Can Putin Won the War He's Waging at Ukraine?

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   Miebakagh57posted 12 months ago

   Many are speculating that Pvin has carry the day at Ukraine when his commanderr are still out there on the battle field fighting.                                       Can Putin ever won his battle which he deemed to be executed in three days? But now is into a month! Put the money on the table if you want to!

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      Stephen Tomkinsonposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Hi. I suppose that we would have to define what we mean by "win".

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         Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

         Great! However, I use the word 'won' instead of 'win'.

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      There is no wins, justice and solutions in war.
      
      It's a lose , lose situation and killing is a mental illness, War is good for nothing. Only good for the undertaker. 
      Say it again.

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         Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

         In that case who should be the undertaker?

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            Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            That would be the wealthy who win the soils of war.

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

               oh, you are no fun.
               
               PS the wealthy gain the SPOILS of war.
               Not the "soils."
               
               (the undertakers get the soils)

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  I disagree: The wealthy are not the undertakers. They are just the wealthy.
                  They have their own (lack of) rewards.

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                  Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  Spoils off the soil of war. Wealthy make billions and trillions off the oil and Centro banking from war. Murdering is a great part of their business and I want no part of.

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                     Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                     ... and you would never want to become the president, king or leader of a country. What if you did actually wake up some lifetime as the son of a king and inherit a kingdom? Now you are responsible for your land and your people, now you must be their ruler or all hell would break loose. Would you want them to be your slaves or would you give them freedom to follow their own individual wills? Would you want to give up your kingdom and take a small little plot of it and become a nobody? when you could actually create a system of government which could bring about freedom, prosperity and justice for all?

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                        Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                        I find nationalism more dangerous than religion or any kind of smaller government group. Like smaller countries are happier than large Countries because they are more graceful for handling most problems.
                        It's impossible to centralize everyone to think the same, better off to serve ones circle first.

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               Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

               My apologies for coming late on this. You know they're other threads for me to ride.                                                  I disagree whether you mean soil or spoil.                                           Actually, worms are suppose to be the gainer!

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   FatFreddysCatposted 12 months ago

   Shouldn't this be in the "topical" forums?

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      Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I'm sorry I forgot that. I've not been posting threads for up to six months. It beats my memory.                                        I hope hubpages staff saw it move to the topical forum. Thanks.

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   Miebakagh57posted 12 months ago

   Is Putin not defeated and a losser? Wait...

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   Miebakagh57posted 12 months ago

   What's preventing him using chemical weapon or a limited nuke? He's he not determined already? What else again? Or is he now afraid? Of what?

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   Miebakagh57posted 12 months ago

   Putin is not alagba toku(son of a gun). He's a politician.                                       He's not like those American or British politicians who are likely to tested the baptized of gun fire before saying farewell to arms! He don't have the heart like Hitler to threat nuke!

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      You are revealing that Putin has already won, in his mind. After all, you reason, he does not even see the need to use advanced weapons/weaponry. You conclude, he is not defeated and he is not a looser, etc.
      
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      You wonder who the undertaker is ...
      The undertaker is the one who takes in dead bodies.
      There are many undertakers. One for Russia. One for Ukraine.
      One for the refugees who die in Poland and other undertakers in the other countries where refugees of Ukraine end up dying.
      
      These undertakers will be taking in a lot of dead bodies and they will be hard at work. After all, they get paid for it. So, they do win.
      
      And they know that once a person is dead there are no more issues. There are no lives to worry, preserve or struggle about.
      They have pretty good work if you ask me. So, Castlepaloma is right. The undertakers win.
      No one else.
      
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      Unless of course, Russia becomes big and glorious once again and as prosperous as it wishes.  However, if Russia, instead, fails to bring prosperity and causes its people to loose joy of life and life itself, well yes, no one wins.
      
      So, it all depends on Putin's vision and whether or not it is realistic.
      Heaven help him and Russia, if it is not.
      But there is no way for us to know.
      It is an unanswerable question, if you ask me.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

   Now if Putin takes my advice, and creates a republic of united states based on the rule of fair laws and freedom, perhaps it will have all been worth it.
   Could such a thing take place? Why or why not?

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   Miebakagh57posted 12 months ago

   Oh you guys Kathryn and Castlepaloma has spin fun into the discourse...                                    No, you both are confusing the issue...                                              Likely, you both will soon not agree.                                       @Kathryn, what you think I assume about Putin may be true but is an instance of false positive, that's driving him to make noise at Ukraine. Have you ever come to the understanding that Put4n alone own at least half of the wealth in Russia? So how is he going to make things better for his people?                                       Two big smart birds perch on the web. One called Kath, one called Castle. Fly away Kate fly atay Castle, and come back later!

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Q. How is Putin going to make things better for his people?
      
      He owns half the wealth in Russia, only because he is president who the people elected a long time ago. He has essentially made himself king and the people have become weary of him. What he needs to do, he will not do. He needs to step aside and allow another person to be elected president.
      
      He, however, is interested in obtaining wealth from Russia's vast oil fields.
      
      He is also interested in obtaining wealth from the uranium in Ukraine. After all, Russia is behind the construction of many power plants in many countries.
      
      "On April 14, Turkey broke ground on its first nuclear power plant, a controversial $20 billion project in Akkuyu on the Mediterranean coast. Like Iran’s Bushehr plant, the only operational nuclear power reactor in the Middle East, the reactor at Akkuyu will be constructed by Russia. Moscow’s Middle Eastern sales drive doesn’t end there. It extends to recent nuclear cooperation agreements of varying degrees with Egypt, Jordan, Algeria and Saudi Arabia.
      
      With little notice, Russia is on the verge of becoming the nuclear Wal-Mart of the Middle East. But if across the region Russian nuclear exports come with many advantages, they also raise significant concerns for the international community, including on oversight and regulation ..."
      
      https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/art … ar-partner
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      FYI
      "The main use for uranium today is for fuel in nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants generate power by causing a controlled fission chain reaction using uranium. This produces a huge amount of energy from a small amount of uranium. One kilogram of uranium can produce as much energy as 1500 tons of coal."

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         Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

         You're welcome.

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   Miebakagh57posted 12 months ago

   Big birds, chip, chip, chip along. But remember to sing a song to my hearing.

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      There has to be song birds of love, beauty and optimism to balance out the support of destroyers.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

   Putin sees the big picture. He can't help it.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months ago

    Repeating:
    I believe Putin is interested in obtaining wealth from Russia's vast oil fields.
    
    He is also interested in obtaining wealth from the uranium in Ukraine. After all, Russia is behind the construction of many power plants in many countries.
    
    "On April 14, Turkey broke ground on its first nuclear power plant, a controversial $20 billion project in Akkuyu on the Mediterranean coast. Like Iran’s Bushehr plant, the only operational nuclear power reactor in the Middle East, the reactor at Akkuyu will be constructed by Russia. Moscow’s Middle Eastern sales drive doesn’t end there. It extends to recent nuclear cooperation agreements of varying degrees with Egypt, Jordan, Algeria and Saudi Arabia.
    
    With little notice, Russia is on the verge of becoming the nuclear Wal-Mart of the Middle East. But if across the region Russian nuclear exports come with many advantages, they also raise significant concerns for the international community, including on oversight and regulation ..."
    
    https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/art … ar-partner
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    FYI
    "The main use for uranium today is for fuel in nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants generate power by causing a controlled fission chain reaction using uranium. This produces a huge amount of energy from a small amount of uranium. One kilogram of uranium can produce as much energy as 1500 tons of coal."

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

       Alon Musk says we can replace nuclear plants with solar energy on the same land better.
       I concur by my solar energy tiny houses. I get more for less cost.
       Only political will stands in the way.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

       history is repeating itself
       
       https://hubpages.com/education/forum/30 … ld-war-iii

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