While it hasn't been confirmed yet, I have heard rumors that Kamala Harris could be Joe Biden's running mate in the 2020 election. First of all, does anyone know if that's true? And assuming it does happen, then do you think having her as his Vice presidential candidate increases or decreases his chances at beating Trump in this year's election?
I think he may choose Congresswoman Val Demings. Something about her demeanor and her background in law enforcement might give her the edge Plus she represents Florida, can't hurt...
The pundits have been saying that Ms. Harris is Biden's likely choice, but there has risen many questions about her loyalty and ambition as being counterproductive for a "running mate".
For me, her policy stances and background do not resonate much with me as a progressive.
But, I am somewhat biased, it is only fair that I reveal that.
While she is not Black, in the areas of policy and understanding the structural bias that works within this society, and her willingness to get to the root of things, I consider her an honorary member.
... heard it could be Michele. As in Mrs. Obama.
I hope not. I just have a bad feeling about a celebrity mindset regarding Biden's choice.
What do you think about Congresswoman Val Demings as his choice? I think she would balance out the ticket. She is down the middle and slightly left, very sensible, so not sure the party would go for her.
Yes, she will comfort many which is more toward Biden's moderate style than that of a progressive firebrand which is what I want.
These are perilous times, and experience and qualifications for any VP candidate needs to be greater than that expected in the past.
To move Washington and the "system" beyond "business as usual" will take a lot of heft, that would not come from a junior legislator.
I consider all this, our current economic and political climate, to be akin to a major conflict and I need seasoned and determined soldiers to win the day.
Warren is the only choice that I can see would alleviate the distrust of Joe Biden and his approach by the progressive wing of the party.
Representative Demmings selection may fill many blocks, but still leave many more unaddressed.
I think it is a time in history that we have a black woman represent the black people of the nation, bringing her experiences in law enforcement along with her. Plus, she can represent the many problems of systemic racism.
I would think Warren being well-known for panderer would be a poor choice for the black community. She is one that would certainly offer the black of the country lots of free stuff. But this is what has been being done for decades by the DEm's. You might want to consider, free stuff has not worked to bring about the needed changes you seek...
Just my opinion , but I think Warren would set black American's back, not bring them forward.
Sharlee, here is more of my reasoning
An excerpt from an NBC article
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e … enotenough
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Jorden Giger, a 29-year-old teacher and Black Lives Matter activist in South Bend, Indiana, disagreed. While he understands the need for a diverse ticket, he wants Biden to pick Warren.
“Descriptive representation is not enough. It's not enough just to have a Black face in a high place,” Giger said by phone. “We need someone to actually champion our positions in a real way and she's the best there is.”
Giger argued that Warren’s policy record, such as crafting the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and her aggressive oversight of Wall Street, shows she’s “ready on day one” and resembles what the Black community needs.
In a Morning Consult poll last month, 24 percent of Black voters said a Warren pick would make them more likely to vote for Biden, while 19 percent said the same of a Harris pick.
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White folks always tell us that the candidates the are our best bet would "set us back"
Ms. Demmings does not have Warren's track record on dealing with the systemic issues.
It is not about free stuff, changing the systemic are more involved. The concept of "free stuff" is not new for certain entities within this society, they have been traditional and expected. Warren main theme is that the Government is not for sale.
Like I said I respect your opinion, and let me add I see your logic.
Please check out the facts on what she has and has really not done on Government site. I don't think you will be happy with her one you see factually she supported very little that would address any for of systemic racial problem. Education, housing, law enforcement has been low on her list... she has a very poor voting record only showing up about 50 % of the times to vote. Kamala Harris missed was 3rd most absent in votes compared to All Senators Harris missed 61.9% bill voting. Val missed voting 3 out of over 700 bills 0.04%.
Take the time and get to know her factual record. This is the only way to really get to know how she operates. She panders, promises just about anything she feels her crowd wants to hear. Her time in Washinton shows she is a poor representative of the state she represents.
Lots of information but key in on the bill she has presented. This should give you an idea about her as a representative. When reviewing use sort box oldest dates. She entered the office in 2013. Please note most bills were proposed from 2016 on, before that year she put much of nothing forward. When she got the bug to run for office one can recognize she started putting forth bills.
Check out Bills Sponsored
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Warren Sponsored Bills
Issue Areas
Warren sponsors bills primarily in these issue areas:
"Health (28%) Armed Forces and National Security (23%) Finance and Financial Sector (13%) Government Operations and Politics (10%) Education (8%) Labor and Employment (7%) Taxation (6%) Crime and Law Enforcement (5%)"
Her interests are obvious. I think the bottom of her list would be very important to all American's. Your hooking your wagon to a snake oil saleswoman. Study the facts of how she has spent her time. And you mentioned going after wall street which is big business. Do you really feel that going after big business after our reasons economy crash would benefit anyone? It would result in loss of jobs, wages staying stagnant, and loss of Federal taxes due to loss of jobs, and businesses pulling up stakes and some even leaving the country once again. I would think all should realize by now, going after banks and big business never works out well for the country. Plus now I see she may not be offering free stuff at all. She is a disaster.
Hey, you are a hard sell... LOL, I am a Trumper, and here I find myself trying to pick Joe a perfect VP. Go figure.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/member … ren/412542
Just like Trump supporters over look his character and personality flaws, they support him for what they see as the "big picture". Such is my attitude about Liz Warren. She gets the "big picture" for me and other progressives. I know her factual record and I am satisfied over her years of service of "walking the talk" that she fits the bill. From my perspective, I have to ask, "what does the election of someone like Donald Trump bring to the table"?
I said the same thing about Trump as autocratic, petty, dishonest, superficial, etc.
I am satisfied with my choice, imperfections and all, as I am a progressive voter.
She thinks the way I think.
I support her CFPB Consumer Finance Protection Board idea as allowing common people to hold corporations accountable for abusive activities that they themselves would not be able to pursue because of prohibitive costs of litigation, and the big shots know that.
Why did you think that they work so hard to "deep six" it. In my world, no one gets to operate without oversight and being held accountable for their actions. I am not going to protect the corporate class and allow them to do or get away with whatever they like. That's Warren stand and that's me.
We have laws and boundaries already in place. If we can just follow the laws/enforce them, we don't need the likes of her.
... such as those laws against monopolies which no one wants to glance at.
We have laws and boundaries already in place regarding corruption from Washington to Wall street. If we can just follow the laws/enforce them, we don't need the likes of her.
Such as those laws against monopolies which no one wants to glance at.
Such as the Glass-Steagal act which Clinton removed.
I liked most of her proposals and want them implemented, all the same. I am not satisfied as time and time again, laws are not enforced or taken seriously. So, I say that she is an asset, regardless.
she has the right spirit and attitude and she gets my vote.
... you are not afraid of becoming a democratic socialist country ... or worse?
nope, not really, as far as I am concerned we already are for the corporate class and the more affluent among us.
The idea of becoming a Venezuela or Sweden is ridiculous as this clearly is a capitalist system. I want safeguards placed to prevent abuses from such a system, that is hardly socialism.
I don't trust the laissez faire capitalist advocates to allow the system to operate without oversight. I never have.
You don't have to agree with it, but myself and millions of others have not dismissed those thoughts out of hand.
There has never been a time that would prove you more right than now.
This pandemic has resulted in the transfer of TRILLIONS of dollars to Banks and Billionaires, when the dust settles, the gap between the lower 80% and the top 1% will be greater than ever, easily doubling what it was a mere decade ago.
I certainly will and have applauded Warren for the CFPB. It has worked to help so many.
You asked what Trump brought ton the table. I can only speak how he benefited my life. His economy benefited greatly due to the stock market. That aside, I really feel he has made some good trade deals, made things a lot better for the military, and provide so many people with job opportunities. I appreciate many things he has accomplished including solving a bit of the immigration problem. I have faith he will help the dreamers become citizens with a good pathway. He just this week has been working with the heads of Pharmaceutical companies tp bring down drug prices. When you talk about being progressive, I don't think any president in decades has really rolled up his sleeves and made attempts to solve some of our very big injustices. I find it very sad so many have not noted his work, his accomplishments.
But I understand your thoughts, the strong alliance you have formed with your party of choice It's admirable. I hope you get your wish, and Biden chooses Warren. She is progressive, and Val Demings does not appear to be at all progressive.
I have heard about Trump's negotiation with the pharmaceuticals and I give credit where it is due. But that in itself is not enough for me to vote for him.
CFPB was a bold and courageous step toward challenging and curbing unwarranted power and influence
Yes, I am among the worse and most adamant of the West coast liberals. I hope that I get my wish too, but with Joe, who knows?
Thanks....
"But, I am somewhat biased, it is only fair that I reveal that."
Now that brought a chuckle. *psst. It wasn't as much of a "reveal" as you think it was Cred. ;-)
GA
Which VP male candidate would be a good running mate for Joe?
Adam Schiff?
Bernie Sanders?
I don't think Kamala will sit back and be very cooperative or quiet.
I think Elizabeth could bide her time better, but she's not black ...
or maybe she is!!!!
Personally, I think Biden should select Nickie Halley just so I can have the pleasure of watching both Democrat and Republican heads spin around like Linda Blair in the Exorcist.
Well, he could actually ask Obama to be his VP. No law against it.
"Calhoun (1825–1832) served under John Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson. Additionally, neither the Constitution's eligibility provisions nor the Twenty-second Amendment's presidential term limit explicitly disqualifies a twice-elected president from serving as vice president."
Not sure he would win. I mean I think Obama had so many American's disillusioned it lead to Trump's win. I know Hillary has not added that to her long list of why she did not win. But, she may want to.
Oh no. I predict a landslide if Michele gets picked.
Hilary WOULD'NT DARE!
And the Democrats would totally stoop to bringing in Michele.
Oh yes, they would.
After all, don't they believe that if beloved President Obama had been able to run a third term he would have won?
... and if he had won, all this misery we have been experiencing the ENTIRE last four years could have been avoided?
oh, interesting! I was thinking of his wife. If it is allowed, that would be an excellent male choice!
My wife is convinced this will be the pick as well, Michelle that is.
Considering Obama's 'impromptu' (perhaps improper as well) political rant at Lewis' funeral service, I am thinking either Obama may be Biden's choice (well those pulling his strings, I doubt Biden even gets to choose what color Jello he is served, let alone who will be his VP).
Legalities of it aside (who is following the law these days when it comes to politics anyways... we have businesses donating as people, we have mail in ballots... I mean, come on, there are no rules that can't be broken anymore)... it would likely be a clear road to victory for the Dems.
Can you really see K. Harris standing respectfully near Joe Biden?
.. and what if he accidentally pats her hand or gently hugs her on camera,
wouldn't she become unglued on the spot?
Michele would just hug him back.
Why I think so, I don't know. She just seems more easy going, ( ... or able to patiently endure.)
And then once she's in office, it will be, "I am in, so is Barak!"
( ... which Bill Clinton told supporters when campaigning for his wife: "When Hilary is in the White House, I'll be there too!")
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