Just a simple question.
Taking a pulse of hubbers here...
Given all that we know about Nancy Pelosi...her past reign as Speaker of the House during the Obama years...
And now again under Trump, do you think she is a capable legislator?
Yes and no and why?
Let's just see how long Republicans cheer her on, Jack!
When Trump's impeachment proceedings begin they'll be shaking in their boots.
Bring it on...
I wish the Democrats keep that up and go for impeachment...
It would be the biggest mistake in their strategy.
They should learn a lesson from the Clinton impeachment.
Even though the evidence was substantial, Clinton was aquited by the Senate. It would be the same with Trump.
However, the TDS just can’t help themselves.
I'm more curious what you think about Trump leaking Pelosi's travel plans and making her an assassination target for terrorists.
Is that what you think? Are a conspiracy fear monger now?
She got what she deserved.
She has learned nothing in the past two years.
She initiated this attack by sending letter to Trump postponing the State of the Union addresss... did she not?
And we all know, when you attack Trump, he hits back twice as hard?
So, it is so predictable that Trump would counter attack within his power to take her trip away...
There is no intelligence breach. She is not going is she?
It's not what I think. It's what I read. Various news sources reported that Trump leaked her travel plans.
She cancelled obviously because Trump breached major security protocols.
By your response, it sounds like you think Trump had a right to violate security procedures and put her in harm's way.
Ho hum, how boring. I imagine you could have read in as many new sources Peosi made the allegation...provided no proof...if you comprehend that concept. President and Donald Trump and the White house deny her allegation.
Accusations without proof is getting boring. It is the only thing the left has going for them. It's entertaining, but it is also making the left look pretty sad.
Ah, so you think violating security protocol and putting members of Congress at risk is OK. Got it.
"The White House said other parties must have leaked the information, suggesting it was becoming widely known."
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4260 … fghanistan
Oh, so you believe in believing accusations without proof? Is that it? No proof is necessary for you to believe an accusation is true? Is that what you're telling me? Proof means nothing to you.
Yes I do. She belongs in DC doing her job and working and negotiating to reopen our government. It is not business as usual.
What media you are reading? It is telling that you focus on the security question, when a bigger stake is at hand.
If I was Trump, I would insist she and other congressional leaders stay in one large room until this impasses is resolved.
She's capable to help legislate for a leftist type agenda. It's actually good, as I see it, that the Dems don't have a Cortez type of Speaker heading the House.
"Laughter is the best medicine...
It is a shame how one person can cause so much turmoil..."
Yes, this is a hilarious statement coming from a supporter of the Chaos President.
The chaos is coming from the Democrats.
Explain to me why they supported a fence or wall a few years back but now they refuse to support Trump’s wall?
What has changed?
Explain why they won’t fund it when they spend much more money on everything else under the sun?
If I was Trump, I would call her out.
I would tell Nancy, I will raise taxes to pay for the wall and Nancy, there is never a tax raise you didn’t like...
More over, Nancy and the Democrats are on the wrong side of this issue...
With every new caravan that comes to our border, a new crisis will appear...
What will they do?
Let them have their increasingly short time to enjoy these little memes as they face the fact they voted for a criminal for president. Their credibility is shot as far as their political views are concerned. Anyone who voted for the cretin should have their voting rights withdrawn pronto.
Wow...are you sure you are not having a flashback to Bill Clinton?
Look how popular he is now with the Democratic party...
With Trump, the more you push him, the stronger he gets.
When will you learn?
If you're wrong about Trump's guilt, will you admit it, Jack? And not ever give anyone else political advice again? You deserve such if you're wrong!
I am not wrong and the investigation is a sham and the FBI and DOJ are out of control...any 5th grader can see what is going on. Why can’t you?
If I am proven right, would you apologize to Trump?
I doubt it. You TDS is blinding you and cloudy your judgement.
If I am wrong, I will apologize and I will stop giving my political opinion on HubPages. You can have my word on it.
How is an investigation with 31 indictments a sham?
Geeze...know what a process crime is? Waiting to see you show me all the indictments for collusion. Waiting and waiting and waiting.....I think that is all I will be doing.
That has nothing to do with my comment. The investigation, as many of us have said many times before, is not just about collusion.
Are you denying there have been 31 indictments? Or is this an "accusation without proof"?
Are you denying there were no indictments for collusion? Is this it? You deny there have been no indictments for collusion from the Mueller investigation? Is that what you're telling me? You believe there were indictments for collusion?
Of course I'm not denying anything about indictments for collusion. I prefer to stick to facts rather than Sean Hannity talking points.
Now would you care to answer my question since I answered yours?
Again, how is an investigation with 31 indictments a sham?
Good luck getting a concise answer, Scott!! He's better at posting someone else's memes like Onus. Not too many original thoughts from those guys.
It is a sham because these 31 indictments have nothing to do with Russian collusion. Did they?
Yes people commited crimes and when the FBI get on their case, they can find all kinds of misdeeds...
Let me ask you this, suppose the FBI start an investigation on you. Would they be able to come up with some charges that will stick?
Committing tax fraud for example? Or lying under interrogation...
This is the oldest trick in the book.
I am surprised you are falling for it lock stock and barrow.
Trump is no Russian agent, I would stake my life on that statement.
Further more, when this whole episode ends, and it will, I want the whole FBI and DOJ investigated. They have gone rougue on the American people under Barack Obama...
Gee Jack, getting a little distraught aren't you? Do you think Mueller needs to charge your idol with petty crimes? If so you are sadly mistaken. He's already got him on his dealings with the two women he paid off so why go for lesser crimes? If the report of him telling Cohen to commit perjury before Congress is true, he may be the first president indicted while in office despite Justice Department policy.
And staking your life on something you cannot be completely sure of shows how little you can be believed about anything of import.
I am not worried at all.
Mueller has nothing on Trump and he will have nothing on Trump...
The payout to the women have nothing to do with Russia collusion.
It is legal and a private matter.
Try to impeach him on that?
Lying about campaign finances is what Cohen is already convicted of, Jack. You don't seem to understand basic law if you think Trump isn't already guilty of a crime. You also have AMI given immunity for covering up, not only the payoffs to the women, but burying those stories and others to help Trump be elected.
This beside the other 17 investigations going on into Donnie's foundation, business deals, and his family involvement. So far, his cronies are paying the price for his transgressions, but his time is coming.
No collusion. It was a witch hunt concocted by the FBI and DOJ...to hide the crimes of Hillary and the DNC...
I am not saying there were no wrong doings and crimes commited by individuals associated with the Trump campaign. Anyone, under the scruitiny of the FBI will come up with some crime...
Just that there were no Russian collusion with respect to the 2016 election. Prove me wrong or better yet, let Mueller make his case after 2 years of investigation.
You sound just like Hannity and your hero Rush, Jack. It's gone from no collusion at all to, just because his campaign cronies did so doesn't mean Trump did. Next it will be some other excuse or lie and you swallow them all like something tasty.
I'll make a deal with you , Jack. If I'm wrong about Trump, I won't give any more opinions on political views here and if your wrong you agree to do the same. Deal?
Jack, the Democratic fiasco is a circus of sorts-(singing bring in the clowns, bring in the clowns). Trump is no pushover- he has the New York in him.
Yes with her, and Cortez pushing socialism, and 30 people running for 2020, this show is just about as good as it gets.
Nancy, you are the gift that keeps on giving...
You have met your match and that person is Trump.
I think the speaker of the house needs to stay in Washington DC and work out a budget deal. She gets taxpayer money, it's time she and the Democrats in congress start doing their job.
She was in DC and did work out a bipartisan deal with Republicans along with other Democrats. Trump rejected it.
Republican senators like Lindsay Graham also have made repeated attempts to offer a bipartisan deal to Trump, and he has rejected them all.
The radical right has no clue about facts and real news other than what they get from Fox News, the NRA and Russian propaganda sites.
What about the coward McConnell, Mike? He's not doing his job. He's doing Trump's bidding.
She might have met her match. It'll be interesting to see who blinks. This is exciting political upheaval.
You're simply wrong jackclee: Bozo Trump has according to Michael Cohen, conspired to influence an election which is a federal crime punishable by imprisonment and he's now an un-indicted co-conspirator according to many legal experts: Michael Cohen said this under oath and it's backed up by at least another witness: WHY do you think Bozo is in perpetual "Twitter Rant" mode ??
Many other exhibit of evidence to potential criminal acts have been recorded and it's too bad for Donald that they are all documented on his little twitter pages and on film: The only positive for his last remaining followers which is a rapidly dwindling number of radicals, is the fact that he can't RESIGN for if he does, he'd be immediately indicted:
As for Nancy "Powerhouse" Pelosi, the greatest speaker in history? She was very instrumental in saving our auto industry, saving our economy and millions of jobs from the republican ineptitude of George W. Bush and securing health insurance for tens of millions of Americans which Bozo Trump has been trying desperately to sabotage since day one of his nightmarish era which must END soon:
Pelosi appears to be unable to make a coherent statement, many times. She can't think of simple words, stumbles harshly in presentation and is one of the most ineffectual speakers I think are currently in politics.
I had wondered about this, but I just heard she's an alcoholic so that may explain some of her more bizarre appearances.
Compared to Trump, she's a breath of fresh air. Or do you think he's a very coherent speaker? If so, have a hamburder on me!
Pelosi isn't an alcoholic. Where did you get this "conspiraformation" from? Please tell us. While I may not like Ms. Pelosi, to believe rumors that she is an alcoholic is beyond ad hominem.
Quite a few sites, coupled with the recent fact disclosed about the expenses incurred for booze and food on her trips.
But, I didn't say it was true. I said I heard it and it would explain her inability to speak coherently. It could be dementia. She is a dinosaur.
Hey, Randy, Pretty Panther, Jake and Promisem.Thank you for your sane comments. As all you know you can't argue with people who don't know the difference between right and wrong.
She's an idiot, which is why I'm glad she represents liberalism.
Nancy Pelosi just owned the shut down. She is the only one standing in the way of a wall, funding for it, and the pasing of the budget.
She made this her last stand. She is willing to shut down the state of the union address. Who does she think she is? The President?
Hostage taking is a term many used to describe this shut down. It is clear to every thinking person, left, right or center...she is the problem.
When the GOP was in charge, they gave President Obama everything he wanted. He was the President. There was never a budget they did not pass. Now, it is quite a different story...isn’t it?
She wants the government open before negotiating...
Once it does, there is no reason to negotiate.
If I was Trump, I would just keep the govenment closed. It is on her...
It's just another power play. Trump, Pelosi and Schumer are in a stare off. We'll see who wins.
So where is the Supreme court on this? Aren’t they the third leg of our government? Why are no judges speaking out? Is it Constitutional for a Speaker of the House to stop an agenda that American people wanted for many years and she even voted on a few years earlier?
Where is rhe judicial ruling on this? These seems to be hiding under their bench.
They were so quick to weigh in on the Travel ban last year...
This is exactly what their job is. When the two other branches are at a dead lock, you need another party to step in and arbitrate...
I say, let Trump declear an National Emergency...
Get the people back to their jobs...
Build that wall in the name of national security...
And let Nancy cry to the courts...
Then they would have to get involved.
jackclee, for someone that is constantly fussing about folks who lack even a basic understanding of "Civics 101," this comment makes it look like you should revisit your own article on the subject.
Really? What am I getting wrong here?
The courts seems to get invoved with all kinds of stuff...that is outside of the Constitution in recent days...
Why are they exempt?
The Constitution is a living document? No?
Which is it to you?
In case you don’t realize it, we are facing a Constitutional crisis.
A high ranking member of Congress is defying the President the ability to communicate to the American people...it is unprecedented as far as I can remember.
She has no respect for the office and believes in her heart that Trump is illegitimate.
Where do you go from here?
Mutiny on the Bounty comes to mind.
Well, since you asked. It is mostly your questions that indicate the need for a Civics refresher course.
"So where is the Supreme court on this? Aren’t they the third leg of our government? "
In your context, "leg" may not be synonymous with "branch."
"Why are no judges speaking out? Is it Constitutional for a Speaker of the House to stop an agenda that American people wanted"
This also answered by the above quote; the "judges," (still speaking of SCOTUS, right?), are not directed to "speak out" on any issue that isn't placed before them.
But I had to look elsewhere for more detailed Civics and the Judicial branch information, (the above was the extent of Judicial branch information in the American Civics 101 article).
And I found this:
Then there was this:
"Where is rhe judicial ruling on this? These seems to be hiding under their bench.
They were so quick to weigh in on the Travel ban last year..."
I think you are mixing-up your courts jackclee. It was Federal courts, (judges), that were "quick to act" on the travel ban. SCOTUS didn't act at all until the case was presented to them, and then they found in favor of the administration.
"This is exactly what their job is. When the two other branches are at a dead lock, you need another party to step in and arbitrate..."
Once more your American Civics 101 answers this question:
"We need a Supreme Court decision on who has the responsibility to control immigration to our country. The President or Congress?."
This is an easy one jackclee. You know that Article 2 of the Constitution answers this for you, in broad terms. And relating specifically to controlling immigration, it is Article 1 Section 8, (and later SCOTUS decisions), that answers your question - Congress has the Federal power to control immigration.
"The Constitution is a living document? No? "
That is a matter of opinion, isn't it? I say no. Can you prove me wrong?
"In case you don’t realize it, we are facing a Constitutional crisis. "
Another opinion. And again I say no. Both the Constitution and SCOTUS are pretty clear regarding this responsibility. Can you prove me wrong?
"A high ranking member of Congress is defying the President the ability to communicate to the American people "
By "defying" do you mean denying? Or obstructing? Either way, All I see is her saying he can't do it in the House she controls. Pres. Trump is still free to communicate with the American people in a number of other locations.
But, you might be right about Pelosi believing in her heart that Trump is illegitimate.
WoW, Nancy "Powerhouse" Pelosi, Righteous Champion of HealthCARE for ALL, Women's Rights and RAISING the Minimum Wage for ALL American Workers has sure sent a lightning-bolt of deep fear up and down the weak little spines of the few remaining Alt Right Nationalists around here:
If you're a white nationalist racist who appeases our enemies in public like Bozo Trump who is desperately trying to execute an agenda Vladimir Putin is uncontrollably excited about, an agenda which includes DECONSTRUCTING the Foundation of the USA, you absolutely should be FRIGHTENED to Death of Nancy P because she will do whatever is congressionally necessary to HALT the Russian Republican Advance:
Nancy stopped Bozo Trump from polluting our House of Representatives with his anticipated "Circus Freak SHOW of Lies and Deception" otherwise known as his "State of the Union Address" which he would have given in the FACE of Millions of Americans he has placed in financial peril with his insane self serving government shut-down, and she'll continue to FIGHT Mightily for America against its foes either abroad or embedded:
WoW, Nancy Pelosi, worker of unrighteousness, Champion of Coercion, Enabler of Theft and advocate for the Destruction of American Workers' jobs sure sent a bolt of foolishness into the already screwed up workings of the federal government.
What are you even talking about Hxprof? Nancy "POWERHOUSE" Pelosi has a documented history of being instrumental in providing essential HealthCARE to tens of millions of Americans, I know in the perverse Fox News Universe that's a bad thing, but here in the normal world, for the vast majority of Americans it was a great victory for we the people:
Nancy Pelosi has a documented history of forcing many Americans to give up their old policies only to buy more expensive ones with huge deductibles.
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