What do you think of Trumps' Truth Social launching?

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   tsmogposted 2 years ago

   On Feb 21st, 2022 Trump's social media site Truth Social launched. It is being called a Twitter wan'na be site. Though a little rocky start with some glitches, it was Apple App store #1. If you join today 02/23/22 you will be put on a wait list due to demand. It's easy to join and uses an email verification for joining. You can create a user name and remain anonymous to other users.
   
   Truth Socal landing page
   https://truthsocial.com/
   
   Terms of Service
   https://help.truthsocial.com/legal/terms-of-service/
   
   One thing to note is you can't criticize the site or you can be banned, though they say it is open platform with emphasis of free speech.
   
   ** So, what do you think?
   
   ** Will it succeed in the sense of the social media giants today or fall away like Parler and others?
   
   ** Will other politicians use it too?
   
   ** What about the far right using it like the Proud Boys and others?
   
   ** What do you think about Nunes being in charge?
   
   Interesting links:
   
   Fox News
   https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/tr … -app-store
   
   NBC
   https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald … u-n1282051
   
   Greek Reporter
   https://greekreporter.com/2022/02/22/tr … ocial-app/

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      Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I can't access the site due to being in Mexico at the time. I will defiantly sign when I return in April up. Pretty much to check it out. I think it will be very interesting to see how people conduct themselves when given online free speech.
      
      I understand there is a waiting list to become a user. Have you or will you, become a user? 
      
      I am sure it will bring out not only the far-right groups but the far-left groups.
      
      I do think some politicians will use it.
      
      Not sure why trump picked Nunes to run it. I don't think he has any tech background.

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         tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I doubt I will join. I joined Twitter to share my HP articles as well as other social media sites like Pinterest. I really don't have enough curiosity to join just to see. I get enough of left and right politics on FaceBook to keep me informed. I have no desire whatsoever to see Trump's posting. I follow him on FB and most of the time it is buy this or buy that stuff or donate to me.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I am very curious to check it out. Hey by the time I return to the States it might be down. LOL
            
            I don't have a Twitter account either. Hey, have you not noted how long-winded I can be? And my Facebook I keep it clear of political talk...  Just good old chatter between friends. 
            
            I don't follow Trump on Facebook, I do follow Melania, and keep up with what she does.

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      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'm waiting till it become available to Africa.                                       Then, I'm ether in or out! What ya say? Trump's a jolly good fellow!

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         tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I'm not a fan of Trump!

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   FatFreddysCatposted 2 years ago

   Not interested. I don't even use the "real" Twitter, so I'm not going to bother with the generic store-brand version.

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      tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      That is pretty much me too FFC. I joined Twitter when I first began writing here at HP to spread the word of my articles to gain views. That lasted maybe six months and haven't been back since.

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   Kenna McHughposted 2 years ago

   I have quite a few FB friends who have joined. I might after all the excitement dies down. We need to break up the censuring and diversify.

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      tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I am on FB everyday. I have as many left posts as I do right posts politically while also those of other countries. There has been no chatter what so ever since Truth Social's launch, so to me no on is interested.

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   Nathanvilleposted 2 years ago

   Never been there, nor looked at it, and don’t know anyone who has, so I’m not really qualified to comment other than to perhaps mention that new Legislation is currently going through Parliament in the UK which could quite easily nullify his new social platform in the UK?
   
   Trump's new social media platform may become a thorn in the side of moderate minded thinking America’s if it continues to spread harmful disinformation that Trump is so famous for.   But with NEW Legislation in the pipeline in the UK, Trump’s new social media site is likely to fall fowl.
   
   In 2019 the UK Conservative Government proposed new Laws to regulate harmful online content (Online Safety Bill); the Legislation has been delayed through Parliament because of the pandemic, but it is reaching its final stages, and could be law by the end of the year!
   
   The New UK Law will give Ofcom the powers to regulate, and make the ‘platforms’ themselves legally responsible for all content posted on that platform by its users.
   
   Platforms failing to comply with the new laws will be liable to fines of up to £18 million ($24 million) or 10% of their annual turnover, whichever is higher.  And Ofcom will have the power to block access in the UK to particular websites.
   
   The new UK laws will create a new duty of care for online platforms towards their users, requiring the platform itself to take action against both illegal and legal but harmful content; and under the new laws it’s not just legal action against the platform, but ‘Senior Managers’ can also be held liable for breaking the law!
   
   And it’s the last bit which will I’m sure be where Trump’s new platform will fall fowl under UK law, specifically “Legal but Harmful Content” e.g. disinformation about covid and vaccinations etc.
   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Bill
   
   What does Ofcom do?  https://youtu.be/cdVUr-NrXng

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      tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting! We to my knowledge don't have anything like that here in the U.S. . . . yet. There are always requests of the Social Media giants to aim there algorithms to dismiss dis- and mis- information, which they do do. But, as usual one side says it is prejudiced to them. And, on it goes.

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         Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, voluntary agreements on their own (a Laissez-faire approach by Governments) are never really that effective.  That’s why British Governments (regardless to politics) tend to have a two-prong approach e.g. be amendable to self-regulation in the first instance, with a threat of Legislating if self-regulation is deemed not to be effective enough.  That seems to work quite well e.g. with ‘food labelling’, because manufactures will much rather self-regulate properly (to the Government’s satisfaction) as they know that if they don’t then the Government will ‘Regulate’.
         
         It’s not just the UK; the EU can be just as tough.

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      wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It will be interesting to see how the UK version of censorship goes over.  Except for the penalties, it doesn't seem that far removed from that of China or Russia, particularly the ability to block websites the government doesn't like.
      
      I particularly like the "legal but harmful" information posted: what that means is that if you criticize the official government stance you will be jailed, fined, whatever.
      
      I'd have to say it's time to leave.  When the UK takes over and controls all information sites the end is near.

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         Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I do understand your concerns, but I don’t share them.
         
         Unlike Russia & China, in the UK it’s not the Government who has the ‘powers’ in communication, but Ofcom (Office of Communications).  And Ofcom is NOT a Government Department; it’s a government-approved regulatory authority.
         
         Ofcom was created by the Labour (Socialist) Government in 2003 by merging five regulatory authorities, thus making it stronger and more effective. 
         
         Interestingly in 2009 the Conservative (as opposition party) stated that if they came to power they would strip Ofcom of its powers; the following year the Conservatives did win the General Election, but apart from tinkering around the edges to make it look as if they were keeping their promise, they did little to strip Ofcom of its powers.  And in fact, the following year (2011) gave Ofcom more power and even more powers in recent years.
         
         I like the "legal but harmful" as well, I think it’s a cool twist.  In the future, Ofcom will be able to respond to changing situations quickly, rather than waiting years for laws to be changed keep redefining what is ‘illegal because it’s harmful’ e.g. to be able to tackle misinformation during a pandemic for example.
         
         However, your fear that in the future British Governments will use it to silence people who criticise the Government is unfounded because Ofcom is Independent of the Government, and it’s decision making is not made by the Government but made via ‘Consultations’ with ‘Industry’ and the ‘Public’:-
         
         •    Ofcom makes extensive use of consultations with industry and the public to help it make decisions based upon the evidence presented. Consultation processes begin with publishing documents on its website, asking for views and responses.  If the document is perceived to be long and complicated, a plain English summary is usually published as well.  A period of usually of 10 weeks is allowed for interested persons, companies or organisations to send in their responses to the consultation.
         
         •    After this consultation period, Ofcom publishes all the responses on its website, excluding any personal or confidential information.  Ofcom then prepares a summary of the responses received, and uses this information as a basis for its decisions.
         
         The only direct connection the Government has with Ofcom is that the Government appoints the ‘Chief Executive’ to the Board.
         
         The Current Chief Executive of Ofcom is Melanie Dawes, a British Economist and Civil Servant.
         
         The Chairman of the Board is Baron Burns, a British Economist who was knighted by Margaret Thatcher in 1983 (to become a life time peer in the House of Lords); he sits in the House of Lords as an Independent politician.
         
         There are eight other Board Members of Ofcom, including:-
         •    Maggie Carver:  English Businesswoman.
         •    Graham Mather:  A former EU politician.
         •    Ben Verwaayen: Dutch Businessman.
         
         Looking at the latest news headlines, the ‘Online Safety Bill’, in its final stages in Parliament is making speedy progress; and in recent days has been strengthened even more by the addition of various Amendments to the Bill e.g. the Bill has been updated to target anonymous accounts, and to give ‘users’ power to block ‘users’ who choose to stay anonymous.
         
         https://www.verdict.co.uk/uk-online-safety-bill/

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            Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Very interestingly enough. Ofoom is much placed as an independent body, free of government intrusions. Brits are a people that truely loves and protect their independence.

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               Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks; and yes, very true.

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                  Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  You're welcome.

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            Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            RT (Russian TV):  ‘State Owned’ and State Controlled Russian TV which Broadcasts in English around the world, including in the UK & USA.
            
            About 5 years ago the UK Parliament debated on whether RT (Russian TV) should be blocked from broadcasting in the UK; but Parliament decided not to on the grounds of “Freedom of the Press”.
            
            This week, in the light of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the UK Government has asked Ofcom to consider blocking RT (Russian TV) in Britain; no decision has yet been made, but it is under consideration by Ofcom.
            
            To put it into perspective:  Below, is an example of a recent broadcast by RT (Russian TV) –
            
            Broadcast by RT (Russian TV) on 26 Feb 2022 - Thousands of Chechen servicemen ready for Ukraine deployment):   https://youtu.be/m6V1yk9IBPo
            
            It wouldn’t be the first time Ofcom has banned an international TV broadcaster in the UK e.g. last February Ofcom revoked China’s CGTN licence; and in retaliation China blocked the BBC from broadcasting in China:  https://youtu.be/KFYHqa-P5n8

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   Valeantposted 2 years ago

   I'll always see it as untruth grooming, so no, won't be joining.

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      tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I kinda' agree. At this time I think it will at first be the rage of right wing/Republicans mainly Trump zealots joining. Maybe I am wrong. It will be interesting to see or read if it has the left wing people joining to post their views.

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   tsmogposted 2 years ago

   Recent news is people complaining about Truth Social censoring posts and banning people. To catch this news below is an article; Trump's Recently Launched TRUTH Social Under Fire for 'Censoring' Members, by Newsweek.
   
   https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-recentl … rs-1682922

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      Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Precisely why I wish I could have joined. I was curious to see if posts would be censored.  Seem's this site will be like all the rest.

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         tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I have to admit it did perk up my curiosity for a look about. I could let it languish after the curiosity subsided like other social media sites have. I mainly joined them to use for seeking views on my HP articles.
         
         As said early I am on Facebook every morning as I have many friends there many old friends from here at HP now long gone. And, friends going back twenty years or more, family, and keeping up with former employees and their families. I enjoy that seeing their continued growth in life. The Twitter approach does not offer that and I think the same with Instagram.

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