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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   What could have been? Where would we be now?

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      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Oh my, hard to even consider, 2016 seem so far behind us. Well, I think we would still have the ACA, and many would be paying $750.00 to support it. I think Black Colleges would not have received much-needed funds, we would have still had a depleted military, and increase suicides of the military. We would not have had the fantastic tax cuts and more jobs for all. We would have many more dead from COVID, I could go on and on. Oh, my stock portfolio would not be what it is for sure. We would have Bill in the White House, now that may have been fun. We would have had very open borders, and more people in history being made American citizens. I think I will stop there, it's making me really scared. LOL

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      crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Great question. One can only imagine it would be better than the circus of vitriol and violence we have going on now.

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         Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I agree that the right wouldn't have thrown a tantrum to the extent the left has, had Hillary won. They definitely wouldn't have riots that have escalated to public executions like the left has. And they wouldn't be making excuses for racist behavior as the left has.

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            crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I suppose the so-called Left is just following Trump's lead and leadership on this sort of behavior.

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I believe you suppose wrongly.

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               Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               That's one distorted way to look at it. Trump is one man. The left has attacked Trump consistently, from the beginning. He's a politician now, so certainly fair game.
               
               But they didn't stop with him. They verbally attacked every citizen who didn't agree with their assessment. Didn't work.
               
               They began protests to physically and verbally harass any public figure who didn't agree with them. Not fair game.
               
               They began this cancel culture cancer for any who didn't pay lip service at any turn or at any point in history. Ignorantly. But, still sane people stand against them.
               
               They started riots and the rest of the left pretended no rioting was happening, and stood,in many ways, with them. Ignorantly calling for help bailing out those who were caught perpetrating violence.
               
               The left stood behind idiots claiming looting was restitution. Ignorantly allowing law abiding peaceful citizens to lose their businesses, many part of the groups the left have used to justify the riots. Ignorantly. The left chose to somewhat agree by not holding those responsible for the destruction accountable.
               
               Now we have death. No different from historical lynchings. Just mobs and individuals with hate filled hearts making it up as they go. Now, the left does appear to kind of, sort of, maybe realize facts are kind of hard to run from. But, just some of the easily discerned facts.
               
               Now they blame Trump for the violence they began, they nurtured, and in pride they watched grow. I am sorry the left either refuses to, or is incapable of, understanding the nature of cause and effect.
               
               It's like me saying 'i hate snow' and then you, the guy that works the snow machine at a ski resort, the person who invented it, the workers at the factory that built it and the person who owned the factory, blaming me when the machine starts spitting it out and then attacking every human who points out the inherent ignorance of the attack on me.

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                  Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you...  It is always refreshing to see facts in writing, and so uplifting to realize the truth is there, and one does not have to look far to discover it. One only needs to open their eyes.

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                  crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  When you sow chaos and hatred and bullying is your M.O., you create a certain atmosphere and will things into being by encouraging the behavior you demonstrate. This is exactly how parenting works. If you yell and scream to solve your problems, your kids yell and scream to solve theirs.
                  
                  And somehow you're comparing the violent protests to "historical" lynchings? Interesting use of the word "historical". Obscuring the very nature of lynchings with your words, as if hiding the truth of the history of lynchings makes it go away.

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                     Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     Think about it. Think about the protest in Virginia to display solidarity on the right to gun ownership. I believe those people left the area in better shape than they found it. Northam and his cronies did everything they could to alienate the opposition. There was no violence.
                     
                     What is the left doing? Burning, looting, spreading graffiti and now executing those who disagree with them.
                     
                     Make up excuses for anything you want. Intelligent people easily see through the bs that, somehow, violence is a reasonable reaction to that you don't agree with.

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                        crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

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                           Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           Trump has been the first president in a very long tie that has provide some solutions for the problems black citizens deal with and have been dealing with for decades. Sorry but he has made a difference, a path forward. You can choose to ignore or dismiss the positive things he has done to bring about change for blacks, hopefully, many blacks have recognized his work, and will vote for him. I believe many will.  I won't bother at this point listing what he has done. Been there done that, adding links to the facts of these accomplishments. I trust if black people have benefited or have noted a president that is doing not just saying they can.
                           
                           And vitriol;, my gosh the speech Biden gave yesterday was laden with hate, spurring on division. The words were written well but in the end hatful. Very good food to gin up hate. That is in some, some just see the hypocrisy, the phoniness --- time to flip, we are not doing as well in the polls... Time to blame, stir up hate. Razzle dazzle 'em.
                           
                           Most are too intelligent to buy that kind of politicking any more.
                           
                           Trump shows his empathy by doing, not reading a pretty speech, and that's hard to deny.  He was like a squirrel, while the Dems stirred up crazy impeachments Russia conspiracies, and more... Trump was working to help everyday American's. All American's no one slipped through the cracks.
                           
                           That's why he will win the election. Most American's are pretty intelligent and will realize just how much he has done in such a short period.
                           
                           I can't even conceive why you feel the country is not moving forward? If you feel the violence in the Dem cities is being looked at as a huge problem, many could careless, we are removed from these cities, we recognize the mentality of those that Govern them. I say let them do whatever they see fit. I had hoped Trup would give up with his daily offers to step in and help. The Dems should be left to del with thier own. I think most everyday working people could care less about the riots as long as they  don't affect them.
                           
                           The country is moving forward in many eyes. There will always be the Handwringer.... Left with what if's, and he said...  Stop and have a look around, things are coming back, we are moving on, the best we can.

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                              Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              +1

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                              crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              Trump's America:
                              
                              Ingraham: Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings? Is it former Obama officials?
                              
                              Trump: People that you’ve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that—
                              
                              Igraham: What does that mean? That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that?
                              
                              Trump: No. People that you haven’t heard of. They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane.
                              
                              Ingraham: Where — where was this?
                              
                              Trump: I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now, but they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention, and there were like seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage.
                              
                              Asked to clarify by reporters on Tuesday, Trump improvised a pathetically obvious lie, saying “a person” who was on the mythical plane ride “from Washington to wherever” told him about this occurrence, in which “the entire plane filled up with the looters, the anarchists, the rioters, people that obviously were looking for trouble.”
                              
                              Where does this fantasy come from? Ben Collins of NBC News tracked down the provenance of the story of the plane full of antifa thugs: It started as a Facebook post from a man in Idaho on June 1 warning that “At least a dozen males got off the plane in Boise from Seattle, dressed head to toe in black.” Which of course didn’t happen.
                              
                              This story altered and spread during the early summer as paranoid conservatives stirred each other up on Facebook with rumors that busloads or planeloads of antifa fighters were coming to lay waste to their small towns. In some places, people grabbed guns and gathered to repel invasions that never came, just as the “big damage” Trump’s imaginary antifa strike team brought to the Republican convention didn’t happen.

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                                 Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                 ... why do you proclaim that thugs did not get off a plane or that they are not getting off planes? or out of rental cars? Which groups are fighting for justice through anarchy? Young white students? Radicalized Americans? Angry blacks? Peaceful protestors? BLM supporters? Syrians? Paid anarchists? Right wingers and Trump supporters, White supremacists and the Klan? A whole Hodge-Podge of Covid19-bored ruffians?
                                 
                                 From months ago: https://www.cbsnews.com/video/authoriti … rotests/#x

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                                    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                    if Hillary had been elected would this violence be occurring and continuing on and on, as it has?

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                                 Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                 I did not watch the interview last night. It does appear he claims an investigation is in progress in regard to the allegation he spoke of. It will be interesting to hear if this is even true. I never say never when it comes to something Trump said. I do know AG Barr has claimed that many that caused problems at the many riots went between the cities, and he was investigating who supported their trave.  He claims there are a few organizations that are paying for the protester travel needs.
                                 
                                 Until I see the facts from Barr, it's just all talk.

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                        crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        I have little doubt that with a real leader in the White House, these protests would subside quickly. Welcome to Trump's 'Merica. Advocate violence, you get violence. Advocate hatred, you get hatred. Advocate bullying, you get bullying. Insult people as rapists, thugs; etc. instead of addressing the issues, forming policy, discussing things rationally, you get irrationality.
                        
                        And if you don't understand the power disparity between white gun owners and the current protesters, I weep. The gun owners are protesting against some future something they think they won't have, but already do. The current protesters are protesting for equal treatment. That power disparity is as wide as the ocean.

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                           Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           Wow. Kind of a left tactic. Blaming everyone else.

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                              crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              Sure. Just behaving like the President then, I guess.

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                           GA Andersonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           "I have little doubt that with a real leader in the White House, these protests would subside quickly."
                           
                           Do you mean a Democrat leader, like the ones in charge of these cities?
                           
                           GA

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   Live to Learnposted 3 years ago

   There would be more troops overseas fighting pointless wars. The military industrial complex would be making money hand over fist. We would be immersed in a massive depression with more homeless on the streets and our government would be more concerned with ensuring our borders were open for more to slip through illegally, in hopes of ensuring the democrats stayed in power; than addressing the needs of our citizens in crisis.
   
   And the racism we are seeing displayed by the left would be much more prevalent, openly spewed on all major networks.
   
   And that's the bright side of the possible picture.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thank You for your response. The democrat party had already been taken over BY THEM.
      
      We rmust know who is behind the current day democrat party. We need to see the party for what it is.
      They have one interest:
      Finding ways for ever more power by turning us into TAX SLAVES.
      I do believe slavery is our biggest threat.
      
      And right now THEY are  O U R  (right AND left)  common enemy.
      
      who is it?
      
      Man, they are sneaky.
      
      WHO IS  T H E Y ? ? ?

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      Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Abomination, and God forbid.       Not America. God's own country.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

   To save the nation I believe we must stop hating President Trump, taking him for granted or seeing him in a negative light.
   
   Just today I met a man living out of his car. We were talking, chatting and suddenly he mentioned Trump. He said you are not a Trump supporter are you. I said, well he does help us to have a percolating economy. He said have a good day or something to that effect. He said, "I hope you wake up."
   I smiled and carried on my way ...
   
   - something wrong with a percolating economy?

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