Right Wing Talk vs Left Wing Talk

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   Trump tells it like it is. He is connected to reality. He is not playing Washington games. He cares about the Nation.
   
   The swamp is status quo and they want the illegals flowing in.
   How come? Do they care more about the their own power and the votes that are flowing in with them than the what is beneficial to the nation?
   
   What is beneficial to the nation is border control ... since Mexico has so many problems that they can't fix. (Maybe Mexico needs a Donald Trump!!!!)
   
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      MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Laugh I thought I'd die
      I thought my pants would never dry

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         why?

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Trump tells it like it is.  Well, maybe he exaggerates.

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            MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            It was your first paragraph that had me laughing so hard. Trump is a narcissist who cares for nothing but himself.
            
            Illegals can't vote, so why do so many people keep saying the Dems want illegals flowing in to get their votes? To clarify matters, I don't want illegals either, but why are the Repubs so against them when THEY hire so many of them? Californians claim that their fruit rots in the field because U.S. citizens won't pick fruit, yet legal aliens say the illegals take their jobs in construction and leave them jobless. So who is right? Who benefits? Both?
            
            Is it true that American citizens won't work in menial jobs anymore? Years ago in my small hometown, recent high school and college graduates used to catch chickens for a big chicken processor in my town until they could find "real" jobs. Do they not do this anymore? I guess not, they depend on mommy and daddy to support them until they can find a job making $50,000 a year. Meanwhile business has to hire illegal aliens to do the dirty work.
            
            Now do you see why I'm laughing?

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Why do you think Trump is a narcissist? To me, and others, it appears he wants to help the nation. To others, just himself.
                  
               In what way is he benefiting from his actions and his role as President of The United States?
               
               Do you know? I would love to hear! (read)

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Ditto!

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      crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      He tells it like it is? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
      
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … a62645209c

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   I'll go.
   
   Is it the money? check it out:
   
   Scaled down, the amount Trump is asking for, compared to what is spent each year on the budget, is equal to three thousand out of fifty thousand, (which would leave forty seven thousand for welfare programs.) The actual amount spent each year, is four trillion. Trump is asking for five billion. Out of four trillion, five billion is equivalent to three thousand out of fifty thousand.
   
   He says that once the wall is up, it will save money due to 90% less border crossings.
   
   A 90% reduction in border crossings would definitely equate to less crime and flagrant law breaking: less drugs, less gangs, less illegal aliens who disrespect the country, who use and abuse the medical and educational systems, who send money out of the country, who have anchor babies for free and the resultant chain migration and the resultant ENDLESS democratic votes.
   
   This is why Nancy and Chuck and the media continue to LIE and say it a not a crisis.
      ... or that it is an imaginary crisis.
   
   Are sanctuary cities imaginary?
   
   Are the high crime rates of illegal aliens imaginary?
   
   Is human trafficking imaginary?
   
   Is drug trafficking Imaginary?
   
   The only thing that is not imaginary are the LIES that are being spread by the Left.

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      MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      "The only thing that is not imaginary are the LIES that are being spread by the Left."
      
      Now that is a total untrue statement. In fact, it is one of Trump's lies. Why is everyone so upset over the border when Russia has a new "indestructible" missile that can wipe out cities in the U.S. We may not be here to worry about the border.
      
      www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/putin-new-russia-missile...

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   Furthermore, the law to build the wall was put into place in the late 90's under Clinton, (when the Republicans were the majority in both houses for the first time in fifty years.)
   
   700 miles of wall are already completed, (but, by now, in dire need of repair ...)  The project is already a work in progress.
   
   Obama and the Democrats all agreed that building a wall was necessary at one time, but now that Trump wants to complete it, where are they?
   
   Were they merely lying at the time to get re-elected????
   
   OR What?
   
   "Democrats haven't always had such a hard position on the border wall. Over the past decade, Democrats have supported billions of dollars in funding for physical barriers. In 2006, the Secure Fence Act passed with bipartisan support requiring the construction of physical barriers along 700 miles of the nearly 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border. Sixty-four Democrats voted the measure in the House and 26 in the Senate."
   FROM
   https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/2006 … order-wall

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   Furthermore, The Democrats in Congress passed an aide package appropriating more than ten billion dollars to Southern Mexico, Central America, to help with their economies
   
   What will happen to that $10,000,000,000? Will it help the economies of these countries or end up in the hands of their corrupt leaders?
   
   Thanks guys. What about US?

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      "You know that's an excellent idea... tell Mexico one of the conditions of getting the money is that 5 billion of it has to be spent on a wall."
      
      comment from the article:
      https://www.breitbart.com/national-secu … rn-mexico/

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I have a better idea, just keep the five billion we need to build the wall.
         

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         MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Breitbart isn't considered a reliable source, you know.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   let/s build it!

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   "If we build a powerful and fully designed see-through steel barrier on our southern border, the crime rate and drug problem in our country would be quickly and greatly reduced. Some say it could be cut in half.” TRUMP
   
   "Trump’s statement that a border wall would cut the nation’s crime rate — and “drug problem” — in half is simply laughable. There is no evidence to suggest that is the case. Most undocumented immigrants do not illegally cross the southern border, undocumented immigrants do not commit crimes at a rate higher than U.S. citizens, and drugs flow through the border mostly through legal crossing points."
   FROM Randy's link
   https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … a62645209c
   
   ... and where's the evidence to support this?

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   I could say, "The Left is not connected to reality."
   
   
   ... but, regarding this issue, what IS reality? 

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   RJ Schwartzposted 5 years ago

   The wall is symbolic of the broken system both Parties have allowed to fester - Trump has asked for comprehensive immigration reform, but none of the DC elites want it because their contributors say no.  Money talks...

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      Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      This is astute. I always suspected that the "wall" is just a symbol for public consumption. The reality is that the comprehensive solution is NOT really what is wanted by either side for their own reasons.
      
      If the will really existed to solve the problem, we would be employing 21st century technology instead of searching through scrolls from the Middle Ages.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         walls are probably cheaper as fences. They are more effective than technological inventions which always GLITCH (or not, I don't know)
         
         
         "But US Border Patrol agents have all sorts of high-tech surveillance equipment to help them, from motion-sensor cameras to drones to tethered aerostat balloons that fly high over the border and provide a 360-degree view of the border 24/7.
         “There's no doubt that fencing is a deterrent, but it's just part of a larger, more holistic approach that Homeland Security takes toward border security,” Moore said."
         
         https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/12 … cnnphotos/

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            Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I don't know, Kathryn, this entire thing is just promoting xenophobia, more of the choicest red meat for the Trump supporter/Rightwinger.
            
            The vast majority of illegals have just overstayed their visas and the problem based on the number of these migrants have been in the declined over the last few years.
            
            Also, as far as I am concerned, I won't take any right wing initiative like this seriously until greater awareness and punishment is doled out to those that are hiring the undocumented as labor.
            
            Building a 2000 mile wall between US and Mexico? The once established goal of putting a man on the moon, from hindsight, seemed more palatable.
            
            By the way, the CNN( your link) story is well documented and quite interesting.
            
            
            
            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor … 125005002/

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I regard putting a man on the moon pretty amazing. But yeah, if we can put a man on the moon, we can establish/secure a border, for heaven's sake.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Comprehensive immigration reform:
      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar … rm/576457/

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

   and then there's the actual price of the fence or wall or whatever it ends up being. (or not)
   
   https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6024 … rder-wall/

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Whatever Kath, just breaking in to keep you from talking to yourself on this thread. No need to thank me.... 

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I know Democrats are very kind people.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    its not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. I think we should go ahead and build away. What could it hurt????
    
    
    WHAT COIULD IT HURT?

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    Its not the money. Its something else. What?
    
    Furthermore stopping Trump from implementing what
    his voters wanted, the majority, is injustice, if you ask me, which no one....
    
    While meanwhile, the Nation is going to hell from a partial govt. shutdown.
    
      ... we have mom and dad arguing and the family is suffering,
    big time.
    
    One of them has to yield. It should be HER.

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       MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       "Furthermore stopping Trump from implementing what
       his voters wanted, the majority, is injustice, if you ask me, which no one...."
       
       A bigger injustice was the Russian interference causing Trump's election by the electoral college (Hillary got the popular vote, remember) and stopping Hillary from becoming President. In my opinion, our unduly elected president doesn't have the right to push his promises to his minority supporters on the majority of us.
       
       Why should it be "her"? The Democrats have already placed two proposals which Trump rejected, and Trump bragged to her and Shumer that he would shut down the government and be proud to own the shutdown. He told them personally in front of the nation's TV viewers that they wouldn't be responsible. Are you saying he was a liar?

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          They are responsible for him having to saying that.

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             PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             I don't know whether to LOL or groan. Apparently, you believe Trump is not responsible for the words he utters and somehow the Dems control his mind and vocal cords.
             
             Geez Loueeze.

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                Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                ... what is wrong with agreeing to continue building the border.
                
                they were all for it in the past ... what happened?
                
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJY4yHeYSjw

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    Thank God for the electoral college.
    
    ... who wants Hillary Clinton, the real Russian collusionist.
    
    ???????
    
    
      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassl … ranium-one

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    Build the wall ... what could it hurt?

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       PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Can you tell me why Trump didn't take a stand on building the wall when Republicans controlled both the House and Senate? Why should the Democrats, whose constituents don't want a wall, agree to it when he couldn't even get Republicans to agree to it?

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          They are the same as the Dems.
          They hate trump. All he's got is the people.

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             PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             Most of "the people" don't want the wall. About 70% of "the people" do not think the wall is worth shutting down the government .
             
             Are you sure he's got "the people"?

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                Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                At this point he's barely got a quarter of "the people" behind him and it's falling rapidly, Pretty.

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                   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                   where is your proof of facts and figures?

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    We People will vote them all out, if we know whats good for us.
    Meanwhile, the people need to support their president more vocally
    WAY MORE VOCALLY!!!!

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    Why don't Democrats want to close the border?
    
    Is it the price?
    Is it that they want modern technologies rather than a physical barrier?
    Is it because the border is good enough?
    Is it because not enough bad people are coming through?
    Is it because there are good people coming through?

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       Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Because it's a waste of money, Kath! We already have fences or walls at the most heavily impacted areas of the border. It's simply a personal thing with Trump because he promised those of you who believe in him he'd save you from a non-existent menace.  You bought it and have got to realize it's not needed.
       
       The bad folks and drugs are coming through legal points of entry and you're ignoring this fact. What is it you don't understand?

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p81FTsW6TyQ

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       Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Why don't you answer questions posed to you, Kathryn? Anyone can post memes and videos produced by people they don't know at all. Let's see what YOU really know!

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I have posted a video of President Trump taking questions about various current issues with CNN. It was published 1/4/19. In this video, President Trump shows that he is very wise, positive and confident. If you watch the video, you will be hard-pressed to comprehend how anyone can be against him.
          
          So, get back to ME after you have seen it.
          
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p81FTsW6TyQ

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    Here's another good/important one too see. Chuck and Nancy meet with Donald Trump in the White House.
    
    Here is where Trump should have said:
    What do YOU GUYS want as far as Border Security?
    
    Trump did not give them a chance to reveal to the cameras what type of wall or security they have in mind, yet Chuck seemed ready to explain it.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wm-NtMkqz8

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       Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Whatever, just talk to yourself since you're incapable of answering questions posed to you.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          oh, sorry you mean this question:
          
          Q. "Are you sure he's got "the people"?"
          A. YES.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          if you are so indolent you can't even watch Donal Trump speak, well, I guess its better to talk to myself than you.
          
          so, sweet dreams, Randy.

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             Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             Sorry Kat, it's not my bedtime yet, and I've been listening to Donnie for decades and it doesn't get any more disgusting than it ever has been. Of course, those not familiar with his many past transgressions buy into his bull$hit. And that apparently would include you.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years ago

    President Trump is to be respected. He was duly elected by the process put into place. I believe this president cares about the security of our nation and I believe we should back him.
    
    Thank you.

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