Are You Ready For This - Trump leads Biden, Harris in 2024 match-ups

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   Sharlee01posted 2 years ago

   
   
   "Former President Trump is leading President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 match-up, according to a new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey released exclusively to The Hill on Monday.
   
   If the 2024 presidential election were held right now, the poll finds Trump getting 47 percent support compared to 41 percent for Biden. Twelve percent of voters are undecided.
   
   Vice President Harris performs even worse in a hypothetical match-up with Trump. Forty-nine percent said they would choose Trump, while 38 percent said they would support Harris.
   
   The poll, while very early, portends trouble for Democrats in their 2024 effort to maintain control of the White House after taking it back less than two years ago. Trump has repeatedly hinted that he’s considering another bid for the presidency and remains deeply popular among the GOP’s conservative base.
   
   Even if Trump and Biden choose not to run in 2024, Democrats may face some challenges. The Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey found Harris leading Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a current favorite for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, by a scant 2-point margin.
   
   In that scenario, Harris takes 40 percent support to DeSantis’s 38 percent support.
   
   Mark Penn, the co-director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey, said that Trump’s early leads over both Harris and Biden speak less to the former president’s popularity and more to Biden and his administration’s current challenges with voters.
   
   The poll found Biden’s current approval at just 39 percent, while majorities of respondents said that both the U.S. economy and the country as a whole are on the wrong track.
   
   “I would not give a lot of weight to trial heats right now other than they reflect the weakness of Biden and the administration right now,” Penn said. “That Trump beats them both by a wide margin suggests most Republican nominees once known fully by the public would beat them unless they are able to pivot out of the current nadir in their numbers.”
   
   Trump remains the favorite for the 2024 GOP nod, with 59 percent of Republican voters saying they would support him should he take another shot at the White House. Former Vice President Mike Pence and DeSantis are statistically tied for second place, garnering 11 percent and 10 percent support, respectively.
   
   In the event that Trump doesn’t run again, however, DeSantis supplants Pence as the favorite. In that scenario, 28 percent of Republican voters say they would back DeSantis, while 24 percent say they would support Pence." Source ---  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6 … 4-matchups
   
   The current poll shows Trump 6 points ahead of Biden, and he has not committed to running.  So, so many of our threads here on HP's political forum end up discussing Trump  --- let's talk Trump.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I think everybody including Trump are afraid to jinx-it.
      
      MY crystal ball shows a certain scenario, but I dare not reveal it.

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         Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         This would be, in my view, The worst possible scenario. But just as disappointing, I currently see no one in either party with a reasonable platform I could get behind.  The culture wars and just plain old political posturing is nonsense to me but it seems to be grabbing the attention of those who are motivated by the "outrage industry" 
         I think the time is ripe for a third party. It may break up polarization and the extremism we currently have.
         I'm really thinking that Mr Trump may run under his own party. I don't think his ideology was ever strongly aligned with Republicans anyway.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Our two party system is what works. It is an interesting idea you have, but history and human nature show it has never worked. (Here, in US.)

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               In fact, to do such a thing would allow Biden to win again.Trump is smarter than THAT!

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         Ken Burgessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I think when you look at foreign media's take on Biden you get a better idea of where things sit.
         
         India:
         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPvOmzqkA6M
         
         Australia:
         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUe9F4biPQ
         
         China:
         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVFvd7gaM3k
         
         I just grabbed some available options, but you get the point.

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   wildernessposted 2 years ago

   At this point I rather expect our next President to be Donald Trump.  Can't say I'm happy about it, but Democrats have moved so far left, and have so many policies that are complete failures, that I expect it to happen.
   
   I actually expect to see the country as a whole moving to the right, by quite a bit, requiring the Democrat party to rethink their whole program.  Certainly inflation, the border mess and energy prices are going to be laid at their feet and the country just will not put up with these things that directly and negatively impact their lives so much.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      - strange that his name is TRUMP.
      He will be able to get back in and trump the status quo, the deep state and our oligarchs. Finally, the lies and the stupidity of nonsensical policies will be put to rest. The majority are being educated by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris themselves. The majority, will finally be on board with President Trump after witnessing the results of current events/people. I just hope the vote will be fair and not stolen.
      
      Who does not agree?
      

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      GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I hope you are wrong about the Trump part, (he is too polarizing), but the rest seems plausible.
      
      Another reason for that shift might be Pres. Biden during the rest of his term. I am not bashing him, but his recent two weeks of speaking appearances have me wondering. His speech has become less clear, not slurring, but a noticeable change. However, he has had a pretty full plate since the Ukraine war started so maybe it's just fatigue.
      
      I don't know if I could keep up under the same circumstances, so I am just mentioning it as a possible real problem for the Democrats if the Biden-bashers are right and he can't complete his term, (or does so by proxy).
      
      GA

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         Ken Burgessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         It will be Trump, or a Son of Trump, or DeSantis.
         
         I had really hoped (and still do) that it wouldn't be.  That there would be a more moderate option.
         
         In another thread I made note of what is going on in Germany and the UK, but I could have brought up China and France and it would have been just as bad... or worse.
         
         What is happening hasn't been seen since pre-WWII days.
         
         If... When it reaches America and people wake up to see food prices go up by 50% overnight, when they see gas prices go up $2.00 overnight, Biden is done... Harris would do even worse as she is a complete nut that has no ability to speak publicly with any intelligence at all.
         
         What I fear... but what I expect... is Trump, or his selected protege, to roar into power... totally eviscerating the Democrats who will take the full blame for the economic tsunami that is going to come crashing in.

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