CDC Data released shows a total of 387,087 reports of adverse events

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   Readmikenowposted 3 years ago

   So, why isn't this data available from the CDC mentioned by the mainstream media?
   
   "Latest CDC VAERS Data Show Reported Injuries Surpass 7,000 in Ages 12 to 17 Following COVID Vaccines
   VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 387,087 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 6,113 deaths and 31,240 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and June 18, 2021.
   
   CDC finds ‘likely’ link between heart inflammation and mRNA COVID vaccines
   As The Defender reported June 23, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) said there is a “likely association” of “mild” heart inflammation in adolescents and young adults after vaccination.
   
   Members of a CDC advisory committee acknowledged 1,200 cases of heart inflammation in 16- to 24-year-olds, mostly occurring in males, and said mRNA COVID vaccines should carry a warning statement — but physicians and other public commenters accused the CDC of exaggerating the risk to young people of COVID, and minimizing the risk of the vaccines."
   
   https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/06 … syndicated

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      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for sharing this... I have heard a bit about the problem of heart inflammation in 16- to 24-year-olds. I wish more information about the vaccine was available on an ongoing basis.  It seems at this point not much is being covered about the  COVID variances either.

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      Ken Burgessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      This is alarming considering these are the CDC numbers and I am sure the issues related to the vaccine are being greatly under reported .
      
      One thing I am certain of, many adverse reactions and side effects go unreported or misdiagnosed, likely the real numbers are double (or worse) what is being noted by the CDC.

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         Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         The CDC has proven itself to be very dishonest or at best very "controlled " on what they are sharing. They have flip-flopped on COVID information frequently during the pandemic, and have a long history of being untrustworthy.  So, I am with you and very alarmed about what is being shared or not shared in regard to problems that may be occurring with the vaccines.
         
         I truly worry that the CDC may back vaccinating young children before they return to school in the Fall. I am concerned about a teachers union that may pressure the Biden administration to get on board with vaccinating our young children.
         
         I have very much come to not trust not only the CDC but the current administration. IT is very apparent the democrats are willing to drop all that is COVID, including an investigation on its origin.

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      abwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I am not surprised by this data, Mike. At one time, here in the States, it would take 12 years on average to get a new drug FDA approved and safely out to the consumer. There are many hoops to get through ...until now.
      Early on, I was of the mindset (when the Covid-19 vaccines were rushed through) that the most vulnerable; the elderly in nursing homes and the very sick/immune-deficient needed a rushed-through vaccine, time was of the essence! But NOW, this mighty push for everyone, even the young, even the healthy, to get the vaccine?!? Although the evidence is there, we see what is happening much too often, with {mostly male} adolescents and young adults. Yet, the push continues!?!
      What's going on?

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   wildernessposted 3 years ago

   I would only comment that no professional gambler seeing those odds (350,000 out of 322,000,000) would hesitate to go all in.  Particularly when the chances of losing the game is only 6,000 out of 322,000,000; the rest of the time only small losses happen.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      6,000 is 6,000. It's not a gambling scenario. If even one person has deleterious symptoms that's one too many.

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         Readmikenowposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Kathryn,
         
         I agree.  These are not poker chips were talking about.  These are human beings with lives they could have lived should it have not been for taking this vaccine.  The trend toward these "adverse events"  in increasing.  A scientific publication claims the vaccine has the potential to cause as much damage to people as COVID itself.

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         wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         And if even one dies from COVID that the vaccine would have prevented then that's one too many.
         
         It most certainly IS a gambling scenario; all of life is.

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      Ken Burgessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Risk permanent harm to heart and nerves over a flu-like virus that claims almost 0% of the young?
      
      Spoken like someone who does not have young boys to worry about, and has not listened to the experts raise the alarm about how dangerous this is.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxuNvVgxlU
      
      Full discourse on the matter (banned from youtube):
      
      https://odysee.com/@Covid_Vaccine:6/TH2HAmTp40xq:a

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         wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Again, what is that "almost" figure that COVID claims, compared to what the vaccine claims?
         
         And what long term effects does COVID produce compared to long term effects of the vaccine?
         
         Seems like you're forgetting, or ignoring, the death toll and damage from COVID.  Every vaccine carries a risk of injury or death - we use them anyway because the same risk from the disease is so much greater.  It is a false picture to present only one side and allow emotional responses to dictate our actions.

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            Ken Burgessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Try watching those links.
            
            They will explain why this vaccine is so incredibly dangerous especially to the young.
            
            The COVID-19 vaccine is a misjustice of the language because it in no way, shape or form does it come close to the legal definition of a vaccine.
            
            It does not improve your immune response to the infection. It does not
            limit you from getting an infection. 
            
            This is messenger RNA that's encapsulated with nanoliposomes that are
            attached to something called PEG, polyethylene glycol, which is used to allow it to survive the transmission into the body and bond with the DNA.
            
            A typical vaccine stays isolated in one area, the Covid vaccine does not, it travels throughout the entire body, including the brain.
            
            The spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2 contain HIV and syncytin.
            
            You put the ACE2 receptor from a coronavirus, you put HIV, and you've
            expressed the gamma retrovirus envelope protein that is cross-reactive with our human syncytin.
            
            So this is why people are testing positive as you expressed that gene aberrantly under stress, as you wear the mask and cripple your immune system and change the expression of your genes.
            
            Have any idea what I am talking about?
            
            Have any idea of what this vaccine really is and what it does?
            
            Maybe you should try doing some research, listen to some Doctors and geneticists that are speaking out against this.... and you have to go look for their information because it damned sure won't be on your propaganda channels (IE - CNN, MSNBC, FOX)... educate yourself rather than regurgitate the stupidity perpetuated in the MSM.

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               wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               "Have any idea of what this vaccine really is and what it does?"
               
               As it DOES limit the number of cases of COVID in spite of your claim that it does not I have to question whether you understand what it does.  I don't have a clue as to exactly how it works, except to stimulate the body's immune response and build it before the actual virus is present, but you apparently don't have a clue as to the effects of it, either.

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                  Ken Burgessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Actually what I do know is that it is synthetic, it cleaves to our DNA and travels in the body in ways a normal Vaccine does not, it has not been properly vetted in labs and through years of study the way it should have been.
                  
                  One of us is right.  One of us has done hours of research... and one of us listens to MSM propaganda.
                  
                  When you say this "As it DOES limit the number of cases of COVID" how do you know this?
                  
                  How do you know that it doesn't cause those who get the vaccine from developing severe side effects?
                  
                  Pfizer and Moderna acknowledged that anyone with preexisting autoimmune disorders should not get this vaccine and even put that as a severe warning label on the box.
                  
                  How about this:
                  
                  "Scientific Study finds the spike protein used in Covid Vaccines causes Strokes, Heart attacks, and Blood Clots. A scientific study has been published which has found the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, used in the Covid-19 vaccines causes major vascular damage inducing strokes, heart attacks, migraines, and blood clots among dozens of other dangerous adverse reactions that have..."
                  
                  or This:
                  
                  "Reports released from Pfizer and Moderna show that seven COVID-19 vaccine trial participants experienced a type of facial paralysis, called Bell's palsy, in the weeks after vaccination. This rare side effect, in tandem with three reports of severe allergic reactions, has raised some alarm about the safety of the new vaccines."

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                     wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     "When you say this "As it DOES limit the number of cases of COVID" how do you know this?"
                     
                     Because the rate of COVID incidence in vaccinated people is far, far below that of unvaccinated people.  Far enough below that there is no chance it is merely coincidence.
                     
                     What are you using for evidence that "It does not improve your immune response to the infection." and "It does not
                     limit you from getting an infection. "

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                        Ken Burgessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        You don't know that Dan.
                        
                        You've been TOLD that by whatever "news" sources you listen to.
                        
                        I have listened to the very people who have invented mRNA vaccine technology, expert virologists, doctors on this issue.
                        
                        Where have you gotten your information?

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                           wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           Can't list it now as I don't remember.
                           
                           Can you give a link showing that the incidence of COVID after a vaccination remains the same or higher?  Just like me, you have made a claim (in direct opposition to everything I see); can you back it up with hard data?
                           
                           (I would add that my personal doctor gave me percentage effectiveness of one and two shots of the vaccine.  What numbers do you have, and from where?)

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                              Ken Burgessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              You are the one claiming that there is significant difference in the rate of infection between those who have been vaccinated and those who have not.  So feel free to provide the proof.
                              
                              What I SAID was that the "vaccine" has not been properly vetted, does not operate like a "normal" vaccine, cleaves to DNA (basically genetic manipulation), and is a risk to the health of those who get it, especially young men/boys.
                              
                              I DID provide links to some of those sources.  I also provided quotes, which can be copied, pasted, and put into Search.
                              
                              However, here is some additional reading regarding the concerns of this vaccine:
                              
                              https://www.jpost.com/health-science/co … erm-649253
                              
                              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33779985/
                              
                              https://neurosciencenews.com/covid-vaccine-fnd-18208/

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                                 wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                 "The Moderna vaccine requires two doses to be fully effective. It was found that up to 14 days after the first dose, the effectiveness was 50.8 percentTrusted Source. After that, it was about 92.1 percent. After the second dose, it takes about 2 weeks for your body to build full immunity. After that time period, the vaccine is approximately 94.1 percent effective."
                                 
                                 https://www.healthline.com/health/vacci … e-efficacy
                                 
                                 Do you need the other two as well?  They are all readily available over hundreds of sites over the world.
                                 
                                 What you said was "It does not improve your immune response to the infection." and "It does not
                                 limit you from getting an infection. "  I don't know of any other way to read that than that it does not help prevent the disease.

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                                    Ken Burgessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                    The COVID-19 vaccine does not contain the SARS-Co-2 virus, so you cannot get COVID-19 from the vaccine.
                                    
                                    The protein that helps your immune system recognize and fight the virus does not cause infection of any sort.
                                    
                                    A typical vaccine has some small amount or a weaker strain of the virus, the body being exposed to it, builds up antibodies against it, and retains those antibodies for months, or longer.
                                    
                                    As I understand it an mRNA  vaccine does not give you antibodies, it does not give you immunity to the virus, it is supposed to help the body identify the virus if one becomes infected, and in turn that is supposed to help the immune system react to it.
                                    
                                    The first sentence you quote was mis-stated/incorrect, that is my bad. 
                                    
                                    The second sentence you quote is what I did mean... the vaccine does not prevent you from getting Covid, it only aids the body in fighting the virus (if it works as advertised)... you will not have antibodies in your system built up ahead of time to fight the virus.
                                    
                                    Therefore, that second statement is true, it does not limit you from getting the infection.  But it does have potential significant and substantial side effects that are not present in "normal" vaccines.

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                                       wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                       Of course the vaccine does not give us the virus.  There is no possibility of that, and neither you nor I have said it did.
                                       
                                       Nor does it give us antibodies...but it DOES stimulate the immune system to produce it's own antibodies.  And because it has the same "connectors" and the COVID virus, those antibodies will effectively combat the COVID virus.  That's the way ALL vaccines work - the mimic the virus without causing harm or disease and the body responds by building antibodies.  More important, the "memory" of what the antibody is remains in the system and is available without delay in the future.  Or so I understand it all.  And THAT means the body responds much more quickly to a viral attack, beating it off before it overwhelms our immune system, which in turn means you don't get the disease.  Of course, all is a probability crap shoot when it comes to biology of that sort, and some WILL get the disease, but it remains that the probability is considerably lower after having the vaccine.

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