Political Yuck Of The Day

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  1. Sharlee01 profile image84
    Sharlee01posted 2 years ago

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    Fetterman cast the lone vote in several failed bids to free men convicted in first-degree murder.

    Fetterman cast lone vote in failed bid to free man convicted of murdering woman with scissors; DA speaks out
    Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. and Democratic Senate candidate John Fetterman last year cast the lone vote in a failed bid to commute the sentence of a man convicted of murdering a woman with a pair of scissors.

    Fetterman cast lone vote in failed bid to free man convicted in first-degree murder of high schooler --- beaten with a bat then shoot in the back.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fetter … h-schooler

    Fetterman voted to release many violent murders such as:
    Raymond Johnson, who refers to himself as “a son of the devil,” who violently murdered a man and disposed of his body.
    Charles Goldblum, who stabbed a man 26 times with garden shears, yet Fetterman said that he was “happy” to release him.
    https://gop.com/research/inmates-for-fetterman-rsr/

    Do we really need this guy in Congress?

    1. Fayetteville Faye profile image61
      Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The commutation in this case was supported by both prosecutors and corrections officers at the time.
      His release was supported by the state's Department of Corrections and the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office.
      I think these commutation cases are a lot more complex and nuanced than people understand. We don't know the details and all Dr Oz is doing his campaigning on fear rather than putting up his own agenda.

    2. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      IS this a good guy?
      REALLY??????????

  2. Sharlee01 profile image84
    Sharlee01posted 2 years ago

    All I understood is that this guy and his friend beat an 18 year old friend with a bat, before shooting him.  He belongs in jail. I prefer murderers be kept in jail.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      "I think these commutation cases are a lot more complex and nuanced than people understand. We don't know the details."

      Oh, so subtle. What about the victim? Who cares about the one murdered?
      Did he deserve to be murdered? Did this family need to go through such a loss?

      ... or maybe he and they did, on some level we have not heard about.
      But in the eyes of Jesus, you turn the other cheek. You do not take matters of justice into your own hands.

      Justice would be that this eighteen year old was not murdered.

      ~ but then some on the left are fine with murder. Just ask the babies in heaven which were denied their bodies. Which were told, "No, you may not come here. You are completely innocent, you did nothing wrong, you do not deserve death, but the life that began at conception when you felt welcomed and loved, if for only a split second, is to be obliterated, regardless of the pain you will feel, both psychologically and physically.

      No, some are so callous about murder. Some are Evil ...
      which is livE spelled backwards.

      1. Fayetteville Faye profile image61
        Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        It's a practical matter that is one way of addressing overcrowded prisons and huge costs to incarcerate someone for life. Particularly when some individuals are sentenced very early in their own life.
        The cases of the votes for commutation by Mr Fetterman were for individuals in their 70's and had spent 50 years or more in jail. People who were deemed as no longer a threat to society by our legal and health professionals. 
        Given those circumstances, you don't believe these people could be maintained in a more cost effective manner through community programs? A halfway house? Monitoring?

        I've read the stories of some of the individuals that the state of Pennsylvania considered commutation and the these folks seemed to make some dramatic transformations. 
        If you'd like to view this through a religious lense, God had much to say about forgiveness, judgement and imprisonment. It seems that very often folks on the right bring out religion but selectively apply it to suit their need.

        But really, what percentage of our country's prison population is very elderly? And can the enormous cost of housing them be better spent on our police forces or prevention programs?

        1. abwilliams profile image73
          abwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          I will say this, this country needs to turn back to God and then we wouldn't be in these predicaments of not enough space for the many bad guys!
          I've heard a lot from the Dems about getting to the root of certain problems.
          This is definitely a root problem.

          1. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            What is needed is more law & order officials who will institute harsher penalties for crimes even the death penalty for more egregious crimes.  We need people who are intolerant of liberal crime policies that only harm. Bring more law & order people into governmental office.   Sliwa would have been a great New York mayor but the %^$^^ elected Smooth,Jiving Eric Adams.

        2. GA Anderson profile image85
          GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Without tying this to the Fetterman issue, that is a thought that should be in most discussions about sentence commutations—especially when served time is in the ranges you mentioned, (50 tears or more).

          GA

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    He even looks like someone who would do what he has done:
    Pardon fellow BAD GUYS!

    I bet every dog barks at his very presence!

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Can you imagine a dog, say a nice golden retriever, running up to him and wagging his tail?

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    What should we do about dogs who profile?

  6. abwilliams profile image73
    abwilliamsposted 2 years ago

    Yuck is right, this is madness! Any which way some might try to spin it...it is still madness!
    This guy is something else and his mind is somewhere else, the people who profess to love him, need to let him know that he is at end of his career path and it is time to go home now.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      All the dogs in town need to go and bark their heads off at him.

  7. abwilliams profile image73
    abwilliamsposted 2 years ago

    Sliwa would have been perfect for the job, but he had the wrong letter following his name. Sad but true!

    1. Fayetteville Faye profile image61
      Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      People in general need to stop looking  at simply the R or the D and look at platform, policy positions and track record.  Today's candidates think we are too stupid for that. Politicians have methodically reduced citizens down to mindless tribal warriors.  You have a built-in base regardless of which party you align yourself with and sadly regardless if you have any business running for office (Herschel Walker)

      1. abwilliams profile image73
        abwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Agreed, Silwa should not have been dismissed, simply because an (R) follows his name.

      2. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        I really don't care what party a candidate belongs to.  The question is that can h/she can the job at hand.   If the person is capable of doing the job, vote for him/her regardless of political affiliation.  You are right Faye, some many people are mindless automatons.

    2. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      When I heard Adams was running for mayor, I said oh oh, another nothingburger.  He seemed to be completely ineffectual to say the least.  Sliwa, au contraire, was a no-nonsense man who would enforce law & order.   People may criticize Giuliani but he cleaned up New York.  Now Adams has reduced New York to a criminalized, cesspool jungle.   Adams is just all so-called swag & talk, no action.  Well, %^&% voted for the $%$#.

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image82
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pi … bigpicture


    So. what if we simplify the matter?
    Lets take a large area of wild land. Build a wall or fence completely around it. Provide such an enclosure in every city, in every state. The prison yards will have nothing. No water, no food, no shelter. The convicted would be required to go to the yard and stay for as long as they want to stay or can handle staying. Of course, they will not want to stay long. (Maybe three days to a week or less.)

    Then, they have the opportunity to re-enter society with an unblemished record. Once they swear a change of mind and attitude to a judge indicating, "I'll be good, I am sorry for my crime, I will never do it again," they are allowed to leave the cold desolate yard with no criminal record. They will be able to find employment and carry on as though nothing happened. If they are convicted again, same thing.

    Eventually, each and every law breaker and criminal will realize they really do not want to go to "the yard" ever again and will stop committing crimes.

    Right?

    ... wondering.

  9. Valeant profile image76
    Valeantposted 2 years ago

    Do. Your. Own. Research.  More Fox News garbage that twists the truth that we have to read on this site.  Why can't we leave the fabrications on their site?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news … -be-freed/

  10. Sharlee01 profile image84
    Sharlee01posted 2 years ago

    BIG YUCK!

    "My name is Joe Biden. I’m Dr. Jill Biden’s husband. I eat Jeni’s ice cream — chocolate chip. I came down because I heard there was chocolate chip ice cream. By the way, I have a whole refrigerator full upstairs. You think I’m kidding? I’m not,"

    His comedy goes on, and on ---  Please read the transcript if interested in his statement in regard to the actual school shooting.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … ss-summit/

    In my view,  Biden treated this matter very poorly, to put it mildly.

    1. Coltonlarsen1975 profile image61
      Coltonlarsen1975posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      He wasn't making a statement to address the shooting. He was apparently addressing a women's small business summit.  He was making an opening statement and then transitioned to the shooting.  It's not as if he were put on camera to address the shooting specifically and then opened with an ice cream statement.  This is getting very misconstrued by right wing media.
      The inaction by Republicans to address gun safety is WAY more offensive to me.
        They may as well just say they don't care and a rep from Tennessee pretty much said just that.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image84
        Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Whatever.

        1. Valeant profile image76
          Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Context matters.  And what the far-right media you follow just did is to leave out much needed context to trigger your outrage.  It's pretty dishonest.  And their viewers continue to fall for it.  Even when they get proven in court to pretty much be creating these distortions and openly lying at times.

          And then those followers run off to their other sites and repost their complete distortions, which just makes them look pretty foolish when the actual timelines or full context is given to them. 

          Instead of saying, oh, my bad.  They double down on their hatred that is borne of these distortions.  The way the right gets programmed like this is part of why much of the country sees them as a danger.  Their media plays to their anger and hatred, and there are real world violent repercussions happening from that programming - such as January 6.  We're all waiting for those viewers to wise up, but it's just not happening.

 
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