdered by Saudië Arabia he puts question marks if it really happened.
Trump is not for freedom of speech. Freedom of speech includes all news. (including so called "fake news") And Trump defending a person who hits a reporter can't be defended no matter which party you support. Image Obama defending a senator hitting a FOX news reporter. Nobody would accept that. So why accept it from Trump?
Are we surprised?
Every time I watch this guy talk it’s like watching a very unfunny comedian do crappy standup but instead of getting booed off the stage people are cheering. It’s weird. It’s like watching a real life episode of Black Mirror.
Not surprised, but it's a scary turn for the worse.
This is the same President who seems OK with the Saudis killing a journalist because he makes money from the Saudis.
He is now giving another green light for violence against anyone he sees as his enemy. And his supporters love it.
Are you saying it was okay for Gianforte to do it because others do it? Is that your justification?
Are you calling it a "nothing burger" because Gianforte apologized? If it had been you that got 'body slammed' to the ground, would it still be a "nothing burger" if an apology was offered afterwards?
I can agree that if it happened to me, and a sincere apology was offered, I would also forgive the guy, but that certainly doesn't make the incident, or the mindset that the thought it was an okay reaction could even occur a "nothing burger."
The topic is not the Congressman body slamming the reporter. That's history. It about people saying idiotic things because President Donald Trump told a story about it. THAT is the nothing burger.
A true nothing burger is zealots defending a President who advocates violence.
You are right Readmikenow, the topic is about Pres. Trump's comments. But, the topic of his comments was the body-slamming of a reporter.
So, taking it in steps, wouldn't the acceptance or rejection of the okayness' of Gianforte's actions be a part of acceptance or rejection of the President's comments?
Sure he was just telling a funny story, but do you deny he was telling it as an endorsement of the action? Something like "... that's my kinda guy...?"
Are you saying the topic the president was referring to was a "nothing burger?" Or that he appeared to endorse the action is the "nothing burger?"
Without intending sarcasm, I have the thought that you see this as just 'good ol' boys' talk - because the subject of the talk isn't serious. Which comes back to my original comment. Would you think it serious if it happened to you?
"do you deny he was telling it as an endorsement of the action?"
It was about the people of Montana electing a Congressman who body slammed a reporter. Have you ever been to Montana? Great place, but I can see how that wouldn't bother the people in Montana.
Conveniently ignoring Trump's praises for the guy and his violent act?
"Any guy that can do a body-slam, he’s my kind of guy... He's my guy. (Appaluding him) I shouldn’t say this. (Looking at Gianforte) There’s nothing to be embarrassed about.”
"Nah, he's a great guy. A tough cookie."
That's right. He's my kind of guy. The Congressman didn't make excuses for what he did, he owned up to it. He paid money to a charity, served his sentence after being convicted and wrote a public apology letter to the reporter. He was a man about it. He didn't blame it on anyone. He took responsibility for his actions. Oh, if only liberals would follow the Congressman's example and take responsibility for their acts of violence against Trump supporters. That would require a level of maturity that doesn't exist on the left.
Isn't it strange that you can post a video of Trump applauding with a cheering audience about the assault and still get someone defending him?
Maybe strange isn't the right word. Scary is more accurate.
I think you could post a video of him drop-kicking a puppy into the sun and some people would still defend him. Something about how not kicking animals into a ball of fire is too PC, probably.
No, how it works with the left is a member of NOW would come out and claim that 40 years ago now President Donald Trump drop kicked a puppy into the sun. The liberal media would go crazy. It would be reported as fact. The NOW member would not remember where it happened, when it happened, who was there, nobody who she claims saw it at the time would back up her story, but it would be believed as fact. THAT is how the liberals handle things.
Sure, that could probably happen too. But that’s not in direct conflict with my point. Some people will use any excuse to demonize Trump without question and some people will defend him without question because some people have become so polarized that they can’t be objective in any situation that involves him. Either he can do no right or he can do no wrong and that kind of mentality is dangerous regardless of which direction it’s coming from.
Okay...you left me with no argument. What you said is true. I would like to add that most of the bullying does come from the left. I don't see this situation changing any time soon.
I think there’s a direct correlation to whoever is in power. We’re under a liberal government up here and guess who the most vocal dickheads are? Conservatives.
Just a theory, of course. This level of political division and outrage mixed with social media is still pretty fresh.
Someone needs a mirror. "So, ho hum, is this all you have to get upset about? I'm thinking someone needs to get treatment for their TDS."
If you want a civil discussion about topics, I'm happy to oblige.
LOL. See, there you go, thinking that way proves Trump opponents encourage violence and Trump does not.
Gianforte was charged with misdemeanor assault, according to the Gallatin County Sheriff's Office.
"Following multiple interviews and an investigation by the Gallatin County Sheriff's Office, it was determined there was probable cause to issue a citation to Greg Gianforte for misdemeanor assault," the sheriff's office said in a statement on its website on May 24, 2017.
The statement added that the "nature of the injuries did not meet the statutory elements of felony assault."
The Associated Press reported that Gianforte pleaded guilty in June 2017, paid a $385 fine, completed 40 hours of community service, 20 hours of anger management training, wrote an apology letter and donated $50,000 to the Committee to Protect Journalists.
It is LONG PAST time that the media began having to account for the amount of incredible Trump bias and hate that they ALONE have actually brought to the table . Violence is wrong but maybe the media should stop blocking the sidewalks , sticking cameras down people's throats and asking such provocative questions .
When you weaponize" free speech " it can injure on both ends .
So will the left ever speak to the percentages of who speaks the loudest to and of violence at this time ? Obviously the left - yet they condemn Trump for returning it ? Kind of lame I'd say.
So GA and Promisem are now part of "the left"?
This is exciting news! When did this happen?
That's it ! Blow it all out of proportion and yet conveniently forget all the mainstream media rhetoric and incited violence comes from the left ?
Suuuuuuuure we believe you !
I'd still like to see someone on the left explain the majority of violence incited by leftists ..........someone ,......anyone ?
Where is the outrage from the left?
Kamala Harris Jokes about Killing Trump, Pence, Sessions
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/kam … -sessions/
Her actual comment, clearly a joke and not praising someone found guilty for committing a violent act:
“Does one of us have to come out alive?” from sharing an elevator.
It's right there in the article. She said absolutely nothing about killing them.
Your comprehension of the connotations and denotation of words and phrases is suspect.
And yet you would rather attack me personally (as usual) than respond to the facts in my comment, which did not attack you personally.
Odd from someone who complains about left-wing bullies.
That is not an attack. It is an observation based on what you have written.
"Her actual comment, clearly a joke and not praising someone found guilty for committing a violent act"
Trump's comment was more about how the people in Montana still elected him.
Again, your comments and most comments about this incident are not objective. They are agenda driven.
There is no doubt that the left incites and advocates violence by their continuing silence here , for one , except in relating to something stupid that Trump says. Every day now a cop is killed somewhere in America , We all know which president was responsible for that .
The political memory of the left grows shorter and shorter .
Like it or not , If anyone right now has the right to be disrespectful to the news media ; It is Trump . So you or the news media don't like him , that gave the media NO RIGHT whatsoever to spill the ink jug on the desk to get even for his simply winning the election .
All the left , including the leftist media , has done since before the inauguration is disrespect not only Trump BUT the office of the presidency and so too representative government . It was all a set up for a Hillary win and Hillary in the eye's of the left and the news media was the victor and cheated from her coronation by Trump .
Time to move on , if not for the left then for the leftist media too .
Because Trump joked about an incident of "body slamming " it doesn't mean he's calling for violence against journalists or anyone , he admires the nature of the beast perhaps in his joking , while liberals tend towards the "clutching their pearls " about such rhetoric they also ignore TOTALLY that the majority of such rhetoric is from their side and NOT against it.
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