The Democrats Launched a Coup Rather than an Impeachment.

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   The Minstrelposted 5 years ago

   The impeachment is a complete sham and its about to unravel. The Senate will allow Volker and others to testify openly about their connection to the so called illegal phone call between President Trump and the Ukrainian President. Adam Schiff has kept testimony before the house judiciary secret and behind closed doors. Why? He doesn't want the truth to be known. They know the impeachment is a complete sham and lie; therefore, they mounted a coup rather than an impeachment. They will fail. There is nothing legal about this impeachment. Everything is hidden. There is no bipartisan partnership between the Republicans and Democrats in this very solemn responsibility. Why? They know it is a complete lie. Everything will come into the light. Pelosi will lose her speakership. Schiff will be charged with treason. The Democrats will utterly fail. Their coup will fail.

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      That's simply the opinion of one of Trump's victims.

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         The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, its the opinion of millions.

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Not more than are against yours, no matter how you count them. Read 'em and weep, Trump fan. He's going down, rather quicker than what I expected. Watch the testimony the next week or so....

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               Ken Burgessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Wash, rinse, spin... pretty much what you have been commenting for 3 years now.
               
               "Read 'em and weep, Trump fan. He's going down, rather quicker than what I expected. "
               
               You should just cut and paste this in your replies to all things Trump related, it would make it easier for you.

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                  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Then clean off your AR-15 and march on Washington with other Trump supporters to stop the coup.

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            promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Many more millions than the shrinking number of Trump supporters think otherwise.
            
            Anyone who claims a "coup" as the result of a Constitutional process is trying to provoke violence.

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               wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               What constitutional crises would that be?  So far there are no articles of impeachment, just another long drawn out "investigation" starting up trying to find something, anything at all, to cause political harm to an opponent in an upcoming election process.

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                  Ken Burgessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  They want to investigate for impeachment, they just don't want to actually impeach... after all, that might lead to a whole bunch of skeletons coming out of the closet that could incriminate a lot more than Trump.

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                  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Where did I say anything about a Constitutional "crisis"?
                  
                  Please read my comments more carefully before disagreeing with something I didn't say.

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                     wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     "Anyone who claims a "coup" as the result of a Constitutional process is trying to provoke violence."
                     
                     I take it then that you disagree - that there is no "Constitutional Crises"?  Or at least not one in the Ukraine affair - forbidding the President to fulfill his oath and protect our borders from invasion is a completely separate matter.  Or is it, given that he has shuffled money around in a manner the Democrats would forbid?

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               Ken Burgessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               There has been no evidence, none, that he has lost any of his base.
               
               There-in lies the dilemma for the Democrats and the media, he has 90%+ approval of Republicans, and over 50% of those identifying as Independent or Libertarian.
               
               If anything, the constant efforts to remove him have cemented the fears of those who think Congress is corrupt and against the best interests of the American people, same for the sources of news like NYT and CNN which have lost all credibility with the majority of Americans.

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                  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Even Fox News is saying that more than 50% of America wants him impeached.
                  
                  https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/10/trump-a … -poll.html
                  
                  Otherwise, I'm not sure what recent polls you mean. The ones I have seen show 15% of Republicans and more than 50% of independents now want him out.

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      James A Watkinsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You are absolutely right. Perfectly put.

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         Ken Burgessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Its a tragedy really.
         
         When you consider the major economic (hopefully not turning into a WW scenario) confrontation we are in the early stages of with China for instance...
         
         In 2018 China printed/created the equivalent of 51 Trillion dollars and flooded the world economy (including up to half of that going into the U.S. Stock Market) with it.  Just so you understand the significance of that, the entire global economy/currency is about 50 Trillion dollars.
         
         Does our News talk about that? 
         
         Is American news raising the alarm of all that China has done in just the last year to cause the American economy to fail, and how it will likely do so just before the election?
         
         No, they are talking about how some NBA CEO pissed China off and used the incident as an excuse to ban the NBA from China.
         
         Do they talk of the 're-education camps' in China? Of course not, because most of our media is controlled by foreign sources and tries to keep Americans as ignorant about what is going on as possible... The only thing they want you focused on is what a villain Trump is, or something even more mind numbing and ignorant.

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      Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      "The impeachment is a complete sham and its about to unravel."
      
      It isn't and it's not.
      
      "...they mounted a coup rather than an impeachment"
      
      They didn't.
      
      "There is nothing legal about this impeachment"
      
      It's perfectly legal.
      
      "There is no bipartisan partnership between the Republicans and Democrats in this very solemn responsibility. Why?"
      
      Because most Republicans in Congress have abdicated their constitutional duty.
      
      "Their coup will fail"
      
      It's not a coup.
      
      Hope that clarifies things.

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         The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, your write-up clarifies nothing. It just clarifies your position: I hate Trump and that's that. Not real convincing.

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            Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            "Actually, your write-up clarifies nothing. It just clarifies your position: I hate Trump and that's that. Not real convincing."
            
            Bingo! It follows the same pattern as your comment, which is essentially: I hate the Democrats and that's that. In your own words "Not a convincing position". Get the point?

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               The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Not really. I was a Democrat for many years. The party has changed for the worse. The party of John F. Kennedy is long gone. What we have in its place are exreme leftists like AOC, Palestinian Marxist Tlaib, Sudanese terrorist Omar who cause moderates like Pelosi to trash sound wisdom for utter foolishness. I don't hate Democrats, but I do hate their agenda.

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                  Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Again, all that is just your personal view, which you are perfectly entitled to express, but I can simply give my opinions in return. Watch:
                  
                  "The party has changed for the worse."
                  
                  No it hasn't.
                  
                  "Palestinian Marxist Tlaib, Sudanese terrorist Omar"
                  
                  Tlaib isn't a Marxist. There is no evidence that demonstrates Omar is a terrorist (this one's a fact not an opinion).
                  
                  "I don't hate Democrats, but I do hate their agenda."
                  
                  I don't hate Republicans either, but I do hate their complete capitulation to the odious, oafish, sexist, racist, buffoon Donald Trump.
                  
                  So if all you want is to exchange opinions, fair enough, you now have mine. But don't give your opinion and expect me to take it as gospel. And don't just give your opinion, then when I do the same, suggest I've done something less than you. I have done exactly the same as you. The fact you think it's "Not real convincing" when I do it though, tells you something about what other people might be thinking when you do it. That's was the point.

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                     The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I am not expecting you to take my opinion as the gospel. Just as I don't take your opinion as the gospel. However, how has Donald Trump shown he is racist? What real proof do you have? However, you did prove my one point: you hate Donald Trump. This alone can cloud your reasoning process.

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                        Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        What real proof do you have?
                        
                        You said all this...
                        
                        
                        
                        ...without offering any proof. Why is it ok for you to offer your opinions without proof, but not ok for me to do the same? Are your opinions more important than mine? I told you, if you offer your opinion with no proof, I will do the same. No more, no less. If you think my opinions with no proof are not very convincing, again that tells you something about what people may think of your opinions with no proof. I hope you're getting the point.
                        
                        "However, you did prove my one point: you hate Donald Trump."
                        
                        And you proved my point, you hate Democrats like Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

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                           Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           The old "you hate" BS is simply that, Don. It's a last resort of the right, especially Hannity and Limbaugh aficionados. But then, it's all they have at this point. Cut "em some slack. They're hurting now... 

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      The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, if I would retitle this forum thread I would say the coup began three years ago right after the election.

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         promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         You also could retitle it, "Let's March on Washington and Kill Democrats", because that's what you are promoting with inflammatory talk about a coup.

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            The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            This is interesting. You have Maxinne Waters encouraging her supporters to harrass and confront Trump supporters in restaurants and other public spaces. Ted Cruz, Sarah Sanders, Mitch McConnel, Tucker Carlson, and people wearing MAGA hats have been harrassed and even physically attacked by the left. The majority of people conducting a campaign of violence towards American citizens is coming from the Democratic/leftist camp. Your direct insinuation that what I wrote will enflame people to hurt Democrats is what your camp is already doing. Sad. Your threat to stop me from exercising my freedom of speech rights is coming straight out of the leftist playbook: lets attack and accuse people with crimes we are already doing. Honestly, you should encourage your people to stop intimidating Trump supporters with violence instigated by their inflammatory rhetoric. Again, the coup began right after the election three years ago. Their motto is resist Trump at all cost, even if it means we run rough shod over the Constitution and trash the laws of the land. Trump is a threat to the globalists and their agenda. They cannot stomach the idea of him having another four years. They will not allow him to touch the central banking system and their control over the world.

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               promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Deflection.

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                  The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Double deflection

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   The Minstrelposted 5 years ago

   Bring on the testimonies! I love transparency! Something Schiff, Pelosi, Nadler, and the rest of the treasonous conspirators hate. I hope they subpoena everybody and get everyone to testify before the senate and the world.

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      Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I agree.  It will be testimony based on a conversation that has been made public.  It's funny how the left doesn't realize having the conversation public makes whatever a "whistle blower" says a mute point. 
      
      The evidence is a whistle blower who spoke with the intelligence committee in general and Adam Schiff specifically...PRIOR...to filing their complaint.  I wonder how anyone can't see how this makes the impeachment a total joke.
      
      https://www.dailywire.com/news/bombshel … aint-filed

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   Readmikenowposted 5 years ago

   It appears the whistle blower also has previously worked with Joe Biden.  This entire impeachment move by the Democrats just plain stinks. It is a hoax.
   
   "A new report in The Washington Examiner that the whistleblower at the center of Democrats' impeachment push had worked with Biden. The whistleblower's anti-Trump attorney, Mark Zaid, acknowledged earlier in the week that his client had "contact" with current presidential contenders "from both parties."
   
   https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … als-reveal

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      The Minstrelposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for the update. This is getting stinker and stinker. I am just amazed at their brazen stupidity.

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      Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I can't believe it! A CIA analyst with deep knowledge of Ukraine who was in the National Security Council during the Obama administration, probably came into "professional" contact with the Vice President, who was leading on trying to reduce corruption in Ukraine during the Obama administration. Astounding!
      
      In other news: water found to be wet; pope found to be catholic!

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago

   The problem seems to be that being continually butthurt isn't grounds for impeachment. Which degenerate party hoax of 2019 was your favorite?
   
   
   
   

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   Readmikenowposted 5 years ago

   It appears Joe Biden has made quite a bit of money for Hunter Biden.  Biden was asked in 2008 about him supporting a bill for the banking industry, and his son being hired by MBNA and also gave a $250,000 conntribution to his campaign. 
   
   "Son of Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden was paid an undisclosed amount of money as a consultant by MBNA, the largest employer in Delaware, during the years the senator supported legislation that was promoted by the credit card industry and opposed by consumer groups."
   
   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mbna-paid- … cked-bill/
   
   Here is a 60 minutes interview about it from 2008.
   
   https://www.cbsnews.com/video/full-inte … ctober-30/

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      Ken Burgessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Another tidbit of news I'm sure you won't be seeing on CNN or the WP is that Burisma holdings paid Joe Biden $900,000 for "Lobbying Activities".
      
      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa … a-n2554546
      
      I mean really, no matter how dirty you want to say Trump is, trying to hold up this guy as who you want to replace Trump with is asinine.
      
      Democrat: Trump is a criminal!  A Russian Conspirator! A thief!
      
      Independent: OK, sure, where there is smoke there is fire, I guess. So who should we replace him with?
      
      Democrat:  Joe Biden!  He's a people's person, a great guy!
      
      Independent: Oy Vey!!!

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         The thought Trump would be an honest POTUS is asinine, Ken. I'm amazed his voters didn't know how corrupt he was when they voted for him. Of course, pure ignorance is rampant on the right.

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         Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         It is a perfect example of false equivalents.  I'm sure we can agree the main sign of TDS is an inability to be objective and logical.  I think it also covers an inability to comprehend facts.  All they have left when faced with truth and facts is snarky comments and insane responses.

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Cool, dudes. Birds of a Oily Trump Feather it seems. Keep your eyes on your ideal the next few days, guys. You'll finally see what a scumbag you've been defending for the last few years. Go ahead Mike, give me your standard response when you fear to answer my queries. Bless my heart and wish me a good day.

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               Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I will simply thank you for making my point about snarky comments and insane responses.  I think I know the people on the left better than they know themselves.  Someday you may provide a comment that is intelligent and insightful.  That day is NOT today.

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                  Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Don't hold your breath. He only ever provides 6th grade level insults, boasting about himself (and we can all see how happy he must truly be) and regurgitated CNN vomit.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 5 years ago

   Here we go again.  The same kind of discussion that drove me away from HubPages in 2016. Have fun - the few of you who are still here.  (I'm here once a week to check my messages, but was amazed time and space is still wasted on discussions like this one. Where did the great writing go?)

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Some of the biggest forum offenders don't even write here. They've typically got 1-10 cheesy articles. I always wonder what they hope to accomplish, as these posts clearly accomplish nothing.

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Sure, your sparkling wit makes up for your obvious Trump worship, Todd. Want to compare your cheesy articles to mine and see who is indeed the "cheesiest"?     

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      promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Some of us feel a responsibility to challenge the extremist propaganda that gets posted on here.

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      Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      It's like a day time soap opera. Years pass, same purposeless drama when you checkback in.

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago

   
   
   That one time the worst candidate, then, in US Presidential history said something smart.

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