Why are we Impeaching President Trump? Am I Missing Something Here?

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  1. The Minstrel profile image83
    The Minstrelposted 6 months ago

    Okay, I get it that the Democrats want to win in 2020, but why bank your whole election future on an impeachment initiative that lacks any real substance. It doesn't. The whistle blower only has second hand information, he or she spoke to Adam Schiff's staff before whistling, Trump did not threaten or arm twist in the phone conversation, the president of the Ukraine said he was not pressured, Pelosi initiated an impeachment inquiry without putting it to a floor vote, and Joe Biden did use his VP position to pressure Ukraine to fire a prosecutor that was going after an oil company who had Hunter Biden on its board. By the way, Hunter Biden had no experience in the oil business, but he did get paid $80,000 a month. It doesn't look good. The whole thing looks like a hoax. The whole thing looks like the Democrats are scared and are trying to cover up something. The whole thing stinks! By the way, when did our intelligence agencies get politicized to the point where they are spying on their president. Are they not there to help the president? Sad.

    1. lobobrandon profile image89
      lobobrandonposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Not an American, but the intelligence agencies of any democratic country are there to help the "people" of the country not a single individual. Is it different in the case of the U.S.A?

      1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image95
        Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Yes. Our intelligence communities illegally spied on an incoming President, and attempted to overthrow his election. This was an actual crime committed by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and the FBI, and others.

        This is the exact sort of thing our greatest President, Trump, was elected to rout out of our nation. It's another day here in Texas, and I thank God above for Donald Trump.

        1. Don W profile image83
          Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          "Our intelligence communities illegally spied on an incoming President, and attempted to overthrow his election."

          No they didn't.

          "This was an actual crime committed by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and the FBI, and others."

          No it wasn't

          1. Live to Learn profile image78
            Live to Learnposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Are you saying they didn't spy? Funny, there is  more evidence to support that accusation than there is that Trump colluded. And you definitely support the idea that Trump colluded.

            What's up? Conspiracy theories the only thing you consider to be truth?

            1. Don W profile image83
              Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              The intelligence community did not illegally spy on Trump, nor did it attempt to overthrow his election.

          2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image95
            Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            LOL!

            Okay. It's fine with me if you live in a fantasy world. Welcome to Don's world of the make believe! YAY!

            Personally, I very much dislike you. I'd prefer you not bother speaking to me. You're not living in actual reality, and you are posting falsehoods.

            1. Don W profile image83
              Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              It's fine with me if you live in a fantasy world.

              It's called reality. Look into it. It won't hurt you.

              "Personally, I very much dislike you."

              I don't feel very much at all about you, but I will wear your dislike as a badge of honor.

              "I'd prefer you not bother speaking to me."

              Too bad. This is a public forum. I can respond (or not) to whom I choose, just as you can. Isn't freedom a wonderful thing.

              "...you are posting falsehoods"

              What's false are your allegations against the intelligence community, most of whom diligently work to prevent the worst harm coming to you, even as you defame them.

              1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image95
                Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                This is a writer's website. So I wonder what you are even doing here? You're only clogging the forums with violent left wing extremism, and the rest of us are writers.

                It's pretty sad. Maybe you should learn to be a writer?

                1. Randy Godwin profile image91
                  Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  lol What violent left wing extremism are you referring to, Toddy? Would you rather him be a violent right wing extremist? roll

                  And too bad YOU don't get to decide who posts here. Get over it!

                  1. lobobrandon profile image89
                    lobobrandonposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                    They're all the same, these right-wing guys. They can't counter stuff so they just say that the person should not be posting.

                    A comment from reddit, somewhat unrelated, but very apt to add to this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comm … housed_in/

                    BEGIN QUOTE
                    Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed.

                    trump supporters, WTF? You okay with this? Not even talking about the illegality of the situation. Y'all have lost your fucking souls.
                    END QUOTE

                2. Don W profile image83
                  Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  As one of Trump's "fine people" you'd know more about violent extremism than I do. Shouldn't you be out screaming "blood and soil" and waving a tiki torch at someone?

                  Or perhaps you prefer crying on public forums when someone tells you you're full of bovine excrement. Perhaps it's a cry for help. Are you feeling snowflaky? Do you need a safe space away from the mean liberal saying disturbing things about something called "re-al-ity"?

                  When you've finished throwing your tantrum, perhaps you'll have a little think and realise that you're not in control here. I know that's hard for you to deal with, but you better suck it up, because I'm going to respond to comments as I see fit, and there's nothing you can do about it, except throw more tantrums of course. That's more a measure of you though than it is me.

                  So as I was saying, those conspiratorial allegations against the intelligence community are as idiotic as they are false. Most of the men and women in that community work diligently to protect the country, and it's a shame some people are so enthralled by Trump that they are willing to defame people who work hard to keep them safe.

              2. Credence2 profile image79
                Credence2posted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Don, stand your ground here. You have obviously struck a nerve and if HE is that vexed over your content and approach, you have got to be doing something right.

                The absolute temerity of some people, huh?

                1. Don W profile image83
                  Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  Don't worry Credence, I'm not going anywhere. I've always found that bullies who shout loudest, often have the least to shout about. Tantrums don't impress me. Never have, never will.

        2. The Minstrel profile image83
          The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, I totally agree. They spied on Trump. It's clear.

    2. PrettyPanther profile image82
      PrettyPantherposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      What is sad is the massive amount of false information in this post.

    3. James A Watkins profile image89
      James A Watkinsposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      The Left has never believed in our Constitution or free elections or free enterprise or pretty much anything about America - except our wealth, which they plan to plunder.

      1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image95
        Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Absolutely true. We've the never ending fake news believers. Marionettes and clowns to contend with.  None of them even close to smart enough to understand what it is they're actually supporting.

        You've got these people who think they deserve free healthcare, free education, and free who knows what else. Persons who vote for higher taxes deserve poverty. They always believe they know the person they want voted in, or in the case of today, the person they think will overthrow Trump - they think they know how the money will be spent. They believe it will be taken from the rich, and given to them.

        It never happens like that.

      2. Randy Godwin profile image91
        Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Yes indeed, we hate this country and want it to fail. roll

        1. promisem profile image97
          promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          But the far right is fine with a President who breaks the law. Nothing unConstitutional about that.

      3. The Minstrel profile image83
        The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Yes, it seems as if the Democratic Party has a taken a sharp left turn and is wanting to undermine our constitution. Also, what law did Trump break in regards to his call with the Ukrainian president? They showed the transcript (which is bad in itself because presidents should be able to call other foreign leaders without having to show transcripts) and it did not contain threats to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for dirt on Biden. Trump made a legitimate request from one president to another. This is not illegal. The Democrats and the mainstream media are covering up one of the biggest political crimes in the history of our country. The Joe and Hunter Biden thing is just the tip of the iceberg. The Democrats are scared witless. Barr and Durham will expose some serious corruption in the Obama administration that will make Watergate look like jaywalking. That is why they are doing something so desperate.

      4. tsadjatko profile image64
        tsadjatkoposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        How come every single long-tenured member of the Senate or the House are multi-multimillionaires? Hundreds of millions, usually when they make, you know less than $200,000 a year? How can that possibly be true? Well, that's because they all get paid off.

        Like Joe Biden's son, Nancy Pelosi's son, Paul Pelosi Jr. has had lucrative contracts in the Ukrainian energy business. Paul Pelosi was a board member at Viscoil and an executive at its related company, NRGLab.

        Adam Schiff has long been on the payroll of Ukrainian oligarch, Igor Pasternak, who according to Douglas Gabriel has replaced Adnan Khashoggi as the preeminent arms dealer for Syria, Libya, etc.

        So, who is paying off Pelosi and Schiff? In this case, it's Ukrainian Igor Pasternak...The whole Democratic Party went over and tried to get a piece of these Ukrainian oligarchs. Everything was going great for eight years, when Obama was in the White House. Why? Because we gave $4.7 million dollars to the State Department, which included Hillary Clinton and particularly, Victoria Nuland to have two George Soros-sponsored color revolutions to take out Viktor Yanukovych, who was the duly elected president in Ukraine. Twice.

        Everything the media won’t tell you is right here - of course pushing lies about Trump is more important than blowing the whistle on themselves!

        It’s all here, there are so many incredible details in this podcast, it is SUCH a needed antidote to the psychopathic lying corporate media!

        https://youtu.be/bNiAWqaCdkk

        By now, we've all heard that Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, with zero expertise in the fuel industry, zero Ukrainian language skills and few apparent skills outside of smoking crack and shagging women, was awarded a $3 million board of directors position at Burisma Holdings, one of Ukraine's most corrupt corporations. Hunter was also awarded a $1.5 billion venture capital investment from China, a country notorious for being tight-fisted toward foreign-owned ventures. Nobody, not Donald Trump, not Eric Schmidt has ever landed a deal of that size from the Chinese.
        What we may not have known before listening to this podcast by Tyla and Douglas Gabriel is how so many members of the DNC are up to their eyeballs in graft from Ukraine. In addition, few are aware of the toxic extent of foreign influence on our representatives.

        "When Obama, because he was trying to act like a tough guy in one of the last days in his office put sanctions on Russia for meddling in the election - which they didn't do - what he actually did was he created this gigantic crisis in Ukraine. He assumed that Trump was going to come in, take the sanctions off and then they could blame Trump for that and say, "Oh! How bad you are!" Well, Trump didn't.

        "So what happened? Inadvertently, Obama caused an explosion in Ukraine. So, all the oligarchs and all of the Party of Regents who were friends of Joe Biden, who were friends of Pelosi, of Schiff, of Schumer and friends of course, working through Igor Pasternak...as well as other Ukrainians, like Leonard Blavatnik, one of the largest donors to the Democratic Party, especially to their Super PACs - who works through a Russian, Viktor Vekselberg, who's in Russia but he also works through an Israeli, Mikhail Fridman. These are the people donating to the Democratic Party...

        "When you're talking about Ukrainian oligarchs, those are just the nouveau riche, those are the nouveau oligarchs those are the new oligarchs of Ukraine created by Obama. Why? Because it was the heyday of US attempts to intervene into Ukraine, to make sure that the oblast provinces that were voting to have Russia control them, not the Party of Regents, the Nazi Party in Ukraine, who Joe Biden was aligned with and Obama was aligned with, Hillary is aligned with, John Kerry was aligned with - and they all took trips over there all the time and they were all paid for by these Ukrainians.

        "But remember then, the the people of Ukraine would vote Viktor Yanukovych back into office and then they'd be on the outs. So, the Americans, who had invested $4.7 billion into taking over Ukraine so they can control that pipeline, so they thought they could control Russia - which they can't (Russia was building two other pipelines at the same time: Nord Stream 1 Nord Stream 2 - Nord Stream 1 now goes to Germany in a secret deal), so, what we have is, when the sanctions get put on Russia, the pipeline into Ukraine stopped. 40% of Ukrainian GDP stopped...

        "All of this impeachment is an attempt for Pelosi to become the President. Make no mistake about it. They changed all the rules. We no longer have a Constitutional republic in the House...we have an attempted coup of the House, which is an attempted coup of the President, which had already used the intelligence agencies to the best of their ability.

        "And every one of our Five Eyes friends - and many other spies in other countries, including Ukraine, including Estonia, including, hardly at all in Russia but certainly, Britain, which was the source of it, Canada, Australia, Italy, Germany. They were all involved in the coup and that is what is coming down now...

        "We need to remember that George Soros has given $32 billion to the Democratic Party. Now, how do I mean that? Through super PACs. Six billion - he went through the limit on that - he could legally, through super PACs. He's literally the only person in some of these super PACs.

        "Then he has 184 non-government organizations that all claim to be not-for-profit. They should all be closed down, because they're all partisan. Any not-for-profit, if they do not state that - and none of his organizations do - they all have names like - how about this one - the one that just created, WhistleblowerAid.org ...

        "Let me just give you a perfect example the Ukrainian whistleblower. Well, first off, we can sit here and you know, everyone's poking holes in that story; the Russian collusion 2.0, isn't it? Same people, same story same bad delivery, same bad planning and no content, whatsoever. But what we want to point out is it all comes down to conversations that were had with the whistleblower and the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP).

        "Go to the bottom of their page look them up: the OCCRP the organized crime and corruption reporting project this is all a staged game...so, if you look them up online, go to the bottom. Look at their number one donor: the Open Society. George Soros. So, all we have is fake evidence created illegally by the OCCRP, the organized crime and corruption reporting project of George Soros where, supposedly this whistleblower who, breaking every law there is, including every security contract that he has - to come to a public organization supposedly, a not-for-profit, which it isn't, of course - and so it should be closed down immediately - and reporting to them and then they told him to report to Adam Schiff - not to the Inspector General, which everyone in any branch of the government knows, when you have a problem you report to your IG office immediately...

        "This is nothing more than a cesspool of an attempt for George Soros to find people who he can corrupt by paying them off for stories, like that Ford lady who accused Kavanaugh - who should be put in jail for what she did. This whistleblower should go to jail for what they did but now, no, we're singing the praises the OCCRP."

        1. promisem profile image97
          promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          How ironic that you spew hate for the "psychopathic lying corporate media", but you post a link to a fake Russian video.

          Here is the link to the secret website that produced the video for anyone who wants their daily ration of hate and propaganda:

          https://aim4truth.org/

          1. tsadjatko profile image64
            tsadjatkoposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Lol so predictable, you can’t refute one fact presented so you attack the messenger with a made up smear! What is secret about AIM and it’s not a fake Russian video - you just made that up! oh, that’s right you are a journalist! makes sense.

            1. promisem profile image97
              promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              What personal smear? I requoted you. It's the anonymous video and website I'm smearing.

              I've been refuting these absurd claims for days. But Trump extremists keep posting them.

              If AIM is so much better than the "psychopathic lying corporate media", maybe you can tell me who owns it.

              1. tsadjatko profile image64
                tsadjatkoposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Did I say personal smear? I didn’t say you smeared me. I am not the source of this information, the podcast and AIM are the messenger And you smeared them both without one iota of interest in what they presented - and you know it, you are just trying to deflect - pretty sophomoric.

                1. promisem profile image97
                  promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  "You attack the messenger with a made up smear."

                  Don't you read your own posts?

                  And yes, you are the messenger. Or did someone else hack your account and post it for you?

          2. wilderness profile image96
            wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Guess that "secret website" is no longer very secret, is it?  Not after your exhaustive research found it.

            All that's left is to prove that they (owners of the name?  Employees of the site?  The web designer that constructed it?) produced that video.  You DO understand that simply making the claim is not adequate, any more than making the claim that Trump colluded with Russia to throw the election was.

            1. promisem profile image97
              promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              You do understand that I work online for a living, don't you? And you are a retired electrician, if I remember correctly? So maybe I know what I'm talking about?

              All I needed to do is go to the site to see:

              - No required privacy policy.
              - No visitor agreement.
              - No contact information.
              - No site ownership information.
              - No bylines identifying the writers.

              Then all I had to do is go to the domain registration services to see that the owner paid to hide his or her identity.

              But oh, "AIM 4 Truth" is so much more credible than the "psychpathic lying corporate media".

              LOL.

        2. Don W profile image83
          Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          A US president asking a foreign leader to investigate the son of a political rival a year before a general election is a disgrace and an abuse of authority.

    4. promisem profile image97
      promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      All Sean Hannity talking points.

      Trump told the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Joe Biden, Trump's main political rival in 2020. That's illegal.

      Hunter Biden is a lawyer. He was hired to be a lawyer and not an energy expert.

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        "Trump told the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Joe Biden, Trump's main political rival in 2020. That's illegal."

        Meaning that if you run for president against Trump you are entitled to do anything you want to?  Does this mean that it is illegal to go on a dirt finding mission against Trump because he is an opponent of Biden, or does it only work for Trump opponents?

        1. promisem profile image97
          promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          No, it means it's illegal for a President to push foreign governments to dig up dirt on his political rivals.

        2. Live to Learn profile image78
          Live to Learnposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          I think it means,  if you are trying to get the Democratic nomination any illegal activity is not subject to scrutiny or censorship.

        3. Randy Godwin profile image91
          Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          No, meaning if you are POTUS you cannot break your oath of office by trying to get dirt on a political opponent. But you already knew that or should have.

          1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image95
            Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Hunter Biden isn't a political opponent of Donald J. Trump. Did I miss the announcement of Hunter Biden running for POTUS?

      2. Readmikenow profile image96
        Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        This is where people on the left are so confused.  The president o the Ukraine wasn't asked to dig up dirt, by their own admission, this issue with Biden had been in the public for year, so no "dirt digging." It was actually a request to investigate possible corruption by an American elected official.  Facts matter.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image91
          Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Okay Mike, perhaps you'd like to answer the question Trump tried so hard to avoid yesterday? You remember don't you? The reporter made Trump angry by repeatedly asking him what he wanted the Ukrainian president to do.

          It was embarrassing to see the formally most powerful leader in the world. deflect and pitch a fit, but avoid answering the direct query.  Perhaps you can do better?

          1. Readmikenow profile image96
            Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            See, I suggest you read the transcript of the conversation and come to your own conclusion.  It is a question that is answered in the transcript.  The reporter was grandstanding.

            1. Randy Godwin profile image91
              Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Are you stating Trump answered the question asked of him, Mike? That he didn't try to deflect? I hope you're more intelligent than that, Mike. Trump made a fool of himself by acting so indignant.

              The "transcript" leaves a lot to be desired. Out of 40 minutes are so of dialogue there's only abut 12 minutes reported. What happened during the almost 30 minutes which are missing? Do tell...

        2. promisem profile image97
          promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          This is where people on the right are in serious denial.

          Trump admitted it. His words are right on the doctored transcript.

          What he did was illegal. Federal campaign finance law prohibits anyone from soliciting any “thing of value” from a foreign national.

          Facts matter. So does reality.

          https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-52-v … 30121.html

          1. Readmikenow profile image96
            Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Sorry, read the transcript.  President Donald Trump was well within his job description to want an investigation against a corrupt American politician.  Because I did read the transcript I know the campaign was never mentioned.  You must be referring to the blatant lies told to Congress by Adam Schiff.

            1. promisem profile image97
              promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Of course I read the doctored transcript, the campaign finance law and multiple legal opinions from actual lawyers.

              I also believe Trump's own people who were so terrified by the conversation that they hid the transcript.

              Sorry, I'll believe their interpretation of the law before I believe yours.

              1. Readmikenow profile image96
                Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Okay, so now the document is "doctored."  There is no proof of such a thing.

            2. crankalicious profile image90
              crankaliciousposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Biden was corrupt for doing what exactly? The same thing that half the world seemed to want - to get rid of a prosecutor who wouldn't investigate corruption? The same thing Republicans asked for - to get rid of this prosecutor?

              You've got this completely backward. The point of the firing was to better investigate corruption, not to stop it. Your narrative makes no sense and is just further example of regurgitating Fox talking points.

              There's no evidence at all that any decision was made because Hunter Biden worked for whatever company he worked for. Biden carried out the will of the U.S., the will of the Republican Party, and the will of most of the world.

              If Trump wants to investigate how politicians' children do business, he should launch a bi-partisan investigation. That would be welcome. I suspect, however, that his own children would get caught up in that scandal, which is why he targeted a single, political rival in a phone call with a foreign leader.

              1. Readmikenow profile image96
                Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Do you realize the person who actually fired the prosecutor made a public statement in the Ukraine that he was specifically told to stop all investigation into Biden's son?  Interesting how nobody wanted to this prosecutor until he started investigating Biden's son.

                1. Readmikenow profile image96
                  Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  I never thought I'd see this in the American media.  Here is a story about it.

                  Ex-Ukraine prosecutor claims he was told to back off Biden-linked firm probe

                  “Mr. Shokin attempted to continue the investigations but on or around June or July of 2015, the U.S. Ambassador [to Ukraine] Geoffrey R. Pyatt told him that the investigation has to be handled with white gloves, which according to Mr. Shokin, that implied do nothing,”

                  https://nypost.com/2019/10/02/ex-ukrain … be-report/

                  1. crankalicious profile image90
                    crankaliciousposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                    The NY Post? Really?

                    Biden didn't ask for something that was anything other than what everybody else on the planet seemed to be asking for - fire somebody who as NOT investigating corruption and hire somebody that WOULD investigate corruption.

                    And I'm not even saying this isn't a good thing to investigate - how does this sort of arrangement even happen 50k/month - but unfortunately President Trump chose the stupidest of all possible ways to bring it up - an illegal, impeachable way.

    5. GA Anderson profile image91
      GA Andersonposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, The Minstrel, you are missing something. Facts.

      GA

      1. promisem profile image97
        promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        ^5

    6. Don W profile image83
      Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      "Why are we Impeaching President Trump?"

      Because, among other things, he abused the Authority of the Office of the President of the United States by trying to get a foreign leader to investigate the son of a political rival, a year before a general election.

      Any other questions?

      1. Readmikenow profile image96
        Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        I disagree.  It is within the authority of the president to investigate possible corruption by an American politician in a foreign country.  If there is no corruption, then Joe Biden should welcome an investigation to clear his name and his son's dealings with a foreign country. 

        We don't see such a thing.  What we see is Joe Biden saying he knew nothing about the Ukrainian company paying his son $50,000 a month and then seeing pictures of Joe Biden playing golf with an executive from the company.

        The new president of the Ukraine was interested in investing the Biden situation before the phone call.  You may not know this, but the new Ukrainian president discussed this during his campaign.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image91
          Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          So you believe Trump should welcome an investigation so his name will be cleared, Mike? Just releasing his taxes would go a long way in doing so as well. I'll bet you're all for that, eh?    roll

          1. promisem profile image97
            promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            That's a great idea. All Republicans should favor a thorough investigation of Trump's finances to prove his innocence.

          2. Readmikenow profile image96
            Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            You need to realize his taxes are with the tax professionals at the IRS.  If there is anything wrong, they are the ones who can give fines as well as even recommend a criminal trial.

            So, President Donald Trump's tax returns are with the agency in the government responsible for investigating such things.

        2. Don W profile image83
          Don Wposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          The title of this thread asks "Why are we impeaching President Trump". The answer to that question is: Because, among other things, he abused the Authority of the Office of the President of the United States by trying to get a foreign leader to investigate the son of a political rival, a year before a general election.

          Whether you believe Trump abused the authority of the office or not is irrelevant to the fact that that, among other things, is the reason he is being impeached.

          Regardless, again Biden legitimately pushed Ukraine to get better at dealing with corruption. What he didn't do was ask the Ukrainian president to investigate Mitt Romney's son a year before the general election. Can you see the difference?

    7. tsadjatko profile image64
      tsadjatkoposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      They have no intention of impeaching him. The whole thing was contrived to make false accusations exactly like what they did on Russian collusion but they didn’t count on Trump releasing the transcript of the phone call. That proved everything they were saying before was lies and everything since is lies. But they were already in it up to their necks so the Democrats are stuck with having to play a losing hand - their bluff has been called and like with collusion they have the media lying to help them along. They will play it out as far as they can get negative media from it on Trump and then they will drop it. There is nothing impeachable here and they know it, and so does every thinking voter. No party of a president, Democrat or Republican, has ever voted in the senate to indict on an impeachment, they know this senate will never do that and after the election the Republicans will own them, the house and the senate will be controlled by the Republicans and with Trump as president for four more years they will mark the end of what has become the Looney left Democratic Party.

      1. The Minstrel profile image83
        The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Yes! They had no idea he would release the transcript. Check mate!

  2. Live to Learn profile image78
    Live to Learnposted 6 months ago

    Seriously. Why don't they go against Trump for his real crimes? Look at his hair style. And he raised a child following in his footsteps. Look at Don Jr.'s hair style.

    Impeach him for poor taste. Then remove Baron from his care. It's probably too late, but what the heck.

    Those are crimes against humanity.

    1. The Minstrel profile image83
      The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Yup. This latest impeachment initiative rises to the level of insanity. Just field a good candidate and win the election legally.

  3. Randy Godwin profile image91
    Randy Godwinposted 6 months ago

    The answer, because he's a crook who lies to the American public on a daily basis. Of course, his supporters love him for it...

    1. Readmikenow profile image96
      Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Oh, anybody who liked Hillary liked a crook who lied to the American public on a daily basis.  So, why would this bother a Democrat?  Puh-leeze.

      1. promisem profile image97
        promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Whataboutism.

  4. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 6 months ago

    I'm sure we can agree the Democrats have wanted to impeach President Donald Trump since he was elected.  I think shortly after he took office they began their first moves for impeachment.  It has become an obsession with them.  This impeachment is proof of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    The other thing is the Democrats are afraid.  They have NO candidates who will defeat President Donald Trump in 2020.  This is an example of their desperation.  All they have to try and win in 2020 are lies, hoaxes, and false accusations.  Democrat Congressman Al Green said if they don't impeach President Donald Trump he will probably win in 2020.  He knows it.

    They couldn't look more sad.

    1. The Minstrel profile image83
      The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Yup! They have no other strategy but to lie. Trump is messing up the apple cart and is going for the jugular: the central banking system. This is bigger than just the USA. Schiff, Pelosi, Nadler, and the other politicians ae just pawns being used by the real power brokers behind the scenes.

    2. crankalicious profile image90
      crankaliciousposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Just wondering, but after 8 years of Republican obstructionism under Obama, what exactly did anyone expect from Democrats.

      This back-and-forth vitriol is just going to go on for awhile and probably get worse.

      1. The Minstrel profile image83
        The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        The Republican level of obstructionism did not rise to eight years of trying to delegitimize his presidency by trying to impeach Obama. The Democrats need to come to this conclusion: Trump won fair and square. However, this won't happen. He poses too great a threat to their political and world view. They will oppose him throughout his four or eight years.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image91
          Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Yeah right, Obama was prevented from appointing a Supreme Court justice. Who obstructed that?

          1. Readmikenow profile image96
            Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            I hate to mention this but a president does not appoint a Supreme Court justice.  He can recommend a candidate and the Senate can choose whether or not to take up a vote on it.  The Republicans were well within their rights to not take up a vote.  If Obama wanted to appoint someone to the Supreme Court, he should have had a party that could have taken control of the Senate.  Sorry, these are the facts.

            1. Credence2 profile image79
              Credence2posted 6 months agoin reply to this

              What was done to Obama by McConnell and the GOP dominated Senate, was done over several months and was unwarranted and unprecedented. So, don't get upset if Democrats reciprocate and most certainly, we will.

              1. The Minstrel profile image83
                The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Yet, that Republican senate showed a level respect and professionalism when they confirmed justice Sotomayer and Kagan, even though they totally disagreed with their progressive view of the Constitution. They did not treat Kavanaugh with such respect. They flat out lied and totally destroyed his reputation through character assassination. We have entered a very dangerous phase in the life of our republic. They are lying now in regards to this recent impeachment fiasco. I worry for our kids.

                1. Randy Godwin profile image91
                  Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  Kavanaugh is a sniveling crybaby who should not be near a seat on the SCOTUS. The investigation was a farce as many of those who called in to be interviewed were never contacted.

                2. promisem profile image97
                  promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  They? Don't you mean all of the women who said he was a sexual predator? Including people who confirmed their testimony?

                  1. wilderness profile image96
                    wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                    Unfortunately not a single person confirmed the claim by Ford.

        2. Credence2 profile image79
          Credence2posted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Welcome, Minstrel, as I have not heard from you before.

          The GOP actually impeach d Clinton simply over his choice of bedmates.

          Yes Trump and the rightwingers are always opposed to the point of view of the Left including myself. But do not progressive candidates and viewpoints have the same effect on the conservative/ Rightwinger

          The stubborn GOP congress and its obstructionism derail d much of the Obama agenda. Do you not think that the same would not happen to Trump and his rightwing followers?

      2. Live to Learn profile image78
        Live to Learnposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        You're right. A mad dash to impeach without a recognizable crime is easily to duplicate election to election.

        I see the House as attacking and attempting to minimize the power constitutionally given to another branch of government.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image91
          Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Using the power of the presidency to investigate a political rival is an easily identifiable crime to those who aren't half blind with loyalty to the cretin.

          He violated his oath of office again today by admitting he wanted China to investigate Biden. He may be the first POTUS to write his own articles of Impeachment, complete with video clips of his own words. yikes

          1. Live to Learn profile image78
            Live to Learnposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Why no rush to prosecute Obama? I've ceased to be amazed at the bias and blinders.

            1. lobobrandon profile image89
              lobobrandonposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Whataboutisim.

            2. PrettyPanther profile image82
              PrettyPantherposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              roll

            3. Readmikenow profile image96
              Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Obama got away with his many scandals.  There is nothing to be done about it now.  I say let it go, there is nothing good that can come from it.

              1. lobobrandon profile image89
                lobobrandonposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Why should you let it go though? If someone did something wrong, they deserve to be dealt with as the law sees fit. Obama, Trump whoever. But saying one guy should get away with it because someone else got away with it shows how wise a person truly is.

              2. promisem profile image97
                promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                False equivalence.

                I don't recall reading anything about Obama illegally bribing and pressuring other countries to destroy his political rivals.

            4. Randy Godwin profile image91
              Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              What scandals are you referring to?

              1. Readmikenow profile image96
                Readmikenowposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                What scandals?  Where have YOU been?  Seriously, do you see how the media has hidden these things from you.  Geeze. This is a short list.

                "Here’s a list of nine controversies that Obama didn’t mention at the Democratic fundraiser, but that nevertheless leave many unanswered questions."

                https://www.dailysignal.com/2016/10/24/ … -scandals/

                1. Randy Godwin profile image91
                  Randy Godwinposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  ;Ha! got a link to a reputable site, one not from the rightwing Heritage Foundation?

            5. The Minstrel profile image83
              The Minstrelposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Yes, the brazen biasness is shocking when it comes to what the main stream media decides to report on. Nothing on the suspicious dealings between the Bidens and Ukraine. If anything, it's worth investigating. There is more factual proof that they committed crimes than the 'hearsay' stuff Pelosi and the other power hungry Democrats are using to fuel their fake impeachment proceedings.

    3. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image95
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      It looks like the death of the Democratic party, and that is the best looking thing I've ver seen.

      1. promisem profile image97
        promisemposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Both parties have been losing members at the same pace for many years.

        https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/part … ation.aspx

    4. Sharlee01 profile image83
      Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

      So agree...

  5. Kenna McHugh profile image92
    Kenna McHughposted 6 months ago

    Thanks for the updates on the impeachment. It's clearer and more succinct than Fox and CNN combined. smile
    Now, I can go back to my life, get productive, and have fun.

  6. paradigmsearch profile image88
    paradigmsearchposted 6 months ago

    "Why are we Impeaching President Trump? Am I Missing Something Here?"

    It's called politics.

    The Republicans tried to impeach Clinton, just because he lied about getting a BJ.

    It's now the Democrats turn. And it does appear Trump lied about much more important things.

    Time will tell. I'm already stocking up on the popcorn.

  7. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 6 months ago

    I guess the Democrats are going to end the impeachment proceedings.

    It seems the high-ranking Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is now bored with the impeachment proceedings and is over it. 

    "Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., NY) told supporters during a town hall in Queens on Thursday that impeachment proceedings against President Trump were “boring” and distracted from the goal of “social and economic and racial justice in the United States of America.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/aoc … s-over-it/

 
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