Biden Considers Travel Ban to Florida

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   Live to Learnposted 11 months ago

   Thanks Biden voters.  You've helped create a government that believes political retribution trumps civil rights.
   
   I say if Biden does this it will then be OK for Texas to impose a travel ban,  thus circumventing Biden's order to open their border.
   
   If the democrats pursue this,  ignoring our guaranteed rights of freedom of movement, those of you who voted for Biden owe the nation an apology. Your celebration and support of cancel culture has allowed this insanity to be considered.

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      Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Pandemic?  What pandemic?

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         Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Check stats on all the states. Pretty much plummeting.  Thank God, seems Joe can't get the vaccine out. Oh, he has considered building a glove factory.  This virus will fizzle out on its own before Biden can get the vaccine out. It's already quickly mutating, that's what viruses do sometimes killing themselves via mutation... that's science.

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            Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I'm down here in Florida right now, and the new variant is taking hold.  God forbid a president, or what you refer to as a wack job, aims to actually try and limit the spread of a much more contagious variant during a pandemic.

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               Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

               My sister lives in Florida, so I do keep up a close watch of the stats and have read a lot about the new variance. There is no indication that it is virulent. It spreads more quickly.  Florida's case has plummetted Jan 08 21,015 daily new cases ---  Feb 09 7,023...

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            PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I just got my first shot last week. I just read that the Biden administration says the U.S. will have enough doses for 300 million people by July.

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               IslandBitesposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Two of my sisters (teachers) got theirs last Monday. My mom, dad and grandma got theirs the next day. My other two sisters that work at a college will have theirs this week.

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               Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Did you read the contracts I posted a bit ago with the pharma companies Trump secured? Maybe do that and you might realize we had over 300 million does in those contracts before the vaccines were even developed.  That's genius at work. Biden simply orders more.  Laughable. But good feed.

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      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      He is simply a wack job.   He can see Florida is pretty much having the same drop in cases without mitigating.   Cases are at the very lowest and dropping daily. Keep em scared. How dare he think he can dictate at a state level.  He is putting up mirrors for his ineptness in getting vaccine out, and getting the Stimulus package to the people, and so much more. He is too busy doing away with Trump's policies. Lower drug cost is gone, treatment for opioid addiction gone. Keep em dependent, and needy ... A good way to keep votes.

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   PrettyPantherposted 11 months ago

   White House looks at domestic travel restrictions as virus variant surges in Florida
   
   "Two federal government officials underscored that no policy announcements are imminent, and that any move to restrict travel or impose new health measures would be taken in partnership with state and local governments."

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      Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Good luck getting a state whose income ties directly in to tourism to agree to be singled out like that.

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         PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         True. Florida, in particular, has a history of ignoring science and the health and safety of its citizens in favor of money. This is evident in their leaders' positions on climate change as well as the pandemic.

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            Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Lol. Ignoring science has become the sole domain of the left. What that governor appears to ignore is the inane prattle the foot soldiers of the democratic party are easily swayed by.

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               Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

               They were offered a simple mantra --- follow the science.

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               PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Hmmm, the only significant example I can think of that involves "the left" ignoring science would be anti-vaxxers. Did you mean something else?

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                  Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I didn't realize anti vaxxers were only on the left.
                  
                  Some examples would be ignoring biology, in favor of determining sex by how one feels.  Ignoring scientific data in order to allow women's sports to be dominated by biological males.  Claiming the science insists that everything stay shut down,  then changing their minds when the only change is the power structure. Should I go on?

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                     PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                     No, that was enough for me to know  where you're coming from. And I didn't say anti-vaxxers were only on the left. Especially nowadays, we have a while new set of anti COVID vaxxers largely from the right.
                     
                     Just goes to show they come in all stripes.

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                        Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                        What science did the Government not follow? I think the CDC as well as Fauci, and the task force set out plausible mitigations, as well as Operation Warp Speed working to get vaccines. I don't think much more could have been done. Naturally, it was then up to the states to follow the suggested mitigations. Which most did. Not sure anyone failed in regard to following the science except a few Governors, like Cuomo, and my own Governor Whitmer, who made the decision to send people that were recovering from COVID back into their nursing Homes.
                        
                        It might be time to realize we need to start realizing this virus was something that no one really knew much about, and in the beginning,  mistakes were made. All are Human. I mean in the first weeks of the virus Fauci claimed we did not need masks and was against the travel ban, he ever said he would travel to China. Not sure it fair to play the blame game, when one really thinks of the entire picture.  The problem was science told us as it progressed we did not know enough about it due to it being a new virus.  I think we followed the root science and that was to go after a vaccine, as we learn more about the virus.
                        
                        We can go at each other politically on many subjects. But the virus,  in my view, is a subject that we could be somewhat neutral.

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                           PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                           I was referring to Florida, not the federal government.

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                              Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                              Yes, I was just pointing out the Government and the CDC as well as the task force did put forth mitigations. But, it was up to the states to set what they wanted to follow in regard to mitigations.

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                                 PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                                 Yes, and my point was that the Florida governor ignored most of the recommendations.

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      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      The problem here --- Florida's case have plummetted Jan 08 21,015 daily new cases ---  Feb 09 7,023...   Sounds like you ate a bit of fake news. The virus is and has been plummetting over this last month in almost every state. Herein Mich in Jan we had daily case above 10,000 per day, we now have anywhere from 500, 800. All but gone in Michigan. Perhaps you should check the stats in your state. All over the world cases are coming down.
      
      Fact show this one need only have a look at the stats.
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

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         PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Did you read the arricle? It is about the precipitous rise of a variant strain in Florda, and what could be done to mitigate it.

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            Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I am aware of the mutations, all of them. Hopefully, it keeps mutating quickly. We might get lucky. Hopefully, you checked the stats of your state. This huge decrease in cases could show us more about the virus, and if it is weakning.

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               PrettyPantherposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Yes, I listened to an expert on tv today who said that very thing.

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                  Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I pray every night that this virus mutates. It is certainly like no other virus we have ever had. It would be such a stroke of luck if it mutates and denatures itself. Some do, H1N1 did.

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            Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Yes, I read the article. There is one problem, Florida has made the choice to handle the virus differently than some other states. At this point, it would be up to individual citizens to mitigate as they chose. The same goes for anyone that chooses to travel to the state. I would think any states that have a problem can request anyone traveling to Florida to quarantine after their return.
            
            I would think if the citizens are dissatisfied they could notify the Governor's office and complain about how he is handling the virus. I do know Florida's stats look good in regard to the falling infection rate. It would seem the state is going with the science of building a herd. My own opinion with this virus being how virulent it is, the herd method is fool-hearted and will cause many more deaths. We have a vaccine and can build a herd with less death. I know they are not doing well with the distribution of vaccines. They are number 24 on the list.  I have added a great site that shows vaccine roll out progression. It is updated frequently.
            
            https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/p … tered.html

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   GA Andersonposted 11 months ago

   That thread title sure deserved checking out. It didn't pass muster.
   
   Almost all links referred to one Miami Herald story that appeared to extrapolate a comment by an "official" that the administration was looking at ways to slow down the spread of a new Covid strain.
   
   However, multiple other links used different sources to deny the claim. The Miami Herald article even noted that Florida was not specifically mentioned as one of those "ways."
   
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      IslandBitesposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Shhhh. They need this. Let them have at least one.

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         Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         You're right.the left can't own the monopoly on unverified stories.

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         GA Andersonposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         Careful IslandMom. I have been noted to be one of 'them' and I don't need this as, "at least one," so maybe "they " don't either.
         
         GA

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            IslandBitesposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Do you consider yourself one of them?

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               GA Andersonposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               If I assume "them" is Trump supporters, no.
               
               GA

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                  Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  OH, the playground is getting overcrowded.  So, are you one of them, or one of us or blah blah blah?  On another thread I received an --- "We have you".   Better have the right answer or they will nah nah nah nah nah you.

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                  IslandBitesposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Then you don't have to worry.
                  
                  
                  And just because you're nice... I don't mean all Trump voters. "They" are the fringe elements in the forums that have been flapping in desperation lately.

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   Benoitsmidgetposted 11 months ago

   I agree that if he puts a border around Florida, Texas should do the same. Great thought process.

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      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I do agree, and Biden will bein bringing in immigrants that were waiting in Mexico this coming week. Seems until we see what's up with the new strain of COVID he should wait on that. What I have gleaned is that he has not really confirmed the travel ban in regard to Florida.  Actually, Florida's infection rate is way down, as is most states. Hopefully, we can see an end to the virus sooner than later.

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   Valeantposted 11 months ago

   Florida's daily cases are down to pre-holiday levels, but there's still 7,200 per day catching the virus.  2.2 million have received at least one dose of the vaccination of a 21.8 million total population.

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