The Capitol Siege: The Arrested And Their Stories

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    PrettyPantherposted 14 months ago

    I came across this webpage that lists every person arrested for the insurrection at the Capotol. You can filter the database for type of charges, state of residence, association with extremist groups, military background, etc. It is kept up to date as new information is known.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/96547204 … ir-stories

    1. Credence2 profile image82
      Credence2posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      "IF TRUMP TELLS US TO STORM THE F***IN CAPITAL IMA DO THAT THEN!" one defendant wrote. "I thought I was following my President," said yet another."
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      Geez, just how dumb can you get?

      Most seem to need a strong refresher in basic civics studies.

      Law Enforcement and the military should know better.

      The rest appear to be just racist and misogynist kooks.

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        PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        I didn't find any Antifa, nor did I find anyone masquerading as a Trump supporter. Just real Trump supporters acting upon their love of the man who convinced them he was a victim of a stolen election.

        1. My Esoteric profile image89
          My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Yeah, there was one Antifa there - it was a Trump supporter dressed up as one, according to the charging documents.

        2. My Esoteric profile image89
          My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Did you read they arrested and jailed a Trump political appointee who still worked for the State Dept and went back to his job after invading the Capitol?

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            PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            No, I missed that one. I will check it out.

            1. My Esoteric profile image89
              My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this
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                PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                I continue to be amazed at the entitled mentality of these people.

                As I'm typing this, my husband just said "I'm almost ashamed I was once a Republican." He switched parties shortly after Trump took office.

                We are wondering how many Republican legislators will be revealed to have helped extremists in advance of the insurrection.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  Do you also wonder how many Democrat legislators will be revealed to have helped extremists in the other riots through the nation last year?  Whether by standing by and watching or actively helping?

                  (Although, to be honest, we will never hear of those.  A handful of participants, another handful refusing to allow help to control the riots, but nothing on the hundreds that simply watched and did nothing.)

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                    PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    Lol, okay.  By all means, please share which
                    Democrat legislators helped Antifa in advance of a siege on a government body.

                  2. My Esoteric profile image89
                    My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    None.

                    But using your criteria how many Trumplicans (none of the Republican congress people) in Congress helped the right-wing rioters at the same demonstrations, or their own, who burnt buildings themselves or killed peaceful protestors on the left?

      2. My Esoteric profile image89
        My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        I think they stopped teaching civics in high school, assuming these guys and gals even went.

    2. My Esoteric profile image89
      My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      BTW - There are now two suits against Trump.  One includes him, Giuliani, the Proud Boys, and the Oath Keepers, I think.  The other, more interesting one is against Trump, Trump Jr., Giuliani, and Rep Mo Brooks.

      Both use a law designed to punish groups like the KKK for interfering with the work of Congress.  The second one also brings in a DC law against inciting to riot.

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        PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Yes, I am following. I would like to see these people held accountable for their actions, not just the schmucks who fell for their propaganda and ruined their own lives in support of a lying demagogue and his henchmen.

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          My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Absotutely.  They can give Trump and Giuliani adjoining cells (unfortunately, these aren't criminal cases) so they can concoct more conspiracy theories, lol.

          On a serious note, the real value of these lawsuits is the discovery they will require.

    3. My Esoteric profile image89
      My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Trump lost by millions of votes and caused the near collapse of American democracy with his "BIG LIE" that he didn't.  Well it just came out officially that the Russians, under the direction of Putin, did everything they could, short of changing votes, to help Trump win.  Imagine how badly Trump and maybe the other Republicans might have lost if Putin had kept his nose out of our elections like the Chinese apparently did!!

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/politics … index.html

      Also in the report is an in-depth description of how Putin tried to sow discord about the integrity of our voting process.  One of the ways they did this was use Trump's surrogates (can you spell Giuliani?) to pass their disinformation on.

      I find it very coincidental that both Putin and Trump spent so much time (and still are) pushing the BIG LIE that the elections were fraudulent.  I wonder what those two talked about during their many secret conversations?

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        PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Not surprising, and I wouldn't put anything past Trump

        1. My Esoteric profile image89
          My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Different subject.

          What a refreshing difference.  When Trump interviews, most of what he says are BIG LIES.

          When Biden interviews, the CNN fact-checkers still find inaccuracies, but BOY what a difference in scope and intent.

          In a recent ABC interview, the fact checkers found three instances:

          1. Biden said (remember, he has a stuttering problem he works to overcome) - ""60% of all these tax breaks go -- all these tax breaks go to the bottom 60% of the population." - the Trumplicans will point to this as a Big Lie because the actual number is "67.4% of all these tax breaks ...".  Then it is unclear if Biden corrected himself or partially repeated himself with the second phrase.  If he really meant, which I doubt, "ALL" then he is wrong.

          On Central America he said ""I was able to get a bipartisan bill passed for almost $800 billion to go to the root cause of why -- why people are leaving." - OOPS, I hope.  The real number was $750 [/b]million[/b].  Was it intentional as most of Trump's exaggerations were or a slip of the tongue?  Anyway, CNN reported it.

          On filibuster history, Biden said - ""Look, I think -- don't hold me to the numbers, George, but I think between 1960 and 2000, there were -- I'm making this number up, I don't know -- there were, like -- you know, 50 filibusters. Now there're, like, 200 since then..." - YEP, CNN reported that one as well, even though Biden caveated the hell out of it.  The real numbers are roughly 25 a year between 1961 and 2000 when Democrats largely controlled the Senate to a whopping 75 average per year when Republicans (and especially McConnell) controlled the Senate between 2001 to 2020.  Talk about abuse of power and why it needs to go back to the old ways.

          https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/politics … index.html

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            PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            I am quite pleased with the Biden presidency so far. Yes, there are so many refreshing aspects, and it is a relief to listen to our president speak without being inundated with a barrage of brazen, jaw-dropping, incredibly dumb lies.

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              wildernessposted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Have you opened your home to a dozen or so illegal aliens being welcomed across the border, then? 

              Biden has made a raft of bad decisions, but those concerning our southern border have to top the list as all time gaffs.  Not only has he refused to take action to stop illegal crossings he has actively encouraged more of the same.  To the point that he has been forced to admit it.

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                PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                The influx of people at the border is a serious problem and, yes, since it has been widely reported that this administration is doing its best to halt and repair the inhumane policies of the previous administration, the numbers have dramatically increased. It is a serious problem, one that I will give him more than two months to address before I criticize.

                1. My Esoteric profile image89
                  My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  It will take quite a while to undo all of the damage the now departed incompetent administration left for others to clean up.

                2. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  Why two months?  The solution was being implemented - stop the influx, stop the encouragement, stop the incentives - and Joe has ended all that.

                  Why give any time at all, given that he is actively encouraging illegal border crossings with his new "let 'em stay" policies?  He has created the problem this time around, after years of working to end it.

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                    PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    He did not create the problem, and your rosy view of Trump's border policies is not shared by everyone.

              2. My Esoteric profile image89
                My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                " he has actively encouraged more of the same. " - That is an obvious lie.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  Then you obviously don't know what he has done.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image89
                    My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    More than you apparently.

            2. Credence2 profile image82
              Credence2posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Biden has surprised me in a pleasant way by not cowarding before an obstinate GOP, yet not willing to shut them out completely as long as they want to negotiate in good faith.

              He has not ignored his left flank and is at least taking their issues and concerns seriously. He has the potential of moving the ball down the court in a way experienced only from our greatest presidents.

              1. My Esoteric profile image89
                My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                AND he had the audacity to speak the truth to a murderer by calling Putin a "killer".  Trump never had the balls (or desire) to confront a fellow autocrat.

                I will throw Trump one bone, however - while Trump IS responsible for thousands of deaths, mainly Covid related, he never planned any like Putin.

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                PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                Yes! He is using his knowledge gained from his many years in Congress and also appears to be remarkably open to change, but in a practical way. I am very pleased so far.

                1. My Esoteric profile image89
                  My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  As am I, from the more moderate side.

                2. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  You are pleased with the changes at the southern border, and the resulting hordes of people entering the country illegally?

                  You are pleased to see the price of gasoline rising again?

                  You are pleased to again bear the lions share of the global costs of clean air?

                  You are pleased to (once more) add tremendous debt onto the backs of your children?

                  All changes brought about by Biden - do the results please you?

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                    PrettyPantherposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    roll

                    Your interpretation is simplistic, partisan, and faulty. And to say all these changes were brought about by Biden is absurd.

                  2. My Esoteric profile image89
                    My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    Let's see, you are equating "hoards of People" to lots of kids

                    We create the lions share (along with China) of world pollution, so yes, we should bear the cost.

                    Just as pleased as you are with the "tremendous debt" Trump put on the backs of your children.  The difference is, this debt is to help people, Trump's debt was to help the rich.

                    It seems to me that rising gas prices means demand is finally building back up (or supply is running low).  Since Biden is helping the economy grow, my bet is on increasing demand.  Since Biden has done nothing to reduce supply, it can't be for that reason.

                    A third option is that all of that excess supply that drove prices down during the pandemic has been used up.

                    I think this is just another case of you flailing to denigrate what looks to be a great president.

    4. My Esoteric profile image89
      My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting - Former top federal riot prosecutor thinks Trump may be indicted for Insurrection

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/21/politics … index.html

      1. Sharlee01 profile image83
        Sharlee01posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Oh well, once again a "former" giving his opinion from the outside looking in... This is the only sentence that held relevance in the article.

        " US Attorney for DC Channing Phillips, have not directly addressed whether Trump will be investigated."

        That statement is added for  CNN covering ass at the end of the article. Guess we might want to wait and see if Trump is charged with ANYTHING.

        1. My Esoteric profile image89
          My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          And what is wrong with "former" who JUST recently was on the inside looking out.

          "Michael Sherwin, the former acting DC US attorney, also said he believes sedition could be a charge made against some Capitol riot defendants.
          "It's unequivocal that Trump was the magnet that brought the people to DC on the 6th," Sherwin said in response to a question from "60 Minutes" about whether Trump is part of the investigation. "We have soccer moms from Ohio that were arrested saying, 'Well, I did this because my president said I had to take back our house.' That moves the needle towards that direction. Maybe the President is culpable for those actions."
          Sherwin noted that other rioters have acknowledged they went further than the President's speech."

          "Sherwin's candid comments come as he leaves his Justice Department post leading the Washington, DC prosecutors' office and its sprawling investigation into violence at the Capitol. He was appointed to the job during the Trump administration. "

          "When CBS' Scott Pelley followed up to ask Sherwin if investigators were looking into Trump's role, Sherwin responded, "We have people looking at everything, correct. Everything's being looked at." - I think you are smart enough to read between the lines.

  2. Sharlee01 profile image83
    Sharlee01posted 14 months ago

    I don't read between lines... In the past, that seemed to get me in trouble. just was simply pointing out. As of yet, Trump has not been charged with anything. And that is not for the lack of the Dems trying.

    1. My Esoteric profile image89
      My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      And that, for sure, is true - for criminal charges, for now.  He has been charged civilly, however.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image83
        Sharlee01posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        As I said on many occasions, it is very apparent Trump has many open investigations, and it will be interesting if he is charged with any form of civil or criminal crime. Let's face it many are working hard and long to make your dream come true.  It's a wait-and-see scenario. If they can get him on anything, they will.

        1. My Esoteric profile image89
          My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          As they should be.  Look how long it took to bring Al Capone to justice.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image83
            Sharlee01posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            I don't dispute any form of investigation on anyone that there is a suspicion of wrongdoing.  I do look poorly on anyone that condemns on just a possibility of wrongdoing.  That goes for anyone.

            1. My Esoteric profile image89
              My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Had you been alive during Al Capones time, or any of the other gangsters, are you suggesting to me that you would have defended them as you do Trump until they were convicted?

              How about Hitler?  I condemn him but he was never convicted.  Do you defend his character as well?  Will you give Hitler )or a whole host of really bad people who were never convicted of anything) the same breaks you give Trump?

              I point out these absurdities to show you how untenable "I do look poorly on anyone that condemns on just a possibility of wrongdoing." is.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                I think this post says it all, Eso.  The left has never been strong on abiding by the laws, whether we like them or not, but has been drifting (rushing?) towards that court of public opinion (read: hanging mob) rather than a jury of peers presented with facts and information.  Your post fits very snugly into that category.

                1. My Esoteric profile image89
                  My Esotericposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  That, of course, makes no sense at all.

                  Different subject.  Did you know that you, personally, have about a 1 out of 100 chance of being killed by a gun, either by your own hand or others in you lifetime?  So do I.  So does Sharlee.  So does every other person.
                  Of course, that only holds for America and almost nowhere else in the world.  Everywhere else, it is much, much lower.

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    1% of all Americans will die by gunshot?  Not sure what you've been smoking but I want some of it!

                    Did you know that more people die from bludgeoning than all long guns combined (including the dreaded "assault rifle" that idiot liberals insist must be removed from the land as the cause of most murders)?

                  2. Sharlee01 profile image83
                    Sharlee01posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    Hey, my chance might be higher living near Detroit and visiting my daughter in Chicago... But the thugs in both cities use handguns. Last week in Chicago 30 were

                    March 8tg 2021 --22 shot, 2 fatally, in Chicago this weekend, including wounded 11-year-old

                    March 23, 2021   -- At Least 21 Shot, 4 Killed In Weekend Gun Violence In Chicago; Police Officer, 10-Year-Old Boy Among Those Wounded

              2. Credence2 profile image82
                Credence2posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                Never in the history of the Presidency had we ever had a occupant with so much of the appearance of wrong doing whether he is convicted or such or no.

                If there a a lot of flies around what is it that is attracting them?

 
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