Hatred: A politically-correct word?

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  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    Do the Democrats and the liberals who hate Trump feel it is right to do so?
    Isn't hatred the root of racism?

    It seems they preach love and hate
    at the same time!

    Is it just fine to hate?


    Wondering

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Isn't hatred the root of racism?

      Perhaps you need to closely look at your side of the ideological divide and answer your own question.

      1. MizBejabbers profile image90
        MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Right, since Trump stirs up so much hatred, why would it be politically incorrect to hate him?

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Please, please, PLEASE tell me how you think President Donald Trump stirs up "so much" hatred?

          Specific incidents include ------>

          1. MizBejabbers profile image90
            MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I googled "Trumps ramblings on antifa" and came up with a whole page of stories. So I chose this one as an example: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu … -1.8902330

            1. GA Anderson profile image92
              GA Andersonposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Your choice for a supporting link was surprising. The only point I could agree with is that Antifa is an ideology rather than a distinct organization.

              Otherwise . . .speaking of ramblings . . .

              GA

              1. MizBejabbers profile image90
                MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                At least you have some kind of view of antifa. Most people have no clue. Just that it's bad because Trump says so.

                1. GA Anderson profile image92
                  GA Andersonposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I think it is bad. I just don't think there is an organized hub that connects all the spokes of Antifa groups. It is an idea/belief that individual groups pick-up, not an organization

                  GA

                2. Readmikenow profile image98
                  Readmikenowposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  That was one of the most bizarre things I've ever read.  Antifa is the group that tried to keep well-known Jewish conservative Ben Shapiro from speaking at Berkley.  Too many people are gullible about their name.  Antifa is a fascist organization. 

                  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat … 669071001/

                  https://reason.com/2017/08/28/antifa-at … arsely-api

                  1. The Masked Marauder profile image78
                    The Masked Marauderposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Your statement cantains a well known mistake employed on both the Left and the Right. Correct someone's English skills. It's BERKELEY Mike. I would know, I attended college there. Sorry. And Antifa is NOT an organization. If they are, please provide genuine evidence on a bonafide website or any other proof. Try Wells Fargo as an example.

            2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              I asked how do YOU think Trump stirs up so much hatred.

              1. MizBejabbers profile image90
                MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Kathryn, I research articles and the news before I form an opinion. I don't just dig the cartoons and spiteful postings on Facebook and listen to one side of the so-called news. I'm not a follower of them, but I don't think he's correct about ANTIFA. I don't approve of his treatment of women and his ridiculing the disabled. I am a former journalist and reporter anchor for a regional broadcast network from back when the news was real journalism, not hearsay and rabid postings. I have two degrees in journalism from the years when journalists were taught to listen to both sides of the story, not just take one and beat it to death. I've been accused of being "a liberal" (liberal is not a four-letter word, by the way) but I'm really not. I'm more of a centrist. I don't like pure socialism and I don't like the Tea Party. I didn't like the Moral Majority either. I thought "Immoral Majority" fit them better and thought the U.S. would see daylight when they finally got rid of the likes of Pat Robertson and Whats-His-Name from Liberty University. But I do like to see some sanity in our government. If you read one of my posts, you may have noticed that I paid my state's Republican governor a compliment on the way he's handled Covid-19 in our state. I'll say it again. Kudos to you Governor Hutchison on your handling of the pandemic. So sometimes you may even find me on your side of the fence.

                1. Readmikenow profile image98
                  Readmikenowposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Interesting, you still didn't answer the question by Kathryn.

            3. savvydating profile image91
              savvydatingposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Wow! Came in late to this thread so forgive me, but I read your article link and could not help but notice how outstandingly bad it is. The article is beyond absurd. And yet you were a properly trained, non-biased journalist? How interesting.

              So Trump, who is Israel's best friend, who is brokering a deal in the middle east, whose son-in-law is a Jew, whose grandchildren are Jewish, whose daughter has converted to Judaism, is a Jew-hater, according to  the author of the article. Is that what we are to believe? What nonsense.

              I do think the author of the article let his hatred get the better of him, and I also believe that anyone who states that hating someone is not "politically incorrect" is wrong to do so when that someone, namely, the president, has done so much good for minorities. As the "objective" reporter you claim to be, you should know that better than anyone. It's called research. It's what reporters do.

              In the long run, hatred never wins, not for anyone. Antifa's hatred is visceral. Supporting them is foolish. They advocate for violence and destruction. They say so.

          2. Sychophantastic profile image89
            Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            You mean like start with "grab 'em by the pu**y" and go from there? In terms of hatred? When somebody treats you like trash, hatred naturally follows.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              ... and nothing he has done since has made any impact on you.
              Wow.

              I guess you are hard to impress and are yourself, perfectly prim and proper. 
              So many do not understand the underlying points of his witty and audacious comments. His underlying points are based on common sense and he probably couldn't fathom that people would not understand or comprehend them.

              Sadly, so many people just don't get his humor and his logic which absolutely go hand in hand.

              1. Sychophantastic profile image89
                Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Could you translate your response into some kind of non-senile English?

                Seems pretty clear when you advocate for men to grab women by the pu**y, some people are not going to see that as humor. When you wish a known child sex-trafficker well because you hung out with her and her boyfriend and probably had sex with underage girls, yes, people are going to hate you.

                That barely scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Continue! Please do! Apparently, I am a Polly Anna and need to become more aware.
                  .

                  1. Sychophantastic profile image89
                    Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Did he not wish a known child sex-trafficker well? Did he not hang out with Jeffrey Epstein?

        2. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Hating Trump wastes energy, so don't get mad, get even.

          He simply has got to go and wasting time on meaningless gestures won't get us there any faster.

          1. MizBejabbers profile image90
            MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Maybe we have to love him because he is our fellow man as Jesus said to love our brother, but we don't have to like him.

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Perhaps, but I don't have to love that he is the President of the United States, my "love" is not required to extend that far.....

              He can con NBC for another season of Celebrity Apprentice" that is where he belongs.

          2. Ken Burgess profile image88
            Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Sometimes reality is just too damned funny.

            Good Ol'Boy Biden... over 40 years in DC... palls with some of "the best Senators to ever serve this great nation", as detailed below:

            https://theblacksphere.net/2019/06/demo … of-racism/

            And Kamala Harris, ruthless AG, who wreaked havoc on minorities in CA, a descendant of Slave owners. 

            In this politically charged atmosphere where every white person is considered a descendant of a slave owner (of which 98% are NOT... its far more likely they are descendants of Indentured Servants).

            And we aren't talking some small connection to Slavery, oh no:

            "Democrat presidential candidate Kamala Harris is descended from Irish slave owner Hamilton Brown, the namesake of Brown’s Town in Jamaica.

            Kamala Harris’ father Donald Harris wrote an essay entitled “Reflections of a Jamaican Father” for Jamaica Global Online, in which he made a startling admission:

            “My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town) and to my maternal grandmother Miss Iris (née Iris Finegan, farmer and educator, from Aenon Town and Inverness, ancestry unknown to me).  The Harris name comes from my paternal grandfather Joseph Alexander Harris, land-owner and agricultural ‘produce’ exporter (mostly pimento or all-spice), who died in 1939 one year after I was born and is buried in the church yard of the magnificent Anglican Church which Hamilton Brown built in Brown’s Town."

            "Hamilton Brown owned several plantations over the years 1817 to about 1845. According to the 1818 Almanac which can be found on this site, (Jamaican Family Search) , he was the owner of Minard (128 slaves), [on another plantation] his ownership (124 slaves). The other register (86 slaves) cannot be assigned to any estate, although he is listed in Almanacs for subsequent years as owning several."

            https://nationalfile.com/kamala-is-desc … -the-race/

            Its amazing how anyone, who believes in Civil Rights or Progressive Ideals can still support the Establishment party of racial divide and subjugation (AKA the Democratic Party)... the Party, the Establishment goes out of its way to pick two people who have more racist baggage than anything they could ever dig up on Trump.

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Don't get me wrong, Ken. Neither Joe Biden or Kamela Harris would have been my choices.

              Conservatives love to paint them both as representing the radical left. As a progressive, they are still too far to the right for my comfort. From my perspective they are viewed upon with suspicion, but at least I can be sure that most of my grievances with the Republicans and the Right would not be exacerbated in a Biden administration.

              When I read how the Trump administration has taken much of the teeth from the EEOC to punish those involved in racial discrimination lawsuits, or watering down the EPA by putting someone in charge that is against its very mission, those are examples of moving backwards. There are many reasons that the GOP rubs me the wrong way, and those gaps can never be closed over any one issue. As, I have a bone to pick with them on virtually everything they stand for. So, it not just one area or another, it's everything.

              I can document these trends if you like...

              As far as I am concerned Trump is pretty bad. I can't hold Kamela Harris forebears responsible for who she is now. Don' attempt to compare this to my grievances regarding this society and legacy of slavery therein.

              "In this politically charged atmosphere where every white person is considered a descendant of a slave owner (of which 98% are NOT... its far more likely they are descendants of Indentured Servants)."

              This, I would like to have documented as to the source.

              From everything you state, Trump and the RePUBLICANS, the ideology and track record within contemporary times have proved them to be more dangerous to me and my broad array of interests, overall.

              There are plenty of people who dislike Trump personally, but stick to him as he represents maintaining a Republican Party philosophy of government which for them supercedes their personal dislike of the man. Do you believe that we Democrats can reason on the same basis?

              1. The Masked Marauder profile image78
                The Masked Marauderposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                "Broad array of interests," I like that. I'm going to steal it, if you don't mind. What a great, intelligent, non-threatening answer. I could use that every election from top to bottom. Thanks.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  "This, I would like to have documented as to the source."

                  Don't have a source, but...given that there were very few slave owners in the North, given that that's where the majority of the population was, given the enormous influx of immigrants AFTER slavery was illegal, given that even in the "slave states" of the south, the large majority of people did NOT own slaves...given all that it seems apparent that the huge majority of people living in the US did NOT have a slave owner in their past 500 years of ancestry. Now if you want to go back a few thousand years you will likely find that nearly everyone in the world (including black folks) had one or more.

                2. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Thanks for the kudos, MM.

            2. MizBejabbers profile image90
              MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              It appears that you skipped over the chapters in history about the carpetbaggers and the Republican party. They didn't exactly elevate the black race, just further tore down the white race. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. No pun intended. Unless that's your aim, of course.

      2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        ... don't we all agree? Hatred is the root of racism

        1. Sychophantastic profile image89
          Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Nope. Hatred is not the root of racism. The root of racism is the belief that those of another race are inferior to you.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            What is it called when those of another race think others are racist and hate them for it ... even if the others were never racist and truly accepted them just fine.

            A race is a just a race, after all!

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Totally delusional. That's what you call it.

              1. Sychophantastic profile image89
                Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Not sure what goes on in your greeting card mind, but whatever.

          2. MizBejabbers profile image90
            MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            And then comes hatred after that.

          3. Ken Burgess profile image88
            Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Hey man, don't you know?
            They done declared war on Whitey.
            What you think the ultimate goal of all this down with Western Civ, BLM, Open Borders, is leading us to?
            You think they gonna let up on the white man?
            Hell no, the march of Progressivism won't stop until White Priv is destroyed.
            And the only way you can destroy White Priv is to destroy all whites, their society, their history, all of it.
            Don't you listen to Oprah, she's had to fight racism all her life!
            That's why she is only worth 3 Billion dollars, the white man kept her down!
            White racism is why Obama only won the Presidency twice!
            If it weren't for White Priv and their idiotic rules he would still be President!
            Their laws are nothing more than oppression.
            Its a right for POC to Loot businesses and burn down homes.
            That's restitution!

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Ken, before you get over the top with this comment, let's put things in proper perspective, shall we?

              https://www.businessinsider.com/black-b … tes-2020-2

              Why aren't there not more black billionaires relative to the white ones in this "opportunity society"?

              Statistics would favor more than 0.9 percent. 615 white billionaires compared with just 6 black ones. What sort of advantage could explain such widely disparate statistics? When those numbers improve, then your arguments would make more sense. Until the structural disadvantages that is shown in this one example is improved upon, the struggle and protests shall continue.

              White privelege should be destroyed. You talk about merit and hard work, we know the outcomes in this case and in many others can not be explained away so simply. To minimize that advantage and compensate for it would constitute a large part toward restitution.

              While it is noteworthy that so many whites did not let race affect their votes, if it were not for non-white voters, Obama would have not won in 2008 or 2012.
              --------------
              But, in all fairness, Ken the statistics are more representative among the ranks of millionaires.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image88
                Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                We have discussed this at great length over the course of the years.

                And while that comment was facetious, it was a fair reflection of this moment in time.

                Lets consider how things were..

                Where was this country in 1960?

                How about 1970?

                1980?  90? 00? 10? ...Now?

                Today we have scholarships for minorities that do not exist for Whites.

                We have Grants, Home Lending programs, Social Supports for minorities that do not exist for whites.

                We have laws today that work to counter discrimination (in the 60s we had laws that worked to enforce discrimination).

                The pendulum has swung so far the other way, that Universities like Harvard and Yale openly discriminate against Whites and Asians, and flip off the authorities that find them guilty of it.

                IE - https://www.npr.org/2020/08/13/90233542 … admissions

                So we have come to a point in America's history where the Laws, and the Systemic Programs, and the Universities, all favor the Minority over the White.

                This is the TRUTH of today... its verifiable.

                So when today's America is burned to the ground, when today's system is broken.  Who is really going to be hurt?

                Now that minorities have all the things those that marched and fought in the 1960s wanted... equal opportunity, equal rights, laws that don't discriminate... it seems its not enough.

                Reparations are wanted, Whites need to submit to subjugation and intoleration, Looting businesses and homes is now a Right...

                Oh.. you say you don't support it, only you do, you will vote for the politicians that encourage these groups intent on the destruction of our society, that encourage intolerance and racism... its good right?

                But you have to wonder, where its all going to go, and who is going to ultimately benefit from it, and pay for it.

                1. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Part of that is restitution for the net worth income gap as this information alludes to, and this is not the only source referencing.it.

                  https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front … ealth-gap/

                  I did not say dismantle the system but make adjustments.

                  Whites on the average have had a great head start obtained at the expense of others.

                  Keep what the improvements from the 1960s on, continue and don't allow for backsliding which has been identified by Trump and GOP's lack of support of the federal agencies enforcing  and maintaining the progress that we have been supposed to have made.

                  Remember when a house of cards is tumbled it is the one at the top that fall furthest and hardest.

                  I vote for politicians that support a majority of my policy interests if not all, so it is more than unidimensional. I will not support GOP that have clearly work against almost everything that I support. No more than you would support Democrats, your reality and mine are quite different.

                  1. Ken Burgess profile image88
                    Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Yes we have different perspectives.

                    I had a Temp worker (Temp Agency employee) come barging into the Security office one day where I worked.

                    The Security Officer on the shift before me, hours earlier, asked him if he had gotten his ID when he saw him.

                    The Temp said, no, and asked where it was.

                    The Security Officer said, Oh, I thought someone had given it to you because its not on the shelf anymore.

                    Days earlier this Temp employee had dropped his ID (lost it), someone turned it in, and now it was missing from the Security Office.

                    So, back to him coming into the Security Office when I was there, he asked for his ID, I looked for it, didn't find it, told him I had no idea where it was.

                    He didn't tell me at that time he had already talked to the other Security Officer on an earlier shift, so I called him at home and asked him where it was, he said he didn't know.

                    So then he began demanding that I find it, that I look through the security recordings from the cameras (of which there are many), and being a bit too assertive.

                    I told him, he had no authority here, and he needed to leave the office, he refused and made more demands.

                    I told him I could have the Sheriffs office remove him if he'd like (they were right around the corner) he said fine, do that, he wanted to make a statement, etc.

                    Eventually it got to the point where he said I was hassling him and giving him a hard time because he was Black.

                    I chose a less harmful (to him) means of having him removed the office, due to its restricted nature his removal could have been accompanied by severe federal penalties if the police had been involved, so I called the FSO instead and we got him to leave

                    When I had a chance to talk to him, hours later, I said:  Put yourself in my shoes, you are the security officer,  in your security office, it is a restricted area... and I come barging in and start demanding things of you.  How would you react?

                    Interestingly enough... he never took responsibility for losing his own ID.

                    He transferred the blame of it being lost, onto me and Security.

                    He never took responsibility for his illegal entry in the Security Office.

                    My reaction to his being there was based on his race.

                    A microcosm for what is going on in today's world, no one taking responsibility for their own actions, no one wanting to be held accountable, blaming others for their own mistakes, and if you counter them in any way it is racism, or sexism.

                    Its not going to get better... the mindset of these younger people, the outlandish demands of these groups "Looting is Restitution!"  "All Whites are Racist and Privileged!" is only going to bring more hardship,

                    No society could long stand such division and insanity.

            2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              I know. (All) whites are so oppressive. I guess they have been since the day the first slave ship arrived from Africa, the country responsible for the marketing their own people.

              After the civil war, Abraham Lincoln thought it best to send the freed slaves back to Africa, but the merchants who brought them weren't willing. Lincoln warned that they would someday demand reparations.

              I really think things were improving for all African Americans in this country, but no!! The BLM movement continues to pinpoint the negative. In so doing, they block all progress made by civil rights movements of the past and the improvements in race relations that have been made and continue to be made in this country. And Trump can be thanked for his contributions toward their positive economic momentum.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image84
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      "Do the Democrats and the liberals who hate Trump feel it is right to do so?
      Isn't hatred the root of racism?"

      Hate is the root of racism. And yes those that hate Trump feel it is justified due to truly disliking everything about the man. They feel his character is flawed as well as his morals, and dislike how he expresses himself. many also find his looks revolting.  They don't trust his judgement to lead

    3. peterstreep profile image80
      peterstreepposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I find it strange to bring the word hate into a political discussion. Just as you would bring the word love into a political discussion.
      You argue, come with arguments, points of view. They may be all different but strong emotions like hate or love don't come into a discussion.

      Hatred is not the root of racism. The root of racism is tribalism. My clan against yours. That does not automatically include hatred.

      To hate is pretty stupid as it does not resolve an issue. To hate somebody you have never met or spoken to personally is even more stupid.

      I think it's to easy to accuse somebody from hatred. As you kill a conversation by accusing somebody of such strong emotions.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    I am also wondering why the majority of the youth seem to hate Trump?
    I mean, why is Trump so unforgivable, especially when he has done so many worthwhile things for America?

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Again, that is your perspective, why don't you ask a few younger people and find out?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        I have, but I noticed they won't tell me what they  R E A L L Y  think.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          (The sixties/early seventies amped up, is what I think is going on.
          Now its hatred of those who are over thirty, rather than merely not trusting them ...

          maybe.)

          1. Credence2 profile image80
            Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

            They are probably asking, do you really want to know? Can you handle the truth? You might not like what you hear.

            Conservatives are known not to be good with subtle nuances, the reality of ambiguities within a world they see as only black and white.

          2. The Masked Marauder profile image78
            The Masked Marauderposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Kathryn. Neither you, Credence or myself are properly positioned to speak for the youth of this time. That said, perhaps some personal history might avail you in your statement "(The sixties/early seventies amped up, is what I think is going on.
            Now its hatred of those who are over thirty, rather than merely not trusting them". While your photo (and let me say that it is wonderful) might lead one to believe you actually experienced the 60's-70's my reading of your statements such as "You liberals are just wrong about Trump". denotes that you might have been there but were not involved in the social turmoil directly. That is not a judgement, but as one who was on the front lines in the protest of the unjust, undeclared Vietnam (war) conflict at Berkeley, I can tell you that today's youth's problems are, far and away, not remotely like the 60's-70's. For instance, college attendance in 1970 averaged $688 per year for in-state residents attending a public college or university compared to over $7300 now at the same schools. Price has increased accordingly by 1410%  to 3009 per cent!!!! The sales pitch is you need a college degree to be successful in todays job market. The takeaway is you're $200,000 in debt before you find a job that might pay, average, $60,000 per year. Meanwhile, back at the ranch.....oh, wait, you can't buy the ranch because you can't afford it with your school loans. Oh, by the way, if you suffer a catastrophic medical issue, your college loans aren't applicable to bankruptcy laws. Finally, in regard to all the comments about branding Liberals as Socialists, for the final time, SOCIALISM is not COMMUNISM! Hubpages is a Social Website. Facebook is a Social Network. If you use or collect Medicare or Social Security, it's to late for you. You're already a Socialist. Remember, there are two sides to every coin. Yours Sincerely, The Masked Marauder.

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              So, who is this masked man?

              We share a similar perspective, as far as I am concerned the Socialism so many here complain about is already here and has been here for some time as you made evident in your examples.

              The problem that I want to correct is the reality of this system when the fats cats hail capitalism as inviolate in regards to their profits while socializing their losses in public bail outs and "too big to fail" scenarios.

              1. The Masked Marauder profile image78
                The Masked Marauderposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                First and foremost, "who is this masked man"? LMAO Credence, finally, a Bugs Bunny Fan. I wholly expected to be sued by Warner Brothers before anyone recognized the reference. Yes, we are to some extent, kindred souls when it comes to politics. But you opened a can of worms with your statement alluding to the system when the "fats cats hail capitalism as inviolate in regards to their profits while socializing their losses in public bail outs and "too big to fail scenarios".  I respect your bravery in even bringing up the downfall of Democracy by way of vulture capitalism. Borrow money, buy the McMansion, two Lexus in the driveway, 90" HDMI TV in your own home theater and when they've tapped you out, take a bankruptcy and in two years we'll start you up all over. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. And for folks in need, on the lower end of the spectrum, want a credit card? We've got one for you. $1000 credit limit with an APR of 29%. Huh? Twenty nine cents on the dollar? The only thing they're missing is sending Tony Soprano to your door to break your legs if you don't pay up. Honestly, I don't need to do this and many here probably don't either. I'm going to cross the finish line with some change in my pocket because that's all Obama left me but you can be sure Trump and his minions aren't going to get the rest of it. I will be responding to your comment on my article soon. Until then, thank you for your insight and input. I look forward to many future articles from you and the conversations that ensue. Sincerely, The Masked Marauder.

                1. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Yes, sir, Marauder, I am a Looney Toons freak. I was supposed to have grown out of these cartoons. But now more than ever, it is nice to a have a laugh where I don't have to think about at whose expense am I laughing, unless there is a union of talking coyotes somewhere to whom I am being insensitive. This laughter is palliative. There is one of my articles (hubs) that salute the crazies from the old Warner Brothers animation studios.

                  Don't get me started on the credit card thing, it was a clever and sinister substitute by corporate Ameirca to hold back wages relative to the cost of living. You simply are not being paid enough to save so you can now 'charge it' at exorbitant interests rates. But people today  can be blamed somewhat for their attitude of instant gratification to always want now, what we once had to save for.

                  The utter futility of getting middle and working class people to realize that they are being taken by continuing to fight over a larger piece of the crumb that falls from the table of bounty.

                  I am looking forward to more of your comments, giving it to  em with both barrels.

            2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              well, Thanks, Mask Marauder. You are right. I graduated high school in 1972 and I wasn't big on politics at the time. I developed an understanding of philosophy by taking classes at the local Community College. I studied Social Science via The Federalist Papers, mostly.
              At the university, I studied Art, my true passion. I became a substitute teacher as I have always been very interested in the education of the youth.

              Today, I cannot fathom why young adults are so violent and interested in looting and carrying on. I suspect they are frustrated in trying to find a way to fit into today's society. Some of these people are just having trouble. They don't seem to feel included and students have huge student debt, as you mentioned. Is this the fault of the adults who really didn't/don't care about them?

              Consider the movies they have been exposed to, the education they have (or haven't) received, the technological games available for them to play, many so violent.

              We were just tying to get out of serving in a stupid war in Vietnam. Other than that, we pretty much had it all.

              1. MizBejabbers profile image90
                MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                "Today, I cannot fathom why young adults are so violent and interested in looting and carrying on."

                I don't know, Kathryn, but isn't it possible that these looters and rioters are just counterparts of the violent ones on the far right rather than typical liberals? We have the KKK and certain so-called survivor groups who are capable, if provoked, of getting violent. But these people of which you speak seem to be a particular group or groups who are trained by somebody to loot, burn, and otherwise cause trouble. I have seen some stories linking them to foreign nations such as Russia and certain Middle Eastern groups. I don't think, or at least I would like to not think, that they are typical American youth or millennials. Also, if you look at the looters, they seem to represent various races and age groups.
                Since I've retired, I don't have the opportunity to be around young people very much. And at work, they were mostly young professionals, both white and black. I respected these young people and they respected me and all of their elders at work who paid them respect. I didn't see this "don't trust anyone over 30." Of course, there are usually one or two in each group, young and older, who don't earn respect from anybody.
                As far as seeing disrespect for anyone over 30, I really thought this was a thing of the hippy age and that we had gotten over it. Are you and Mask Marauder telling me that this is not true? Not criticizing, just curious.

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  When I looked closely at the rioters in news clips on TV, I noticed young white women having a great time throwing things, tending to fires or whacking things with hockey sticks. In Portland they proclaim they are fighting the Feds and the whole Trump administration.

                  1. Live to Learn profile image78
                    Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Exactly. And when these privileged whites participating in the protests don't get their way you hear it in the video where they are shouting for someone to call the cops.

    2. Abby Slutsky profile image97
      Abby Slutskyposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I am not going to provide a comment that would indicate my personal preference. However, I think we already have a political civil war here. I would love to see the "United" back in our country's name. How sad that we are so biased for one side or the other that we no longer see the gray that overlaps both sides. If I had my way, we'd get rid of the parties and vote on issues. Too bad, we can't. I pray we will become Americans again instead of a nation of Democrats and Republicans. "Hate" is certainly on all sides. I love our country. May God Bless America.

  3. Live to Learn profile image78
    Live to Learnposted 11 months ago

    The hate we see from the far left is troubling. The fact that they think it is, somehow, righteous and morally superior does show them to be some sort of a cult. They mirror religious fanaticism, on so many levels.

    It does make you wonder. There doesn't appear to be rational thought or consideration for others in their behavior. It's like a two year old throwing a tantrum somehow gained a following. And the not so far left, itself,  just exacerbates the problem but pretending reality isn't reality.

    I think the not so far left just isn't bright enough to see that the groups labeled the far left despise them as much as any.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      They seem to be mesmerized by their peers like fish in a school: hypnotized by the flashing of so many shiny slivery scales reflecting the light of sunlight as they swim.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        ... but in the case of the left, its not true sunlight being reflected, its some  weird artificial light.

    2. MizBejabbers profile image90
      MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Good grief, this answer looks just like you've described the extreme right and Trump and his followers.

      1. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

        She has done just that...

      2. Live to Learn profile image78
        Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Of course. The far right is throwing paint on little old ladies, attacking people in wheel chairs and with walkers. They are the ones blocking police in buildings and attempting to set them on fire. They are the ones looting. All the while calling for the dismantling of the police. All while bullying anyone and everyone they can, claiming its all becauseof their moral superiority.

        Oh. My bad. That's the far left.

        1. MizBejabbers profile image90
          MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Now it's the right wings turn to give come supporting evidence. Last I saw, it was Trump making fun of disabled people. Peaceful supports were different. This bunch of professional rioters who loot and burn buildings are not part of the peaceful protests. They are bussed in from outside. This article focuses on both sides of the question:

          "While Trump and Barr have focused on Antifa, the FBI and other agencies are tracking groups from both the extremist right and left involved in the riots and attacks on police."

          https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics … index.html

          Both liberal and conservative media agree:

          From Fox News:According to multiple U.S. intelligence sources, law-enforcement officials in various departments nationwide and analysts monitoring the activity, the playbook in every city is almost the same: the peaceful protests are organized, and a point place is designated for people to gather in the daylight hours.

          But, as the night falls and thousands go home, the looting and discord are ignited by a fresh round of people camouflaged with dark clothing and masks, armed with spray paint for graffiti and sometimes homemade weapons, and their nefarious behavior continues well into the early hours.

          https://www.foxnews.com/us/george-floyd … ng-destroy

          1. Live to Learn profile image78
            Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Peaceful protests are fine. I supported the protest in Virginia for gun rights. But, the left is supporting the violence by not calling it out and pretending that somehow, any comments made by anyone they don't agree with are as heinous as the acts of the far left.

            1. MizBejabbers profile image90
              MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              I have not seen CNN or CBS doing that. I don't have time to add ABC and NBC to my list. Nor Fox, but I know where commentators like Tucker Carlson stand. He used to write for the Arkansas Democrat Gazette back when he was a nobody. Oh, he still is.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                ... hardly.

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    You liberals are just wrong about Trump. He is not against the Jews. He is not a fascist.
    He is not a racist.
    Its utterly ridiculous, what you guys post and believe.
    I have no words for such baloney.

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    School of hard knocks is coming for those who want and get socialism in America.
    You'll see!
    Unless Trump stays in and continues the progress he implemented and sustained all these years despite the radical left's opposition, slander, impeachment, lies and
    ceaseless hatred.

    When all he has done, is try to get us to an economically good place and protect us from foreign threats/terrorism and domestic terrorism.

    You will regret all you have said and done against such a wise and well-meaning man.
    The radical left has just about crucified a perfectly fine, excellent president.
    Thanks for nothing.

    1. MizBejabbers profile image90
      MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      And the school of hard knocks isn't here right now? What progress are you talking about? I see Trump supporters touting all this progress, but I never see them documenting any. This country is in the worst crises ever, and his supporters talk about progress,
      https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru … -big-banks

      Trumps poor performance is prolonging this crisis. People are hurting. Putting them instantly back to work and sending kids to back school so their parents can go to work is exposing millions to the virus. That is his answer.

      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        What OTHER answer is there?  To shut down the country - not just the small portion already done - and allow people to starve and freeze?  To keep children from getting an education?  To saddle our children with an absolutely impossible debt load (we're nearly there anyway)?

        I think we've done what we could to slow the virus, although a great many refuse to do their own small part.  We cannot live cowering in our homes forever; at some point we have to come out and rebuild our economy.

        1. MizBejabbers profile image90
          MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Wilderness, let's just hope it works. I heard this morning that the school of which the student posted a congested hallway (and was suspended) had shut down for cleaning and sanitizing.

          https://news.yahoo.com/student-took-vir … 55695.html

          I'm not against reopening in a careful and intelligent manner, but I'm afraid too many are being rushed. I do have a dog in this fight. My grandchildren are both employed in a large restaurant in Texas. They are fortunate that they've never lost a day's work as their drive through stayed open throughout the pandemic. My granddaughter has expressed concern for the rushed re-openings of businesses.

          I think your statement ""...done what we could to slow the virus, although a great many refuse to do their own small part" is the key. Even my grandchildren's mother is one of those who complains about "having her freedom taken away" by having to wear a mask at her job in a store. How would she feel if one of her working children died of the virus because somebody else felt the same way?

          BTW, I think that our state's governor, Asa Hutchinson, a conservative Republican, is doing a very good job of handling the crisis in this state. He is cool-headed and articulate and has exercised very good judgment, unlike the governors of GA and FL.

          1. The Masked Marauder profile image78
            The Masked Marauderposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Who are you? Are you a Russian troll? How dare you provide a link to a clearly liberal site to articulate your objections to opening schools in a hap-hazard fashion during a deadly pandemic. LOLOLOL. Sorry for baiting you. Your concise and common-sense statement absolutely proves that it is not about the PARTY, it's about the PERSON. I live in South Carolina but I own property in Arkansas as well as West Texas. Hutchinson has done a commendable job in controlling Coronavirus in your state while Governor Abbott (R-Texas) has failed miserably in the Lone Star State. In your comment you have drawn a distinct separation between politicians of the same party and their bi-polar response to a crisis. Hutchinson has crossed party lines to do what's best for all the people under his Governance. Your comment has proven that it's NOT about your declarations, It's about your actions. Your comment is an excellent example of how true Governance should operate. You've more than earned my respect. Sincerely, THE MASKED MARAUDER.

            1. MizBejabbers profile image90
              MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Thank you Masked Marauder. I was trained the right way as a journalist, not to be a rabble rouser. After I left the media, I spent 30 years as a legal editor for the State of Arkansas, and worked my last two while he was governor. I saw him do some things with state agencies that I don't agree with, but I can't fault him for his handling of the coronavirus.

        2. Sharlee01 profile image84
          Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          You said a mouthful... We have done what we could to flatten the curve, now we need to continue to use our well-learned mitigations to work, go to school, and do the very best we can... And encourage those around us to do the same. We really need to rebuild our communities, not sure people realize we have many problems that are not really being reported. People are pouring into food banks, many losing jobs, and homes.  There are many sad realities that have occurred due to the virus, many citizens are not willing to face, but that does not make them magically go away.

    2. Sychophantastic profile image89
      Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Wise and well-meaning? Self-serving and treasonous, more like it. Nobody who lies like he breathes can be well-meaning.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Provide a lie.

        1. Sychophantastic profile image89
          Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this
          1. Sychophantastic profile image89
            Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Here's another good one:

            "We created the Veterans Choice Program." He's actually claimed this more than 150 times.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              He improved and replaced it.

              1. Sychophantastic profile image89
                Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                He said he created it. It was not replaced. Any more lies. Care to address the other ones above? There are thousands to choose from.

            2. Readmikenow profile image98
              Readmikenowposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Well, I can speak about the VA from personal experience.  I go there regularly.  Under Obama, there were long wait times and many vets were paying out of pocket for services the VA couldn't provide them.  Since Donald Trump has become president, there are no more wait time.  If the VA can't provide a particular service, the VA will pay for a vet to get it from a civilian hospital.  In the hospital where I go, at one time it only had one MRI machine under obama.  There were so many long waits to get service.  Under President Donald Trump, this VA facility now has six MRI machines, and there is NO wait anymore. 

              I hope everyone reads this realizes obama is the ONLY president in the history of the United States to suggest vets pay for their own health insurance.  This is an agreement between the government and those who serve that goes back to the time of the Revolutionary War. 

              So, from personal experience and not just links to stories, I can tell you the VA has vastly improved under President Donald Trump.

              1. Sychophantastic profile image89
                Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Obama created the reform, not Trump. The bill was signed late in Obama’s second term, so the impact would not have taken effect fully until into Trump’s term.

                What you are giving Trump credit for is in the original bill Obama signed. Truth:

                https://apnews.com/375515aecedb4aed949e4f2eb9c54eb6

                You have Obama to thank for the program.

                The charge of Obama wanting Vets to pay for their own insurance is also basically a lie.

                https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/health-concerns/

                Clearly, some idiot in his administration thought it was a good idea, but Obama recognized it was stupid and dropped the idea quickly.

                Strange though, I am surprised you don’t support the private sector taking over the VA. Government shouldn’t be involved in health care, right?

                Where did you serve, btw?

      2. profile image59
        Tonald Drumpposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        +1

        It wasn't the radical left that just confirmed Paul Manafort was sharing the Trump Campaign's internal polling data with the Russians during the 2016 election.  Or that Trump lied about knowing about when the Wikileaks releases would be issued.  That would be a bi-partisan committee featuring respected Republicans Ben Sasse, Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          1. Mr. Manafort was sharing internal polling data with the Russians during the 2016 election,
          2. Trump knew when the Wikileaks releases would be issued.
          3.  A bi-partisan committee featured Ben Sasse, Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton.

          What are the implications and consequences of these issues in your mind? Do they take away Trump's presidential accomplishments?

          1. profile image59
            Tonald Drumpposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            They certainly show that his campaign coordinated with a hostile foreign government to get him elected.  Then he committed a crime in lying about it to investigators.

            What accomplishments?  He has divided America, ignored a pandemic that has led to 170,000 dead Americans, and taken a thriving economy and a 4.2% unemployment rate and caused it to rise to over 10%.  He has destroyed way more than he has accomplished.

          2. Sychophantastic profile image89
            Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Treason.

  6. Castlepaloma profile image78
    Castlepalomaposted 11 months ago

    Racism is not respecting someone's differences. Hatred is a deeper negative. Trump belongs in a mental hospital, and probably the worst criminals in human history. That dose not mean I hate him because I don't hate anyone. Just let A-holes be A-hole, as he is a product of the Americans.   Only the people can make positive changes of the big stuff, not the religious or politics.

    Covid19 is a natural environment issue and  natural disaster like Trump is the greatest threat to human kind. Vote Green or the 2 evils choices is just taken a Frankenstein selfie or cutting your nose off to spite your face.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Hi, Castlepaloma. Just like old times.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image78
        Castlepalomaposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        My faith relies on you guys to jump over the fire. Not on hope of politics and religion to go through the fire.

        Pop in there, now and again to catch up on the same old dark empire who keeps getting worst, for the sake of humor and caution.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Yep, I see that!

  7. profile image59
    Tonald Drumpposted 11 months ago

    The irony of accusing another person of hatred when your candidate leads the way in espousing hatred to undermine the functionality of our current government is astounding.


    https://hubstatic.com/15161217.jpg

    Wouldn't it be safe to say that a public official working against our government interests would be treason?  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions … story.html

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Treason
      The betrayal of one's own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.

      From "the legal dictionary"

      "Working against our government interests" is not included as a "treasonous" act.  There is also the wee problem of determining just what is against the nation's (as opposed to government's) interests - we all seem to have a different opinion there.  Is refusing to enforce laws "treasonous", as in sanctuary cities?  I refusing to protect our people, or property, as in allowing riots to continue month after month, "treasonous"?

      1. profile image59
        Tonald Drumpposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        There are a few simple answers in Trump's case.  When he stood in front of the world and said he believed Putin's denial that he attacked our elections in 2016, despite every intelligence agency and Congress confirming he had done so.  Literally, a foreign government was found guilty of election interference and Trump sided with them.

        Then, when we investigated that interference, Trump committed actions to obstruct that investigation.  Regardless of the benefits to himself, those actions protected the nation that attacked us.
        https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement … b7691c2aa1

        Currently, he just admitted to attacking the USPS in order to restrict the voting rights of the citizenry.

        I would disagree with you that sowing a lack of faith in our own government is not treasonous.  I find that to be a huge betrayal of one's own country.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image84
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

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      1. profile image59
        Tonald Drumpposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Of course all you saw was the Washington Post and not Retired General William McRaven.  You see only what you want to see.  Instead of the words of a highly decorated leader of our military, you can dismiss his thoughts because the platform he chose doesn't align with the ones you trust.

        Seeds of raw truth.  That's a laugh.  The guy lies daily.  Congress and every intelligence service we have confirmed Russia attacked our elections in 2016.  Trump sides with Putin.  That's not truth, that's self interest, something Trump and his supporters excel in.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image84
          Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

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          1. profile image59
            Tonald Drumpposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            The fact that the original post sees objection to Trump as hate and not as a treasonous leader who sides with the country who attacked us is kind of my point.  If you're not willing to engage in that difference in view, do not respond.  It's pretty simply.  And if you cannot discern an opinion piece from one written by a staff writer, best not to comment either.

  8. profile image59
    Tonald Drumpposted 11 months ago

    This just in, Bi-partisan Senate report confirms Trump Campaign colluded with Russians.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/wikileaks-li … 43115.html

  9. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    How things work: Seeds start out little, tiny and seemingly insignificant.
    Somehow, by hook or crook they end up in soil, are watered and become sprouts. Then, they continue growing their ever stronger and deeper roots which absorb nourishment form the soil. Eventually, they become what they were destined to be.

    What if we were all destined to become something, so strong, so magnificent and so robust in physical and mental health? If you believe you were made in the image of God,

    Yes.

    Otherwise, No. It is up to the individual. He must determine his own mindset. If he ended up with a negative one, he can change it, if he wants to.


    A Mon Avis.

    1. profile image0
      Rotoiposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      +1 smile

  10. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    What creates the black under-class is the real question.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Is it the ruling-class which causes black children to be born out of wedlock? Which causes black children to be raised in female-headed households?
      Which causes black fathers to abandon their households?
      Which causes them to have more children then they should?

      1. peterstreep profile image80
        peterstreepposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        You have the right question.
        But I think you look for answers in the wrong direction.
        You ask moral questions. but the question is more about history and how a society is organized. I can't say for the US. but the society of the UK is organized through class and Dutch society is organized through religion. Every society is organized. And there are a lot of societies where the rules are/were made by the "ruling class."  And they favour themselves.
        To look at a topic as discrimination against black people in the US, you have to look at the history of your country and how this topic evolved over hundreds of years.
        Then you have to ask the question. How can we change this and improve the world we live in.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          In your opinion, but not mine. You remind me of John Holden. :-(
          In my opinion, each person must come to a workable conclusion on how to survive. Those who fail to plan, plan to fail.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            If Lady Madonna has too many children, why should anyone else feel obliged pitch in? Let her collect money from all the children's fathers! If they refuse, of course it would be unkind for others to do the same, but do the same they must!  Hopefully, there are enough charitable organizations (and grandparents) to assist these types of plan-less females. But to redistribute wealth (hard-earned money of others) for their sakes?
            Is it fair?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLRiGX3L-kw

        2. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Blacks can take responsibility for their own communities.

          If not, why not? because of how history evolved? and not because of their own negligences?


          How easy it is to blame white oppression.
          ... rather than accept the reality and deal with it appropriately.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVkGS5mDlEU

          1. peterstreep profile image80
            peterstreepposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            History is not to blame, but history is needed to get an understanding of how racism and Apartheid was used and how to prevent it.
            Don't forget that still in the '50 blacks and whites had to use different toilets, different seats in the park etc. That's not even a generation away. Your parents lived in those days. Ask them about it.
            These rules were made by the ruling governments and local authorities. And this kind of thinking does not go away overnight.

            So yes, you can point the finger to white oppression.
            Pointing a finger is not a solution. But acknowledging a problem is the start of one.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Dealing with problems as they occur is the solution. Isolating the difficulty leads to the solution: To ask, What, exactly, is the difficulty?

              The lack of understanding, (or the willingness to facilitate it,) of the best way to live for whites and for all other races, is the difficulty.

              To say white oppression is the difficulty is wrong in a representative republic with laws which guarantee justice for ALL!

              What IS the best way to live for us all?

              Taking responsibility for one's life, ensuring it is a good one and avoiding failures and offenses.

              1. profile image59
                Tonald Drumpposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                If only justice was equal, but it's not.  There are clear cases of minorities getting harsher sentencing for similar crimes.  Minorities are shot at higher percentages by police officers. 

                https://www.sentencingproject.org/publi … sparities/

                https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01846-z

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  To isolate this difficulty is beneficial/vital. It is a problem we are now working on.

                  ... and the ones being arrested?
                  Please cooperate with the police!

                2. Sharlee01 profile image84
                  Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  This is all so very true. It is also a fact that Trump worked on prison reform to right some of the wrongs done under previous administrations. Hopefully, he will work on legitimate police reform, that is badly needed in America. Reform has been a need for decades. Fun how so much has been accomplished by a man that is so well disliked by Democrats. Problems that have been around for many many years.

                  "91 Percent of Inmates Freed by First Step Act Were Black."
                  "The report by the U.S. Sentencing Commission revealed that 91.3 percent of the 1,051 people who received retroactive sentencing reductions due to the passage of the First Step Act were black. Republicans scheduled photo-ops with newly released prisoners. The ultra-conservative Washington Examiner called it “Kushner’s reform bill,” which “benefits blacks overwhelmingly."

                  https://www.theroot.com/91-percent-of-i … 1835387925

  11. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    Sometimes, unfortunately, reinforcing bad habits and natural human propensities is undertaken by those who profit, such as those connected to Affirmative Action.

    1. Sychophantastic profile image89
      Sychophantasticposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      At what point in your life did you support Affirmative Action? Was there ever a time?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        From the book, Progressive Racism by David Horowitz:
        "The continued suffering of disadvantaged, black communities and the continued under-par performance of black school children is a price the well-heeled civil-rights establishment is apparently willing to pay to keep their hope alive of continuing guilt tributes from their
        all-too-accommoding white "oppressors." pg 115.

  12. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    Police Unions prohibit the firing of bad apple cops. I heard that Derek Chauvin was a bad apple who should have been dismissed. Did I hear right?

    https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/qua … ice-unions

  13. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    How can Trump be considered "treasonous" ?

    1. profile image59
      Tonald Drumpposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      He openly sided with Putin in Helsinki in 2018 when he said he believed his denials about 2016 election interference even though every intelligence service and Congress had confirmed who had done it.

      He committed ten counts of obstruction of justice regarding the investigation into the country that attacked our elections in 2016.

      He failed to stand up to Putin about bounties placed on our soldiers.

      He failed to act when MBS murdered a journalist living in the United States.

      He abandoned our allies in the Kurds at the request of Turkey's president.

      Here are just a few reasons why Trump could be considered treasonous.

  14. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    He wisely does not want the tyranny of a stupid virus to shut down the economy. Would you rather get sick ...

    or die of starvation?

  15. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    The rest of your so called lies are actually politically inspired exaggerations.

    Its called politics. Deal with it.

  16. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    He did not exaggerate when he told us that if Joe Biden gets elected, "China will own America."

 
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