"Maybe we will, maybe we won't"

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   PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago

   Trump doubles down on threat to take Syria's oil. President cuts off Fox News interviewer who appears to try to cover over his admission.
   
   "Donald Trump has renewed his threats to forcibly steal oil from Syria, a move which experts say would amount to a war crime.
   
   The president defended his decision to leave a small number of American troops in the war-torn nation after a general withdrawal in October by claiming they were only there to secure Syria’s oilfields.
   
   “They say he left troops in Syria... do you know what I did? I took the oil,” he said during a Fox News interview.
   
   “The only troops I have are taking the oil, they are protecting the oil.”
   
   When the interviewer, Laura Ingraham, attempted to correct Mr Trump by insisting the soldiers were not there to take the oil but to guard the facilities, the president cut her off. "
   
   https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 79381.html
   
   Do you support Trump's stated objective to use our troops to commit a war crime and steal Syria's oil?

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      Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Of course not, Sandy. Some will spin it to Trump's advantage though. They always do...

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         PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I believe most Trumpeters would support the U.S. illegally taking Syria's oil. A few will even admit it. In fact, I expect few on these forums will "stand on principle" and speak out against Trump's blatant admission of planned criminality.

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      Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Panther, that is in a nutshell why we are in the Middle East in the first place.
      
      The Right does not want this information to be generally known as it smacks against the idea of 'liberty, truth and justice for all", as the standard reason for our military action.
      
      Laura, a Rightwinger herself, tried to get Trump from so brazenly admitting such to a public audience, but as "thick" as Trump is, he could not pick up on the hint.
      
      Rather than continue to be dumb in this matter, he might take the wise course and reverse such statements.

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         PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, Trump told the truth because he sees nothing wrong with it, just as Cheney saw nothing wrong with lying about the real reasons for invading Iraq. Righties almost never learn from their stupid "rah-rah America" wars.

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      Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      She tried to help him along, but he still couldn't just say that she was right and he misspoke. So, I tend to agree with you that he wants his base to believe he is at least considering illegally taking Syrian oil.

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Hold on folks. There is a simple explanation for Pres. Trump's comment.
   
   GA

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      Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Please share. On the surface this is very disturbing. First I've heard of it.

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         GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Fox News is already running the story. Iran hacked them and inserted a deep-fake video file in place of the real interview video file.
         
         GA

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            Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Seriously? Wow.

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            Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I hope you are pulling our collective legs, GA!

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               PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I'm sure Trump will be tweeting about it soon. Then you'll know it's true.

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                  Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  An alternative fact at least

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   Maybe I misunderstood Fox's explanation. Maybe what they said was the cameraman cut out early, right after Pres. Trump said "Maybe we will, maybe we won't," and he didn't record the part where Pres. Trump finished by saying, "Of course I am kidding, I left those troops there to protect the oil for the Syrian people."
   
   Or, maybe they didn't say anything at all and I was waiting for someone else to come up with that "simple explanation."
   
   Gotcha!'
   
   GA

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      Live to Learnposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I think you got one person, anyway. If Trump is reading, he'll run with it, though. ;-)

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         Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Gus probably got more than one, Sandy. Sad to say...

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   Live to Learnposted 4 years ago

   He got one person's attention. I couldn't verify one way or the other.

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   hard sunposted 4 years ago

   Where are the forever and always Trumpers on this one?

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Strangely quiet, aren't they? One was momentarily lured out by GA's fake explanation. I guess they haven't yet been told how to defend this one.
      
      Or, as I suspect, most of them do think it's perfectly acceptable for the U.S. to steal Syria's oil; they just haven't yet figured out how to justify it to those who still "stand on principle."

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         GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         That wasn't nice PrettyPanther. I wasn't trying to "lure" anyone. I was just funnin' y'all.
         
         We all take ourselves too damn seriously. I think I might adopt more Onionisms in my participation. Just too keep it real, you know.
         
         GA

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            hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            For the record, you didn't fool me GA :-P

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               GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Damn.
               
               GA  ;-)

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            PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, we all need to lighten up once in awhile. I know it wasn't your intention to lure anyone, but so far, no Trump defenders have weighed in on this thread, except in response to your invented exoneration of Trump. So, you inadvertently lured one, it seems. ;-)

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               Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

               This is interesting, so what do the Trump supporters say about all this instead of just taking the opportunity to use GA's ruse as an explanation as to why Trump would say something so dumb? So he did doed it, yes?
               
               It is so incredible and ridiculous, I thought that it had to be made up. But is it real?

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                  PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  It is real.
                  
                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ … e-illegal/

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                     Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Conservativ s always gripe about the media having a leftist bias. But how did a story of this magnitude barely gets a whisper and has stayed below the radar for so long?
                     
                     Liberal press?
                     
                     I think that the rightwingers are playing good and decent progressives in just another way.
                     
                     As for responsesand explanations from Trumpers, the silence is deafening...

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                        GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Hey bud, since yours is the last of the 'where is their defense' comments, I will grab it to make mine.
                        
                        Could it be that Trump supporters aren't rushing to defend his comment because there is no defense for it? I think that is a good possibility.
                        
                        But, if that is the case, does that imply that they truly think the Trump comments they do defend are defensible?
                        
                        And, if that could be true, could it also be true that Trump defenders aren't sycophants that defend everything-Trump, as portrayed by anti-Trumpers?
                        
                        It seems to me that a case could be made that the lack of Trump-supporters defending this comment could lend a bit of credence to their defense in other areas of support.
                        
                        Maybe they don't support everything, but just what is supportable.
                        
                        Hmm . . . nah, can't be right. Nothing Pres. Trump does is defendable, right?
                        
                        GA

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                           PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           Maybe. Of course, not a single one is volunteering their position one way or another. They are merely silent.

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                              GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Yes, there is that. But I think that may be understandable. When you have to fight for every inch, it's hard to begrudge one. Even if you should.
                              
                              GA

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                                 PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 Aw, poor Trumpeters....I don't feel sorry for this predicament of their own making.

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                                    Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                    That's cold, Sandy....but I'm right there with ya!  Kick 'em when they're down!

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                                       GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Better kick them good. You don't want them getting up again before 11/20.
                                       
                                       GA

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                                          PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                          I hope everyone will vote, even Trumpeters. I feel very strongly that our country would be on a much better course if we had near total participation in voting.

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                                       PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                       Lol, that's kicking them? I guess I have no empathy, and very little respect for that matter, for anyone who still defends Trump after all he has said and done. They're grown ups making their own choices and they still believe he is fit for the office of President of the United States. Yuck.

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                           Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                           So your Commander and Thief reveals to an international audience his intent to take something belonging to another nation in defiance of international law. Are you ok with that?
                           
                           Are you a closet Trump guy?
                           
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                           "But, if that is the case, does that imply that they truly think the Trump comments they do defend are defensible?"
                           
                           Yes, but at least they are debatable and are open to interpretation. But, A statement of a goal of "out and out" theft is not.
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                           "It seems to me that a case could be made that the lack of Trump-supporters defending this comment could lend a bit of credence to their defense in other areas of support."
                           
                           Oh really, not necessarily, why would that be true?
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                           "They just support what is supportable?" What sort of response is that? Although the guy is an ax murderer, we support him because he is pro-life.
                           What sort of reasoning is that?
                           
                           There is the defensible and then there is the ax murderer analogy.....

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                              GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                              Come on Cred, "Commander in Thief"? Are you resorting to cuteness?
                              
                              Did something I inferred or said give you the impression that I was okay with his comment? I didn't think I said or inferred I supported it.
                              
                              Whether I am a closet "Trump guy" is something for you to decide. Of course, if anyone not on the anti-Trump bandwagon is to be deemed a Trump-guy, then I may be guilty as charged - but I hope not.
                              
                              "Yes, but at least they are debatable and are open to interpretation. But, A statement of a goal of "out and out" theft is not."
                              
                              Exactly. That was my point.  Have you seen Trump-supporter defense of these comments? everything about this thread topic says no.
                              
                              And finally, nope, your axe murder analogy is a false one. Yes, they do support what they think is supportable, why is that an unacceptable response? It makes sense to me. If we disagree I have no problem arguing with you, but if I have no doubt you are right then I would not argue with you. That makes too sense to me. But it is your declaration that there has been an axe murder. Not theirs, or mine, so why would I agree with you, or view my disagreement as support, if I did not agree that an axe murder has occurred?
                              
                              GA

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                                 Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                                 GA, the ax murderer designation is for the purpose of this example a fact not a matter for interpretation,
                                 
                                 if the man TOLD you that he was ax murderer, there is no room for spin or alternate facts. That is what Trump SAID in regards to his plans about taking Syrian petroleum reserves. No spin, no misinterpretation.
                                 
                                 That's the difference....

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   PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago

   I guess Trumpeters would be okay with the U.S.illegally taking Syria's oil.
   
   MAGA!

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      GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I heard a rumor that Miles Davis' and Freddie Hubbards' estates are seeking seek and desist orders to force Liberals to stop using Trumpeters as a negative descriptor.
      
      They say it is unfair that they suffer the pejorative effects of a characterization that is beyond their times.
      
      They are suggesting the term "Trumpeteers" would be a suitable replacement.
      
      GA

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         Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I prefer "Trumpsters" instead. I suppose I'm safe for now.

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            GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            You are never safe Randy. It's not in your nature.
            
            GA ;-)

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   hard sunposted 4 years ago

   Their inability to even say, "yeah, he's wrong to say that" supports the appearance of their unconditional love and devotion. To me, this kind of statement shows just how unfit he is. But, we don't even see an admission that this is wrong!

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      That s why I believe some Trump supporters actually approve of his plan to steal Syria's oil. They probably think we are entitled to it. I could be wrong, but since not a single one is willing to stand on principle and speak out against their beloved, it says something, doesn't it?I
      
      MAGA!

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         hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Sure does say something.  And, yes. maybe stealing oil is just part of the MAGA experience. But, what kind of principles are those? Not ones that I would think people want associated with their nation. It gets very hard to determine exactly what the principles are at play here, other than not going against Trump on anything.

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   PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago

   Well, well, I think Trump, as he often does, was testing the waters to see how much of an outcry he would get for wanting to steal Syria's oil. Looks like he got his answer.
   
   I wonder what plans are in the works to invent an excuse to eventually do it?

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      hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      He always gets the same answer from about 35 or 40 percent of Americans. "Whatever you want dear leader."

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