Tomorrow is March 4. From Newsweek, a week ago:
With one week to go until the next significant date in the QAnon calendar, supporters of the radical movement are waiting for March 4 with a mix of exhilaration, cautious optimism and even straight-up denial.
The conspiracy theorists see Thursday, March 4, as yet another "last throw of the dice," believing that Donald Trump will somehow be inaugurated as president again on that day.
The date has been widely discussed online by QAnon supporters since President Joe Biden took office on January 20. They believed that Trump would arrive at the inauguration ceremony and carry out the long-awaited "storm," ordering mass arrests and executions of satanic pedophiles and "deep state" figures working against him.
When this failed to happen, many believers felt disillusioned and concluded that the almost religious-like movement they had been following for years was a lie
For others, the lack of a "storm" was part of the plan all along. Without any apparent self-awareness, they shifted their focus to March 4.
https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-march4-t … nt-1572005
I personally know two people who believe this conspiracy theory and several others who say they hope it is true but are not willing to admit they believe it. Of course, I live in a heavily Trump-worshipping area.
This may very well be a naive question, but I really want to hear what people think. Who is Q and why hasn't he/she/them been targeted and shut down by law enforcement?
From what little I know of QAnon, nobody knows who Q is, not even his followers.
Do you wonder why our intelligence agencies have apparently not been able to identify Q?
Intelligence agencies may know who Q is and haven't made it public because they are keeping tabs on him/her/it. There has been some talk of it being of Russian origin, but "everything" has either been of Russian origin or Antifa nowadays.
I saw a special on the "QAnon phenomenon" recently that hinted that QAnon started out mysteriously as a game online (riddles being posted), and gullible people took it seriously. Knowing the mentality of SOME people, I can buy that. If that is true, the originators are playing a deadly game, and when they are discovered I hope they will pay dearly.
After reading the article by tsmog, I just don't know. Why would someone intentionally sow such delusion and lies? It results in nothing good, just a bunch of fear and anger from the sad victims.
I'll read tsmog's article. I can't answer your question. I'm just setting out what was posed in the CNN special. But they hinted that it started out as a joke and not a deliberate attempt to fool people, but when gullible people misunderstood and fell for it, they seized the opportunity. I could speculate that it is someone with the same crooked and cunning mentality as those who cook up those dishonest pfishing calls and emails. We get at least 5 calls a day from "Unavailable" on our landline.
I read the article, too, and while it was enlightening, it didn't throw nearly as much light on the subject as CNN's program. Unfortunately, I can't find the complete program. Maybe it is available to stream, but here is an excerpt from it:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 … -episodes/
I don't believe one can explain the kind of mind that would create QAnon and keep it going. Maybe somebody like the ones who run the scams out of Nigeria and other countries that trick innocent people out of their money. Anderson Cooper's interview with the former QAnon believer is 15 minutes long. In it he apologizes to Cooper for believing that Cooper ate babies and drank their blood.
From what I read they are beefing up security at the capitol just as a preventive measure. At Qanons.com, which Google censures, there are no recent articles regard March 4. BTW . . . you can read that site at Bing where I do. That site currently has several articles about CPAC and Trump.
Q began as an entity posting what is called 'drops' at a social media site 4chan. From what I gather Q is more of an official account that has moved from that site to another currently at 8kun. There is speculation the owner of the site is Q. To get a grasp of the history check out this Slate article Was the Identity of Q Really Just Revealed. About midway it discusses the identity. The article is from Sept 2020 and to me is pretty thorough for the social media history of Q. Its about a 5 minute read. The end of the article hints at it really doesn't matter who Q is to the followers.
That is an interesting article. Thanks for sharing. I also think that if Q were to be revealed as just some schmuck and not a high-level insider that Q followers would not believe it. How many times will these predictions fail or be proven wrong before Q/Trump believers realize they've been played?
Qanon to me is a social phenomena arriving through social media conspiracy theory with many false predictions. I spent some time last month reading here and there on it beginning with Wikipedia, which is quite lengthy and thorough. What I found revealing was the families that were being torn apart because of it demonstrating the foothold it has on some. There are support groups the biggest on Reddit for those dealing with the affect on family and friendships. One article is from Buzzfeed with personal stories.
Yesterday I discovered a Forbes article states that 56% of Republicans believe it is mostly or partly true. (Sept 2020) A Wired article (Oct 2020) states that 7% of people believe in or support Qanon. The article went on to explain the results of its poll, which asked about the eight specific false claims it is based on rather than a singular question of do you believe in Qanon. To me pretty revealing. Since they are pre-election one could argue they are not valid today.
The question is, what is more absurd... that article, the people who believe what that article pertains to, or the people who believe that the people who believe in that Q stuff to be a serious threat?
Don't bother... this issue does not warrant further debate... its nonsense compounded by nonsense that someone legitimizes by making it "news" worthy of being printed.
So, you do not believe that widespread belief in conspiracy theories, many fueled by crazies following Q, we're a factor in the Capitol siege?
I think there are many crazies out there, those numbers have been swelling since they closed down the Institutions back in the 70s... leaving those who are a threat to themselves and others at large in the populace.
I think that is being compounded by millions who have lost their jobs, homes, and any hope for the future.
However, to your point about Q, if that were true, and it were the cause of all the people present for "the Capitol siege" as you put it, that wouldn't improve my opinion of my fellow Americans any.
I wonder if Q is a psyops of one or more of our intelligence branches being used to shape public opinion of those who would otherwise seem more rational and relatable Americans?
I didn't say it was the cause of "all" the people who participated in the siege.
I also do not think these are the same type of crazies that were de-institutionalized in the seventies. These were, for the most part, employed or retired people with good incomes that enabled them to travel from all across the country to participate in Trump's riot. Which leads me to also disagree with your characterization of them as having lost their jobs, homes, etc. The profiles of those arrested simply do not match your characterization of them.
I don't think those are the Q followers Ken, unless you think most of Trump's most ardent adherents belong in one of those closed institutions.
Now that they blew that one, what is next on these Baker Act fodder's calander?
Oh, hello Kenna, and what good deeds do you have planned for tomorrow? It will be yet another big day for Trump....yes?
Here is one way. Mimic the Bradford County Democrats "We Care Initiative"
Well, its March 4th (D-Day) and still nothing from the "Q" Continuum?
So hey, today is March 4.
Has Donald Trump emerged from his secret bunker underneath the Capitol yet to re-take the Presidency, arrest Biden and Harris for "stealing" his election, and begin the mass executions of those behind the vast Democrat-controlled worldwide child trafficking network?
(taps foot impatiently)
....nah, I didn't think so.
On to the next important date in the Quniverse. Of course, the day is not over....
Perhaps he found that his miles long tunnel from the Jefferson Monument flooded and he's waiting for SCUBA gear and something to keep his assault rifle dry?
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