Trump claims possible voter fraud as the results draw near

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   Stevennix2001posted 4 years ago

   President Donald Trump claims that there's strong evidence to believe that voter fraud is the reason Biden was able to make a comeback in the polls after the mail in ballots came in, and he goes on to suggest alleged foul play afoot on Biden's camp.  Here's the video for those who would like to hear what he says directly:
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhml9ulaz1s
   
   Assuming you watched the video, what are your thoughts on this?

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Let him prove it.

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         Kayode Doyakposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         And what say you when he does?
         
         Will you rationalize like the media that anything to get rid of him is a good thing and ok or will you call a spade a spade and label the Democrat party what it is, a corrupt, no, a traitorous criminal organization?

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            PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            If he proves cheating, the cheaters should be prosecuted.
            
            If he doesn't prove it, he should shut up and go away.

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      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      While I don't believe there was fraud (to amount to anything; we know there are scattered instances), I also recall Trump's claims that he was bugged.  A claim that also received nothing but disdain, but that was ultimately proven to be true.  It remains possible that I am wrong, that Trump is right, and that Democrats have succeeded in pulling off (so far) the biggest "heist" in history.  Especially given their actions of the past 4 years in continued bogus attempts to remove him from office.  Neither truth, honesty nor ethics are a part of our political scene anymore.

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      Sharlee01posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I am one that needs facts to create an opinion. As all know I have supported the president throughout his 4 years. However, he needs to put proof of voter fraud. I can understand his problems with poll-watchers problems that have occurred. Put accusations of fraud need to be proven with evidence .as the accusations are made.    It is plausible there was some voter fraud,   We as a nation need facts, not rhetoric.
      
      I think he needs to put out some proof in the next day or two or drop this, it's not good for the Country. We just don't need any further conspiracies. We have had four years of unproven conspiracies. Trump has the right to request recounts, but he need not shout fraud unless he can prove it.
      
      I will miss Trump's accomplishments, but I won't miss his rhetoric and hype. He needs to put up or shut up. Facts matter.

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   IslandBitesposted 4 years ago

   He's not claiming possible fraud. He is claiming fraud since the day of the election. He's been claiming fraud (without any real evidence) for weeks before the election. His strategy was to delegitimize the elections because he knew it would be hard for him to win.  The same night of the election he was demanding the count to stop.
   
   He's been asking for the Supreme court to "decide". That was the rush with the confirmation of the new Supreme judge. Like one of his surrogates so transparently said "We're waiting for the United States Supreme Court - of which the President has nominated three justices - to step in and do something,” she continued. “And hopefully Amy Coney Barrett will come through and pick it up.”
   
   That'd be his Hail Mary. But he knew there was a strong possibility he would lose the election. The strategy is not for the party, is for his ego. It would not survive defeat, so he needs an excuse; I was robbed. He did the same thing last election, only that he won, and then said he no longer care if there was election fraud.

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   Kayode Doyakposted 4 years ago

   Why didn’t you quote the rest of what Trump’s “surrogate” said?
   
   Dhillon claimed that “election officials are in contempt” by “ignoring that court order and going on with the counting without Republican election monitors there to witness it.”
   
   “Because that election is so close and because the president’s lead is declining, that is where we could lose it, and it is an outrage that those people are in contempt of court,” Dhillon said.
   
   People like you love to take things out of context to make a false impression which is just as bad as the law breaking going on by Democrats running the election.

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      IslandBitesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      "Meanwhile".

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   Stevennix2001posted 4 years ago

   Well wilderness as I told kayode doyak in another forum, I'm open to the possibility that the election might be rigged in Biden's favor just like I was in 2016 when Trump won, and allegations came out against him.       
   
   However I think rbthebreakthrough, on YouTube, said it best when it came to alleged fixed NBA games.    Granted I know fixing an NBA game and fixing a presidential election are two different things, nor am I comparing running for office with being a basketball player.  However he claims if you notice most people claim games are fixed usually do so after their team loses.   You never see anyone say the games are fixed when their team wins. 
   
   The point is unless you're open to the idea that the NBA games could be fixed even when your team benefits from it then all it does is make people question your sincerity when you claim games are fixed. 
   
   Same thing for the voter fraud that Trump is talking about.    I'm not going to condemn the possibility Biden might be cheating but I would ask anyone that thinks that would you still feel that way if trump somehow pulls off a miracle and wins the re-election?

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      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps it's that "Trump somehow pulls off a miracle" bit.  I didn't, and don't, see it as a "miracle" if an incumbent president wins the election, and the only reason it isn't a miracle if Biden wins is because of 4 years of unrelenting efforts to demonize the president that did more for the country than the last half dozen combined did.
      
      Doesn't change my opinion, though, that there was very little fraud.  Or that Trump is behaving like a spoiled child that didn't get what he wanted...say much like the Democrats have acted for 4 years.

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   abwilliamsposted 4 years ago

   If every single vote, counted post election, after the midnight hour, without observers, was going to Donald Trump, after Joe Biden had held a substantial lead before the midnight hour, yes I would definitely be thinking something fishy is going on.
   
   Also, it is not Joe Biden who is cheating.

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      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Please back up this statement with proof:
      
      "every single vote... without observers, is going to Biden" (I realize that's not your quote, but that's what you are saying.
      
      The opposite is happening in Arizona.

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