Mark Cuban, the infamous and often eccentric billionaire, has said in various interviews that he hasn't ruled out the possibility of running for President of the United States, even as early as this year as a possible late entry. Mark Cuban is business owner in the NBA, which happens to be the Dallas Mavericks. During the current pandemic, he was one of the first NBA owners to publicly state that he would continue to pay all his employees during the COVID-19 crisis, as he felt it was the right thing to do. And since he made this announcement, other NBA owners have stepped up and followed his example.
Some of you might know Mark Cuban from his brief stint on the reality TV shows like "The Benefactor" and "Shark Tank", or from his various other TV show appearances that include, but not limited to, having cameos in the Simpsons, Walker Texas Ranger, and many others. Heck, he's even appeared in some movies like "Talking about Sex", and many others. Plus, fun fact. He also played the President of the United States in a movie once that many of you horror buffs out there will know as "Sharknado 3: Oh hell no!" Could "Sharknado 3: Oh hell no!" be a foreshadowing of who our future President could be? Who knows? I guess time will tell.
I don't know Cuban's political leanings, nor do I care. However, he was reportedly a friend of Donald Trump. And according to various sources, Mark Cuban and Dallas Cowboys' owner, Jerry Jones, were asked to join Donald Trump's panel of financial leaders from various businesses that consist of 50 members, where each member would provide opinions and suggestions on what steps could be taken to reopen the economy.
Again, I don't know what Mark Cuban's political beliefs are, nor do I know what policies he would want to implement if he did become president, so any of you wish to share that information then feel free to do so in this forum. However, what are your thoughts? Should Mark Cuban run for president? And if so, then should it be this year, or maybe wait until the next election in 2024?
Or do you think it's a bad idea? Please discuss.
After I had time to think about this, I think I would LOVE to see Mark Cuban enter this year's presidential race as a late entry if for no other reason than to be entertained watching him debate President Trump on the national debate stage. That would be epic to watch. Two eccentric billionaires and former reality TV show stars debating in a presidential election? Now that would be entertaining to me.
Looking at the 2020 election I think it will be a good idea if Mark Cuban stands for president. If the Lord has a say and the coronavirus does something silly, it could very well catapult him into the chair. Donald Trump as President is not exactly a success and Joe Biden does not inspire confidence at 77. For a change American people may give a chance to Cuban and in my view he must stand.
That's a very astute point honestly. One I didn't consider. Well either way, this year's election should prove to be an interesting one as I think more will be on the line to get the right guy to get us through this pandemic crisis one way or another.
Oh now, I think you will find 45-55% of Americans would consider Trump a success.
You can't go by what the MSM projects, keep in mind here in America at least CNN & MSNBC & Others are all opinion, bias and BS all the time.
Fortunately the majority of America recognizes this, doubly so for the younger (under 40) generations that don't even watch Cable/Network news.
For example take the bloggers (below), they get as many hits to their sites as CNN gets viewers, its much harder to sell 'Fake News' to younger Americans who never tuned in to TV News in the first place.
That's why you see almost exclusively that the Americans on HubPages here that are responding to whatever falsehoods CNN and there like is pumping out are over the age of 50.
Those over 50 were groomed as they were growing up to believe the News, to believe it was impartial and fair and would tell the facts. There certainly was a time when the News was more factual, reliable, and had standards and integrity that the various agencies tried to maintain... but those days are long gone, today's "news" is all about profits and propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UkkSiEV7RU
When Tim puts out one of his daily vids it gets between 250-500,000 views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhiBzM4rMgQ
When Lucas puts out one of his daily vids it gets between 100-200,000 views.
This is where the young people are getting their news from, they laugh at CNN for the joke that it is. This is why polls are increasingly useless, they don't capture the younger generations very well, nor do they capture the 'deplorables' or the 'forgotten Americans' at all.
So next time you see a CNN poll that tells you Biden has a lead on Trump in the coming re-election, what that means is Biden is down by 20 and has no chance in hell. Because the likes of CNN have no clue how to figure out what Americans are really thinking, and even if CNN did, they would deny it and push the anti-Trump agenda, its all they know.
Bad idea, I have had my fill of politically inexperienced billionaires, considering their wealth as their sole qualifier for the office.
I say NO.
Credence2, the RICH rules the world. You can't change this no matter how much ye protest. The wealthy have ruled the world since the world has become civilized. Rich people are the sociocultural, socioeconomic, & sociopolitical A students. Remember in school that A students are highly considered & the elite. If one wants to rule, one has to gain wealth & with that comes power. If one isn't socioeconomically wealthy or rich, h/she CAN'T rule, pure & simple. These are …..THE RULES of THE GAME...…
If you are solidly middle & upper middle class, you are sociocultural, socioeconomic, & sociopolitical B students, the lower middle class are deemed sociocultural, socioeconomic, & sociopolitical C students, working class are the D students in this case while the lower to underclass are the F students as they are deemed powerless failures. In our society, what level of wealth one has determines what power h/she has & what type of respect one gets. People at the lower socioeconomic rung I.e. lower, working, & lower middle get the LEAST respect- they are considered non-persons while the upper middle & upper classes the MOST respect. The solidly middle class, well, they are somewhat acknowledged.....no more, no less.... The point is that the wealthy & rich will ALWAYS GET THE MOST RESPECT- you can't change this....
So I'm guessing you're endorsing Mark Cuban possibly running for President of the United States this year as a late entry?
I may not be able to change it, but I will be damned if I don't try.
I will NOt be enslaved politically, economically and socially by a hand ful of people just because they have large sums of money.
WAR will be declared.....
I'm with you on that sentiment, Credence. The rich have ruled the world throughout history but average people have made a difference when they stood up. We look back on a lot of practices that seem incomprehensible today, but they changed because people were willing to make a stand.
An interesting way of breaking it down. And I would say accurate for the American system, and one of the reasons why our system is still one of the best out there... and those few that are better are allowed to be so largely because America has given them safe haven and carried the brunt of keeping their world safe for them.
But we could be living in a far worse system... IE - Venezuela or Cuba or Egypt, etc. where there is the Ruling Class... and then there is everyone else ranging in the not-too-poor (think medical, military and police) to very-poor classes.
And then there is China... where every citizen is just an expendable tool to be used by the State for whatever purposes the CCP deems best.
I'm not sure China's system isn't better... for individual freedoms and liberties it is worse for sure... but for overall productivity, purpose, and ability to accomplish new and better achievements it is proving far better than our own currently, as it has gone from backwater nation, to surpassing America on all fronts (save military might) in just a quarter century.
I'm with you. We don't need another billionaire egotistically thinking he is the best person for the job.
You're right.
Instead, we need career politicians, beholden to corporations, billionaires and party leaders for their job, and willing to perform as those entities wish rather than thinking of the country. We need people interested primarily in padding their wallets rather than the needs of the people or country. We need people in lockstep with the party that paid for their election. We need more of the what we have, and what got a billionaire elected in other words.
(Sarcasm, if you didn't catch it)
We need a genuine populist, not a fake con man.
Absolutely. Being popular is so much more important than actually understanding what is needed. One must, for instance, be well groomed, have nice hair and statesman like speech patterns in order to be popular; understanding the needs of the country pale beside such things.
What else could it be? You've complained incessantly that your president isn't another politician of the same mold, you continually promote politicians that are the same, and forever cry about the president's speech habits, while claiming no one likes him. He isn't popular (to you and your group) and you don't like that.
From Mirriam Webster:
Definition of populist (Entry 1 of 2)
1: a member of a political party claiming to represent the common people
That fits Trump to a "T" (as it does every politician on the Hill), but I don't think that's what you meant.
You really think Elizabeth Warren, my first choice, is in the same mold as a typical politician? Or Bernie, my second choice? I know you like to falsely characterize my positions to make it easier on yourself, but I support candidates who didn't take corporate money. That, in my book, makes them populist.
Trump is nothing but a lying con man grifter using the government to enrich himself and his family,
But, whatever. You'll believe otherwise no matter what.
LOL Not taking corporate donations to election campaigns is your personal definition of "populist"? No wonder I didn't understand the comment!
Sigh...you know better than that but you're not actually trying to honestly communicate. That is clear. Not accepting corporate money or massive donations from the uber wealthy is a sign you want to represent the common people, don't you think?
But, it's clear you're not really trying to have an honest conversation.
"Not accepting corporate money or massive donations from the uber wealthy is a sign you want to represent the common people".
Well, I concur, Panther, seems as clear as crystal to me.
That's because you didn't follow the thread.
https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/347 … ost4133686
PP wants a "populist" president. I commented that being popular was not a good reason to be president, and she took exception to that, sarcastically indicating that wasn't what she meant. Now she says she meant someone that doesn't take corporate money, that that's what "populist" means.
Of course it doesn't, by any definition except her own...but it's me that isn't trying to actually communicate. Because, you know, making up new definitions for old words is how best to communicate what you mean.
Why did you assume that "populist" meant "popular"? It doesn't yet you claim that's what I meant. Hence, my conclusion that you are not communicating honestly.
Also, I did not define "populist" as someone who does not take corporate money. I said not taking corporate money is an indication of wanting to represent the common man, which is what a populist claims to do.
Yep, this is similar to that stupid WMD thing, more of your petty games.
"Why did you assume that "populist" meant "popular"?
It fits with the definition; candidates try to appeal to the common people, meaning they are popular there. And it was all I could think of that you might mean.
"...I support candidates who didn't take corporate money. That, in my book, makes them populist."
Your statement. Is there any other way to interpret that than "populist" means not taking corporate money? Surely you aren't trying to say that to be populist means you must support them?
PP, you played games when you made a statement and then didn't like what you said, trying to claim you meant something else. Now you're trying to backtrack on even that, claiming again that you didn't say what you did.
Not I.
But it is a fruitless discussion at this point. You didn't mean what you said, I took it to mean what the words meant. A failure in communication, then, and no reason to pursue it further.
"...I support candidates who didn't take corporate money. That, in my book, makes them populist."
Your statement. Is there any other way to interpret that than "populist" means not taking corporate money?
Logical fallacy.
And I'm now stepping out of your game.
"Not taking corporate donations to election campaigns is your personal definition of "populist"?
As part of the definition it is a damned good start.
From Mirriam Webster:
Definition of populist (Entry 1 of 2)
1: a member of a political party claiming to represent the common people
Do you see anything about taking corporate money there? Or in any dictionary definition you care to present?
a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
That is the definition I get from Websters for populist
I think that both Sanders or Warren can fit into that category. It would follow that such a candidate would walk the talk by not taking money from the established elite groups as a way of showing their independence from such groups and their agendas.
"Not taking corporate donations to election campaigns is your personal definition of "populist"?
I can't find any portion of that definition that concerns corporate donations.
I also pointed out that every politician, ever, fits into the definition you gave (#2 on the MW site, as I recall). Warren, Bernie, Biden and yes, even Trump. They ALL try to be what the "disenfranchised" want them to be. Along with being what the rest of the electorate wants as well.
No, it does NOT follow that they would "walk the talk" of a very small minority, throwing their chance of election away. We both know, as do the candidates, that vast amounts of money are necessary in this insane world to be elected President of the US.
"Striving" has to mean more than just "talk", it has to be backed up with a track record and current action.
The only common person Trump is interested in is Trump and as my late aunt would say, he is quite "common"
Wilderness, among the democratic candidates running, they all said the "right things" about the "common people" and such, but who was willing to put their own skin in the game but not taking Establishment donations and being subject to threats from Wall Street and the Corporate class regarding their candidacy and yet still were defiant? Those are candidates that are the real McCoy and have my support.
As Panther says, populist is more than just any word, it is an all encompassing position and attitude and those not true to that are quickly identified, like Donald j. Trump.
This is getting foolish. Show me, then, where the MW definition says a candidate must perform actions, acceptable to you, in order to claim they are appealing to the common people.
President Trump fits the definition exactly. Exactly! He claims to represent the "American People" (just as every candidate does) and that is the MW definition (go back and look at the #1 in their list of two).
For that matter, if you want actions: Trump tried to take on China to stop intellectual theft (help the common man here, including you and I). He tried to slow illegal border crossings, helping every citizen in the country. He did everything he could (successfully) to provide jobs...for the common man. If actions are what you want to use, rather than the words, then Trump is absolutely "populist". He even gave us all a tax break, based on how much we were paying - a more fair way to get us ALL something could not be found.
Perhaps, from your perspective Trump qualifies, but not for me.
Our heroes and patriots/ villains are ALWAYS going to differ in my perspectives verses your own. It is just a fact of life.
Of course he doesn't qualify to you, for you refuse to acknowledge any good that he has done. In addition you are re-writing the definition (as PP did) to suit your own needs - needs which are primarily to demonize Trump regardless of his positive accomplishments.
Don't mean to demonize the man, but it is as you once said about Obama,"he never did anything right".
Really? You're stretching things pretty badly, for I'm sure I never said any such thing. On the contrary, Obama DID do some things right, just as Trump has. Not many, IMO, just as your opinion is that Trump has done little right (you deny that the others happen or that he was responsible for them as far as I can see).
"he never did anything right"
You did say it, I was careful to make a note of it at the time.
Again, what constitutes doing things right depends on your point of view.
Yes, it depends on viewpoint. For those, for example, desiring a nanny state operating under socialist principles of govt. ownership of all wealth, Obama did right with the biggest giveaway in the history of the world. For those that value and desire individual responsibility and ownership, it was a flat out flop. And for those actually looking at the results it was also a flop, for virtually no one was helped, but costs were enormous for everyone.
That OK, that is how you define it. I and others say otherwise...
I don't like oligarchs and plutocrats, but I have explained my position as a Democrat and progressive before, I cannot expect you to neither to understand or appreciate my position. Just be aware that I am not the only one holding to such views....
And the problem, you fail to see what the Democrats (the ones in power in DC) actually represent...
Ultimately, what the Democrats (even more than the Republicans) represent TODAY (as opposed to 30 years ago) is Globalism, Corporatism, and subservience to China (the CCP).
The Republicans, have shifted since Trump's election (hence why so many Republicans did not run for re-election, including the House Speaker at the time) to being more of a Libertarian, Nationalism, to hell with China and the UN party.
All the other issues are really immaterial save for when it comes time to drum up support and votes, such as Abortion, Reparations, 2nd Amendment... these are all real issues, I'm not saying that they are not... what I am saying is that the people holding real power could care less about them, the bigger goals are the dissolution of people's rights, dissolution of national power (in favor of International bodies like the WB, IMF, UN, etc.), and the removal of the Dollar as the World's reserve for one that the CCP can control.
You will have what you want Credence, it is inevitable, but it will not be the way you want it, it will not be the way you picture it.
"minorities" will not be elevated in America, they will not ever be more equal, or ever have more opportunity than they do today... none of us will.
The Elites will remain the elites, and those who are not will be equal in our lessening of opportunity, lessening of our liberties. All you have to do is look to what is going on in China, in France, in England to see our future.
A version of China's Social Credit System is upon us, that will make us all equal Credence, all equally controlled, all equally restricted, this is the future being held at bay for another year? A few more years?
Hard to tell really, it does appear that Trump is standing in the way of America's acquiescing to this Global totalitarian existence, as would be evidenced in his speech to the UN (a year or so back) and his efforts to thwart China from ever more invasive moves into our society (ie Huawei) and our security.
But Trump will only be around for so long, and then this dystopian future will fast come into reality for all America.
Is this going to be like the definition of WMD? A colossal waste of time.
Anyone can claim to represent the common man. One must watch what they do to judge their authenticity. Bernie and Warren beat Dishonest Don hands down in that regard.
No $#!t! Donny would be the last person to represent the common people.....except many of the common people never realized this fact when they voted for him.
"Trump is nothing but a lying con man grifter using the government to enrich himself and his family"
I second that....
Do you actually think that Trump REALLY understands the needs of the country?
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