What is happening to our country?

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  1. jackclee lm profile image84
    jackclee lmposted 11 months ago

    I can't believe for the first time in my life, I see a Washington DC boarding up before a presidential election. Why?

    1. jackclee lm profile image84
      jackclee lmposted 11 months agoin reply to this
      1. jackclee lm profile image84
        jackclee lmposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Why can't people be civil and accept the will of the people expressed by our election?

        1. Kayode Doyak profile image60
          Kayode Doyakposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          What makes you think they can’t? Sure they can, these riots and vandals are not interested in civility under any circumstances but not because they can’t be civil. They are nothing but thugs and anarchists whose purpose is to create havoc and their motivation has nothing to do with accepting or rejecting the will of the people. They are useful idiots being used by evil forces arrayed against America.

        2. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          We as a nation have embraced the quaint concept that violence is not only acceptable but actually encouraged; witness Portland and Seattle as just two examples.

          In addition, we have set aside the old concept of cooperation to achieve a result wherein no one gets all they want but everyone can live with it.  Instead we simply keep working, chipping away, at what we don't like and never accept any results but that which gives us everything and no one else anything.  Witness the decades long struggle to ban gun ownership, to ban abortions, to teach religious beliefs as "science" in schools.

          Compromise is a dirty word, and if it takes violence to avoid such a drastic and evil thing, then violence it is.

        3. Credence2 profile image81
          Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Accepting the will of the electorate in 2016 does not mean that political opponents are not obligated to lawfully dissent.

          The Rightwinger had started their  "Tea Party's, etc. in protest to Barack Obama virtually on day one of his administration.

          I can accept the will of the majority of voters, which Trump did not receive, by the way, but I don't have to like it and can express that displeasure "peacefully".

          1. jackclee lm profile image84
            jackclee lmposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I agree with you. but then, can you address my observation about the boarding up of businesses...ahead of this election? What is that all about?

            1. Credence2 profile image81
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              We have had a lot of protests or riots if you will over events that have occurred this year. I think that these so called preparations are extreme and not warranted, whether Trump or Biden wins.

          2. wilderness profile image96
            wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Hmm.  Does that mean that if Trump wins legally and constitutionally, but loses according to rules you set up without regard to the law, that you will join the rioters burning cities in "peaceful protests"?

            1. Credence2 profile image81
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              That is IF Trump wins legally and Constitutionally.

              I am more afraid of the paramilitary, rightwing, gunslinging buffoons that will use 2nd Amendment remedies as a response to a Biden win. That concerns me even more.

              I did not say anything about my participating in riots and raucous protests.

              But I will do everything legally and within my power to vote and advocate  against the Rightwingers and their candidates. My raison d'etre.

              1. wilderness profile image96
                wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Sorry, I took your quote marks wrong. 'I don't have to like it and can express that displeasure "peacefully"' - with the word in quotes, I assumed you meant the new definition of "peaceful": destroy as much as possible before the city shuts me down.

                I also assumed that the "will of the voters" (popular vote) took precedence over the Constitution and law from the way it was worded.  Again, sorry.

              2. Sharlee01 profile image83
                Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                There are two things I would like to bet on. One, of Biden, loses, we will have epic riots  If Trump loses we will have no riots...

                1. jackclee lm profile image84
                  jackclee lmposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Agree 100%.

                2. Credence2 profile image81
                  Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I don't know, Sharlee, a Trump loss may well mean reprisal from those loathsome right wing militia types, suggesting possible insurrection or an otherwise treasonous course. Compared with that response, anything from the left would be Romper Room in comparison.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image83
                    Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    I can only give my view --- I think if Trump wins and the left comes out to riot they will be met by the right. The riots will be epic. The right is no longer going to step back if Trump wins and let his second term be delegitimized once again by sore losers. 

                    If Biden wins we won't see any form of riots unless Trump contests it, and then riots will occur, and both will show up.

                    The right will not sit back any more than the left.  Human nature...and actually fair play. Do you think no one should stop left protesters when they become violent?  My common sense tells me these fools will come up against opposition if they start burning and looting this time around.

          3. jackclee lm profile image84
            jackclee lmposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            credence, the TEA party was a peaceful grass-root movement. Yes, they were against Obama but not because of his skin color but because of his tax and spend policy that put us in deeper debt, doubling our national debt to $20 trillion by the time he left office.
            This new movement on the left by Antifa and BLM is not peaceful.

            1. Credence2 profile image81
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Of course, they were against his skin color and his not being white, otherwise I would have heard about all this stuff during Clinton and earlier Democrat administrations.

              I don't care for rightwing politics nor their complaints and misinterpretations which carries little or no weight with me as a matter of course.

              Otherwise you and I can disagree about virtually everything you have said.

              Sorry....

          4. Live to Learn profile image75
            Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Are you really comparing the tea party to antifa and the riots?

            Hilarious.

            1. Credence2 profile image81
              Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Right wing goons strike again, what is this about?


              https://news.yahoo.com/us-election-bide … 28851.html

              1. Live to Learn profile image75
                Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                I had relatives who were tea party. You implies the tea party is violent, like antifa. They aren't violent, they were just feed up with the government and supported the agenda of the tea party. By voting.

                I didn't read your article but, the right consistently denounces the far right, I have yet to see the left do anything but pander to rioters, looters and the like.

                I always say conservatives are too busy working, too independent thinking and too peace loving to gather together and cause trouble. When they do gather together to protest they make certain the area they protest in isn't burned and trashed, isn't looted, isn't torn down. They respect others. The left has lost the ability to understand how civil society works.

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  "I have yet to see the left do anything but pander to rioters, looters and the like."

                  Good point.  When they don't get what they want, the far left turns to violence and the more moderate left gives them what they want.  This makes the moderate left look the same as the radicals...because when they give in they ARE the far left.

                2. Credence2 profile image81
                  Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  "I always say conservatives are too busy working, too independent thinking and too peace loving to gather together and cause trouble. When they do gather together to protest they make certain the area they protest in isn't burned and trashed, isn't looted, isn't torn down. They respect others. The left has lost the ability to understand how civil society works."
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                  I would not say that and I most strongly disagree.....

                  We will just have to wait and see, won't we?

        4. Sharlee01 profile image83
          Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Because the ideologies of American's have split. No one wins with this form of a split.  And in my view, this will get worse before it gets better.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image83
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      It is apparent many in America have embraced violent protesting. The long summer of love is evidence of that.  So, buckle up if Trump wins we will see much more of what we put up with all summer. Let's just hope they stay in Dem cities as they did last summer.  If Biden wins we will have little protesting if any. Conservatives don't go low. Just my opinion

    3. Sharlee01 profile image83
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Sign of more to come. This election is one of the most important elections we have ever had. And you ask why, just think of the riots we witnessed all year, and every time policemen shoot someone in the line of duty looters take to the streets, and police are told to stand down in  Dem cities. The cities that are boarding up well need to, there will be riots and looting if Trump wins. Hopefully, Trump wins and we won't have to put up with this lawlessness to much longer.

 
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