Is this the illegal China and Biden family financial connection?

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  1. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 2 years ago

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    The House Oversight Committee has asked Hunter Biden’s business associate Rob Walker testify before the panel, following information from subpoenaed financial documents revealing that he transferred more than $1 million to members of the Biden family after receiving a $3 million wire from a Chinese energy company in 2017.

    Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., wrote to Walker on Friday to say he has emerged as a "critical witness" in the panel's investigation. Comer asked Walker to appear for a transcribed interview before the committee, and that he contact committee staff to schedule that interview by March 24.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house- … den-family

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    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      That sounds like a good place to start. Subpoenaed bank documents showing financial documents revealing that this fellow Walker transferred more than $1 million to members of the Biden family after receiving a $3 million wire from a Chinese energy company in 2017.

      It is nice to see the article did mention some actual names of what Biden family members received funds and how much.  I would guess the money transfers would be well-documented with dates, and names.

      I wonder if Walker will cooperate.
      I have done a lot of reading, on this topic. It would appear the FBI, as well as Congress, have many bank documents in their possession in regard to Hunter and his business dealings. "Notably, the Justice Department and FBI have not disputed the accuracy of the allegations that I have made public since May 31, 2022. The Justice Department’s and FBI’s continued silence on these matters is deafening and further erodes their credibility. Simply put, enough is enough – the Justice Department and FBI must come clean to Congress and the American people with respect to the steps they have taken, or failed to take, relating to the Hunter Biden investigation,” Grassley wrote in a letter to FBI and Justice Department leadership as well as the Delaware U.S. attorney."

      https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/ne … rangements

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      1. Readmikenow profile image96
        Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Shar,

        There was far less information about President Donald Trump and Russia. The left even made up things about President Donald Trump and Russia because they had nothing.

        NOW, there is strong evidence of biden's connection to the Chinese, and boy, does the left rationalize it and ignore it.

        What a bunch of hypocrites.

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        1. Sharlee01 profile image87
          Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          I think congress will keep going through bank records, and follow the money. This is as a rule how crooks get caught.  In my view, they will nab the Biden family by making money from countries that are our adversaries.  The Bidens just are not too bright, in my view.

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          1. Valeant profile image75
            Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            In order to prove what you are alleging is a crime, you would need to point to policy decisions Joe Biden was able to make that would have helped China, all while Vice President.  Otherwise, what you have is Biden family members trading on the Biden name, which is not illegal.

            Meanwhile, you have Kushner who, as an actual government official, asks Qatar for funding, does not get it, and then publicly backs a blockade against Qatar until they cave and give him the funding he needed.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSvTIjbcVbs&t=400s

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          2. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
            Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah, if you are smart enough not to get caught, it's OK, right?

            "During their father’s tenure as president, Don Jr. and Eric have repeatedly managed to cash in on their newfound positions of political privilege in their business dealings. So, too, have their sister Ivanka and brother-in-law Jared Kushner, both of whom hold senior positions in the administration and whose companies and investment portfolios netted them anywhere between $29 million and $135 million last year, per their financial disclosure forms. " - GQ

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    2. abwilliams profile image69
      abwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Mike what are you doing bringing this up? Don't you know it's all about destroy Trump 24-7. Get with the program, time to fall in line with the other minions.

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  2. Valeant profile image75
    Valeantposted 2 years ago

    And yet, none of those family names is one Joseph R. Biden.  For a party that claims to be free market, they sure do care a lot about a bunch of people that have never held a post in government and how much they are able to make because they have the same last name as someone who does. 

    And odd how they only investigate the opposing party when the same conduct is just as blatant from their own party.

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  3. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 2 years ago

    Even CNN agrees it doesn't look good for biden.

    CNN’s Burnett admits that evidence of Chinese funneling money to Biden family ‘doesn’t look good’

    CNN anchor Erin Burnett admitted that revelations showing members of the Biden family received over a million dollars from accounts linked to Hunter Biden’s Chinese business associates certainly don’t "look good" for the embattled Hunter Biden and his family as they face government investigations into their alleged corruption.

    During an episode of CNN’s "Erin Burnett OutFront" the host brought up subpoenaed financial records obtained by the House Oversight Committee showing that money from Joe Biden’s son was funneled to several members of the Biden family, including James Biden, and Beau Biden’s widow.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-burn … -look-good

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  4. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 2 years ago

    Things in this realm are getting interesting.

    WASHINGTON—Today, the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability issued a memorandum revealing new evidence resulting from the investigation into the Biden family’s influence peddling and business schemes. Subpoenaed financial records show that from 2015 to 2017, Biden family members – Hunter Biden, James Biden, Hallie Biden, and an unknown “Biden” – and their companies collectively received $1.3 million in payments from accounts related to Rob Walker, a Biden family associate.

    Notably, on March 1, 2017, less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office, State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to Rob Walker’s company. The next day, the company wired $1,065,000 to a company associated with James Gilliar, another Biden family associate. Afterwards, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,000 in payments over a three-month period in different bank accounts. From the bank records, it appears that the Biden family received approximately one-third of the money obtained from the China wire.

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/com … %EF%BF%BC/

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  5. Valeant profile image75
    Valeantposted 2 years ago

    So when Joe Biden was not in office, some members of his family were doing business in China.

    What's the crime exactly?  I keep asking.

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    1. Readmikenow profile image96
      Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      biden was vice president from 2009 to 2017.  The records they are looking at are from 2015 to 2017.  So, it is highly possible for China to have been attempting to influence or have influenced biden through his family during those years.  That is quite a bid of money coming from a foreign source to various members of one politically well-connected vice president biden family.

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      1. Valeant profile image75
        Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        No more than the billions Kushner got from Saudi Arabia right after leaving office or from the Qataris while actually serving in office.

        But again, I ask, What is the crime?  What policy changes did Biden make to help China as Vice President?  And is it illegal for members of an elected office holder to do business with foreign entities while their family member serves in office?

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        1. Readmikenow profile image96
          Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          "The Committee is concerned about the national security implications of a President’s or Vice President’s immediate family members receiving millions of dollars from foreign nationals or companies without any oversight. Current financial disclosure laws and regulations do not
          require non-dependent family members to provide any information to the public."

          https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ … .16.23.pdf

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          1. Valeant profile image75
            Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            So they readily admit that they are investigating something that current law does not apply to then.  In essence, they are harassing Biden's family just because they have the majority.

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            1. wilderness profile image88
              wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              They learned quickly, didn't they?  Wonder if we'll see more impeachments over nothing but politics or if that will be too much for Republicans to participate in.

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              1. Valeant profile image75
                Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Yeah, because blackmailing another country to fabricate an investigation is totally legal, just as trying to defraud the United States with made up electors and election fraud is for the GOP and their supporters.

                The difference being that instead of having some spineless GOP Senators letting Trump off the hook, the DOJ and DA in Georgia look poised to induct Trump for his crimes.

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            2. Readmikenow profile image96
              Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              "provide any information to the public"

              This only means there are no public disclosure requirements. There are still national security interest concerns. It needs to be determined if the million dollars given to the biden family was intended to influence.  What exactly did the family members do for this money?

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              1. Valeant profile image75
                Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                I think those of us on the left would have no problem getting behind that thought if we believed it to be genuine.  However, when the right has spent the last six years trying to ignore and obstruct the same kinds of investigations into a man that a hostile foreign government assisted in gaining the Presidency; whose daughter was doing business in the same country as the Bidens - while working in the government; and whose son has received investments from two middle eastern countries both while working in and just after leaving a government post where he had direct involvement in the middle east.

                When the concerns are just partisan, they ring hollow and just appear to be political attacks.

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                1. Readmikenow profile image96
                  Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Everything you've stated is wrong.

                  "a man that a hostile foreign government assisted in gaining the Presidency;"

                  Ever hear of the Mueller Report?

                  Ho hum.

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                  1. Valeant profile image75
                    Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                    Everything I said is backed by fact.  Ever hear of the bipartisan Senate Report on Russian Election Interference that confirmed that Manafort and Gates were actively colluding with a known member of Russian intelligence?  Of course you haven't - it would blow up any disbelief that you might have that Russia and the Trump Campaign were working together in 2016.

                    Here, here's a link (not that I think you will read about the detailed meetings between Manafort, Gates, and Kilimnik - instead choosing to continue to parrot false statements that Russia did not interfere to help Trump win):  https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit … olume5.pdf

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  6. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago

    Well said.

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  7. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago

    "Ho hum." because it wasn't what you wanted to hear. Didn't make it not true. Consequences sometime take some time, but they come eventually.

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  8. Valeant profile image75
    Valeantposted 2 years ago

    The left - go ahead and investigate the issue, just treat it the same on both sides of the aisle.
    The right - if anyone thinks Trump did anything wrong they must hate him or be out to get him.

    Give us a break.

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    1. wilderness profile image88
      wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I haven't seen the left try to impeach Biden as a method of removing him from the political scene...

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      1. Valeant profile image75
        Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Nice attempt to shift the goal posts by changing the words that were used.  Pretty typical.

        But I'll play along.  Which country did Biden try to blackmail to get a fake investigation into Trump?  When did Biden organize his supporters to come to the Capitol, rile them up, and then send them down to Congress (without telling Capitol Police that was his plan) at the very moment they were certifying the election that would end his presidency - which ended in a violent insurrection?  When did Biden do those things?

        Yeah, more far-right false equivalencies.

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        1. wilderness profile image88
          wildernessposted 24 months agoin reply to this

          Given that both of the faux impeachment efforts failed to produce any results (beyond lockstep Democrats voting for them), I have to conclude that the left doesn't bother to use fact or reality in their efforts to impeach Trump.  Why would you expect them to suddenly require truth to do the same to Biden?

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          1. Valeant profile image75
            Valeantposted 24 months agoin reply to this

            Considering the real impeachments put on full display a Republican party that puts party over the laws of the country, something that cost them the White House, Senate and House in 2020, your conclusion that no results were produced is simply your own warped view on the topic.  When a Republican party can dismiss the facts and realities of those two clear cases of lawlessness, they do not deserve to hold power - a conclusion many arrived at and acted on at the voting booth.

            But it's pretty common for someone from the far-right to deny basic truths.  We see it all the time in these threads.

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            1. wilderness profile image88
              wildernessposted 24 months agoin reply to this

              Yes, they were put on full display - a political dog and pony media production by Democrats rather than a serious legal matter to be resolved.

              Likewise, you can say that those media shows (they were absolutely created by and for media) cost the white house, but it isn't true.  What cost the White House was 4 years of unrelenting negative media coupled with what was the biggest drive in history to enlist more Democrat votes. Between the two it worked - the constant barrage of hate from MSM helped the Democrat turnout tremendously even as it split the country in half.

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              1. Valeant profile image75
                Valeantposted 24 months agoin reply to this

                Impeachment is the legal remedy for a sitting president who the DOJ has ruled an opinion on that they cannot indict.  Most are aware of this, some apparently not, it would seem.

                And we can add one more to the pile that refuses to deny any of the failures of their chosen candidate, instead falling back on the blame the media angle.

                Or that showing a clear blackmail attempt or a clear defrauding of the United States that led to a violent insurrection were crimes worthy of impeachment (to everyone but the reps who rely on the defendant's base of voters - which means they were owned before the trial even started).  Let alone that those members of the jury were conspiring with the defense during the trials to help with the presentation.  In what fair trial does that actually happen?  Don't bother answering, it doesn't.  The only faux things about those impeachments were in the actions of the GOP.

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                1. wilderness profile image88
                  wildernessposted 24 months agoin reply to this

                  "Impeachment is the legal remedy for a sitting president who the DOJ has ruled an opinion on that they cannot indict."

                  This is patently false.  The DOJ has nothing to do with an impeachment by the House.  It IS the legal remedy for a sitting president that is failing at their job; it was truly sad that the left chose to make it a remedy for the people electing someone they didn't like. 

                  Don't forget - impeachment is a "trial".  And the "jury" (the Senate) found that the "prosecution"  (House Democrats) utterly failed to make their case.  This is the same thing you are doing yourself; failing utterly to make your case.  Saying, for instance, that Trump intended an "insurrection" as never been proven true.  Instead, the very words you claim indicate his guilt were the exact opposite of your claim.

                  But - we will never agree on these things for I look at facts and you look at what you want to be true, declaring it therefore true because you wish it were.  Best we drop this line of discussion for we cannot get together with that kind of difference in our base reasoning.

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                  1. Valeant profile image75
                    Valeantposted 24 months agoin reply to this

                    My God, so many falsehoods in that post.  Why I continue to engage you when the content is so outlandish is beyond me.  This will likely be my last response.

                    You clearly could not process that when a president commits crimes, the DOJ has issued an opinion that they cannot indict.  Therefore, it is upon Congress to impeach.  The explanation I was making about how a President is held accountable for crimes went right by you.

                    And the literal definition of impeachment is - Congress charges and then tries an official of the federal government for “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”  Not when a president is 'failing at their job.'  Unreal that you cannot even understand the basics of the Constitution.

                    Yes, the impeachment is tried in the Senate.  But it is simply our differing opinions as to why the Senate did not convict.  You believe they did not make their case and I believe that the Senators were beholden to Trump's base. 

                    Next, you accuse me of saying that Trump intended an insurrection.  Not even close to what I wrote.  You twist words to mean whatever weird thought pops into your head. 

                    All while claiming that you look at facts.  First there is a misrepresentation of the purpose of an impeachment and then a fabrication of written words to make a false accusation.  Let alone, just a few days ago, you got caught posting complete misinformation about Denver ordinances.  Please, let's avoid claiming to be the master of facts when so many posts are so full of misinformation and ridiculous distortions.

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  9. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 years ago

    "To argue my feelings would be a lost cause." No argument.

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    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 24 months agoin reply to this

      I have lost interest in the argument. We all smack into one another over and over again, and there can be no middle. I feel to keep arguing only deepens the great divide.

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  10. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 24 months ago

    I think you forget that it was the Right who elevated "Whataboutism" to an art form. "Whenever the left looses an argument" should be restated as "Whenever I don't agree with the left ) We invoke Trump because there is a wealth of misdeeds by him to invoke.

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    1. wilderness profile image88
      wildernessposted 24 months agoin reply to this

      "We invoke Trump because there is a wealth of misdeeds by him to invoke."

      A far more accurate statement would be "We invoke Trump because <we claim, without convictions> there is a wealth of misdeeds by him to invoke".

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  11. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 24 months ago

    "Don't forget - impeachment is a "trial".  And the "jury" (the Senate) found that the "prosecution"  (House Democrats) utterly failed to make their case. "  The Democrats courageously conducted a futile mission. Republicans - except for one courageous Senator - had no intention of considering the facts of the case. It's just like them crying that the Jan. 6 committee is partisan when they refused to fill the offered seats.

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    1. Readmikenow profile image96
      Readmikenowposted 24 months agoin reply to this

      "had no intention of considering the facts of the case"

      That's what is known as a statement based on speculation and not facts.

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      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
        Kathleen Cochranposted 24 months agoin reply to this

        You are exactly right. But it is what is known as being intuitively obvious to the casual observer.

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        1. Readmikenow profile image96
          Readmikenowposted 24 months agoin reply to this

          That is what is known as a misnomer.

          Nothing is "intuitively obvious to the casual observer"

          It all comes down to an opinion and nothing more.

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  12. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 24 months ago

    Some things are. I will concede, not to you.

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