Bye, Bye Biden ?

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   Sharlee01posted 5 years ago

   Tara Reade ---  "woman has filed a police report claiming that presidential candidate Joe Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993, according to reports.
   
   Tara Reade filed a criminal complaint with the Washington Metropolitan Police Department of accusing the 2020 Democratic nomination of pushing her against the wall in a Senate corridor and penetrating her with his fingers, according to Business Insider.
   
   The alleged incident occurred while Reade was working as a Senate staffer for Biden nearly 30 years ago.
   
   Reade"
   
   https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-sexu … de-1497391
   
   
   "Reade also confirmed that the statute of limitations around the claims against Biden have passed.
   
   "I filed a police report for safety reasons only. All crim [sic] stats beyond limitations. Gratitude for all who have stood by me," Reade tweeted."
   
   I have to really respect a woman how reports her abuse to the authorities.

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      Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      It appears this is mostly a symbolic report as the statute of limitations will keep the police from pursuing her case. I'm not sure if the report could be considered in a pattern of behavior if more recent (hypothetical) incidents were reported.

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         Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I give Ms. Reade credit for reporting the rape to the authorities.   Her allegation certainly was graphic and depicts violence.

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            Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I share your sentiments there, Sharlee. It takes bravery to relive those moments and share the details with, well, basically the entire world (not to mention go up against a powerful politician).

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Did you give any credit to the multiple women who accused  Trump? Or just Joe?

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               tsadjatkoposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Did any of them file police reports?

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               PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Especially the 13-year-old girl.

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            GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Why now? Why not 30 years ago when it happened? Or even 12 years ago when Biden was a VP pick?
            
            I have no opinion on the charges, but the consideration of time does work in her favor bu my thinking.
            
            GA

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               Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               This one of the questions Trump supporters asked when he was running for POTUS, Gus. Why now? Why did she wait so long?
               
               And Trump even bragged about grabbing women by the crotch. "When you're a star they let you do it."  If anyone can ignore this statement and vote for him anyway, then they shouldn't let Joe's accusal bother them at all.

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                  GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Once again Randy, there was no 'Trump door' in my comment. Come on bud, do me a courtesy, leave your Trump comments to Trump threads.
                  
                  Don't you have any relevant non-Trump comments?
                  
                  GA

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                     Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Trump is at the center of why we are where we are, GA. Unless you want to start a thread on fly fishing, avoiding Trump in all of this is like trying to make an omelet without breaking any eggs.

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                        GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        What does Trump have to do with a discussion about Joe Biden's candidate negatives?
                        
                        If one negative was that he had six toes on his left foot, would that justify your injection that Trump has six toes on both feet?
                        
                        GA

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                           IslandBitesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           That's not a genuine question.
                           
                           The OG comment implies the allegation will affect a candidate (Biden) enough to make him "Bye Bye".
                           
                           If Trump didnt have any of those kind of allegations, your question will be valid. But it is not.
                           
                           He run and won with those allegations against him. So it is a valid comparisson when (general) you are diacussing "the negatives" of a candidate.

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                              PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Thank you.

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                              Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Thank you....

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                     Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     No, Gus. I compare Trump to the actions of past holders of the office, in both honesty and sexual aggression. How else to consider it?

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               Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Hey, I have several thoughts in regards to why now. Are the Dems behind this allegation or is it the Rep?  Maybe it's just Ms. Reade feeling she needed to step up before Biden possibly became president. As you might guess, we will never know.
               
               This was just mt way of turning the tables. I am the curious sort, sometimes it leads me into trouble. But, I am curious how the Dems will spin this.  Do you recollect all the pedestal dwellers shouting with their moral indignation about all the allegation that were lobbed at Trump?
               
               So, you think we will hear any of this in regards to Biden?

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                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  So why didn't she come forth when Biden was VP if she was so concerned? Should Joe have paid her off like Trump did Stormy and the Playmate? Would that have made it okay?

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                  GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  "Maybe it's just Ms. Reade feeling she needed to step up before Biden possibly became president."
                  
                  I also considered that might be the case. Sort of like the Kavanaugh accuser. That is why I also mention the 12-year time frame when Biden became a VP selection. If the thought was one of prevention, then I think being a VP selection would have been a ripe time.
                  
                  As for your comment about allegations lobbed at Trump . . .  nothing in his history causes me to think they are undeserved.
                  
                  I don't like the guy Sharlee. I will argue unfounded partisan diatribes, but I won't defend the man's character. And any Biden comparisons just strike me as useless but what about . . ." arguments.
                  
                  GA

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                     Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I have never defended Trump's past or do I approve of how he appeared to treat women. I feel he has a narcissistic personality. I have defended some of his actions when I felt appropriate, I give him credit for being a problem solver. I support his job performance.  And in regards to judging his character, I have seen lots of bad, but glimmers of good in the man.
                     
                     My career put me in a setting where I was subjected to "all kinds of people, and personalities". I have found compartmentalizing people did them an injustice.  As a rule, I can find good in most. Just have to take the time to look.

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                  Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  There is nothing to spin, most democrats will simply support the least offensive of two bad choices, just like in 2016. Right now, that is Joe Biden and as a Democrat that how I would "spin it".
                  
                  Between two men with allegations of being notorious womanizers, I am going for the candidate that represents center left, even though I want more "left".  That is better than a rightwing candidate whose approach and ideas border on authoritarianism and fascism. All things being equal, I have no choice as to who I will select this year.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I am so disappointed in my fellow Democrat primary voters for choosing Biden. I think a lot of people thought he was a safe choice.
                     
                     I am so bummed.

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                        Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Me too, Panther, me too.....
                        
                        He is an uninspiring choice in a time where we need both boldness and authenticity in our candidate.

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                           PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Yes, I agree. Maybe others are simply seeking a return to what they see as normalcy. I will welcome that, but will continue to work for Warren, if she is interested in 2024.

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                        Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        I'm sorry Sandy, but he's the lesser of two weevils.....

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                           PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           I agree with you on that.

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               Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I imagine culture could be a factor. Even now, it seems the percentage of sexual assault victims that report crimes is low https://abcnews.go.com/US/women-report- … d=57985818
               
               Prior to the #MeToo movement, and especially 30 years ago, I'd suspect that even less women would report.
               
               It's interesting to see the change in tone with Alyssa Milano from the time of the article though. She has turned her back on the #MeToo movement to support Biden.

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                  GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I can see your "culture" point Eastward, but that doesn't explain, (to me), why she didn't come forward when Biden was selected as VP. A lot had changed, culturally, by then.
                  
                  GA

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                     Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I can see your point as well, GA. The culture at the time Biden became VP surely wasn't the same as it was 30 years ago. If you are interested, just because I saw this clip a few minutes after I had just typed my comment about Alyssa Milano:
                     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1CPYEc … BvnWUnQiqA

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               Ken Burgessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Wow GA,
               
               Do we have to rehash the Kavanaugh debacle, or the fact that the accuser was a professor that had taught on the very subject of how to prepare to accuse others of sexual harassment in a court setting,
               
               Christine Ford was at that time a professor at Palo Alto University who teached in a consortium with Stanford University, training graduate students in clinical psychology.
               
               Ford was at that time a registered Democrat who made contributions to political 'liberal' organizations and had worked in Democrat political campaigns.  In 2017, she participated in a local Women's March protesting President Trump and attended a March for Science in San Francisco to protest Trump's cuts to certain research.
               
               The link below from a site far from right-wing, will corroborate most of the above statement:  https://www.npr.org/2018/09/17/64880368 … ual-assaul
               
               In short, a politically motivated professor waited until the last minute to try and derail Kavanaugh, and I recall you thinking it well worth fully vetting her accusation and giving it credibility, despite it having no support from anyone else, and there being no evidence of Kavanaugh ever displaying such behavior in his life.
               
               This accusation against Biden on the other hand, comes well before any National election, it comes after seven other women accused him of groping and inappropriate touching:  https://news.yahoo.com/seven-women-have … 04785.html
               
               And countless other pictures and videos him fondling and smelling young girls in public: https://joebiden.info/
               
               Better now than two weeks before the election... as was done to Trump, or right before Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing, which was then obviously all about politics.
               
               These accusations are coming out months before November, before he is even made the Nominee,  which makes them seem all the more likely to be true from my perspective.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  But you didn't believe those accusations about Trump until it was too late to not vote for him, Ken?   Yeah right! 
                  
                  What about these photos?
                  
                  https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+a … d0PsxrMoM:

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                  PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Wow. You care about that kind of stuff? Who knew?
                  
                  

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   Kenna McHughposted 5 years ago

   I am no Biden support. Why do we need to read this? It's disgusting.

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Wow! Gotta gun to your head, Kenna? 

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