What are the Great Things President Joe Biden Has Done While President

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  1. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 13 months ago

    This is, of course, an open question since he has just started his four years, but since the RINO Party is already saying defeating Covid and growing the economy is a disaster, I thought I would start a thread that proves them wrong.

    I just listed two things he has done:

    - Got America well on its way to putting the pandemic behind us
    - Started the economy growing again. Already he has decreased the Public Debt to GDP ratio from Trump's historic high of 131% to 127% in the span of three months.
    - First time unemployment claims are at pandemic lows for several weeks running now.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 266,000 in April, Hopefully, May's numbers will improve. Many states have removed the Bidens $300.00 incentive not to return to work. So we have a chance of seeing better numbers.

      Inflation speeds up in April as consumer prices leap 4.2%, fastest since 2008 We are in a recession. at this point. Gas prices souring, as well as consumer goods. It will be interesting to see if our economy corrects these problems. However, I bet not.  https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/consume … -2021.html

      Not sure why you feel Joe gets a gold star for his handling of COVID?

      I give total credit toTrump's Operation Warp Speed that has been truly the ones handling the Vaccine rollout. Not one of that teak was canned when Biden took office.

      He also has lost his bid to have the Jan 6th protest investigated by Congress.

      Then there is the border problem with drugs and migrants pouring at a record-breaking rate.  More fentanyl collected by border patrol in the first four months than all of 2020. Need I mention 22 thousand unaccompanied children we are now responsible for.

      Not sure you should have not waited a bit before celebrating Biden's first few months in office. He is failing on every count.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        "Many states have removed the Bidens $300.00 incentive not to return to work. So we have a chance of seeing better numbers." - Florida is one of those states and has a severe problem of hiring in "fast food" type businesses.  The enhanced unemployment ends mid-June. 

        I am open to believing that it maybe responsible for the hiring problems.  I also would not be surprised if it is other reasons some say.  Come July 1, we should know.

        As to the recession - Reuters reports this:

        "The U.S. economy is growing at its fastest rate since the early 1980s while household bank accounts are bulging with cash doled out by the federal government to blunt the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

        Over 900,000 jobs were added in March and a Reuters poll of economists expects just under one million more for April, although some forecasters expect double that gain.

        Is the United States still in recession?"

        But then follows up with this - "Common sense and a lot of data say no, but the Business Cycle Dating Committee, a panel organized by the National Bureau of Economic Research that acts as the official arbiter of U.S. recessions, has not yet pinned down an end date for the contraction it said started after February 2020, around the onset of the pandemic"

        My guess is the NBER will declare an end to the recession sometime around the end of July when the 2nd quarters numbers are in (assuming they show positive growth again)

        Inflation has been abnormally low since the Great 2008 recession.  I hate to see it, but inflation MUST grow because prices have been depressed for so long now.  The question is can the Fed keep it from increasing too much.

        As to gas prices, Trump, Biden, Congress, and hardly anybody else has control over that.  There are only a very few things that determine the price of oil, and therefore gas.  They are 1) supply, 2) demand, 3) market speculation, 4) events that potentially can impact the supply of oil (e.g. war, Trump getting out of the nuclear deal, Saudi Arabia getting pissed at the world), and 5) events that decrease demand (e.g. the pandemic).  Obviously a president can (and have in the past such as Bush 1'd defense of Kuwait and Bush 2's invasion of Iraq) or Congress can do things that lead to cause number 4, but it has to be pretty big and long
        lasting.

        The border problems with drugs have been there for generations and won't decline until America can solve its own addiction problem.  The problems with migrants won't go away until the reasons driving migrants to the US are reduced.

        This "failing on every count." is where you lose me because it is simply not true unless you claim he failed getting people vaccinated or got the economy growing again.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

          "Inflation in April accelerated at its fastest pace in more than 12 years as the U.S. economic recovery kicked into gear and energy prices jumped higher, the Labor Department reported Wednesday.

          The Consumer Price Index, which measures a basket of goods as well as energy and housing costs, rose 4.2% from a year earlier. A Dow Jones survey had expected a 3.6% increase. The month-to-month gain was 0.8%, against the expected 0.2%.

          Excluding volatile food and energy prices, the core CPI increased 3% from the same period in 2020 and 0.9% on a monthly basis. The respective estimates were 2.3% and 0.3%.

          The increase in the annual headline CPI rate was the fastest since September 2008, while the monthly gain in core inflation was the largest since 1981.

          Energy prices overall jumped 25% from a year earlier, including a 49.6% increase for gasoline and 37.3% for fuel oil. That came even though most energy categories saw a decline in April.

          Prices at the pump, which fell 1.4% in April, have resumed their climb in May, with the national average eclipsing $3 a gallon for the first time since November 2014, according to AAA. Further rises are likely from Friday’s cyberattack that shut down Colonial Pipeline’s main transmission line from Houston to New Jersey.

          Used car and truck prices, which are seen as a key inflation indicator, surged 21%, including a 10% increase in April alone. Shelter, another key CPI component, was up 2.1% year over year and 0.4% for the month."

          Source Article was written by

          Jeff Cox
          Finance EditorJeff Cox is the finance editor for CNBC.com where he manages coverage of the financial markets and Wall Street. His stories are routinely among the most-read items on the site each day as he interviews some of the smartest and most well-respected analysts and advisors in the financial world. He also is a frequent guest on CNBC.
          I have offered the facts that are relevant as of today.

          I have not added options, just known facts.
          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/consume … -2021.html

          And yes the economy may in the near further show better job growth due to people getting vaccinated and back to work. However, these are people that are returning to pre-Biden jobs. Biden has killed jobs, not created jobs.

          Biden's economy is faltering, and his policies will surely put the country into a depression if Congress can shove them into law. This administration is shockingly dangerous, and it would very much seem many American's are in a media-induced stupor.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            "Biden has killed jobs," - proof for this obviously false statement would be nice since facts state the opposite.

            "Biden's economy is faltering, " - proof for this obviously false statement would be nice since facts state the opposite.

            "This administration is shockingly dangerous," - proof for this obviously false statement would be nice since facts state the opposite.

            And what is the point of your article other than to state the obvious, that after prices have been artificially held down for all of these years, inflation is bound to happen.  No one should be surprised by this at all.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image82
              Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

              "Biden has killed jobs," - proof for this obviously false statement would be nice since facts state the opposite."

              TWO WORDS KEYSTONE PIPELINE

              "Biden's economy is faltering, " - proof for this obviously false statement would be nice since facts state the opposite.

              Maybe you could take that up with the stats Jeff Cox
              Finance EditorJeff Cox is the finance editor for CNBC.offered...


              "This administration is shockingly dangerous," - proof for this obviously false statement would be nice since facts state the opposite.

              Again Jeff Cox
              Finance EditorJeff Cox is the finance editor for CNBC says differently...


              "And what is the point of your article other than to state the obvious, that after prices have been artificially held down for all of these years, inflation is bound to happen.  No one should be surprised by this at all."

              Nothing was artificial about the Trump economy, all stats in regards to GPD, job growth, lowest unemployment, and to top it off a wonder strong stock market with great consumer confidence. If not for a worldwide pandemic we would have continued to enjoy a prosperous country.

              Now, we are tanking on all counts the Biden administration stands for nothing more than free free free which shows nothing but fiscal irresponsibility. Yet he and his cronies are aware none of his policies will or were expected to come to fruition. All cheap politicking promises.

              I think you would be better off sticking with insulting Trump than trying to bolster or support a man like Biden. Just saying

              I see you skipped over my comment where I laid out Joe's blunders with the three pipelines. These were all doozies.  I mean really huge mistakes. Poor judgments and one can see Biden is not presidential material. He is drowning in the problems he created.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                Oh, Keystone Pipeline, the environmental disaster waiting to happen?  Actually, it is already happening on the leg that already got completed by going around America's EPA laws which is leaking three times as much as pipes carrying normal crude.  There have already been a dozen spills from this pipeline - and now you want more.

                Of course you force me to repeat the truth.

                GDP - Trump and Obama were the same in the end.

                Job Growth - Obama did a much better job than Trump

                Unemployment - Trump did nothing to make it better, name me one policy HE created that impacted unemployment.  What you can say about Trump is he didn't screw up what Obama started.

                Stock Market Growth - In terms of percentage growth, Obama did better, in fact most previous presidents did better than Trump.  Biden is putting all of them to shame.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                  Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  Keystone Pipeline --- Slow down we were discussing your comment in regard to COVID death tole under Trump vs Biden. I see you're in a tizzy and trying to put space between our conversation.

                  When Biden took office there had been 400,000 deaths in 11.5 months.
                  At this point, Biden has been in office for 4.5 months the number added to the count is 212,219.  Today's number showing 612,219 deaths. As you can see the percentage of deaths is higher for Biden --- Just a fact   
                  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

                  Trump's policies stop China travel, provide the task force and you God Fauci.  He also provides us four vaccines by putting up cash for  5 companies to do research and development. All but Pfizer took cash. for research and development. Pfizer signed a huge contract to provide our vaccine before any other country, and the option to order millions of more doses as needed. Facts are facts. You can keep denying them, but they don't go away.   https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti … roundwork/

                  Without Trump's policies, Biden would be drowning in a disaster.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                    There you go again misrepresenting the facts again.  You need to get your timelines straight.

                    When Biden took office there were 459,000 deaths and active cases were just peaking.  In the next two weeks, another 50,000 died from those Trump era cases (which spiked like that because Trump FAILED in getting his base to take Covid seriously, hell, he not only failed, he actively made it worse).

                    It took Biden about 4 - 6 weeks to 1) develop a production and distribution plan [b]from scratch because Trump failed to make one[/b and then implement it.  So any deaths in that time frame are also on Trump.  That would be at least another 40,000.  So Biden's starting number can't be any less than 549,000.  So that at a minimum, 90% of the covid deaths resulted from Trump's ineptitude.

                    As I said before, good for Trump for authorizing Warp Speed which produced two vaccines in record time.

                    Bad for Trump for:

                    - Having no plan to distribute them
                    - Lying to America about how deadly virus was
                    - Encouraging Americans not to wear masks
                    - Encouraging Americans not to social distance
                    - Not reigning in RINO governors who played fast and loose with their citizens lives
                    - Not letting the paper tiger so-called Task Force do its job
                    - Not ... and the list is very long so I'll stop here.

                    Trump had virtually no policies and what ones he did have left America in a total mess which Biden now has to clean up.

                2. Sharlee01 profile image82
                  Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  I have nothing more to say in regards to the Trump economy or will I travel back to what his name economy. 

                  I from this point on am unwilling to feed into your obsession with Trump. We have a new administration, I am very much interested in keeping tabs on the now, and the future.

                  It is very clear you just can't digest facts even though I always take time to make every effort to provide facts. Not sure it healthy to ruminate on the past.

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            "Biden has killed jobs, not created jobs." - I will grant you that most new hires are into jobs lost during the pandemic, that only makes sense given we are still in a recession - but the fact is, he has added more than 2,000,000 jobs.

            Now, please tell what jobs has his policies killed?  What industries has his policies shut down or put into decline that didn't need to be like the Keystone Pipeline?

            And so what if inflation is above average right now?  It is just making up for being artificially low (mainly through Fed policy) for so long and then for the last year because of the pandemic.

            Now, if it doesn't head back down over the next six months, then you will have something to complain about, but not now.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image82
              Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

              As far as Ima concerned-- to make this short.

              Biden killed Keystone due to it being a Trump accomplishment. He could careless about the 11.000 jobs or the collateral damage... He is a tool

              He kissed Putin's ass by lifting the heavy sanctions that were placed on Russia by Congress. He's a tool

              Anyone in their right mind can see the hypocrisy in this ridiculous vendetta just maybe kidding themself.

              And if you feel you know more about inflation and predicting the economy than economists. Oh well

              The future under Biden remains to be seen. However, what I have seen is non-sensical, and in some cases could be very detrimental to the
              Country.

              But, have faith, it already appears many are having great
              buyer's remorse.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                "Biden killed Keystone due to it being a Trump accomplishment. " - Trump approved Keystone after Obama stopped it to reverse anything Obama did.  It was an environmentally disastrous decision which Biden FIXED.

                "He kissed Putin's ass by lifting the heavy sanctions that were placed on Russia by Congress." - Which sanctions on Russia did Biden lift?  I think you are passing on right-wing fake news (unless, of course, you are talking about Nord Stream which was done for national security reasons)

                Yes, I do know a lot about inflation because I was an economic analyst for the Air Force.  I took many courses in economics, I have listened to many lectures on various aspects of economics, I have written about economics, and I read the analysis and opinions of other economists.  What is your background?

                What constitutes "buyers remorse"?  Is it the trouncing Trump is taking in job approval polls from Biden?  What is Biden's range? 53 to 55%?  What was Trump's range? 38 to 45%.  Do you mean that buyers remorse?

                1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                  Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  Guess ya just won't read the list I provided you with two long pages of sanctions trump slapped Russia with... I give up.

                  Biden under fire from Congress for waiving sanctions on Russian gas pipeline company
                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation … s-n1267975
                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674
                  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/1 … ine-489437

                  It would seem you don't believe facts when provided or respond with any form of acknowledgment of the sources.

                  Lots of articles in regards to voter's buyer remorse...

      2. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Thought you might like to check out the polls today. The funny thing Trump and Biden have the same poll approval stats today on the chart. Biden is headed in the wrong direction.

        The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll,  for Wednesday shows that 49% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Biden’s job performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

        The latest figures include 29% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 40% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -11. (see trends)  https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public … ack_july07

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          538 likes their methodology so I do watch Rasmussen's polling.  I do, however, keep it firmly in mind they are historically biased to the Right, so having lower numbers for Biden (and higher numbers for Trump) is no surprise.

          I looked at their chart and I don't see where Biden and Trump have the same approval numbers.  It looks like Trump is 10 points lower.

          I also look at the RealClearPolitics trend.  It shows that Bidens nutmbers have been pretty steady since February.  His high was 55.8, shorly after he took office and would be expect to be his high point.  His low was 51.4, a few days ago.  It is currently 52.5.

          Now that is only a 4.4 point spread over the last four months, which is pretty stable as polling goes.  I would expect it to drop from his high because progressives are pissed off that he has taken a more pragmatic approach to governing and is trying (as much as the RINOs will let him) do things in a bipartisan manner.

          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … -7320.html


          On the other hand, Trump's job approval rating started out at 45.3 shortly after taking office and he hit a low of 37.1 in Dec 2017.  That is an 8.2 point swing.  After that he tracked between 43 and 45 for most of his term; significantly worse than Biden's current numbers.  Only once, on March 28, 2020, did Trump approach Biden's level when he averaged 47.1 before plunging back down to 41.6.

          As I said before, I expect Biden to track between 50 and 60%, depending on how mad the progressives are at him.

          What was Trump's average presidential approval rating?  Glancing through the history of Trump's Rasmussen numbers, I see many -11 numbers as well.

          I saw that YouGov, which tilts Blue about half as much as Rasmussen tilts right only has a -5 point differential of the same time period.

          1. Credence2 profile image80
            Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

            What is the Trumpers' explanation for the difference in the approval numbers between Trump and Biden?

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              You also have this.  Today, Trump sued those who kicked him off of their platforms because of his dangerous lies.  This might be the reason why - "In May, an analysis by NewsWhip, a social media tracking firm, found that interactions about him on social media have fallen 91% since January . ", lol

          2. Sharlee01 profile image82
            Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Oh my gosh, you know or should have caught that I was pulling your chain. I have expressed my view of polls to you on many occasions. I don't in any respect find them relative or to be honest, I just don't trust them.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Of course you don't, they don't give you the answers you need.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                Well, maybe your right. However, watching Biden go downhill makes me think I might have been wrong about trusting polls.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  "downhill", you mean like Trump? LOL.

            2. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Cmon Sharlee, you only distrust those polls that deliver information contrary to what you want to hear or believe.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                I have reconsidered my view --   Maybe the polls are showing a true picture of what American's are feeling about Biden. The daily polls do appear to indicate the countries view of Biden's poor job abilities, and lack of leadership. 

                Even Democrats are very disappointed with Joe... And it is showing in the polls.  "Biden’s Approval Takes a Hit, Driven by Sagging Hopes Among Democrats"

                "President Biden’s approval rating has taken a dip in recent weeks — but it’s not even close to the drop in support for Congress’s performance, as negotiations over legislation in Washington have ground to a virtual standstill.

                That’s the top-line takeaway from a national poll released on Wednesday by Monmouth University. But here’s the secondary message: Democrats are the ones growing most disillusioned, and fast.

                Back in April, when Mr. Biden was making big legislative strides, 83 percent of Democrats said they thought the country was moving in the right direction, according to a Monmouth survey at the time. But in Wednesday’s poll, just 59 percent of Democrats said that.

                The share of Democrats saying the country was on the wrong track rose by 20 percentage points, to 32 percent."   https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/us/p … ating.html

                https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit … 61621.pdf/

                1. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  I understand, but Biden would do a whole lot better when he realizes the mistake of trying to negotiate with Republican on this bipartisan stick is as futile as asking a grizzly to use the toilet.

                  The momentum for Biden has stopped because of Republicans and their deliberate obstruction. That needs to be eliminated thru the use of any and all tools within the Democrats' political tool boxes

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    Well, they certainly have a toolbox, but it might be time for them to understand their tools have become old, and inefficient. Biden knows Congress and he knew that he would be stymied by the rightwing of Congress.  He perhaps should have kept his campaign promises to a minimum, and more realistic.  It would also help if he stepped up and addressed current problems like the border. He ignores it as if there is not a problem as he does with a crime. These problems will plague him and keep his jib approval low. Plus, the chatter on the street is all about Biden's lack of leadership in solving problems or at best recognizing problems as such.  The old political shell game --- look here not there, does not work any longer. Hey, just my opinion, I see him going down fast. Maybe the polls are accurate after all.

                  2. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    I guess I am more of a pragmatist and believe that IF Biden can achieve a bipartisan deal on the infrastructure-lite bill, it would be worth the effort for America.  At the moment, it does look like he has the votes - if the Progressives don't sink it wanting the perfect over the doable.

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  I often will look at individual polls to see what the details say (I never pay attention to the headlines that go with them since they are mostly attention grabbing hyperbole).  But to see a much truer picture of the trend and deviations, I look at averages of polls, such as those published by RealClearPolitics.

                  In the case of Biden Job Approval (and I have already pointed this out) the averages show no particular trend other than what one would normally expect from early in a term to a little bit down the road.  As you can see in the link below, Biden's Approval numbers have remained fairly constant with a small range between the high (55.7) and low averages (51.4).  Average those two numbers and you get 55.3, which is just a little bit above 52.5 it is currently at.  These numbers put a lie to the headlines you quote.

                  I also need to remind you again, since you refuse to recognize it, that one of the things putting downward pressure on Biden's numbers is the pragmatic way he is trying to do his job working with Republicans where he can.  The Progressives don't like that.  They, like the RINOs, don't want real legislation, they just want headlines.

                  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … -7320.html

                  As to Right Direction, your baseline is what it was during the Trump administration - which was a dismal 35% until it tanked with the pandemic.  On the other hand, under Biden, it is much better, averaging around 42%, the highest since 2009 when people were seeing evidence Obama's stimulus was pulling America out of a near Depression.  Given that, I suggest that your assessment of how terrible things are is way off base.

                  People are feeling pretty good today compared the Trump (or even Obama) administration.

                  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … y-902.html

                  I couldn't find any other polls to back up or disprove your claim about the Monmouth poll.

                  A recent study of what happened during the 2020 election, compared to the 2016 election, came up with these results:

                  - Biden gained more ground with voters in all age groups except between 30 - 44 than Trump did.  While both improved in the 30 - 44, Trump improved more.

                  - Trump actually improved his results slightly in Urban areas.
                  - But, he gave up a lot ground in both Suburban and Rural areas


                  - Trump improved with those that had a high school diploma or less
                  - Trump did worse with those that had some college
                  - Both improved slightly with those who had college degrees
                  - Biden did better with those who had post-graduate degrees.

                  - Biden did relatively better than Trump with both men and women than Clinton did
                  - Biden improved with White Men while Trump declined
                  - Trump did relatively better with White Women than Biden, although both improved
                  - Biden lost voters with Black and Latino Men and Women while Trump improved quite a bit.  It was more pronounced with the Latino Men.

                  - Over all, Biden did better than Clinton with people making less than $100,000 than Trump did between the two elections
                  - Trump's biggest gain was with people who earned between $100K and $200K

                  - This is what killed Trump, he did a lot poorer with Moderate voters in 2020 than he did in 2016 while Biden did a lot better than Clinton.
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      3. gmwilliams profile image83
        gmwilliamsposted 5 months agoin reply to this

        Biden is an ABYSMAL FAILURE as president, even a smart 10 year old is COGNIZANT of this.

        1. Valeant profile image88
          Valeantposted 5 months agoin reply to this

          Well, writing with caps certainly fits the 10-year old description.

        2. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 5 months agoin reply to this

          Spoken like a true delusional Trump Republican.

    2. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      When I walk around a see so many "help wanted" signs, I think that we are on the way back. More jobs than there are people to fill them, I haven't seen that for a while. So, we have an employees market, and wages and working conditions in certain industries will have to improve or people will avoid these jobs and stay home with papa, even if all the unemployment benefits are cut.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image87
        Ken Burgessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        There are plenty of people to fill those jobs.

        The jobs are not offering enough money, so no one is willing to fill them.

        I see this adjustment in realities today, where in order to get someone to do a job that paid $11.00 three years ago, you now have to pay $15.00.

        If wages don't adjust, the people won't do those jobs... or you get what you pay for, terrible employees.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Amen

        2. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          "The jobs are not offering enough money, so no one is willing to fill them."

          Or at least they aren't offering as much as Uncle Sam is offering to stay at home. 

          I would observe that if wages have risen 36%, from $11 to $15, in just 3 years we have a really major problem on our hands in the form of runaway inflation.  Businesses can't afford that kind of increase without increasing prices, and higher paid employees are going to demand the same thing as prices rise and they watch unskilled labor being paid what the same thing they are. 

          But I'm not seeing that in my area.  Starting wage is nearly the same as it was - around $10 - and hasn't changed much.  Take away what Uncle Sam is giving them as "unemployment" because of the pandemic (that no longer exists, from a job perspective, in my area), and those jobs will be filled pronto.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image76
            Castlepalomaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            With grand inflation and wages growth of 36%.

            Bring back the Latino labour and Chinese goods to help balance. Civil wars and shut down of free markets won't help.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              Neither will removing American workers from earning a wage.  It might, short term, result in lower prices, but that will catch up after those without jobs demand that others support them, whereupon those with jobs demand more money because they now have to support multiple families.

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              I have no idea what you are talking about Castle.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                Castlepalomaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                Canada with its diverse cultures and international trade is our strength that US once had and now loosing. Until US starting too much divided labels, cancel cultures and trade. Cheaper labour and Chinese products make a better balance here in Canada.

                Think I have run out of ideas upon deaf ears for any  solutions for the US.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                  Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  I will say you have provided lots of food for thought...

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            There are three possible things economists think are leading to the inability to staff low wage jobs: 1) the problems associated with not all schools being open, 2) fear of catching Covid, and 3) the unemployment bonus.  Only time will tell which one(s) had the most impact.

            In Florida, the bonus goes away in mid-June.  Come July, we will find out if the unemployment bonus was a factor.

            " pandemic (that no longer exists" - you do live in a fantasy world don't you?  Why don't you ask the families of the 550 people (mostly Trump supporters) who still die a day if the pandemic is over.  Or ask the 20,000 a day still catching Covid.  I bet they will all laugh in your face.

        3. Kathryn L Hill profile image75
          Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          My surmise is that many people don't need money at the present time. Maybe they have discovered they don't need so much, they have enough to live on and / or, that free-time is very enjoyable. When they need money, they'll go back to work.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Then there are these other reasons such as:

            1. Until recently, fear of catching Covid by being forced back to work from the cut-off of unemployment in there state. I recently posted the story of one such woman.  Of coarse, this reason now really only applies to those that have valid reasons for not getting vaccinated, which she apparently did.

            2.  Child care is still unaffordable in many places.

            3. Some people need time to find the right job and may need to relocate

            4. Available jobs do not offer women with children flexible options who can't afford child care.

            https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/nobel-w … work-.html

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image75
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              More guesses:

              Women are going back to work sooner than young men who are at home on their games, (being catered to by overly indulgent parents.)

              More men are home taking care of children.

              Older workers are not going back to work because they decided to retire.

              Those who are working know there's a chance of dying from Covid but they also know that if they don't work, they and their loved ones will die.

              The youth who could be working at entry level jobs would rather not work next to low-pay undocumented workers.

              The youth are not trained for higher level jobs as they cannot compute, write or deal with other humans effectively.
              .

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              And there are these reasons as well

              "They're in this situation because during the pandemic, many workers were laid off, as safety measures required some restaurants to close dining entirely. Eventually, when restaurants started re-hiring, they found a smaller pool of potential employees. Some moved away, others found new jobs in other industries. Some are still staying home to care for children or other dependents. Some, fed up with what are often low wages for the arduous work, vowed never to return."

              1. Credence2 profile image80
                Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                I think that it is great that now it is "labor" rather than capital that have the upper hand in today's job market.

                It is like the President said, things are going to get rough for employers unless they pay more and offer better benefits to potential employees.

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image75
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  ... whoever  n e e d s  work, (to earn money,) will take whatever work they can get. Employers can only do what they can do.

                  1. Credence2 profile image80
                    Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    When have you ever seen a circumstance like this one in the recent past?

                    Meanwhile the businesses will hemorrhage waiting for those employees to reach the point of starvation before they return to work. How long can business afford to wait?

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  For my own business, moving to $15/hr right now minimum would mean shutting down (and firing 50 people) or laying off a lot of workers to cut costs, while putting even more work on those remaining. Our payroll is around a million dollars a year.

                  We do not have the luxury of raising our prices to accommodate as our clients will simply move from a company that provides a lot of service and flexibility to the industry giants that don't.

                  There are a LOT of small businesses in the same boat as I am.  What I suspect will happen, so long as we keep Democrats in office, is the gov't will now have to start subsidizing those who can't afford $15/hr.

                  We have managed to raise starting pay from $10 to $12/hr and our pay ranges from $12 to $25/hr.  As conditions allow, we keep pushing that up.

                  This is why I oppose any minimum wage at all and support transfering that function to an expanded Earned Income Tax Credit.

                  1. Credence2 profile image80
                    Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    I can't claim to be in your place nor understand your situation. It seems to me that the very concept of small business is being "Amazoned" and "Walmarted" out of existence. What chance do you really have?

                    It is becoming more difficult to live on the wages provided on the bottom rungs of the economic ladder. The part of central Florida I live in is seeing a stark increase in real estate costs, when it was recently a sleepy backwater. Urban areas and  entire states are forced to disregard the $7.25 and hour minimum. Regardless of what conservatives may say, the minimum wage has lost a great deal of buying power over the last 50 years. If people can't afford to live on what their being paid, you are suggesting the that tax payer subsidizes the difference between what is a reasonable cost to live and what employers are willing to pay? Conservatives would much rather create Dickensian society of beggars that include women and children, then pressure the capitalist class to move away from a piecework, sweatshop mentality.

                    I can't imagine a society without a minimum wage as I noted that virtually every country in the world has one, and there has to be a reason for that.

                    I paid 15 cents for a MCD cheese burger in 1965, now I pay $2.50 for the same sandwich. I cannot think of ever really evading the reality of inflation, just its extent.

                    You and I know that the Rightwingers would virtually have a cow regarding encroaching socialism that would be involved in basically having the government subsidize a guaranteed wage for everyone. Is that not part of what the Earned Income Tax Credit would involve?

              2. Kathryn L Hill profile image75
                Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Where are the young men?
                -  overseas in the military? working for Amazon?  at university? at home?

                1. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Anywhere except at the piecework factories they are being invited to return to...

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image75
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    In the 70's I worked at Hood River pear/apple Cannery. I had to stand in one place sorting pears on a conveyor belt. My friend had it much better. He got to sit with the ladies and peel. I would see him from my lofty location chatting merrily with the ladies. I consciously hallucinated to endure the boredom of sorting large, medium and small sized pears. It took me three months of this type of work to determine to get my degree and teaching credentials, no matter what it took. So, here I agree with you!

                    Nevertheless, the money I made helped me continue my travels and get back home to enroll in college.
                    Money is money.

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  The sad fact is that labor group was forced out of the market.  When I was young, a long, long time ago, I started out working at McDonalds and Taco Bell.  Everybody else there, save the manager, were in my age group. That is where the young first started getting their job experience.

                  Flash forward to 2013 during the recovery from the Great 2008 Conservative Recession.  Younger workers were being replaced by older workers trying to earn a long-term, normal living on $7.25/hr.  Until the pandemic, that dynamic only got worse. 

                  Why would these businesses hire the older worker instead of the young men?  Older workers are more reliable with less costly turnover.

    3. Kyler J Falk profile image89
      Kyler J Falkposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      As far as I know, RINO is an acronym for "republican in name only" and that would make them for your side, no? Everything else is a big "yikes" from me.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        That is exactly what RINO stands for and as I point out in another forum I created on the subject, today's so-called Republican Party bears no resemblance to the Republican Party Abraham Lincoln started.  For the most part, Lincoln's party holds principles that are diametrically opposed to today's Republican Party which is why a much more correct label is RINO. 

        Who is today's RINO party more in line with philosophically?  The conservative southern Democrats of Andrew Jackson's era.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Is that an insinuation that the Democrat party, with it's massive give-away programs, total fiscal irresponsibility and ever growing demands for more government control over people's lives is the same as what it began as?

          Or have both changed beyond recognition from what they were?  Are Democrats DINO's - Democrats in Name Only as a result?  (Note that the name DINO is singularly appropriate as a Dinosaur - the biggest land animals to ever walk the earth - and DINO's want the biggest government possible.)

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Nope, you are entirely correct - DINO is appropriate when comparing today's Democrats to yesterdays Democrats.  Fortunately, the Democrats dropped their pro-slavery, anti-civil rights, conservative past and took on the mantle (mostly) of Lincoln's liberal Republican Party (which also was the party of a strong federal government)

            "Or have both changed beyond recognition from what they were? " - Don't say that too loud because there are many so-called Republicans on these forums who will crucify you over that TRUTH.  On the other hand, it is my opinion, because I don't have any observations to back this up, that most forum participants on the Left would very much agree with you and are happy that Democrats moved on to a much better place and are now on the right side of history.

            On the other hand, it is the RINOs who took their once great party over to the Dark Side.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image82
              Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

              "On the other hand, it is the RINOs who took their once great party over to the Dark Side."

              Or has the new Republican party just morphed into the Kennedy era democrat?  Don't ask what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country"...  The Dems of that era buffered their ideologies with common sense. As Republicans have always been known for. We have not gone to the Darkside, just tweaking our party to put America, and American's first, and then consider where we can make a true difference in other lands.

              Another thought the DINO's became extinct, whereas RINO's have thrived...

        2. Castlepaloma profile image76
          Castlepalomaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Eso

          Biden is around the same pace as Trumps covid deaths stats.

          To compare Lincoln civil war American deaths to covid death on a per capita basis. Multiple civil war deaths by more than 100 times greater than covid. Wail half the US population were slaves.
          Not the greatest examples.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Your claim that "Biden is around the same pace as Trumps covid deaths stats." is demonstrably incorrect.

            On the other hand, without doing the math, I would say your claim about relative deaths on a per capita basis is probably correct for the Civil War; maybe even WW II.  That is the problem with using raw numbers over time, they lose context.

            But in terms of visualizing the devastation caused by Covid and Trump's failed policies toward it, it is still a valid comparison.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image76
              Castlepalomaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              Trump was 375,000 covid death the end of 2020.
              Death now 600,000 and part of 2020 Biden was elected. So its close to par and  covid deaths with Trump. Plus at this time a year ago, covid deaths are higher.

            2. Sharlee01 profile image82
              Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

              When Biden took office there had been 400,000 deaths in 11.5 months.
              At this point, Biden has been in office for 4.5 months the number added to the count is 212,219.  Today's number showing 612,219 deaths. As you can see the percentage of deaths is higher for Biden --- Just a fact   
              https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

              Trump's policies stop China travel, provide the task force and you God Fauci.  He also provides us four vaccines by putting up cash for  5 companies to do research and development. All but Pfizer took cash. for research and development. Pfizer signed a huge contract to provide our vaccine before any other country, and the option to order millions of more doses as needed. Facts are facts. You can keep denying them, but they don't go away.   https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti … roundwork/

              Without Trump's policies, Biden would be drowning in a disaster.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                Castlepalomaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                CDC: Half of US adults are fully vaccinated against COVID-19The U.S. passed a major milestone Tuesday when it was reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that more than half of Americans over the age of 18 are now fully vaccinated.

                You would think the death toll would better than last year.

                In pharmaceutical we trust, has a scary thought after all the lab animals died from the tests.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  Are you saying it isn't?  The average daily death toll per million in 2020 was roughly 6.5.  Today it is about 1.6 (mostly RINO).  Seems like quite a reduction to me.

    4. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      I thought you may want to put this on the list to "Great Things Joe Biden Has Done While President"

      Hey Joe what the hell did you do?

      January 20, Biden’s very first day as president, he shut down the Keystone XL pipeline. He gave11,000  citizens that had high-paying jobs the boot, many unionized. While these unemployed American workers went on unemployment,  Russian President Vladimir Putin most likely toasted Biden with a nice cold shot of Vodka.

      Canadian oil now is trapped underground, Keystone’s cancellation curbed long-term supplies of crude oil. and quickly boosted global prices for Russia’s key export.   Indeed, for this and other reasons, crude has crept from $53-per-barrel at Biden’s inauguration to over  $66  — up 25%

      Let's move on to the second feature in Joe's circus --- The Colonial Pipeline. Which was shut down on May 7 after a Russian ransomware attack.   Carteresque gasoline lines soon stretched from Georgia to Washington, D.C.  What did Ol' Joe do? He hides in the White House and is silent until May 10, when he offered up a  tepid blurb that exonerated the Kremlin. where was Biden’s outrage? Where was Biden’s outrage? Why did he not publicly demands that Putin answer for this hack?

      No, what he did was to then rewarded the Kremlin for its acquiescence in the Colonial caper by scrapping sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline between Russia and Germany.    Biden was asked by the press why he decided to take such a step.

      Boden --- "Because it’s almost completely finished, number one," he replied. Biden then continues on with these confusing words. "The idea that anything that — and it’s not like I can allow Germany to do something they’re not."  This sentence makes no sense whatsoever... No really!  (this man is senile.)

      I must also point out Biden’s betrayal also fails on environmental grounds. Germany will not import American liquefied natural gas, as President Donald J. Trump pressed Chancellor Angela Merkel to do.  Nor will Germany swap gas for wind farms, solar panels, or geothermal plants. Instead, Germany will burn Russian natural gas. While that fuel is one-third cleaner than oil and twice as clean as coal, Germany and some neighboring nations still will turn gas into energy and carbon dioxide. So Joe, what about your concern about the environment?  Does this all seem half-ass backward?

      Page 308 of Keystone’s environmental impact statement says that its oil would have generated up to 178 million metric tons of CO2 annually.  What did Joe state?  "Killing Keystone was a beautiful thing."

      Nord Stream 2 would carry up to 55 billion cubic meters of natural gas from Ust-Luga, Russia to Greifswald, Germany. That gas, according to Gen Less’s online calculator, would generate 132 million metric tons of CO2. So, by speeding Nord Stream 2, Biden will have combusted 74 percent of the anti-global-warming "benefit" that he created by junking Keystone.

      Environmentalists should be enraged.

      "Gazprom’s Nord Stream 2 will add $3.3 billion to Russia’s annual GDP, Statista estimates. Though a tidy sum, the Kremlin’s jackpot is geopolitical.

      "Nord Stream 2 would enable the Putin regime to further weaponize Russia’s energy resources to exert political pressure throughout Europe," four bipartisan U.S. House members warned Secretary of State Antony Blinken in a February 17 letter. " Oh Well... Plus, The majority of Europe also opposes the Kremlin-backed pipeline,

      IMO Russia’s obvious intention has been to form an alliance with Germany and Austria (also with the Netherlands and Belgium) against Eastern and Northern Europe. NS2 is Russia’s most daring attempt to break up the EU.  Oh well...

      Finally -- Finally, Biden announced that he will meet on June 16, 2021with Putin in Geneva, following G-7 and NATO conclaves.   So it is evident that Putin will pay not even pay a diplomatic price after citizens corked U.S. fuel supplies in exchange for a $4.4 million Bitcoin ransom. Oh Well...

      This president Biden has clearly squandered Trump’s hard-won America's energy independence, added 11,000 American pipeline workers to America's unemployment lines, and screwed up Trump’s diplomacy, which had Germany now depending on Russia for natural gas. Now, Germany will become addicted — not to U.S. liquefied natural gas, but gas from the very adversary that NATO was designed to defeat. Oh well...

      So sorry for so many words. However, Bidens' actions in regard to the two pipelines, have provided consequences that need to be considered.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        "Canadian oil now is trapped underground, " - Canadian Tar Sand Oil is the worst kind of oil on the planet and is an environmental disaster.  If they want to produce it, let them destroy the forests it is under, process it in Canada and then ship the much safer products to America or elsewhere.  We don't want there gunk spoiling our land through frequent oil leaks that is already happening in pipes they snuck through the system.

        It should be "Nixonesque" not "Carteresque".  In case you forgot, Nixon was president during the long gas lines.  It did happen again, during Carter, after Iran jacked up prices, but it was nothing compared to Nixon.

        "This president Biden has clearly squandered Trump’s hard-won America's energy independence, " - Trump's hard won ..., LOL.  Trump didn't do diddly, we became energy independent under Obama.

        "Germany will not import American liquefied natural gas, as President Donald J. Trump pressed Chancellor Angela Merkel to do. " - WHY?  Could it because American LNG is much more expensive to Germany?  You also failed to mention that Perry DID complete a deal with Poland.

        https://www.economist.com/the-economist … -in-europe

        Yet this from Trump isn't senile??? "So right at the beginning, I said, “That’s the man.” And there was nobody better at that. And I think Hillary had 28 people, and I had Dan. Right? I had my Dan! And he works about 28 hours a day, and he works very hard. But he doesn’t work. I mean, he loves it. He loves it. And his imagination, and really working with all of you, and many of you. He’ll come up with ideas, and you’ll come up with ideas. And he’ll run into my office, he says, “You got to see this.” And a lot of times I’ll go out, and I’ll spend a lot of money on a concept. I’ll say, “Here’s a concept. Come up with this.” And we’ll hire these companies, and they want a lot of money, and they come back. Just happened the other day, right? I said, “That’s terrible. These guys have no talent.”"

        BTW - Why didn't Trump stop Nord Stream 2 when he had the chance?  He had three years to do something but failed miserably.

        As to Nord Stream 2 sanctions.  Biden didn't lift all of the sanctions and for those he did, apparently not wanting to cause a transatlantic rift with Germany while at the same time trying to repair all of the damage Trump did took precedence national security wise.  I ask again, why didn't Trump try to stop it?  Could it be he had a deal with Putin?

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

          "BTW - Why didn't Trump stop Nord Stream 2 when he had the chance?  He had three years to do something but failed miserably."


          Why didn't trump stop NS2 when he had the chance?  He did. have the construction shut down due to sanctions.  There has been no president in many Decades that was harder on Russia.  I have offered the link time and again on the list of sanctions Trump put on Russia. It would seem you just are not willing to have a look at the huge list. That would be your problem, but facts are facts.

          First I hate to tell you the NS2 was started on Obamas time...
          The first line of Nord Stream (also known as Nord Stream 1[1]) was laid by May 2011 and was inaugurated on 8 November 2011.[2][3] The second line of Nord Stream was laid in 2011–2012 and was inaugurated on 8 October 2012. At 1,222 km (759 mi) in length, Nord Stream is the longest sub-sea pipeline in the world, surpassing the Langeled pipeline. So yes when they say much was built that is a fact. It has been being worked on since 2011. Construction of Nord Stream 2 in Germany began in 2016.

          Trump put sanctions on Russia shortly after entering office. He did hold off a bit due to the sanctions were put together by the Obama administration. The NS2  was affected by the first set of Russian sanctions Trump put on Russia.

          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- … SKBN29O1XL

          THEN 2019 --- Again Trump puts sanction on Russia that affects the building of NS2
          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50875935

          THEN Jan 18 2021  before leaving the office slammed Russia once again with sanctions that were meant to deter the completion of the pipeline.
          https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/worl … -ship.html

          Then comes Old kiss butt Joe... He lifted the Trump sanctions.
          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation … s-n1267975

          Just because you say it does not make it true...

    5. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      WOW! Biden adds back 559,000 jobs in May (that is over 2.000,000 since February! yet the conservatives says Biden is, lol, losing jobs) and the UE rate plummets to 5.8%. Also, the stock market is higher that Trump ever hoped it would be.  And yesterday, 1st time unemployment dropped to below 400,000, the lowest level since the early days of the pandemic - AGAIN.

      What's not to like?

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Guess the red states that cut the $300.00 extra bucks paid off.  Finally seeing Trump's record-breaking economy coming out of its respite.  The Biden administration certainly has thrown up roadblocks. However, the Trump economy was built strong and thriving.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Nice try, that hasn't had an effect yet.  For example, Florida doesn't stop payments for another week or two yet, lol.

          Again, it is only the fake right-wing media and Trump supporters who think Trump's economy was so-called record breaking.  The ONLY two things that broke records was the DOW Jones (which is a poor indicator of the state of the economy) and unemployment.  The rest of his record was no better than or even worse than Obama's.  When will you look at REAL numbers and come to understand that instead of pushing a very false narrative?

          And finally, because Trump so bungled the response to the pandemic, the economy got a lot worse than it should have.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image82
            Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Sorry fact say differently ---

            Let us examine the success in the first three years of his administration before the coronavirus flattened the economy. The unemployment rate fell less than 4 percent, which was near the lowest in HALF  a century.
            The inflation rate fell to 1 percent, which was even below the target level set by the Federal Reserve. This has kept the interest rates on mortgages and many other loans down to the lowest level in modern times.

            The portion who fell below the poverty line declined to the lowest level EVER  recorded in 2019.

            The wealth of households, including their stocks, savings, and real estate, rose to the highest level IN HISTORY.

            The Census Bureau saw the median income rise to above $65,000, up by more than $5,000 in three years and double the gains from the last decade.

            Almost all of these benefits were most pronounced for minorities, notably Blacks and Hispanics. 

            The best-ever quarterly GDP growth rate has been 33.4% for the third quarter (Q3) of 2020.

            Like I said Trump truly broke records, he worked hard to provide the American people one of the very best economies in our history. Biden already has us in a rut with prices rising quickly on EVERYTHING... Inflation is evident.
            https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/business … index.html

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickhelfen … 97507ae743

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              Sighhhh - didn't you read what I wrote?  I gave you the unemployment stat.  Even though it was simply a continuation of what Obama started, it did get that low under Trump.

              Your inflation reference is fake news.  You said, without specifying a time, it "fell to 1%" - Not under Trump it didn't.  For the years he was president it was 2.1% (2017), 2.4% (2018), 1.8% (2019), and 1.3% (2020 covid),  FYI - the Fed's target rate is 2%, which Trump missed 2 out of the 3 years without the effect of Covid.  SO, DO you want to restate your claim?

              Now, compare that to Obama from 2009 - 2016 where Obama was below your own metric for 7 out of the 8 years he was president!  How was Trump better than Obama in that regard?  He wasn't, he was Worse.

              "The wealth of households, including their stocks, savings, and real estate, rose to the highest level IN HISTORY." - While true, it misrepresents the real world.  The more important statistic is that this wealth you are so proud of is concentrated in historically fewer hands.  The Record that Trump set was the largest wealth gap since the 1920s.  I bet he is happy with that outcome.

              I will also give you the poverty rate at 7.8% for 2019.  But while I take it at face value, everybody knows Trump loved to try to fudge the numbers to make himself look good.  Consider, since its Great recession high of 11.8 in 2010, it fell to 9.8 in 2016.  It then declined to 9.3, 9.3, 9.0 in 2018.  Then it fell dramatically to 7.8% - it has NEVER fallen that dramatically since they been keeping records.  So, you can understand that given Trump's penchant for cooking the books, I take that 7.8% with a grain of salt.

              Now on to your so-called historic rise in median income:  Yes, it is impressive, but like poverty rate, it is a-historic, an outlier in other words.  Why? Because the survey it is based on may have issues.  It seems that the Economic Policy Institute discovered this -

              "And yet there’s reason to put a big old asterisk on the data for 2019. Although the data release includes information about 2019 only, the data was collected between February and April of this year, right as the pandemic began to spread rapidly and most of the country was locked down. This Census paper discusses some of the impacts the pandemic had on data collection efforts. Overall, nonresponse increased significantly and was more strongly associated with income than in previous years, with nonresponse decreasing as income increases, meaning that income data could be skewed higher than it actually was. Respondents were also less likely to be Black and more likely to be white or Hispanic. Using that information, researchers at the Census provided new estimates for household income over the last four years, provided as a separate working paper and not adjusted in the official Census report."  SO, only time will tell if those numbers can be trusted.

              You won't let me talk about Trump's 2020 pandemic economic record (which is TERRIBLE) why should this reckless claim be given any credibility - "The best-ever quarterly GDP growth rate has been 33.4% for the third quarter (Q3) of 2020?  Why didn't you mention in the same breath that the 2nd quarter 2020 was NEGATIVE 31.4% or that 1st Qtr was NEGATIVE 5% or Q4 was only 4.3%?  Isn't what you presented called a deception?

              Of course you didn't bother mentioning that Biden's 1st Qtr 2021 GDP was a very healthy 6.4% why?  Now, if I were being disingenuous, I would have said that there hasn't been a quarterly growth like that since 1984.  But I won't because I know it is an artifact of the economic recovery from the pandemic and doesn't represent anything more than things are getting better under Biden.

              BTW - this INFLATION is a good thing because it show things are improving nicely.  The question is, can it be kept under control?

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 13 months agoin reply to this

                Once again, I offered you my opinion, and I offered sources that helped me come to my opinion. An economy is certainly not always measure by unemployment rates. There are many variables to consider, as my comment offered an explanation.  We are in a rescission, in my view due to the Biden administration's poor decision-making, and rhetoric. His rhetoric is causing poor consumer confidence, and we are seeing rising prices and people drawing back from spending. We are on our way to big problems. I certainly hope I am wrong.

                Let us examine the success in the first three years of his administration before the coronavirus flattened the economy. The unemployment rate fell less than 4 percent, which was near the lowest in HALF  a century.
                The inflation rate fell to 1 percent, which was even below the target level set by the Federal Reserve. This has kept the interest rates on mortgages and many other loans down to the lowest level in modern times.

                The portion that fell below the poverty line declined to the lowest level EVER  recorded in 2019.

                The wealth of households, including their stocks, savings, and real estate, rose to the highest level IN HISTORY.

                The Census Bureau saw the median income rise to above $65,000, up by more than $5,000 in three years and double the gains from the last decade.

                Almost all of these benefits were most pronounced for minorities, notably Blacks and Hispanics.

                The best-ever quarterly GDP growth rate has been 33.4% for the third quarter (Q3) of 2020.

                Like I said Trump truly broke records, he worked hard to provide the American people one of the very best economies in our history. Biden already has us in a rut with prices rising quickly on EVERYTHING... Inflation is evident.
                https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/business … index.html

                https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickhelfen … 97507ae743

    6. Live to Learn profile image75
      Live to Learnposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Let’s be realistic. Operation warp speed was a success which gave us vaccines. All this administration had  to do was make certain they were made available to the public. So operation warp speed allowed the economy to open which created jobs. Biden laying claim to anything other than successfully making the vaccines available is a bit of a stretch.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image76
        Castlepalomaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        It maybe an unwritten law now.

        Vaccinated people now can punch unvaccinated in the face.
        That pretty well, says it all.

        1. Live to Learn profile image75
          Live to Learnposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Scary. The holier than though attitude of many Americans on this subject does appear to make them believe they can assault each other over vaccinations.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image76
            Castlepalomaposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Alot of pushback is now starting to happen. It must happen or we will be totally owned by the powers to be.

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Let's be realistic - While the Warp Speed was a success, it was the ONLY approval Trump can claim regarding the pandemic, every other thing he did made things worse, much worse including his flubbed roll-out of the vaccine (which he did really care if Americans got).  It took Biden to do the hard work of getting shots in a lot of arms. 

        Even hear, because of RINO stupidity, he will have a hard time getting America to herd immunity.  Too many RINOs still believe Trump's exhortations that the virus isn't that bad and not to worry about it (600,000 deaths later)

        No, Operation Warp Speed DID NOT allow the economy to open.  It was Biden's push to get the resulting vaccines in arms that did - and we are still not there.  There are several RINO states subject to additional waves of infection because they refuse to get vaccinated.  Based on his Dec/Jan roll-out debacle, Trump would still be trying to figure out how to 1) get those vaccines produced and 2) how to get people to take them (remember, he hasn't even pushed his own supporters to get vaccinated!, He would still be telling them not to wear masks and not to social distance and that the pandemic was over in May 2020)

        1. Live to Learn profile image75
          Live to Learnposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          I watched a congressional hearing the other day with the CDC and NIH heads claiming not much over half of their employees have been vaccinated. I don’t think all of those are the RINOs and, to be honest, had I known so many in those ranks would refuse the vaccine I might have been less inclined to get vaccinated.

          What do they know that scares them?

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            I see you fell for more conservative Fake News again.  Here is the TRUTH.

            "Federal health officials testified at a Senate committee hearing that about 60% of their employees have been vaccinated against COVID-19 so far. But viral online posts have distorted their comments to misleadingly claim that half of the employees “are refusing” the vaccines. The officials did not say anyone had refused to get vaccinated."

            https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/scich … cinations/

            Even in my own office, none of which are RINO's (or even real Republicans), only 4 of 7 of us are vaccinated.  One hold out will be vaccinated shortly and the other two are afraid of the short-term after effects of the shots.

            1. Live to Learn profile image75
              Live to Learnposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              Ok maybe it is just your desire to belittle but, honestly, in my opinion 60% equates to not much more than 50%. We are saying the same thing. Does that mean you fell  for the same thing I fell  for?

    7. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Biden has already gotten GDP back up to the level it was before the Trump-Pandemic Recession.

      The stock market continues to soar under Biden.

    8. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Because of Joe Biden and his administrations great competency in getting the vaccine in people's arms so fast, some hospitals are reporting they are Covid Free

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/06/us/us-co … index.html

      (Although sadly, in those states resisting vaccination, some hospitals are seeing another surge)

    9. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      I am happy to read that the plug is being pulled on the environmentally devesting Keystone XL pipeline.  I thank you Joe Biden (and Barak Obama), the world thanks you, and the earth thanks you.

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/energy/k … index.html

    10. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      "Started economy growing again"

      Really?
      June 10 021U.S. consumer prices soar again and push CPI inflation rate to a 13-year high. The numbers: The cost of living surged again in May and drove the pace of inflation to a 13-year high of 5%, reflecting a broad increase in prices confronting Americans. The consumer price index jumped 0.6% last month to mark the fourth large gain in a row, the government said Thursday

      The rate of inflation over the past year escalated to 5% from 4.2% in the prior month. That put it at the highest level since 2008, when the cost of oil hit a record $150 a barrel.

      Another closely watched measure of inflation that omits volatile food and energy also shot up 0.7% in May. The 12-month rate climbed to 3.8% from 3%, a 29-year high.

      Not sure about where this kind of inflation will lead us. So you may have given credit where it is not due.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        First you quote ""Started economy growing again" - and then disagree with "Really? June 10 021U.S. consumer prices soar again and push CPI inflation rate to a 13-year high. "  - People who understand economics know that one has nothing to do with the other.  You can have a growing economy with little inflation or you can have a growing economy with a lot of inflation (although it is almost impossible to have a growing economy with negative inflation).  Consequently, what you said makes no sense at all.

        All that data, I am sure, is correct.  But at this point in time it doesn't mean much.  You can look at this way, the economy is reacting to a decade of artificially low inflation.  Like anything that is prevented from reaching its normal lever, when the forces keeping it down are suddenly released then there will be a violent reaction in the other direction - that is just the way things work.  It is up to the Fed to insure it doesn't spiral out of control and ruin what gains have been made.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          "Started economy growing again" - I was being sarcastic.

          My comment was to point out current inflation... I did that. We are currently having inflation. June 10, 2021 ---   consumer prices soar again and push the CPI inflation rate to a 13-year high. The numbers: The cost of living surged again in May and drove the pace of inflation to a 13-year high of 5%, reflecting a broad increase in prices confronting Americans. The consumer price index jumped 0.6% last month to mark the fourth large gain in a row, the government said Thursday.  I quoted a Market Watch article, that provides stats, not predictions. I offered no opinion or really added anything that I could not prove as factual.  You don't like the stats that's your problem. My comment contains stats that are being widely reported. So not sure why you state they don't make sense. They are stats, numbers percentages.

          "All that data, I am sure, is correct.  But at this point in time it doesn't mean much."

          I never said they did...here is what I said.--  Not sure about where this kind of inflation will lead us. So you may have given credit where it is not due.

          https://www.marketwatch.com/story/infla … 2021-06-10

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            And "So you may have given credit where it is not due." is what is disconnected.  The economy and stock market are doing GREAT since Biden was elected.  The fact that inflation is overcorrecting a little bit doesn't take away from that.

    11. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      "Lumber futures have faced significant weakness in the past month following a major move higher during the Covid pandemic. Lumber futures for July delivery fell more than 5% to $1,158 per thousand board feet Tuesday, which is down more than 30% from a record $1,711 on May 10."

    12. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Congress passed (except for 13 RINOs) and Joe Biden signed a long overdue National Holiday - Juneteenth which commemorates the ending slavery in America.

      Another problem solved.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        I must say you come up with some real chuckles... This takes the cake. First,  I am pleased that Juneteenth has been made a Holiday. However, this was not a pressing problem. Just another opportunity for Biden to pander. In my view, I think many American's realize this was sheer pandering.

        "Biden signed into law a bill to make Juneteenth, or June 19, the 12th federal holiday. The House voted 415-14 on Wednesday to send the bill to Biden, while the Senate passed the bill unanimously"

        You consider this a problem? How about our border to start?  We have Florida sending in National Guard to help secure it, due to Joe refusing to recognize the problem, and Texas now confirming they will continue building the wall.  Biden needs to stop pandering and start solving problems that affect all Americans.

        I for one am very displeased with Biden's job performance. He literally has done nothing. And the summer break is here for Congress. I think it great you posted a three to keep a tally on what you consider Biden's accomplishments. I assume as time goes on we can follow what Biden has done that is positive for the country.

        You may have wanted to add Joe's G7 reviews, they were actually somewhat positive.

    13. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Promise not kept.
      WASHINGTON – The Senate failed to advance a sweeping voting rights bill Tuesday, stalling the Democratic legislation aimed at countering recent restrictive state measures pursued in Republican-led states.

      The Senate failed to advance the For the People Act to the floor for a debate. In a vote of 50-50, it fell short of the 60 needed to overcome a GOP filibuster. All Democratic Senators voted to begin debate, and the Republicans unanimously voted to block it.

      Hearing Peoples Act Bill--- This hearing is very informative, and American citizens really need to listen to the hearing to really have a better idea about what this bill was all about. Senators on both sides can be heard making their case for or against The Peoples Act Bill. You be the judge but make an informed judgment. IMO this bill was unconstitutional, and nothing but a power grab. A power grab that Republicans certainly could have made while they controlled the House and Senate under Trump. But did not...  Why, because they keep to, and protect our Constitution.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUmHu6l … p;t=27291s

      One fact that is very glaring in regards to the 2020 election--- We had a historic turnout in numbers of votes cast. Historic numbers. Does this fact stand to provide the need to change our voting laws? Does this fact stand to make it necessary for our voting laws to become Federalized? Does this historic voter turnout call for our Constitution to be amended? Do facts matter any longer when it comes to changing our laws, our Constitution? Or do the media's OPINIONs just matter more?

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        I just saw this - "One fact that is very glaring in regards to the 2020 election--- We had a historic turnout in numbers of votes cast. Historic numbers. Does this fact stand to provide the need to change our voting laws? " -

        THEN Please tell me Republicans are changing them in every Red state???  What the Democrats are trying to do is make sure we keep having historic numbers by cancelling out all of the restrictions Republicans are putting on voting.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Do larger numbers of votes give rise to additional probability, no matter how low, of fraud?

          Those magnificent numbers happened because of extreme emotional responses to the election; do such emotions give rise to an increased probability, no matter how low, of fraud (will people cheat more if they are angry or scared)?

          Be honest and then repeat that we need no voter security.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            We need to protect ourselves from Republican voters[/b\ since they are the [b]only ones found guilty of it in 2020 that I read about.

            I suspect they may give rise to an insignificant rise in probability. But, since it is at an almost imperceptible volume to start with, there was no need for the draconian, Jim Crow measures the Republicans took. 

            It is that fact and the many pronouncements by Republicans in GA, TX, FL, and many other states that this was the most honest election ever which will probably carry the day in DOJ's suit against GA and any other state that is trying to suppress the vote.

            And I am being honest when I say we don't need MORE voter security.  What America needs is more access to voting than we already have to drive those numbers further up.  I think both the John Lewis Act (to reestablish Section 5 in the Voter Rights Act) and Sen Joe Manchin's compromise bill, which no true American should have any problem with, are the answer we need.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Is there a reason you neglected to answer or even consider the two questions I asked?

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                Is there a reason you didn't read/understand my response?  Or did you hide two questions in your comment that I didn't answer?

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  Here, I'll repeat them:

                  With more voters does the probability that some will be fraud increase?

                  With an emotionally charged election such as we just had, does the probability of fraud increase?

                  You failed to address either one - try again?

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    And I will repeat my answers -

                    - "With more voters does the probability that some will be fraud increase?"  my answer was I suspect they may give rise to an insignificant rise in probability. But, since it is at an almost imperceptible volume to start with, there was no need for the draconian, Jim Crow measures the Republicans took.

                    'With an emotionally charged election such as we just had, does the probability of fraud increase?" - My answer is the same "I suspect they may give rise to an insignificant rise in probability. But, since it is at an almost imperceptible volume to start with, there was no need for the draconian, Jim Crow measures the Republicans took.

                    It is pretty clear the RINO objective is to lower the amount of voting in hopes that they can actually win a national or statewide election.

    14. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      America's economy is booming, but Republicans are Miserable reads the headline.

      HIGHLIGHTS, beyond what I have presented earlier.

      -  " GDP is growing again, surging for the past three quarters after dips in the first half of last year."

      - "The job market is recovering too, as workers in hard-hit services sectors return to employment."

      - "Earnings have rebounded "

      - "US stocks touched record highs on Tuesday. " (Trump's favorite measure)

      - "The housing market continues to sizzle."

      - "it's pretty much back to business as usual for many major cities."

      - "Oxford Economics expects the US economy will grow at an average pace of 7.5% in 2021, the fastest growth rate since 1951." (hopefully it cools down quickly.  If not, the inflation fears may become real)

      -  "Americans are also traveling again. " (driving up gas prices)

      -  "United Airlines announced the largest aircraft purchase in the company's history and the biggest order by any airline in about a decade."

      An interesting finding is that Pre-Trump, the Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index showed that Republicans and Democrats roughly felt the same way.  If the Index was down, both Rs and Ds were down.  If the Index was up, both the Rs and Ds were up.

      During and after Trump, Consumer Sentiment appears to have been politicized along with everything else.  During Trump, Republican and Democratic Sentiment went in opposite directions.  Same with the first few months of Biden - Republicans think things stink while Democrats are optimistic.




      https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/29/economy/ … index.html

    15. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      WOW!!! Biden adds 850,000 jobs in June.  Great work Mr. president.

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/02/economy/ … index.html

      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Yep - as governors re-open their states after COVID shut down the jobs come back.  And, of course, it is because of Biden's efforts, not the states and not COVID.

        Now if we could only FILL those jobs in spite of Biden's efforts to pay people to stay home!  I notice that some states are ending his great giveaways and with it the encouragement to sit home rather than work.  Does Biden get credit for that, too?  Will he get credit for giving tens of thousands of people months of paid vacation funded by the tax receipts from those willing to work?

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Hey you gave Trump credit for things he had nothing to do with, I give Biden credit for things he did do such as - how did I put it for Sharlee - "But what he did do was create the conditions so that those people COULD return to those jobs.  As I said GREAT JOB Mr. President."

          "spite of Biden's efforts to pay people to stay home! " - The Experts disagree with that right-wing myth.

          You will have to wait until July before any analysis of states cutting off aid had any real impact.  Those actions didn't affect June numbers.  So you think the pandemic was a vacation for all of those laid off - typical.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            LOL  The ONLY thing Biden to re-open the economy was to continue the vaccine program started by Trump.  Individual states did the rest, as you well know.

            I'm positive that the Left Wing, Trump Hating "experts" will deny that giving more free money than they can earn by working to people that won't work is a good way to get them to work.  Fortunately many of us don't fall for the Tall Tale, and in fact predicted exactly what we see happening as soon as the Great Giveaway was proposed.

            Yeah - when you take home more from Uncle Sam than from your job it is a vacation.  Paid time off - it is indeed termed a "vacation", particularly when the new pay schedule is far better than your job provided.

            But Eso, you know this.  And you know that if people are being paid more to stay home than they would get working then they will stay home.  It isn't rocket science to figure that one out, and you are quite capable of making the connection.  Just as your "experts" are.  If we pay farmers not to plant crops, and the payment is far above any reasonable expectation of profit, they won't plant.  No difference, and it has worked for decades.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              "LOL  The ONLY thing Biden to re-open the economy was to continue the vaccine program started by Trump.  Individual states did the rest, as you well know." - ACTUALLY, you know most of that is FALSE.  All Trump did was sign off on Operation Warp Speed (a major accomplishment) and didn't get in the way (as he is prone to do) of others like Dr. Fauci who did the miraculous work of getting a vaccine ready in 12 months. - That was the TRUE part, the rest is FALSE or mostly FALSE.

              Trump was fumbling the vaccine roll-out terribly by 100% relying on the states, many (all Red) of who are still way behind the power curve.  It took Biden to properly use the Defense Production Act and to nationalize the distribution that got so many shots into so many arms in the states who were willing to get their people vaccinated (mostly Blue).  So NO, "Individual states did not do the rest, as you well know."

              "I'm positive that the Left Wing, Trump Hating "experts" will deny that giving more free money ..." - THE DATA says you are wrong here as well.  The data show that there are many reasons why people aren't taking jobs - the extra unemployment benefit is just one small part of that.

              "And you know that if people are being paid more to stay home than they would get working then they will stay home. " - JUST another right-wing myth.
              https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ … wage-work/

      2. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        These are people returning to jobs they held before the pandemic. Biden did not create these jobs. Biden made it rain, and people have just realized the cash is about to end ...     Again CNN

        In my view all Biden's done so far is create inflation and a gigantic problem at the border. And generally trying to spend money that we don't have. IMO -- He is a pure disaster.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Did I say he created those jobs???  No I didn't.  But what he did do was create the conditions so that those people COULD return to those jobs.  As I said GREAT JOB Mr. President.

          I use CNN because they publish the TRUTH and it is convenient, unlike your sources. 

          You forgot the record growth in GDP, best since 1951, I think, or was it 1984?

    16. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      More great news out of that jobs report - year-over-year wage increase was 3.6%!!  Not bad President Biden.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/02/jobs-re … -2021.html

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Part of a bubble, a small bubble at that... I am sure you are aware that employers have had to up the ante to get people back in their jobs. many have just been enjoying staying home on Joe's brilliant plan to give $300.00 more in unemployment. Yes, such a brilliant bit of thinking on Joe's part.

        This "bit" of a wage gain will be well earned when em[loyers cut back on staff, and leave the work to fewer. And oh, those that get the can will be right back on unemployment.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          So you buy into this right-wing myth as well, I see. " many have just been enjoying staying home on Joe's brilliant plan to give $300.00 more in unemployment."

          The fact is the extra unemployment benefits is only a small part of why people are refusing to work.  For example, many don't think it is safe yet.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ … wage-work/

          1. Sharlee01 profile image82
            Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

            The money Joe provides has poured back into the economies. It's money that needed to be printed.  His economy is the Trump economy return and fluffy money that has caused inflation.  Hopefully, the rest of the jobs trump created will soon be added to the Jobs numbers. Biden lost our jobs, no way could I give Biden credit for something the Trump administration did.

            In my opinion, Biden is sinking faster than I felt he would. Still hiding, still making non-sensical statements.

            I do not read WAPO --- ever

            Let's have a look at inflation, this is where the rubber hits the road -- when America's start feeling their pockets light ...

            U.S. inflation likely to remain elevated for up to four years
            https://www.reuters.com/business/global … 021-06-25/

            Let's look at inflation where the rubber hit the road --- American's pockets.

            U.S. Inflation Is Highest in 13 Years as Prices Surge 5%
            https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-inflati … 1623288303


            U.S. inflation soars in April to 13-year high, CPI shows, and reveals fresh stress on the economy   https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-i … 1620823628

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              "It's money that needed to be printed.  " - ANOTHER one of your unsupported and false claims.

              If this were true, then Trump printed tons of money, didn't he.

              "I do not read WAPO --- ever" - That is not surprising and it helps explain why you are so uninformed with the TRUTH.

              Rather than your "the sky is falling, chicken little" headlines.  This is what the real question is about inflation:

              "There’s no debate about whether America is experiencing significant inflation. But a short-term increase in prices would be no big deal; in fact, it might even be a good thing, since inflation has been excessively low over the past decade. (Just what I have told you many times already)

              The question is whether today’s price increases are the beginning of lasting trend, or the product of a temporary mismatch between demand and supply, as the economy adjusts to post-COVID crisis conditions. The Federal Reserve, the government entity most responsible for tracking inflation, endorses the latter hypothesis. But some economists disagree."

              https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article … rices.html

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                "I do not read WAPO --- ever" - That is not surprising and it helps explain why you are so uninformed with the TRUTH."

                That would be your opinion, which I am not surprised at.

                I offered several economist opinions. take them or leave them. I choose to give them merit.

          2. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Whether they think it safe or not, precious few would starve rather than go back to their job...if they weren't being paid to stay home.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              "if they weren't being paid to stay home." - AND WHERE are the studies to back up that claim?  If you produce none, then we know your claim is false.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                Do you need a study to see if Biden authorized federal unemployment to supplement state unemployment?  I was pretty sure that everyone in the country knew about that.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  Thought so, your claim that Biden is paying people to stay home is false..

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              So, you are encouraging people to get very sick and possibly die in order not to starve?  Is that right?  How big of you.  Or maybe you are telling them to go make their fellow unvaccinated workers very sick and possibly die.  Sounds like it is one or the other or maybe both.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                LOL  You assumptions are always great to see.  The ability to put ridiculous thoughts into the heads of others takes a special talent.

                How about they just get a vaccination like everyone else and quit living off the charity of others?  If they would rather risk sickness and death, by NOT getting a vaccination, it is certainly a choice they can make, but it IS their choice.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  There are many people who can't get vaccinated.  There are many more who are like you and don't trust the gov't enough to think the vaccination is safe yet.  Many conservatives oppose it on principle (which means you think your fellow conservatives are moochers to).

                  I agree that the vaccines are safe and effective but there are so many like you who believe the lies put out by right-wing propaganda or the evangelical pastors, that it isn't.  It seems to me you would a prime candidate to thinking that way given you have bought into Trump's BIg Lie and his other BS so easily.

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    There are very few that cannot get vaccinated.  But just as you say, the REST of the crowd (99.99%?) make a choice not to protect themselves or others.  Only problem is that that choice includes the choice to sponge off of the efforts of others at the same time.  Unacceptable to any but liberals like you, who rejoice in taking what a person has built in order to give it to someone that would rather stay home.  You make that choice to not protect yourself (or your neighbors, friends and acquaintances), fine...but make the choice to go hungry along with it.  Don't expect others to pick up your needs because you choose not to do it yourself.

                    Now, now, Eso - you really should not be spreading lies like these.  I don't believe vaccines are not safe.  I don't believe the election had fraud to the point of changing it.  You can, of course, make the claim that I do believe these things but it is a flat out lie.  No spin, no twist, no exaggeration...just a flat out lie, and one really beneath you.

    17. peterstreep profile image81
      peterstreepposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      He's trying to rebuild the international trust. The relationship between Europe and the US has shifted dramatically during Trumps reign. Europe understanding that the US is not an ally automatically.
      Another thing Biden has brought is the language of communication. Trump was and is a warmonger in the social media. Constantly provoking. It poisons the discussion on topics where the middle ground was erased and only white or black opinions mattered.
      The press briefings are finally normal again and not a social media show.
      And Biden can recite a poem.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        "Europe understanding that the US is not an ally automatically." - That is probably one of the top five terrible, possibly irreparable, things Trump did in his short four years - destroy the trust other nations had in America's word.

        It will probably take a few generations of successive normal presidents before the rest of the world will believe we won't implode like we did in 2016 and elect another demagogue like him.  Given that at least a third of Americans have been brainwashed by him, the right-wing propaganda and their helpers Russian, China, and Iran, and the massive effort by RINOs to undermine our democracy, that is no sure thing.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          After two failed, fake impeachment efforts and years of failed witch hunting for anything that would remove him from the political arena I have to question just who is trying to undermine our democracy.  The concept of a legally conducted election is set aside in favor of media and court challenges to the opponent you don't like any more.

        2. peterstreep profile image81
          peterstreepposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, I wonder if it will ever be like that again. Besides Trump's questionable foreign political ideas (were there any?) The fast data collection by the American government (Think about the Snowden files, monitoring etc) and the private companies like Facebook, Amazon, Apple,  Thiels Pandora project and others also alarmed Europe. Making them more stringent laws about privacy and data collection.
          It's a sad thing, And the days that the US could ask Europe to help to invade Iraq are over. I think if the US wants to invade Iran for example, Europe would say, fight your own war. It's a good thing and a bad thing.
          I think the US does not have the leverage anymore to police the world. with consequences as more dictators like Erdogan will take advantage.
          Russia is testing Biden by sending troops to the borders, a macho thing he didn't need to do with Trump, as he controlled Trump who was politically naive. (great in social media branding though..)
          So yes, the coming years will be tough for Biden as the political stage has shifted. With China taking over political influence in Africa.
          Interesting to see that more and more Chinese documentaries are seen on Netflix for example. China reaching out in the cultural domain, once dominated by Holywood. In the art scene, China is for a decade or so the avantgarde with important world-dominating galleries.
          I'm afraid that the US lost itself in nostalgia. Trump's fascist slogan with Make America Great again showed this nostalgia to the once Great America. (Ring a bell...German Fascism also longing for the old forgotten days when Germany was a great empire...Nordic myths etc...it's textbook fascism using nostalgia as a weapon.)
          Don't look backwards, but forwards. To me that was always the great power of the US. new tech, new avant-garde arts and design. I hope the US with Biden will have the guts to become a world leader again in fighting the biggest crisis of all the Climate Crisis.

        3. Ken Burgess profile image87
          Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          The perspective you forward is one from an extreme, I'm not going to put a label to it, other than to say you have voiced and expounded upon every negative thing ever said or written about Trump.

          I have no heartburn over Trump being removed from Office, but, I also don't think the alternative that America was presented is going to prove 'better' for America... especially when it comes to foreign relations.

          You've noted the negatives regarding Trump, let me note that there were some positives however, such as, no one wanted to make a seriously hostile move as they had no idea how he would react, also, they expected that he would look out for America first... not always a bad thing when trying to sit down and negotiate with a foreign nation.

          Biden's recent appearance at the G7 summit held June 2021 11-13th showed to the other world leaders that he is a man of declining mental capability, he had to be handled and managed by his entourage and this was all too obvious to foreign media coverage.

          The American MSM is in full blown protection mode, as voracious as they were in pointing out every gaff or mistake Trump made, they are working just as diligently today to dismiss or explain away any stumble or screw-up by Biden.

          Biden doesn't get that support or protection from foreign media, nor will other world leaders play nice because 'Good ol' Joe' is going a bit senile... they will take advantage and they will push where they see weakness (we will see this especially with China in the months ahead).

          Unfortunately, where Pence was a calming and steady presence for Trump's Administration, giving most people the confidence that if the Presidency fell to Pence things would be well managed... few have that belief or perception today about Harris, all we read about today in regards to her is 'White House in Damage Control', in fact, the more speaking she does in public, the more worried people seem to be getting that behind the ailing Biden, sits Harris.

          So, when it comes to foreign relations it is very much a matter of perspective whether or not things have "improved' from Trump.

          However, when it comes to going along with the Paris Accord, Compact on Migration, deferring to the IMF, UN, WTO... you are correct, Biden is very much what was wanted, a polar opposite of Trump.

    18. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting.  More Americans think America is going in the right direction since 2009 - Keep it up Joe.

      It still isn't above 50%, but when has it ever been? Maybe sometime in the Clinton years.  Looking at the chart, it appears Biden is doing 8 to 9 points better than Trump did.

      The same with Congressional approval.  While still dismal, it has been running higher since shortly after Biden took office and the Democrats took over than it ever has back to 2009.  It actually started improving when the Democrats took over the House.

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … y-902.html

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … l-903.html

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Myself I have lost faith in the polls --- but the polls today have Biden slipping further...

        https://www.reuters.com/world/us/suppor … 021-06-30/

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewst … d9506763d1

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewst … 29b30a348f

        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … biden-poll

        AND WHY THE HELL HAS BIDEN NOT RESPONDED TO  CHINA"S THREAT? I realize he said he would be off celebrating the 4th -- but come on.


        The Chinese communist regime is moving aggressively to expand its influence abroad, while issuing unveiled threats to other countries that might think of trying to stop it – as the U.S. is trying to rally allies to push back against the regime's expansionist efforts.

        "The Chinese people will absolutely not allow any foreign force to bully, oppress or enslave us and anyone who attempts to do so will face broken heads and bloodshed in front of the iron Great Wall of the 1.4 billion Chinese people," President Xi Jinping said this week as he marked the 100 year anniversary of the party’s founding.

        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china- … -heads.amp

        Perhaps he does not want to jeopardize Hunter's case flow from China or maybe Hunter hopes to sell his art in China?

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          "AND WHY THE HELL HAS BIDEN NOT RESPONDED TO  CHINA"S THREAT? " - And what makes you think he hasn't?  I guess bringing our allies around to oppose China after Trump did his damnedest to push Europe and China closer together, doesn't count.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image82
            Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

            Oh, and you think anyone at the G7 listened to Biden? I don't think he could be heard through all the loud laughing.  We had a president that knew how to solve problems and did not look to other countries to aid us. IMO  Biden is a weak non-sensical man, he always has been. He is failing so fast. He can hardly read his cheat sheets. Even when he has the name of who to call on, and his reply right in front of him, he flubs it  He is comical to watch.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Oh, and you think anyone at the G7 listened to Biden?  - Yet they paid
              very close attention to him.  I suspect they were all still laughing at Trump.

              BTW, your BDS is shining brightly.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                https://hubstatic.com/15631183.jpg

                Not sure why you think anyone paid attention to Biden. He did not accomplish anything... He claimed to have told Putin there would be consequences if the Russians kept hacking for ransom.  Well, I am sure you heard that Russia done did it again--- And we have an ineffective leader that can't figure out which shoe goes on which foot.

                "Biden under pressure to respond to Russian hackers' claims of responsibility for ransomware attack"
                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation … k-n1273123

                Biden has one problem after another piling up... Crime, inflation, Delta virus, and China out and out threatening America, and now Russia kicking dirt in his face with their hacking, and each shaking incident has gotten bigger and more serious. Oh, forgot the mess at the border with record numbers of illegals walking into the country. And then today he comes up with the brilliant idea to combat Delta --- Time to go door to door to get people to take the vaccine. WOW --- Trump jumps on COVID brings America 3 vaccines --- Joe brings us a solution a five-year-old would think of.   It is no wonder he is confused, it would be hard to keep track of all the problems he can't handle. 

                To quote  Kenna McHugh Fellow Hubpage Author

                "Similarly, no one on planet Earth really believes that a guy with no following, no actual accomplishments, no likable characteristics, a history of creepy behavior toward women and children, substantial evidence of selling his influence to foreign interests, who campaigned from his basement and of course, showing strong signs of onset dementia, actually pulled 8o+ million votes in a recent contest, the most in U.S history."

                IMO Kenna summed Joe up to perfection.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  It is clear you have a terminal case of Biden Derangement Syndrome, BDS.

                  Remember, Trump left our relationship with our allies a total shambles.  Biden began the repair process, which will probably take decades to accomplish.  Trump  totally destroyed the TRUST all the presidents before him had created with other nations of the world.  Biden has put us back on the road to recovery.

                  One of Biden's major proposals to the group -- a global infrastructure program meant to compete with China's Belt and Road initiative -- was included in the summit's final statement.

                  Biden put Democracy back in front instead of autocracy that Trump played to.

                  "Trump jumps on COVID brings America 3 vaccines " - LOL - and then he left the stage letting people die by the thousands.  Vaccines don't do anybody any good unless they are used.  Trump totally failed at that.  I guess you are calling Trump less than a 5-year old since he couldn't think of a way to deliver the vaccines to the People.  He wouldn't even he make a constant case to his brainwashed masses to get vaccinated.  I think ONCE he half-heartedly said use the vaccine.  What a terrible person.

                  BTW, why are ALL those RINO governors letting their states become breeding grounds for the Delta variant?  They are clearly failing their citizens and ought to be recalled.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    I note you deflected to Trump. Biden has created all his own problems, and it's clear there is no defending his job performance. He is the very worse president we have ever had.  Each and every problem I offered up --- Biden created. There is no defending him, why bother.

                    In my opinion, Biden did nothing at the G7 and fat chance of global infrastructure" this tool can't even get an infrastructure bill done here in
                    America. He is a politician all hot wind, He has done nothing, and will do nothing, but pile up problems.

            2. peterstreep profile image81
              peterstreepposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              The difference between Biden and Trump is that Biden can recite poems and Trump has difficulty with spelling the word Covfefe.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                I am so glad you brought this subject into the light --- Because the media just does not report on the seriousness of Biden's failing cognitive abilities. or do cover his ineptness and his blatantly confusing statements.   This man can't even read the cheat sheets that are provided him, meant to attempt to make him sound coherent.

                Recite poems...
                Really, here are a few of the sad confused moments Biden has had that media just does not cover. He shows a complete breakdown in being able to make a coherent statement. He just babbles on incoherently. He is a very confused man, and IMO he should not be let out to speak in public at this point.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA4-Tdvej2c
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpMAd7uXMSY

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  "Because the media just does not report on the seriousness of Biden's failing cognitive abilities. " - THEY don't report it because there is nothing to report.  Those are just BDS and right-wing talking points.

                  Why don't you admit your hero has serious mental problems as is evidence by his continuing to believe he won the election and will return to office next month.  The man is simply delusional.

                  I found the way George W. spoke to be funny, but I never held it against him like you do Biden.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    Let me reorient you, my comment has nothing to do with Trump or Bush. It was all about pointing out my opinion that Biden is at times a very confused man.  Making such a serious accusation made me realize I needed sources to back up my opinion. I provided two videos that show Biden clearly in a confused state.  Youtube is a very good source both showed Biden in a live situation that was videoed. Quotes are fine, but videos are just better to prove a point. If you would like to see a few more I can certainly provide more evidence of Biden showing confusion while publicly speaking.

                    Videos are hard to dispute. The two I offered show him very confused.  It's not funny when a president at times can't orient himself to the subject and just goes off saying non-sensical words that make no sense of any kind.

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                lol

                1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                  Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  Not really funny... I offered two sources that clearly show just how confused Biden can be at times. perhaps this is not a serious problem for you. It is for me. Funny how you can get so concerned over maybe, and if comes, but not over a video that clearly shows the President is not able to make a cohearent sentence.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    Which I suspect was doctored like many are.  As I said, BDS.

    19. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      HERE IS another thing Biden has failed on ... And his party brought about with their flowery demand to defund the police! JUST ANOTHER HISTORIC RECORD UNDER OLD JOE...

      "Bloody July Fourth weekend leaves 150 fatally shot in more than 400 shootings nationwide"

      "A bloody Fourth of July weekend ended with at least 150 people killed in more than 400 shootings that occurred across the country, according to data compiled throughout the weekend.

      In New York City, at least 26 people were shot from Friday through Sunday, with at least two of the incidents resulting in deaths.

      In Chicago, 100 people were struck by gunfire resulting in 18 deaths since Friday night, according to Chicago police. In nearly all of the cases, no suspects were taken into custody as detectives continue to investigate the incidents. 69 of the more than 450 nationwide shootings occurred in Chicago alone."  https://www.foxnews.com/us/july-fourth- … -violence.

      So many problems to ignore, one would think old Joe would at least pick one and try to solve it... But Joe prefers to just say --- There is no problem to see here...  This president and his administration is ruining the country.
      https://hubstatic.com/15630695_f1024.jpg

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        " And his party brought about with their flowery demand to defund the police! " - THAT, of course, is a ridiculously false statement to make..  The only Democrats who believe such a thing are as far Left as the RINOs, like McCarthy who is pushing the Big Lie, which is much worse than the stupid "defund the police" slogan, is far-Right.

        ""Bloody July Fourth weekend leaves 150 fatally shot in more than 400 shootings nationwide"" - IT WAS actually worse than that.  But don't look to Biden or Democrats for that.  Instead, turn your attention to those who don't want background checks when someone acquires a gun.  Or how about those who prevent the CDC from studying gun violence.  Or how about those who prevent the ATF from tracking guns used in crimes.  Why don't you focus on them instead?

        Biden is solving the pandemic. 

        -Biden is repairing the broken relations with our allies to help fight against Trump's friend Putin and China and Iran - you know, unimportant national security things. 

        Biden is very close to securing a bipartisan infrastructure deal.(assuming the far-Left doesn't blow it up.)

        Biden followed most economists advice and provided stimulus to a nation in recession.

        And whole host of other things too numerous to mention.

        BTW, how can Biden ruin a country that Trump has already ruined?

        That is quite a bit in 100 days - a whole lot more than Trump ever did.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Biden had done nothing but talk, and actually, he reads what he is told to read when he talked. he is a very confused human being.

          Trump was a true problem solver, he faced problems and did his job.

    20. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Finally, justice by a man with a real heart and empathy for those ripped off   On the other hand, the previous administration sided with the crooks and kept these students in misery and fear..

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/09/politics … index.html

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Another case where Biden is borrowing a victory from a previous president. He is not capable of solving problems. But very good at taking credit for what others have done. He is stagnant, and not addressing America's problems... he is one scary guy.

        "Seventy-two thousand student loan borrowers could breathe a sigh of relief Thursday after the Department of Education announced they will have the entirety of their debt forgiven.

        The move only applies to borrowers whose claims have already been approved under something called borrower defense to repayment, a federal law that allows students to have their loans canceled if they attended a school that closed suddenly or was proven to take part in illegal or deceptive practices, such as ITT Technical Institute or Corinthian Colleges. The law was ENACTED by the OBAMA administration in 2016."
        https://fortune.com/2021/03/18/student- … ity-loans/

        SAVE YOUR CREDIT FOR WHERE IT"S DUE.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          "The law was ENACTED by the OBAMA administration in 2016." - AND TRUMP KILLED IT! as he does everything he touches including our democracy

    21. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      WOW! America thinks Biden is doing an outstanding job with beating the pandemic.

      Given that 40% of Americans Hate Biden, because he is not Trump, it is very good when he can score above 60% on any poll as he does with the one on Coronavirus.  And Biden has consistently averaged above 60% since mid-March.

      Trump, on the other hand, did MUCH worse.  At his best, in March 2020, he barely broke 50%, but it plummeted from there.  He hit a low of 38% in July 2020.  Most of the time was spent between 40 - 42%, [i]even when a vaccine from OWS was announced.  WHY do Americans think he did such a crappy job while Trump supporters keep flouting non-existent accomplishments?

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … -7323.html

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … -7088.html

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Biden did nothing in regards to COVID. As he did nothing in regard to forgiving student loans  ---  As COVID was Trump's victory --- the student forgiveness of student loans was Obama's victory. Biden continues to do nothing but try to steal other former president's victories.

        The country has real problems, the above two problems were solved by other presidents... Biden won't face problems, he is confused and inept.

        "Seventy-two thousand student loan borrowers could breathe a sigh of relief Thursday after the Department of Education announced they will have the entirety of their debt forgiven.

        The move only applies to borrowers whose claims have already been approved under something called borrower defense to repayment, a federal law that allows students to have their loans canceled if they attended a school that closed suddenly or was proven to take part in illegal or deceptive practices, such as ITT Technical Institute or Corinthian Colleges. The law was ENACTED by the OBAMA administration in 2016."

        https://fortune.com/2021/03/18/student- … ity-loans/

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          "As COVID was Trump's victory " - Trump made it so much worse than it needed to be.  One day you will come to understand that.  Also, given that the poll numbers exceed more than 60%, there are plenty of people on your side who give Biden the credit he deserves.  Your BDS apparently stops you from doing so.

          "the student forgiveness of student loans was Obama's victory." - Of course we are talking about those who were ripped off by for-profit colleges and not student loans in general.  In any case, it WOULD have been Obama's thing IF Trump hadn't killed itIt took Biden to pick up the pieces and put it back together again.

    22. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I know conservatives just hate to see Americans happy, but it is true, since Biden was elected, more and more Americans report they are happy.

      Gallup's Life Rating poll started in 2008.  After Obama saved America from a  Depression, the index varied between 51.2 and 54.4 in his first 4 years as America was recovering.  After hitting a low of 50.3 because of the Republican gov't shut down, Obama's next four years stayed around 55. 

      This is where Trump started out and briefly hit 57.3 in Sep 2017.  It then fell to around 54 for the next few years before plummeting to the mid-40s beginning in 2020.

      The index jumped to 51.2 when Biden was inaugurated and then skyrocketed to a record high of 59.2!!.  There is a reason for that - people are happy with the job Biden is doing

      73% of people said they experienced enjoyment for a lot of the previous day.

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/politics … index.html

      https://news.gallup.com/poll/351932/ame … -high.aspx

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

        LOL CNN once again...

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Yep, the TRUTH wins out - again.

          I just read that Tucker Carlson, that purveyor of conspiracy theories, is furious with Fox management because they are giving short-shrift to his NSA is spying on my myth.  Even Fox can stomach only so much lying from their people.

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Speaking of Polls - in a rare instance of truth telling, Trump said this at CPAC - "If it's bad, I say it's fake. If it's good, I say that's the most accurate poll ever."

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          If you want to talk about speeches--- Today old Joe compared the Republicans changing their voting laws to be worse than the civil war. This is strictly my opinion --- I find him becoming more and more confused each time he speaks.   At this point, he needs to be removed. from office.  I shutter when I see he is out talking in any capacity.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Why didn't you say that about Trump who is much, much, much worse?

            "Today old Joe compared the Republicans changing their voting laws to be worse than the civil war." - I don't think that is your opinion at all.  I think it is from something you saw which had been edited to lie about what Biden actually said. 

            What he said - truthfully - was that We're are facing the most significant test of our democracy since the Civil War. That's not hyperbole. Since the Civil War. The Confederates back then [b]never breached the Capitol as insurrectionists did on January the 6th.[/b]   I hope you now understand how you were fooled into believing something that wasn't real.

            I also don't understand why you would applaud things like:

            We will be asking my Republican friends -- in Congress, in states, in cities, in counties -- to stand up, for God's sake, and help prevent this concerted effort to undermine our elections and the sacred right to vote.

            OR

            Vice President Harris and I will be making it clear that there's real peril in making raw power, rather than the idea of liberty, the centerpiece of the common life.

            The Founders understood this. The women of Seneca Falls understood this. The brave, heroic foot soldiers of the Civil Rights Movement understood this. So must we.


            OR

            This isn't about Democrats and Republicans; it's literally about who we are as Americans. It's that basic. It's about the kind of country we want today, the kind of country we want for our children and grandchildren tomorrow. And quite frankly, the whole world is watching. Folks

            When have you ever heard Trump being so presidential?  I'll tell you - never.

            1. Live to Learn profile image75
              Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              If you define presidential as purposely attempting to tear the country apart with false and inflammatory claims then, sure. Biden’s real presidential.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                And Biden is using race to do it --- despicable.

                1. Live to Learn profile image75
                  Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I believe he’s what he calls a lying dog faced pony soldier

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Yes, It would seem Joe just maybe a lying dog-faced pony soldier...

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                I see you are talking about Trump, not Biden.

                1. Live to Learn profile image75
                  Live to Learnposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Nope. My jaw constantly drops every time lying Joe opens his mouth. He seems hell bent on demonizing a large percentage of the population. His biggest lie to date? Claiming he is a unifier.  The left has become so unhinged in their refusal to see any side of an issue but their own has caused the entirety of the left to think their lack of reason is some type of a virtue.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    BDS BS!!  No facts, just false statements.

            2. Sharlee01 profile image82
              Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              "Today old Joe compared the Republicans changing their voting laws to be worse than the civil war." - I don't think that is your opinion at all.  I think it is from something you saw which had been edited to lie about what Biden actually said. "

              This is so ridiculous it is hard to even respond. The fact is Biden has been in Washington for over 55 years. He has not found it necessary to go after voting laws in all those years. The voting laws in Delaware, and New York, and more do not come close to comparing with the voter opportunity of the New laws in Georgia. Delaware has never used dropboxes prior to COVID One must use a valid ID. And they do not mail out mail-in ballots unless one applies for absentee voting. And one must have a valid reason to do so and prove how they are with the appropriate ID.  So, I suggest you take your complaints about these discriminatory laws to the Department Of Justice. Perhaps Garland could bring a whopping lawsuit against most of the Blue states actually for making it hard to vote for all.

              MAIL-IN VOTING OTHER THAN ABSETTE IS NOT ALLOWED. Delaware does send out unsolicited mail-in ballots as the Dems hope to push.   https://www.vote411.org/delaware

              Source for Delawares rules and laws on voting ---   https://elections.delaware.gov/information/law.shtml

              1. Valeant profile image88
                Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Why the change in voting laws?  It's not because of fraud.  It's because a pathological liar claimed he could only lose by fraud and his supporters are more than willing to live in whatever reality he describes to them.

                He also made this claim in 2016, saying the only reason he lost the popular vote was because of fraud.  He even formed a commission with Kris Kobach, a notorious voter suppressionist, at the helm.  The result was that they discovered very few instances of fraud at all, proving that Trump had been lying about any fraud having taken place in the 2016 election.  Did any of his supporters learn the lesson that he had lied to them, or that he had lied about fraud?  Of course not.

                The real reason for the changes are that the people who lost couldn't understand that 80 million people had zero faith in their candidate to manage the United States in a crisis.  That some 400,000 American deaths can be linked to his mismanagement, according to studies comparing the US's response to similar 1st world countries.  That people found it unacceptable when it was confirmed that his campaign manager did in fact collude with members of Russian Intelligence in 2016 to swing the election and that Trump had been lying about there not being collusion the entire time.  And that Mueller had laid out 10 instances where Trump Obstructed Justice during that investigation into something he had been lying about.

                It's also about the fact that providing access to people hurts the party with the fewest registered voters of the three major groups (independents-44%, Democrats-30%, Republicans-24%).  And that trying to restrict access in large cities, where democratic strongholds exist, is a necessity for GOP success.

                And states that make laws allowing the vote to be set aside and have their legislatures determine the result instead, as Arizona proposed, is no longer a democracy.

                We've heard the term 'irregularities' bandied about.  Well, yeah, this election was going to be irregular.  It's one of the few to be conducted during a global pandemic when millions were out of work and had more flexibility to exercise their constitutional rights.  Irregular is a given.

                Expanded voting opportunity in order to keep people safe resulted in record turnout of people exercising their rights.  That so many people got involved, and involved with few cases of fraud, is something to celebrate.  Unless you are the minority party and are fielding the candidate who never broke 50% approval during his term - a first among US Presidents. 

                But instead of learning the lesson that governing for all Americans and not just those in your base will be a recipe for disaster, the GOP is changing laws that will affect the ability of some Americans to exercise their constitutional rights - based on the 'big lie' that there was actually fraud in 2020.

                If you think laws should be changed based on lies, then that's a huge issue.

                And let's start the poll.  How many days until my next ban?

                1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                  Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  yeah ...  So after all that bla bla bla  --- Should Garland bring a lawsuit against Delaware for their very discriminatory voter laws? You know the subject I was discussing.  Yes or no will do --- lol

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image75
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    I know!

                  2. Valeant profile image88
                    Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Why should he, since Delaware's very Democratic legislature is looking to pass laws to make it easier for people to vote without being pressed?

                    Let's simplify all that blah, blah blah.  Do you realize Trump lied to you about fraud back in 2016?

                  3. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Why should he??? Delaware is passing laws to make it easier to vote while Georgia is making it harder, like they have done so many times in the past 150 years.

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Everything you said above is VERY TRUE and UNDENIABLE.

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                ""Today old Joe compared the Republicans changing their voting laws to be worse than the civil war." -" - I Simply cannot understand why a person would continue to repeat lies like that if they are not brainwashed.  It just doesn't make sense.

              3. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                "MAIL-IN VOTING OTHER THAN ABSETTE IS NOT ALLOWED." - Actually, that is a lie as well. Delawarians can vote by mail based on a new law passed in July 1, 2020.  That is why the RINOs in Delaware brought a suit to STOP mail-in balloting?  Very anti-democratic of them don't you think?

              4. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                " Delaware has never used dropboxes prior to COVID" - But yet they did (like GA) for 2020.  But unlike GA, they aren't putting restrictions on their use keeping it easy to vote in 2022.  GA, on the other hand, is restricting the use of drop boxes making it much harder to vote.

                1. Valeant profile image88
                  Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  How much drop box fraud was there, by the way?  What statistics necessitate making the changes?  Anyone...Buehler...Buehler.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    No fraud is needed.  It made it easier for people to vote which RINOs see has a losing proposition.  Consequently, they limit there use.

              5. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                "MAIL-IN VOTING OTHER THAN ABSETTE IS NOT ALLOWED." - WHY AREN"T you talking about all of the laws Delaware is passing to make it easier to vote in that state?  RINOs are trying very hard to stop this from happening, but Democrats don't need their votes to pass these great laws.  Why aren't you taking the RINO's to task for trying to stop making it easier to vote.

                BTW - Unlike Georgia and all of the other southern states, Delaware doesn't have the very long history of deny Blacks the right to vote.

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I think I will start posting this each time you make fun of Biden's speech issues.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image75
              Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Biden is very obedient to what he is supposed to say. This is why he
              forgets and stumbles through the required topics in confusion and forgetfulness.
              In contrast, when ideas / topics come from one's own understanding, the speaking ability is confident and clear.
              Could it be that the Democratic Party valued his willingness to parrot according to their agenda?
              I don't think he started out this way in his early political life ...
              Well, I sure hope not.

              Plus, there's this:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slrs29r5KW8

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                You need to listen to unedited sound bites by Biden haters.

                I have listened to and watched Biden speak for decades.  None of those remind me of this -

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI

                and other similar insults that come out of your hero's mouth.

    23. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      This is how stupid and out of touch with reality that Conservatives are - they actually cheered the fact that Biden didn't reach his 70% vaccination goal.

      Can somebody tell why Trump supporting conservatives are choosing to get very sick and maybe dying rather than get vaccinated?  It makes no sense - of course supporting Trump makes no sense either.

      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Probably for the same reason liberals are making the same choice.  (I'm going out on a limb here and assuming you have not interviewed millions of anti-vaxxers, determining both their political position AND why they don't want the vaccine).

        But my guess is that both the liberals and conservatives making that foolish choice are no longer confident that the government is not lying to them about both the safety and the efficacy of the vaccine.  Couple that with the lies about the death toll from the vaccine (there is a post in these forums that claims 6X as many people die from the vaccine as from COVID) and the inability to understand basic statistics and you could have the answer.

        1. peterstreep profile image81
          peterstreepposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, apparently the anti-vaccine attitude is not along party lines. (So I heard on a podcast that was about the funding of anti-climate-change conspiracies and pro-smoking lobby).

        2. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          "Probably for the same reason liberals are making the same choice.  " - AND WHY would pro-science, pro-vaccine liberals be making that choice?  Your statement is nonsensical.

          Why would I have to interview millions of anti-vaxxers (I wonder if there are that many).  Seems like those would be conservatives since they both share a distrust for science and intellect.  All I need to do is look at a map that overlays where Trump supporters live and where people aren't getting vaccinated to know that it is primarily Trump supporters who aren't getting vaccinated and endangering the rest of us.

          Your "post" is one of those MISINFORMATION pieces conservatives put out to scare people from getting vaccinated.

          The bottom line is most liberals are vaccinated and most conservatives are not - you can't run from the facts.

          Let's see, right now, on average, 233 people are dying a day and growing in Red States from Covid, maybe one or two them were vaccinated, the rest are not.  Let me be generous and say 70% of those are Trump supporters (it is probably higher).  That means Trump and the RINOs have 162 less people a day to vote for them.  Extend that to the next election, about  485 days from today.  That means the pool of Trump/RINO voters will decrease by roughly 78,000 voters.

          Now, tack on to that the number of Trump voters who got deathly ill because they believed in his lies and are now understanding they were lied to and will not vote for Trump or RINOs.  Today's average of new cases is around 20,000 per day and growing in the red states.  Again, I will be generous and say only 20% of those catching the more deadly Delta-variant end up in the hospital (I suspect it is higher).  And of those, let's say half of those finally had enough of the lies and join the land of the rational.  Doing the math, that comes out to 2,000 people per day who won't vote for Trump or the RINOs.  Taking the same 485 days, that means potentially another 970,000 might not vote for Trump or the RINOs.

    24. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      So, I think I understand this correctly ... Biden had a meeting yesterday at the Whitehouse to talk about crime with various representatives from mostly Blue states --- you know the ones that the Dems were just last summer screaming to defund the police. And yes many blue states did just that, Now, they are having historic crimes in their cities due to defunding the police. Well, Biden came up with a solution to their problems. ---=  He suggests they use the funds they receive for COVID relief to hire new police officers. So, what this means --- the Federal funds which came from us, the taxpayers, will now be used to pay for these fools big defund the police fiasco.  Yeah.  It would well appear Biden's main problem-solving tool, toss cash at it, To be more precise, taxpayer's cash. 

      https://nypost.com/2021/06/23/biden-say … ring-cops/

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        "ou know the ones that the Dems were just last summer screaming to defund the police." - How do you say that with a straight face when you know it is not true. Only a handful of stupid Democrats say that

        So, what is your solution that doesn't involve cash?

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          My solution would have been to not defund the police, which resulted in police leaving their jobs in droves, and open historic crime. I find that a curious problem Dem's seem to have --- they create problems due to just not thinking about the end game.  Like Biden did when he got rid of Trump's immigration solutions on his first day on the job. he sat at that big desk with his little blue blaze, and shiny shoes, and ultimately set the ball rolling for the historic border problems we are seeing today.

          I just don't care to pay for Biden or the Dem's mistakes or all their investigations that are just stages for political ploys.

    25. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      As part of the Biden - Democratic coronavirus relief package signed in March is a one-year expanded child tax credit designed to reduce child poverty by half., something Republicans strenuously opposed.

      It is in the form of monthly checks through December and the balance can be received when the 2021 taxes are filed, even if no income was earned. It impacts middle to no income adults with children's under the age of 18.  They will receive $300 per child younger than 6 and $250 for those between 6 and 17.

      Those checks started arriving yesterday to the relief, and often surprise, to millions of middle and low income American parents.

      Another great Biden-Democratic win for America!

      1. Valeant profile image88
        Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        The stock market seems to like Biden as well with the economy able to open up with the delivery of those vaccines, as it is up 14% this year.  It was funny to see the same Trump supporters touting those achievements four years ago, but now bemoaning how Biden is just helping the 'rich get richer.'  Unreal the things they can find for their partisan hate.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          It is called Biden Derangement Syndrome (BDS).  With Trump, clear-eyed people had every reason to point out his continuous bad behavior (leading to Gen Milley worrying about Trump staging a coup).  With Biden, clear-eyed people know he is doing a great job (on most things - I really disagree with his decision to pull out of Afghanistan.  I don't care if we have been there for 20 years, we need to stay another 20 if it means keeping that country out of the hands of the Taliban and al Queda.)

    26. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I forget in which forum the subject of Universal Basic Income came up, but I ran across this article where California, in a 100% bipartisan vote, put their toe in the water of this concept.

      Currently, it is limited to pregnant mothers (is that redundant?) and kids coming out of foster care.

      https://www.latimes.com/california/stor … ncome-plan

    27. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      What are the Things President Joe Biden Has Done While President ---

      The elite on wall street to include investment banks have smashed earning expectations today.  While American worker struggles with rising consumer good prices due to President Joe Biden’s inflation.

      Current states
      JPMorgan Chase ---   “second-quarter earnings of $11.9 billion, or $3.78 per share, which exceeded the $3.21 estimate of analysts surveyed by Refinitiv,” CNBC reported.

      Goldman Sachs  ---  "reported second-quarter earnings of $15.02 per share, topping analysts’ expectation of $10.24 earnings per share,” CNBC continued, “The bank posted its second-best ever quarterly investment banking revenue as a rush of IPOs hit Wall Street last quarter.”

      The investment banks shattering expectations comes as the American worker is experiencing inflation at a 13 year high.

      The Labor Department on Tuesday released its Consumer Price Index for June, showing that prices rose 0.9 percent in the past month. The price hike in June marked the largest 1-month increase since June 2008.
      Source ---  https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

      Inflation has outrun expectations for three months in a row. The June monthly figure is the highest since June 2008, when prices increased 1 percent in a single month.

      Inflation pressures remain more acute than appreciated and certainly appear that they are going to be with us for a longer period than has been previously reported.

      Are we returning to the 1970s?   Inflation has reached a three-decade high. The past two years with the need for several emergency’ spending packages, bond buy-backs, and printing lots of money it seems to mirror the same mistakes Government made in the Carter era.

      Since President Joe Biden has taken office, prices for consumer goods and energy have dramatically risen.

      In my view, our history shows when you tax the rich, they just pass these losses on to the consumer.

      Didn't Biden promise to tax the rich, and bring back our economy? It seems we are headed down a path that the rich get rich, and the poor --- "well you know the thing!"

      1. Valeant profile image88
        Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Joe Biden's inflation?  When you print 30% of all US currency in existence in one calendar year, and that year would be 2020 when the Fed needed to prop up the economy due to a horrific response to a global pandemic, that will be one cause of inflation. 

        When a pandemic limits the creation of new product, then there is a large demand for existing product, such as used cars since no new cars were being built (where as used cars are about 40% of the current inflation figures), there will be rises in prices.  Was it Biden in control when the country had to shut down and stop making goods and services?

        Here is a very good article from December of 2020 about the topic.
        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles … ge-of-2021

        And your claim that the rich are only getting richer now that Biden is president is a joke, right?  For the last four years, we've listened to you crow on about how good Trump was for the Stock Market and how you've done so well.  Well, for the first half of 2021, the Stock Market has done better with Biden in charge.  But now that Biden is in charge, suddenly, a strong economy is something to complain about.  And expectations will be crushed when you can build confidence back into the economy by doing your job and getting people vaccinated.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Well said!!

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        "The past two years with the need for several emergency’ spending packages, bond buy-backs, and printing lots of money it seems to mirror the same mistakes Government made in the Carter era." - YOU DO realize who was president for the last two years, don't you?  Here is a clue - it wasn't BIden.

        Didn't Republicans promise to stop Biden from doing anything.  Since the minority controls the Senate, who is to blame here?  It certainly isn't Biden.

        We have been going down that path you mention EVER SINCE Trump because president.

        "In my view, our history shows when you tax the rich, they just pass these losses on to the consumer." - FIRST, no, history does not show what you are trying to imply and SECOND, the first phrase has nothing to do with the second phrase of your sentence.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Another thing Biden can take credit for ...

          https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/15649230.jpg
          EXCLUSIVE: The number of detainees who tested positive for COVID-19 in the Rio Grande Valley (RGV) Sector alone has increased by 900%, according to information obtained by Fox News.  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/covid- … er-numbers

          There were 135 detainees who tested positive in the first two weeks of July alone, marking a 900% increase in confirmed positive cases compared to the previous 14 months.

          Biden is totally ignoring the border crisis - More than one million illegal immigrants have been apprehended crossing the border since Bidens took office Yet he sees no problem with COVID infections rising 900%  compared to the previous 14 months.

          Why in the hell are we as a people, not demanding answers? We have been fighting this virus for over a year and a half and this dead-headed man is letting infected people pour across our border and flying them all over the US.

          One can also imagine how many more immigrants are pouring in not being detected. Get ready to mask up people... Joe is not in any respect curbing the spread of DELTA. In fact, he is helping to ensure the spread. 

          This president is incapable of doing his job.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            There you go again misrepresenting numbers to give a very false picture of reality.

            Just using your numbers (as I did where you said I didn't provide a link) we get this picture of reality.  You claimed there were 135 detainees who tested positive in the first two weeks of July.  Then you try to impress us with the fact that represents a 900% increase over the total from the last 14 months.  Working backwards, that means there was a grand total of - wait for it - a whopping 15 detainee covid cases over the last 14 months!! Finally, subtracting, that means there were 120 positive Covid cases in the last two weeks. 

            Now let's take your million apprehension in the last 5 months.  That averages 200,000 a month or 100,000 every 2 weeks.  OK, those are your numbers.

            Let's add a few of mine.  Number of unvaccinated Americans - 77,000,000 (Kaiser Foundation estimate of 37%). Current number of positive cases every two weeks - 504,000 (current 36,000 daily rate from Worldometers times 14 days).

            We now have what we need for a non-hyperbolic comparison.

            Rate of positive cases from your data: 120 per 100,000
            Rate of positive cases currently in America: 654 per 100,000 unvaccinated Americans (every two weeks).

            SO, what is the problem you are trying to create with your hyperbole.  Seems like it is much safer to be among the detainees to me?

            Also, do you REALLY BELIEVE, there have been only 15 positive cases in the last 14 months (remember, these are your numbers).  I suppose those who believe in the Big Lie would believe a Fox News report, but I am surprised you do.  When will you learn Fox News hosts LIE.

            And to deflate your bubble a bit more - Biden has maintained Trump's policy of turning away people testing positive.


            THE REAL CULPRIT in spreading the Delta-variants are unvaccinated Americans, largely you conservatives, and NOT Biden.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image82
              Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

              https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ … 021-06-25/

              "WASHINGTON, June 25 (Reuters) - U.S. authorities have made more than 1 million arrests of migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border so far in fiscal year 2021, according to preliminary figures shared with Reuters, a tally that underscores the immigration challenges facing President
              Joe Biden."

              VERY SAD STATS   Your quopte
              "Let's add a few of mine.  Number of unvaccinated Americans - 77,000,000 (Kaiser Foundation estimate of 37%). Current number of positive cases every two weeks - 504,000 (current 36,000 daily rate from Worldometers times 14 days)."

              I am proud that you posted this sad failure of Biden. he just can't get people to step up and get vaccinated.  Only 49% of American's are vaccinated.  Makes us very distressed to think of how many would have been vaccinated if Trump was still president. Hey, he provided Biden the vaccines, but Joe --- well not many trust him to his administration IMO

              And as I said this old guy instead of thinking about closing the border, more or less puts the virus on busses and airplanes and sends it to a town near you. LOL.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                "I am proud that you posted this sad failure of Biden. he just can't get people to step up and get vaccinated.  " - YOU ARE RIGHT, then start campaigning for mandating the vaccines to stop mostly conservatives from killing more people.

                BTW, what makes that "sad" is your side, the conservative side, won't listen to him and the doctors about getting vaccinated.

                Virtually EVERY case of Covid, and the resulting deaths, today are at the feet of conservatives who won't get vaccinated.  Why aren't you railing at them????  Why aren't you saying things like [u]"it is sad conservatives]/b] won't get vaccinated". [/u[

                "Makes us very distressed to think of how many would have been vaccinated if Trump was still president. " - GIVEN Trump's record, the answer would be [b]a hell of the lot LESS
                .

                BTW, where did you get your low 47% figure from?  It is actually 56% that are fully vaccinated (mostly Democrats and Independents) with many more that have one shot.  Were you trying to give the reader a false impression of reality?

                As to your discriminatory "old man" snark, all I have to say to that is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nfiyLQwXHE

    28. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      "Across forecasts, the US is projected to hit growth rates that haven't been seen in decades"

      And given inflation has been suppressed for so many years by both the Obama and Trump administrations tied with the drying up of than then explosion of demand due to Covid, it is amazing it isn't even higher than it is.  --  Some might claim that Biden did a great job in limiting its growth.  (I am not one of those because I know he has little control over inflation, the FED does.)

    29. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      "What are the Great Things President Joe Biden Has Done While President" 

      Well, not great but another thing Biden has done or I should say not done.

      On another subject --- It seems Biden is doomed to fail with his infrastructure bill. He just does not seem to get a win on his own.

      A test vote on Biden's bipartisan infrastructure bill fails Senate amid GOP objections

      Senate Republicans on Wednesday mounted a filibuster against a motion to debate a nearly $1 trillion infrastructure bill that President Biden brokered with a bipartisan group of senators, dealing a big setback for efforts to fund new roads, bridges, and broadband improvements.

      The procedural vote in the Senate needed 60 votes to succeed but fell short at 49, with Republicans complaining Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., rushed to a vote on a bill that wasn't quite ready.

      Sen. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell called the test vote a "stunt" earlier Wednesday and correctly predicted it would "fail."  https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bi … objections

      However, the Republicans are open to a more sensible bill and hope to work with the Democrats to get an infrastructure bill that is all about infrastructure and not free stuff...

      So, pleased to see the GOP stand their ground.

    30. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      More negative news on the economy ---

      The number of Americans filing for FRIST-time jobless benefits last week unexpectedly rose from pandemic-era lows.

      The Labor Department said Thursday that 419,000 Americans filed for initial jobless benefits in the week ending July 17, above last week’s upwardly revised 368,000 filings. Wall Street analysts surveyed by Refinitiv were expecting 350,000 filings.

      Inflation, unemployment.  Increased wage, cut in employees,  and rise in prices for us all... Wow-what a great plan to pay citizens to stay home, looks like we are losing businesses in many cases due to them not being able to get workers LOL  -- And just think of all the taxes we are losing due to the snowball effect from losing all these businesses.   

      Just another problem that Biden caused with his stay home enjoys the summer $300.00 bucks...  And what does Joe do - toss more cash in a child tax payment.  Someone better tell Joe the piggy bank is empty.  Better stop trying to pay for votes, he is sinking our economy.

      So much trouble coming and coming with the speed of a train.

    31. Kathleen Cochran profile image82
      Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      He,  nor anyone he has appointed, is under indictment.

      He has returned the US to international respect.

      He does nothing to embarass us day in and day out.

      He has let the scientists take charge of fighting the pandemic.

      He is presidential and his staff respects the office.

      He is supporting legislation that the majority of Americans want passed.

      I think today he is being accused of his first lie and I'm sure he will apologize and clarify what he meant.  By now in the Trump administration I believe we'd lost count of his lies.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        And that's the TRUTH!!!

    32. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Using Trump's favorite measure of success, the stock market, President Biden is doing an outstanding job.  The markets set records last week and Biden is putting Trump to shame.

      America needs more of Biden.

    33. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks to President Biden, the economy is now bigger than it was at the beginning of the pandemic.  It grew at a sustained 6.5% annual rate, the highest in decades!  Keep it up Joe!

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/economy/ … index.html

      1. Valeant profile image88
        Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Then when it shrinks again because so many Republicans who are unvaccinated will cause the economy to slow, we will get the same forum posts blaming Joe for the slow down.  Can't wait.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          You may well be right - the refusal to vaccinate may slow the economy right back down. 

          Or the refusal to knuckle under to requirements to protect idiots that refuse to protect themselves may be ignored.  We'll have to wait and see, but my money (for the moment) is that folks aren't going to take much more, particularly when it is designed to protect those that refuse to participate in the nationwide effort to protect all of us.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image87
            Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            I think your confidence in a system built on making profit (Big Pharma), and vaccines that are completely experimental (have not gone through years of regimented and carefully observed tests) is an example of how some of us are easily influenced by the MSM narrative.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Question - how many years of testing does the yearly flu vaccine go through?  How many people are subjected to those "regimented and carefully observed tests" each year for that new flu vaccine?

              It is my impression that the vaccine is remade every year, based on projections and best guesses as to what the flu bug will look like.  This absolutely precludes those "years" of testing.  What is your impression?  How long and how many years of testing is performed for each year's new flue vaccine?

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Not to mention that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are an entirely and much safer delivery mechanism that has been under development for over 10 years.  I wouldn't be surprised that most vaccines won't be made using this technique.

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              "I think your confidence in a system built on making profit (Big Pharma), and vaccines that are completely experimental " - That, Ken, is right-wing myth. 

              There is very little difference in the data requirements on safety and efficacy between getting an EUA and full authorization.  Yes, they do need a few more months after the issuance of the EUA, but that data is already in.  All the FDA is doing now is looking at manufacturing and distribution before issuing their ruling. 

              These vaccines are no longer experimental let alone your false characterization that it is [i]completely experimental[/i[

              Frankly, it is that kind of rhetoric from the right that is killing thousands of people.

        2. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Interesting point.  I wonder if economy will shrink that much.  Unlike the original pandemic, the whole country locked down because nobody was safe.  Today, at least half the population, those who are vaccinated, is safe (although they can still spread Delta).  Plus, more and more large employers are mandating vaccination before employees can come back to work.

          The question is - can businesses keep up production with just vaccinated employees (or those who keep testing negative). 

          Another question - as Delta roars through the unvaccinated who chose to make themselves, their kids, their families, and strangers sick or dead will become smart and start getting vaccinated in larger numbers?

          What is interesting and plays a part as well is this - conservative America is not where a large portion of GDP is produced and it is conservative America that make bad choices by not getting vaccinated.  So even if Delta decimates the South, how much impact will it really have on GDP?

      2. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Sure did - sustained for a whole quarter!  As businesses re-open from being closed, it grew enormously.  For a whole quarter!

        Gotta love the spin that it was somehow sustained for more than the minimum time necessary to see it.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          "Sure did - sustained for a whole quarter! " - WRONG AGAIN!, LOL.  It is "Sure did - sustained for a whole two quarters! "  Two quarters = half a year.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Perhaps you need to read your link, and then think about what it says.  Because the 6.5% you tout as being sustained for two whole quarters (6 months) is the highest since 2020. 

            Think about that - it was higher than the first quarter of 2021.  It was NOT, then, "sustained" for 2 quarters.  Even your sly spin (making it sound like far more than the measly two months you now mention) is false to fact for it was lower in the preceding quarter.

            1. Valeant profile image88
              Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Arguing to argue, and not doing it very well.

              Eso's statement:  It grew at a sustained 6.5% annual rate, the highest in decades!

              The article's statement in the opening paragraph:  The US economy in the second quarter expanded at a slower rate than expected but still at its fastest pace since last fall, growing at a seasonally adjusted, annualized rate of 6.5%.

              Those two statements seem pretty similar, unless you're from Idaho, I guess.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                Didn't read far enough, did you?  From the link: "It was also only little changed from the first quarter when the economy grew at an annual rate of 6.3%."

                Doesn't sound to me like the 6.5% was "sustained" for more than a single quarter, as the first quarter was lower.  Of course, simply reading that it was the highest since last fall (which you quoted) should have clued you and Eso in that it was NOT "sustained" for more than a single quarter.

                Do people from New York equate 3 to 5?  Perhaps their lower grade math courses need to be revamped a little.

                But I guess that pointing out arithmetic fallacies is just "arguing to argue", right?

                1. Valeant profile image88
                  Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Like I said, arguing to argue.  Eso cited 6.5% annual, the article said 6.5% annual.

                  And an increase in a rate certainly sounds like something sustained.  Sustained:  continuing for an extended period or without interruption.  6.0% to 6.3% to 6.5% definitely fits that definition, unless you cannot comprehend what sustained means.

                  And I'm just going to choose to report that pettiness instead of trading barbs with you since all you do is write nonsense until it devolves into insults.

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Hmm.  You do understand that in your example, the sustained figure is 6.0, not 6.5?  It will always be the lowest of the group, never the highest. 

                    You see, 6.5 is greater than 6.3, so 6.3 is included in the 6.5 figure.  However, the opposite is not true; 6.5 is not included in 6.3.

                    This is elementary arithmetic - perhaps NY needs to improve their schools?

                    (By the way - the article said 6.5% annual, for ONE quarter.  Eso said 6.5% annual for TWO quarters.  There is a difference between one and two, just as there is between three and five).

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  "Doesn't sound to me like the 6.5% was "sustained" for more than a single quarter, as the first quarter was lower.  " - That is called "wordsmithing" for sake of being pointlessly contrarian.  Sensible people understand the meaning even if you don't.

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    Is this the definition of "obtuse"?  I do not, for one second, believe that you think the 6.5% rate you claim was sustained was the rate for the first quarter.  The article makes it very clear it was not (did you read the article?), and I assume you understood the simple English it used.

                    6.3 < 6.5; ergo the first quarter was less than the second and therefore the second quarter rate was NOT "sustained" for more than the second quarter.

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                And the caveat about "last fall" refers to the one quarter bounce back from from the pandemic low before falling back to 4.3% in the 4th quarter.  It then rose to 6.4% and 6.5%, back to back numbers not seen in decades.

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              Boy, you can't get anything right, can you.

    34. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Another great Jobs Report from President Biden.  Almost 1 million people put back to work and unemployment drops to 5.4%,

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/economy/ … index.html

      Even better, the misinformed unvaccinated are getting a clue and are protecting themselves and others in greater numbers.

    35. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      I do not hold the following as a "great" thing President Biden has done - although Trumpers might.

      I am an admitted hawk when our national security interests are in peril.  I know I am in the minority on this but I supported our involvement in Vietnam and I support our remaining in Afghanistan.  In both cases, I firmly believe our national security interests are threatened.  On the other hand, I opposed our involvement in Iraq because 1) I saw no threat to our security from Iraq and 2) I saw a major threat to it from Afghanistan.

      President George W. Bush blew it, in my opinion, by turning the focus of the fight against terror away from where it originated in Afghanistan to an unnecessary war in Iraq. .President Obama was left the hand he was dealt in Iraq by Bush but rightly refocused on Afghanistan - but he was too timid.

      Trump didn't do any worse in Afghanistan than his predecessors until he announced our withdrawal from Afghanistan.  That was the beginning of the debacle we see there now.  President Biden had a chance to correct course but didn't - he made it much, much worse.

      Both Trump and Biden has proved once again that America cannot be trusted to keep its promises and that they are willing to put our national security interests at risk because Americans got tired of doing the right thing.

      Biden's botching of first, announcing that America is giving up the good fight and second, the cut-and-running will forever put a blot on whatever other great things he has and will accomplish accomplish in the four years he is in office.  SAD.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

        "Biden's botching of first, announcing that America is giving up the good fight and second, the cut-and-running will forever put a blot on whatever other great things he has and will accomplish in the four years he is in office.  SAD."

        Agree very sad...   Let me remind you Trump's administration further destroyed al-Quida and destroyed ISIS.  They will once again gather and rule the middle east.

        Biden is hiding, and one thing is a fact --- he will be responsible for any and all that die due to his poor decision-making. Just as Trump would have been if he had won and botched this pull-out. I am tired of hearing non-sensible excuses for Bidems mistakes.  All presidents make mistakes, can calculate wrong. But Americans could have been pulled out long ago before Biden offered a pull-out date. 

        Biden's polls make me realize more are coming to see what a mistake it was to put him in the White House.

        The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, sponsored by The ANTIFA by Jack Posobiec, for Monday shows that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Biden’s job performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.

        The latest figures include 26% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 43% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17

    36. Sharlee01 profile image82
      Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

      A bit of a return to the subject of the thread ---   Are you reconsidering your support for Biden in any respect now that you have witnessed his job performance of six months?

      The pandemic has not been "put behind us" we are dealing with over a hundred thousand DELTA cases a day, and Dr. Fauci claims this winter will be worst than last winter.

      We are still in a recession, that shows no real signs of slowing.

      Overall, the number of unemployed is at 8.7 million.

      Tuesday, August 17, 2021, Again polls are indicating they do not feel confident about Biden's presidency or approve of his job performance.

      The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, sponsored by, for Tuesday shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Biden’s job performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove.

      The latest figures include 27% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 45% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -18. (see trends)

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        No, beyond this blunder, he has done a great job in pulling America out of the hole Trump put us in.

        His decision to pull out of Afghanistan is supported by the vast majority of Americans (even though I think it was bone-headed and dangerous to national security).  Three presidents before him said they would.  Two of them didn't, and Trump started to without having a fall back plan - he just did it.

        The same can be said of Biden - he made a promise and he kept it regardless of the consequences.  Only time will tell what went wrong in the analysis of how much time he had to withdraw.

        Personally, if I had made that decision, I would have dumped another 30,000 troops in there, then taken the fight to the Taliban, while at the same time pulling all Americans and allies out, as well as any women who wanted to leave.  THEN, and only then, would I have pulled the troops out and let the country fall.  I'll bet you anything that is something like what the military advised him.

        "We are still in a recession" - ACTUALLY, we are not.  The NBER recently announced the recession had ended in April 2020 after reviewing the data.

        "Dr. Fauci claims this winter will be worst than last winter." - 1) I thought you guys didn't listen to Fauci and 2) the only reason it will be is 100% on the shoulders of the unvaccinated, the plurality of whom are white Republicans.

        How come you never mention that Biden is still above water while Trump NEVER was?

    37. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      Here is what started the debacle in Afghanistan that will stain Biden's otherwise great record forever.  It is true, everything Trump touches, dies.

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/politics … an-cnntv/i

      1. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Let me reorient you to who is president at this time his name is Biden --- all of this mess is on him IMO. He should have used simple common sense to remove civilians before troops. He would not listen to his own military. and though he knew best. Well, it appears he has one of the biggest messes we have needed as American's to witness.

        Common sense is something Biden does not have..

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          And let me reorient you to the fact because of Trump, Biden's withdrawal was going to fail.  IMO, Biden should put more troops in, not take them out just to fill a campaign promise and the will of the people, even though it is clearly against our national interest.

          "He would not listen to his own military. and though he knew best." - SOUNDS like your hero.  Why are you so proud of Trump for doing exactly that??  Isn't that called hypocracy?

          1. Sharlee01 profile image82
            Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

            Gen Milley ---   WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY’: With 6,000 troops committed to defend the Kabul airport and less than two weeks until a self-imposed Aug. 31 deadline, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin says he doesn’t have enough forces to help Americans or qualified Afghans get to the airport for flights to safety.

            “I don't have the capability to go out and extend operations currently into Kabul,” Austin said in his first public comments since the fall of the capital Sunday. “We don't have the capability to go out and collect up large numbers of people.”

            https://news.yahoo.com/hamstrung-austin … 00385.html

            Last I knew Biden commanded our military...  Can't wait until Gen Milley is heard at a Congressional investigation of Biden's leadership in the pull out.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              "Gen Milley ---   WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY’:" - Yes, you are correct, Trump didn't leave enough troops in country to do the job properly.

              The fault of Biden is not inserting more troops before drawing down - but then you would have criticized him for that as well.  It seems you like to put him down whether there is a reason or not?  In any case, he is doing it now.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Really? Trump had ample troops, the Bagram airport was functional, and he left an agreement.

                He also had Fox News has obtained the June 11 memo sent around the State Department which gave the green light on the "discontinuation of the establishment, and the termination of, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR)."

                The sensitive but unclassified memo was signed by Deputy Secretary of State Brian McKeon, just a couple of months before the Biden administration’s botched troop withdrawal that saw Afghanistan fall under Taliban control.
                source --  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- … -ccr-kabul

                His house of cards has collapsed. He was warned by many that this mess would occur, and now he has our military surrounded in the last airport in Afganistan like defenseless sitting ducks. The troops can't leave the airport.

                Believe what you please.... I would think it's obvious the trouble Biden has created and will need to answer for.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  "Really? Trump had ample troops, the Bagram airport was functional, and he left an agreement." - Bull.  He was supposed to leave 8,500 troops.  He didn't do it!  Instead he left 2,500 troops with a promise to withdraw the rest before he left office.  Why can't you understand that simple fact??

                  So, in reality, Trump FAILED to 1) follow the agreement and 2) to do what he said and withdraw all troops in January.

                  Since Fox is known to lie a lot, anything they say must be verified.  Find me an honest news outlet that corroborates Fox's claim.  All I saw was a bunch of right-wing propaganda outlets.

                  But what is true, Republicans voted AGAINST speeding up the visa process of what you claim was needed.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    The troops Trump left had Bagram up and running when he left office.  That is a  Fact. Trump's agreement had the date of May 1 2021 to be out of Afghanistan. I provide the agreement that shows that very date. That's also a true fact. Do I need to post the entire agreement once again --- read the agreement? I assume you have gotten all this information from the media. READ THE AGREEMENT. The media do have not to portrait the agreement with any actual facts from the agreement.

                    In regard to the Fox report  --- I have verified it with several different sources.

                    I am not interested in defending Trump, he has nothing to do with this evacuation mess, in any respect.  Biden made his own problems, he always does.

              2. Sharlee01 profile image82
                Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                He sent troops into an airport that is surrounded by the Taliban... These troops are sitting ducks. He should have pulled the people that needed to be evacuated before drawing down troops. He should have listened to the General's, and the CIA

                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation … s-n1277026
                .

                1. Valeant profile image88
                  Valeantposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Or maybe perhaps Pompeo and Trump should not have assisted in the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners until AFTER we had withdrawn our people.  They said they never trusted them, but assisted in providing them the forces to overwhelm the Afghan government.

                  Take a look in the mirror for once.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    This comment in my view is unrelated to the fact that Biden has made decisions that put our troops in harm's way, as well as thousands of American's and allies. He has botched this pullout. He did not listen to his own intelligence. In my opinion, he is not and never was suited to serve as president. This has nothing to do with how trump letting people out of our military prison. Afghanistan was under control while Trump was president, not a death of a soldier in 18 months. The Taliban was for all purposes contained. He left an agreement that Biden choose not to follow, he dismantled a committee on June 11, 2021, that was planning for a safe evacuation of Americans/others from Afganastan.

                    Biden as I have said from day one has no problem-solving skills, he is mentally compromised IMO.

                    He needs to resign or be impeached. He is not equipped to be president.

                    These 5,000 had nothing to do with this poorly planned evacuation.

                    I find it odd you tell anyone to look into a mirror. can't imagine anyone at this point defending the actions of this man.

                    Just this morning it was reported Biden's own state department on July 13, 2021, warned the rapid collapse of Afganastan, and a suggested plan to help get people evacuated. 

                    The investigation of this mess will out that Biden took it upon himself to make all decisions without considering his the State Department, and the CIA, and his Military... The chips are falling, and no one is willing to take the blame for this fool's decisions. He is toast, and the day they impeach him can't come too soon.

                  2. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    Maybe you should consider what Biden has done... What he has done to make this historic dangerous mess. 

                    It would seem you are dwelling on Trump once again, he is not the president. He had a plan to remove all that needed removing before the troops... So easy, so common sence. He also would not have left weapons, aircraft, and intact airstrips... That would be Biden's dession.
                    That would be our current president.

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  "He should have pulled the people that needed to be evacuated before drawing down troops." - That is what I have been saying, isn't it.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                    Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    That was Trump's plan... Too bad Biden did not use that very common-sense solution --- he can't solve problems only make them. Maybe it's time to realize that... Think border mess, think our soldier trapped on an airport in Afghanistan. He is not suitable to be president.  IMO we would not be looking at this situation if Trump were in charge -- he is a problem solver.

                    I am encouraged and find hope due to the polls that indicate more American's are realizing their mistake in voting for Biden. Better late than never. .    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions … e-nervous/

      2. Sharlee01 profile image82
        Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

        This mess is on you guy... Trump had the situation under control. all came down on Joe's time. And CNN well just a very poor source at best. The link seems to have been taken down. This happens frequently at CNN. Perhaps a retraction?

        1. Ken Burgess profile image87
          Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          CNN... where we fabricate news 100% of the time, if it isn't fake or opinion, it isn't CNN!!!  big_smile

          And if we get caught... well, we just delete the evidence!  yikes

        2. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          "Trump had the situation under control. " - LOL.  As The Hill article makes perfectly clear, Trump is the one that destabilized everything by

          1.  Not following his own plan.
          2.  Drawing down way to fast in the end
          3.  Not getting ANY concessions from the Taliban
          4.  Not including the Afghan gov't in the plan
          5.  Not forcing the Taliban to the negotiating table which the "plan" called for.

          Face it - Trump totally blew it.

    38. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      I will admit that Biden's mishandling of the Afghan withdrawal has set our relations with our allies back to the bad old days of the Trump administration.  At least he isn't insulting them like Trump did, but not consulting with them is plenty bad.

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/politics … index.html

      1. Ken Burgess profile image87
        Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        World leaders laugh at Biden, they found him to be a joke, incompetent at the G7... where he was exposed to the world to be a buffoon.

        They may have not liked Trump, but they feared what he might do, or respected that he might do something. 

        I'd rather be disliked but considered capable of action, then laughed at and considered incompetent.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image82
          Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

          Biden's words ring in my ears ----  "America is back on the world stage."

          Teah he sure kept that promise in spades. Can't wait to read the reviews of the poorly directed play...  Buffon is too kind.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            "World leaders laugh at Biden, they found him to be a joke, incompetent at the G7... where he was exposed to the world to be a buffoon." - Actually, that is not even close to being true.  You are describing how they felt about Trump.

            Yes, they also feared him as they would fear any mad man with power.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image87
              Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this
            2. Sharlee01 profile image82
              Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Feared? Did you see the news out of the UK today? Do a bit of research on that if you are interested. World leaders are starting to chime in...

              https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/18/worl … n-too.html
              https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 … an-pullout

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                I couldn't read the NYT link - firewall

                But the Guardian doesn't address European leaders fearing mad man Trump.  Instead, it talks about Biden fumbling on Afghanistan.

                I find it ironic that Trump dodged the same bullet by once again not doing what he promised the Taliban to withdraw entirely by January leaving the field to them.  Since Trump failed to do what he said he would, that left Biden to finish the job for him.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image82
                  Sharlee01posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Perhaps it's time to stop blaming Trump for Biden's mistakes?

                  1. Ken Burgess profile image87
                    Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    Exactly.

                    Can we not evaluate Joe Biden... on what Joe Biden says and does?

                    Day 1 in office, he essentially shuts down drilling for oil and gas in America.

                    A few months later he is literally at a podium begging foreigners to produce more oil.

                    Nov 04, 2020 · The national average price for gasoline was $2.11 gallon.

                    Aug 11, 2021 · The national average price for gasoline was $3.15 gallon.

                    ----

                    Biden immediately ended the national emergency that Trump declared on the border in February 2018.  He issued new "standing orders" to BP Agencies that they were to catch and release, into America, illegal immigrants crossing the border.

                    Biden’s DHS terminated enrollment in the Migrant Protection Protocols. Otherwise known as “Remain in Mexico,” this program provided that migrants who “illegally or without proper documentation” entered the United States from Mexico would be returned there while their claims for asylum were processed.

                    Biden's words as he ran to become President were loud and clear, here is one example: President Biden urged them to “come” to the country if they were being “oppressed.”

                    “They deserve to be heard. That’s who we are,” Biden said at the time. “We’re a nation that says, ‘You want to flee, and you’re fleeing oppression, you should come.'”

                    They are currently coming to the tune of almost a million a month.

                    ----

                    Afghanistan ... could have been handled in many different ways.

                    How Biden addressed the matter could have been handled differently this past week.

                    This is Biden's mess, same with the border, same with energy prices, etc. etc. not Trump, not Obama, not Bush... Biden.

    39. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

      More news that Biden's recovery plan is working, much to the consternation of Conservatives.

      - Retail sales are significantly above pre-pandemic levels
      - FRED Atlanta is predicting a nice 6.1% GDP 3rd Q growth, which continues the sustained growth numbers of 6.2% and 6.5% the previous quarters
      - 943,000 jobs were added in July.
      - Unemployment is 5.4% in July, down from 10.2% a year ago and 6.3% when he took over, It is below the historic average.

      1. Valeant profile image88
        Valeantposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        In terms of the rising gun violence that one of our far-right whiners will undoubtedly bring up to try and turn the narrative to a negative:

        Chicago, which had seen homicides fall below 500 in the early 2010s, saw them jump to 770 in 2020, though not to its historic 1974 high of 970 homicides.

        New York City saw more than 2,200 killings in a single year in 1990, compared with 468 last year, according to city data. In the bigger picture, that’s a nearly 80% decrease.

        Los Angeles saw more than 1,000 homicides a year in the early 1990s, compared with fewer than 350 last year.

        But what’s happening with homicides is not part of some broader “crime wave.” In fact, many crimes, from larcenies to robberies to rape, dropped during the pandemic, and continued to fall during the first few months of 2021. “Crime” is not surging. Even the broader category of “violent crime” only increased about 3% last year, according to the preliminary FBI data from a large subset of cities. It’s homicide in particular that has increased, even as other crimes fell.

        Homicide rates were higher during every month of 2020 – even before pandemic-related shutdowns started in March, the analysis found. But there was also a “structural break” in the data in June, indicating “a large, statistically significant increase” in the homicide rate, around the same time as the mass protests that followed the murder of George Floyd.

        A study from UC Davis will look to link the spike in gun purchases during the early months of the pandemic with a nearly 8% increase in gun violence from March through May, or 776 additional fatal and nonfatal shooting injuries nationwide.  The researchers found that states that had lower levels of violent crime pre-Covid saw a stronger connection between additional gun purchases and more gun violence.

        Community groups say that the pandemic forced them to shutter prevention programs, and created huge challenges for the work of violence interrupters, who rely on close relationships and in-person interventions with people at risk of shooting or being shot.

        So it appears there are many factors that have led to the rise in homicides, starting back in 2020.  But when the right claims it's historic, they seem to be oblivious to the 1990's and 1970's.

        And here's a stat from this year:  In the first quarter of 2021, homicides rose by 23% compared to last year. In the second quarter, they rose by just 10%.  The rates for other major criminal offenses—includes robberies, residential burglaries, larceny, non-residential burglaries and drug offenses—have also declined compared to 2020.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          "Chicago, which had seen homicides fall below 500 in the early 2010s, saw them jump to 770 in 2020, though not to its historic 1974 high of 970 homicides."

          I don't think it's reasonable to compare figures from 1974 to those in 2020 and declare that 2020 was better so all is not bad.  After 44 years of working on the problem we certainly should see a decrease - the comparison to 2010 is a much more realistic one.

          I ran into this when researching for the article on gun violence: Australia confiscated all semi-automatic guns and look!  Homicides went down!  Unsaid is that it took over 10 years of falling at the same slow rate it already was before the gun buyback to see any real change in that rate.  10 years of effort, 10 years of additional programs, 10 years of a changing population demographics, but all of that is set aside in favor of "It worked!".

          So it's not realistic, IMO, to compare something from the far past to today and ignore all the changes in decades of effort to correct a problem.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            "I don't think it's reasonable to compare figures from 1974 to those in 2020 and declare that 2020 was better so all is not bad. " - WHY? Your side has successfully fought off most of the safety measures that were implemented back then.  For example, the assault weapons ban Biden brought about saw a major decrease in mass killings only to increase again when your side allowed people to start buying them again.

            "Homicides went down!  Unsaid is that it took over 10 years of falling at the same slow rate it already was before the gun buyback to see any real change in that rate." - YOU will have to provide the link that backs that claim up for it to be believed.

            "So it's not realistic, IMO, to compare something from the far past to today and ignore all the changes in decades of effort to correct a problem." - AND I repeat, your side made sure access to guns by almost anybody has not changed very much over the intervening years.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              "WHY?"

              If you didn't understand the explanation, or don't think that changes were made over that 45 year span, I don't what else to say.

              Yes, access to guns has not changed radically over the years.  Except that it is much harder to buy a gun, much more expensive, and the efforts continue to ban common hunting rifles.  But whatever; the efforts to disarm the public does not, and will not, do anything to curb the violence inherent in our country.  Until we actually address that we will not significantly reduce the death toll.  As Australia found out; taking away all those "assault rifles" and murderers simply turned to other methods (the common match became popular).  Same as they will here, regardless of how many times "your side" claims that without their preferred tool killers will no longer kill.

          2. Valeant profile image88
            Valeantposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            You don't think it reasonable, then tell your friends on the right to stop using the term historically bad when talking about the homicide rates.  That was my argument, which, as usual, you fail to understand.

            In Australia, the guns were taken to prevent mass shootings - which ceased immediately.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              As they did, for the most part, in America after the assault weapons ban.  An no, Wilderness, people didn't find new ways to commit mass killings after their favorite took was taken away.  Also, you can't get away from the fact that states with loose gun safety laws have higher death by gun rates.  It is simply a fact.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Sorry, Eso, but you have again glossed over a really major point; that areas with the strongest gun laws (such as Chicago, NYC, etc.) have the highest homicide rate of all.  Even the highest homicide by gun rate.

                But shouldn't mention, that right?

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  By city is too granular a level and the population base is too small.  That is why you have to use state level data.

                  Besides, lets see where your example cites fall on the most deadly:

                  1, St, Louis, MO (easy gun laws)
                  2. Baltimore , MD (tough gun laws)
                  3. Birmingham, AL (easy gun laws)
                  4. Detroit, MI (easy gun laws)
                  5. Dayton, OH (easy gun laws)
                  6. Baton Rouge, LA (easy gun laws)
                  7. New Orleans, LA (easy gun laws)
                  8. Kansas City, MO (easy gun laws)
                  9. Memphis, TN (easy gun laws)
                  10. Cleveland, OH (easy gun laws)

                  Damn, your examples didn't even make the top ten deadliest cities.  I wonder why.  So where do they fall? 

                  13. Washington D.C.(lots of straw sales from Virginia with easy gun laws)

                  That's it.  NYC and Chicago, your favorite go-tos, don't even rank in the top 64!!

                  As you peruse this list you will see that virtually all of the most deadliest cities are in states with Easy Gun Laws - which shoots your theory all to hell.

                  So NO, " that areas with the strongest gun laws (such as Chicago, NYC, etc.) have the highest homicide rate of all.  " is not even close to being true.

                  https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder … -cities/3/

            2. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              "In Australia, the guns were taken to prevent mass shootings - which ceased immediately."

              I doubt that the dead, whether burned to death, poisoned or bludgeoned to death, care whether they were shot.  Neither do the surviving families.  Still, it IS a major talking point of the left; far better to die of arson than a bullet, so we have to disarm everyone.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                "I doubt that the dead, whether burned to death, poisoned or bludgeoned to death, care whether they were shot." - Of course that is a red herring since it has nothing to do with whether the assault weapon by-back program reduced mass killings - which it did.

                I guess it is possible that you are claiming that all of the people that didn't die by mass shootings all died by other means, lol.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  I researched the people dying from "massacres" (Aussie term for mass murder), comparing the 20 years prior to the gun buyback to the 20 years after.  Did you?

                  (As I recall there were perhaps 2 more people dying AFTER the buyback than before.  I think you can find figures in Wiki, but might have to go to the Aussie govt. sites.)

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    You made me look - and this is what I found.

                    "In the two decades following the reforms, the annual rate of gun deaths fell from 2.9 per 100,000 in 1996 to 0.9 per 100,000 in 2016."

                    That is from https://theconversation.com/factcheck-q … alia-85836

                    That said, as it relates to statistical analysis done on the by-back program  (as a stand-in for general gun reform during that period) is muddled.  I would have to look at the analyses themselves to measure them against what I see in the first of the charts.

                    What I see here is a major fall off in gun related suicides and homicides in the two years following the beginning of the gun buy-back.  After that, the declines appear to match the rate that was established prior to the buy-back.  The article does not explain that initial drop.  But, I can see from the charts why the subsequent analyses could be muddled.

                    I also notice within a couple of years after the program ended, the rate of death by gun decreased substantially.  That was not addressed as well.

                    The article also mentions the Victoria case where that state implemented very strong gun-safety laws in 1988.  The conclusion was "A 2004 study found “a significant downward trend” in firearm related deaths between 1988 and 1995 in Victoria compared with the rest of Australia. Following the National Firearms Agreement in 1996, “similar strong declines occurred in the rest of Australia”.

                    Of great interest to me is a 2010 study that was done across states, similar to the one published here.  Like mine, it showed that -
                    The study found a “statistically significant decline in firearm deaths in states with higher firearm buyback rates”. There was a similar effect for firearm homicide rates, though this was less robust due to the small number of firearm homicide deaths to begin with. 

                    That was the same result I got using the strength of U.S. state gun-safety laws rather than buy-backs.

                    And then there is the point Valeant made - not one mass shooting since the buyback program.  Compared that to the USA where assault weapons are ubiquitous -

                    [i[But that record will probably fall in 2021. To date, the number of mass shootings in the country is 20 percent higher than where we were in 2020, which itself was 30 percent higher than the previous high.[/i]

                    This year’s incidents have also been deadlier than in 2020. Nearly 370 people have died in mass shootings in 2021, nearly 50 percent more than at the same point a year ago.

                    The country is averaging 109 deaths for every 100 incidents. At this point last year, every 100 mass shootings had yielded 85 deaths.

                    In the 7 months since the beginning of the year, there have 411 mass shootings.  That is an average of 58.7 per month - compared to zero in Australia.

        2. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          "A study from UC Davis will look to link the spike in gun purchases during the early months of the pandemic with a nearly 8% increase in gun violence from March through May, or 776 additional fatal and nonfatal shooting injuries nationwide." - MY RESEARCH, which I published here, shows a definite correlation between loose gun safety laws and the number of people killed by guns.

          I don't know if the data is available yet (the gun lobby tries to suppress it) by I would be interested to know the distribution of recent gun sales by state as comparted to 1) the laxness of the gun safety laws and 2) the change in death rate by gun.

      2. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        "Unemployment is 5.4% in July, down from 10.2% a year ago and 6.3% when he took over, It is below the historic average."

        You forgot to mention that it is still well above what Trump produced.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          And I didn't mention that it was above Obama's final numbers either.
          And everybody forgets that Trump's final numbers were just a continuation of what Obama started.  He didn't increase the rate of decline established by Obama.  At the end, btw, the decreases stopped..  And then came Covid,

          The point was that even in the midst of a pandemic, Biden has brought unemployment to below the historic average.

          BTW, studies now show that all the Red states did by cutting of unemployment early was hurt their citizens.  There was no statistical difference in unemployment between states the cut the funding and those that didn't.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            "And everybody forgets that Trump's final numbers were just a continuation of what Obama started."

            And Biden's are just a continuation of what Trump had, too! lol

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Actually that is not true since Trump handed Biden a pandemic much worse than it should have been.

              Obama handed Trump a strong, stable economy.

              Now that I mention it:

              Eisenhower handed Kennedy a poor economy
              Johnson handed Nixon a war and an OK economy
              Nixon-Ford handed Carter a poor economy
              Carter handed Reagan an unstable economy
              Bush handed Clinton a recession
              Clinton handed Bush decreasing debt and a strong, but no longer growing economy
              Bush handed Obama the Great 2008 Recession
              Obama hand Trump a strong stable economy
              Trump handed Biden a pandemic much worse than it ought to have been.

              Can you see a pattern there??

        2. Ken Burgess profile image87
          Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          I think we should look at the big picture of the moment.

          Joe Biden... obvious cognitive decline has set in, he was clearly under duress and unable to handle the crisis (media, decision making) in Afghanistan.

          Kamala Harris... incompetent and incapable of handling as simple a task as traveling to Guatemala and Mexico without turning it into a fiasco.

          And sitting behind the two of them, in the number three spot, is Nancy Pelosi.

          Never in the history of America, has the country had such inept, incogitative leadership. 

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4LiLjHawUs

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            If those three are "leadership" I'm Santa Claus!

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              While the characterization of Biden is obviously false, you did fail to mention the King of the inept - Donald Trump and his very corrupt administration.  His makes Grant's administration look absolutely law-abiding.  At least he got to be King of Inept since he failed to become America's first king.

              1. Credence2 profile image80
                Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

                Esoteric, you should not be so hard on US Grant , a military genius, a man of great character who simply was not as effective as a President or administrator.

                Grant did not recognize the unscrupulous in his midst during his administration while Trump was part and parcel of the very thing that Grant merely could not recognize.

                Grant was a man of honor and character, that is not Trump.

                There is no comparable precedent for a Donald Trump at any time during the history of the presidency.

                He was the worst of the worst, adding malevolence to his ineffectiveness. He is the only former president that has absolutely nothing to redeem him in the eyes of history.

                So, go easy on President Grant, he deserves better than to be compared with a man like Donald Trump.....

                I would consider Andrew Johnson as a "distant" second, though.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  Actually, I was talking about his administration, not Grant personally.  What I have read about him in history shows him to be an honorable and capable man.  But, he was a terrible at hiring honest men to work for him.

                  If I were to rank presidents, I would put Trump next to last and Johnson dead last, at least in terms of doing harm to the country.  Johnson undid virtually everything Lincoln achieved in trying to bring America together. 

                  It took 100 years to undo the damage Johnson did to racial equality.  And ever since 1964, conservatives have been trying to get back to 1884.

            2. gmwilliams profile image83
              gmwilliamsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Exactly,  I second that, saying if this is "leadership", I am a trillionaire.

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

            AND With "Joe Biden... obvious cognitive decline has set in," - any sensible person stops reading because what is to follow will be equally non-sensical.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image87
              Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

              Yes truth and reality are something many in America hide from.

              It has become an art form for many older Americans.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                "Yes truth and reality are something many in America hide from." - You are definitely right - they are called Trumpers.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image87
                  Ken Burgessposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                  If that is what you are calling yourself these days, so be it.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 10 months agoin reply to this

                    That is you, not me - I deal in reality and truth - something Trumpers disdain.