What do you think of Trump's goal of building a wall along the border?

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   Marcy Goodfleischposted 8 years ago

   What do you think of Trump's goal of building a wall along the border?
   
   President Trump officially announced plans to build a wall along the border with Mexico. Do we need it? Is it discriminatory? What do you think about it?

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   jackclee lmposted 8 years ago

   I applaud him for following up on his promise. He is doing what he was elected to do. Remember, good fences make good neighbors.
   We are a country with laws and borders and a common culture and a common language. Without a wall or a fence, it would mean the border is open. Anyone could come here... No country today has an open border policy. You will loose your country's identity.
   We have a legal immigration policy that admits over 1 million people a year. They come from all over the world and they come here with skills that we can use. They are check for diseases. They are vetted so they have no terrorist ties. They are checked to see if they have criminal history...
   Those are all common sense procedures.
   The people that want to come here will also be assimilated to our way of life and our Constitution. That is how we preserve and protect our way of life.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lucky for him, he has no one to block him, as obama did. pretty much what trump wants, trump gets.

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      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It was not luck. Obama had a majority his first 2 years in office. He could have done so much instead he chose to bet on ACA. He lost and sadly America lost also...

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      aca is a crowning achievement! many americans gained healthcare and life-saving treatment....with zero support from the gop. 0. remember that when any votes come up now.

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      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You just made my argument. Yes ACA pasted with 0 GOP support? That is halve the population of this country. Are they all wrong? Or the law as proposed was flawed as it was shown to be and now needs to be replaced.

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years ago

   
   
   There are at least 3 reasons to finish the existing wall.
   1. Terrorists
   2. $20 billion of Illegal drugs every yr via the wall and the Mexican Drug Cartel.
   3. Enforce existing and future Immigration Laws.
   
   1. It only took a few terrorists to do a lot of damage in the US. President Obama's immigration circumvented the wall by bringing unvetted Muslim Immigrants directly into the US.
   2. These illegal drugs bring additional criminals and especially gangs to distribute and protect their contraband. The bigger problem is that the consumers for these illegal drugs are in the US. This also creates crimes by these users to pay for these drugs, and also increase the burden on the healthcare as the illegal drugs take effect with various known and unknown side effects. The US jails and prisons have over 2 million people in them. Many of them have something to do with these illegal drugs. Many of them are illegal aliens committing crimes in the US. They are not contributing to the US but they are very dangerous and causing direct and indirect drains on the Treasury.
   3. Illegal immigration brings in people that may have diseases that can spread throughout our country. They also discriminate the immigrants that try to come into the country legally, and so many of these immigrants are turned away because of quotas. That is not fair. These illegals contain some criminals and that adds crimes and burdens on law enforcement and our jails and prisons. These illegals also get freebies like education, welfare, hospitals and now in CA they can get driver's licenses. And how do we know that they are not voting in our elections, and that is dangerous because Mexicans and Latinos account for the largest group in CA.
   
   We have immigration laws but for 8 years pres Obama refused to enforce them. And he even went after states that were enforcing them.
   
   The point is that the liberals want the people to believe that it is UnAmerican to prevent these people from coming into this country. But it boils down to security period. And a wall across the border will certainly help our security.
   
   Mexico has not been able to handle the Mexican Drug Cartel and basically the Cartel owns the northern parts of Mexico. The Cartel uses the illegal aliens as a diversion to paralyze the Border Patrol by having them dealing with hundreds and thousands crossing into the US, while the Cartel does an end run for their drugs.
   
   Mexico keeps out their border neighbors like Guatemala.

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   Trihorusposted 8 years ago

   I think building that wall is impractical and not possible given the geological features of the landmass in the way. Additionally, Mexico has already said they won't be funding for the wall, And you must be aware about the debt.

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      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If a wall will not work, what is your solution to this problem? Assuming you think illegal immigration is a problem in our country.

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   lovemychrisposted 8 years ago

   i think its a horrible waste of money. and i heard an cia analyst say, "if he wants to spend 14 billion on security, i can think of better ways to spend it."
   and you may say, "well, he has to satisfy the people who put him in office"
   but, part of that was saying mexico will pay. mexico WILL NOT pay for that wall! and vincente fox says they will get out of nafta, they dont care. said them leaving nafta will hurt usa, not mexico.
   
   *swell job, potus*

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      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Regardless of who pays, the wall is a good idea and it makes for good neighbors. It has been tried else where and they work. It's funny how some will worry about our debt but said nothing when Obama spent 10 trillion last 8 years.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      regardless of who pays????? this from people who demand women dont even SPEAK about certain things with "your" money! and your opinion that it works is not the only opinion out there. plenty feel differently...that walls do not work. e. germany for 1

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      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Are you comparing our wall to the Berlin wall? Do you know why the Berlin wall came down? It was built to keep people in. That is why it failed. Our wall will be to keep people out and it works everywhere its been tried. Ie Israel, Saudia Arabia...

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   Ken Burgessposted 8 years ago

   Consider the Cost ... lets say it costs 30 Billion to build in total.'
   Once the wall is built lets say it cuts the amount of illegal aliens gaining entry into the country by half.
   Lets say that is 1 million illegals a year. The cost of harboring illegal immigrants in the United States is a staggering $121 billion a year -- an average of roughly $1,210 for every “native-headed” household in America -- according to a study conducted by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).
   I think that is woefully minimizing the costs, but for the sake of this exercise lets say that keeping those 1 million out saves America 1 Billion a year.  And that each year an additional 1 million is denied entry that would otherwise gain entry. So in 5 years the Wall has denied 5 million illegals that would otherwise be in our country.
   That saves the nation 5 Billion a year in support/social services every year, for many years to come.
   So essentially within 6 or 7 years the Wall will have paid for itself.
   The fact that it may slow the free travel of illegal drugs into our country, as well as dangerous terrorists, rapists, and other assorted folk who would like to commit violent crimes as often and repeatedly as they can, would also be doing us a service.
   I see nothing wrong with having border enforcement, Canada has pretty strict border controls, and I'd say in general that Americans are far less a risk to mass immigrate there.  Protecting our borders and sovereignty, is a good thing, despite it having been the exact opposite policy of the previous Admin.

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