Biden Promise To Veto Bill To Protection of Women and Girls in Sports

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  1. Sharlee01 profile image87
    Sharlee01posted 17 months ago

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    "Riley Gaines, a former All-American swimmer from the University of Kentucky, didn't hold back when reacting to President Biden's promise to veto a bill that would prevent biological males from participating in women's sports.

    Speaking with Fox News Digital on Monday just hours after the White House released a statement slamming the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, or H.R. 734, Gaines said Biden's veto promise was evidence he was putting a "radical minority" ahead of women across the country.

    "The President has declared that science, truth, and common sense no longer matter. In opposing this bill, President Biden is catering to a radical minority at the expense of women, who are 51% of the population," Gaines said.

    "Equal opportunity, privacy, and safety in our sports shouldn’t be controversial. The women who once advocated for Title IX should be outraged as this goes against everything they fought for. Female athletes of all ages, levels, and sports deserve better," she added.

    H.R. 734 has not yet been passed by Congress but is expected to come to a vote on the floor of the House of Representatives sometime this week.

    In a statement, the White House said it "strongly opposes" the bill on the grounds that it would "deny access to sports for many families by establishing an absolute ban on transgender students."

    It went on to call the bill "discriminatory," claimed such a law was "unnecessary," and that it "hurts families and students."

    As part of the bill, educational institutions that receive Title IX funding from the federal government would not be allowed to "permit a person whose sex is male to participate in an athletic program or activity that is designed for women or girls."

    The bill says that the sex of an athlete would be recognized only by their "reproductive biology and genetics at birth." The legislation would allow transgender female athletes to train or practice in a girls’ athletic program, but only if no biological female athlete is deprived of a roster spot.

    Democrats have made it clear that most or all of them will oppose the bill on the floor. The House Education and Workforce Committee approved the legislation in a 25-17 vote — every Republican voted for it, and only Democrats voted against it.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/riley- … l-minority

    One question ---   Why have women's sports at all if men can compete?

    Bears repeating --  "The President has declared that science, truth, and common sense no longer matter. In opposing this bill, President Biden is catering to a radical minority at the expense of women, who are 51% of the population,"

    Twitter views
    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1648372089936658444

    My view in one word --- sickening.

    1. Ken Burgess profile image70
      Ken Burgessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      I have to admit, women have particularly tough choices these days when deciding who to vote for.

      One the one hand, the worst thing politically that ever happened to the Republicans in the last 20 years was the reversal of Roe vs Wade.

      Regardless of where you stand on the abortion argument, it marshalled many women against Republicans for that alone.

      On the other hand, Democrats and Biden are pushing pretty drastic change of their own with EO after EO:

      Executive Order on Advancing Equality for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and Intersex Individuals

      Executive Order on Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation

      Executive Order On Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities [see the above EOs] Through the Federal Government

      Executive Order on Further Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities Through the Federal Government [because the first one wasn't enough]

      Unfortunately these EOs are flying under the radar, many do not know the impact these and other EOs will have down the road... IMO it essentially puts the biggest minority at the top of the list... a new system based not on merit or ability, but on how many boxes you can check

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        Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        That's an easy choice...give LGBTQ folks the same rights as the rest of us or force women to carry a non viable fetus to term?  NO BRAINER

      2. Sharlee01 profile image87
        Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

        I see your point, Ken, that is why it is important to vote this bunch out. However,  that might not happen, I mean it is easy to see much of common sense has been tossed out the window. Hey, we get what we ask for, do we not?

        I am so sick of hearing about Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation. I am tolerant, and my feelings are live and let live.   My religion comes into play when it comes to sexual orientation/ homosexuality.

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          Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          "I am so sick of hearing about Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation "

          Seem to be the main platform of the GOP. They push it continually.  That and accomplishing a nationwide abortion ban.  Oh and committees.  No real ideas. Out of touch with what Americans find important.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image87
            Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

            I very straightforwardly shared my view --- I don't have anything to add. I certainly have no interest to discuss abortion on this thread.

            Again --- I am so sick of hearing about Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation. I am tolerant, and my feelings are live and let live.   My religion comes into play when it comes to sexual orientation/ homosexuality.

            1. profile image56
              Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              Live and let live would be a great mantra for Republicans about now. Who aren't they trying to persecute these days?

              1. Sharlee01 profile image87
                Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

                As I said my religious values keep me out of discussing this subject, as a rule.   I respect all human beings period.  I speak as an individual.

            2. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
              Kathleen Cochranposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              My religious beliefs come to mind also. They tell me God loves everyone - and I should too.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image87
                Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

                Yes, and I respect your view/sentiment.  However, in the case of changing gender, and homosexuality I have very strong feelings due to my religious teachings. I feel I really have no right to discuss the issue -- due to respect that many feel very differently than I do. I don't think it fair or kind for me to in any respect push my views on this subject. I have no need to make an attempt to push my religious beliefs on others 

                I too feel everyone is worthy of love, and being treated with respect and kindness.  That's one reason I don't push my religious views on others.  I have no right to...

  2. Miebakagh57 profile image72
    Miebakagh57posted 17 months ago

    This can be general.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      It seems as if women will back away from competitive sports due to men being able to compete. It appears women are losing ground in their fight for equality.  I mean now they could lose the right to compete against women only. Oh well, times are changing. Some of us are being disregarded, in this case, in my view, that would be women.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
        Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Q.  Does a male have physical advantages over a female?

        A. Yes
        B. No

        1. Sharlee01 profile image87
          Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

          I would think some would. Yes.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
            Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            Yes. This is the truth of the matter. It is nature.

            The males who practice to compete develop more strength than a female.

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              Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              What are you even talking about? The 5th grade soccer team?  The NCAA already has their own rules governing trans individuals. What do you think you're adding ? If abortion can be kicked back to the states than this should be also.

            2. Miebakagh57 profile image72
              Miebakagh57posted 17 months agoin reply to this

              Exactly true.

        2. Sharlee01 profile image87
          Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, once they meet puberty.

      2. Miebakagh57 profile image72
        Miebakagh57posted 17 months agoin reply to this

        I've seen a female biological wretler wrest with a male counterpart.                                        In the basic sport events, biological male swimmers compete with fellow males, and not with male-females.                                             Yes, and oddly, a friendly football match between civil Commissions male and females, have I seen, some 40 years ago, in my country. But not nowadays.                                      Generally, it's not fair that trans-gender female males competed with the biological females.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Do you Agree or disagree?
    Women should have the right to compete against women only.

    A. Yes
    B.  No

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Yes I agree

    2. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, I agree they should have that right,

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Do you agree or disagree?
    Trans-people should have the right to compete with transpeople only.

    A. Yes
    B.  No

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      That would be ideal...

      1. profile image56
        Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Why?

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          The word "ideal" provides the answer.

      2. wilderness profile image94
        wildernessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        No - ideal with be that males compete with males and females with females.  Without denying what they are or trying to pretend they are what they are not.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          Do you agree or disagree?
          Trans-people should have the right to compete with transpeople only.

          A. Yes
          B.  No

          Sharlee chose:
          A. Yes,
          "Transpeople competing with transpeople would be the ideal."
          Do you agree?

          After all, we cannot deny their existence at this point.

        2. Sharlee01 profile image87
          Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

          Positively agree...

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Do you agree or disagree?
    Men should have the right to compete with men only.
    A. Yes
    B. No

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Sounds right o me.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
        Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Me too.

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Trans-people who have half-way transitioned should have the right to compete with any group of persons which has half-way transitioned. 

    A. Yes
    B. No

    Trans-people who have fully transitioned should have the right to compete with any group of persons which has fully transitioned.

    A. Yes
    B. No.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Too confusing for me --- LOL

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
        Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Someone just commented that there are very few of these people in the population ... but they are being encouraged here, there and everywhere!
        Eventually, there very well may be a situation where you could have a whole team of either of these groups!

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          Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          How, specifically, and I mean with back up data, are they being encouraged?  I'm thinking that these are just people. Everyday people who want to live their lives with the same rights as you.  They just want to live.

          1. wilderness profile image94
            wildernessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            They already have the same rights; the right to compete against the same sex in sporting events.

            1. profile image56
              Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              How is this hurting anyone? Especially since the NCAA has its own rules .

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                Where there are rules, we have relief.

                What are the rules you are referring to??

                1. profile image56
                  Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  Look it up. You have Google.

            2. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
              Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              They want the right to compete against the opposite sex.

              1. profile image56
                Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                Don't think they really care. You're talking about someone who identifies as a particular gender and want to play a sport as that gender.

                Maybe just for the same reason anyone wants to play a sport...like enjoyment ?  But ok, you go on and vilify. Make more of it. Make it a conspiracy.  That's what you folks do best isnt it?

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  History reveals a lot.

                  Read about the Fall of Rome and the days before Jesus.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    Do you want the fall of America?
                    Do you want to preserve the freedom and decency of a civilized democratic republic with morals and boundaries and
                    human rights given by God?

                2. wilderness profile image94
                  wildernessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  No - the discussion is about someone who is a particular sex and wishes to play a sport as the other sext.

                  Perceived or claimed gender has nothing to do with it; the physical differences in the sexes do.

            3. Sharlee01 profile image87
              Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

              True...

              1. profile image56
                Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                Ok so crush the self esteem of the 12 year old who identifies as female and wants to play on the school
                recreational play ground league. Really??? Ok
                Tell me more about your stellar morals and family values. These views are so limited.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image70
                  Ken Burgessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  It is much better to crush the self esteem and self worth of all those girls who cannot compete with boys, especially after 12 years old.

                  I am right there with you.  This is a great way for men to reclaim their dominance in all things, as men identifying as women, the world is theirs, the sky is the limit... not only are they protected as one of the most discriminated against minorities, but they get to destroy girls and women in the process.

                  1. profile image56
                    Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    We're talking about play ground sports here. Not  sports world dominance.  You're making more of this than what it is. Most kids don't  give a crap about sports or competitiveness beyond their first team experience. They aren't all bound for the Olympics or the NCAA

        2. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          Perhaps they should wait for that day to compete.

          1. profile image56
            Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            Why? Why does it matter? You're talking about sport. Inconsequential sport at low levels with people who will never move to be to more competitive or to professional sport like 99.9 % out there.  Who cares??  maybe just let a kid enjoy sport? Seems like that to much to ask of mean spirited conservatives.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
              Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              sports enthusiasts understand.

              1. profile image56
                Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                Lol of the middle school soccer team?

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  It all matters.
                  It all matters.

                  1. profile image56
                    Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    Kids don't give  a crap unless old folks corrupt them.
                    They are willing to accept and deal with others without judgement. Get out of their way.

  7. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Women's sports teams should be able to compete against men's sports teams.

    Yes? 
    No?

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      If they want to.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
        Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Yes! If they can find a group of guys up for it!
        ...  and if either team is willing to accept defeat!!!!
        smile
        I would watch!

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Men's sports teams should be able to compete against women's sports teams?

    Yes? 
    No?

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      If both teams are on board.

  9. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Soccer balls should be allowed at tennis matches?

    Yes?
    No?

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Would be very frustrating to watch, and hard on the rackets.

  10. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Basket balls should be allowed on the golf course?

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Oh no... LOL

  11. profile image56
    Researchaccountposted 17 months ago

    Since the NCAA already has regulations on this, what's your concern? Can't local schools deal with the middle school soccer team? I mean we kicked back abortion to the states but we need this control on transgenders?   What is  the issue or point?  How many transgender individuals are there in the population? I hope you realize how small. How many would like to play sports? I think even smaller. And does it matter if they participate in playground sports?  Why is this issue the crown jewel of Republican politics?  Why? Because these people have little clout & power. Easily vilified.  This issue affects very few and even fewer are concerned about it.
    On the flip side; Biden signed an executive order on today that contains more than 50 directives to increase access to child care.  This is just more relatable to many more people.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      you mean govt control over child care

      1. profile image56
        Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        No. Access to childcare

  12. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Baseballs should be used in place of ping pong balls when so desired.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Certainly

  13. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Women with balls should be allowed to dance in tights, even though it is unsightly.

    Men should be allowed to show them off when dressed in drag, even though it is confusing ... especially to little kids who are exposed to such a grotesque sight.
    I'm sorry, it is not a grotesque sight, it is something beautiful ...
    to whom, I do not know.
    I guess to the one who still has his balls.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      You have topped yourself....

    2. profile image56
      Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Who really cares?

    3. Miebakagh57 profile image72
      Miebakagh57posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Stop mocking the men.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
        Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        ... well, men (some) admire the sight of their own apparatus, don't they?

        (Some do not, in the least, apparently.)

  14. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Philosophical discussion regarding human rights has a valid place in human discourse/debate. 

    A. Yes 
    B. No

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      yes

  15. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    for that we give him a pass.

    ... see you 'round.

  16. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    we are talking about preserving the rights of humans vs an anything-goes and who-cares attitude regarding how any transperson(s) affects others, either fairly or un fairly.

    It does affect others and fairness is ignored by an anything-goes attitude.
    A cavalier do-what-you-like attitude.

    I for one, am not having it.
    Been there, done that.
    It doesn't work and it will lead to the continued ruination/downfall of society.

  17. Ken Burgess profile image70
    Ken Burgessposted 17 months ago

    Apologies if this was brought up and I missed it.

    ‘No apology’: Megyn Kelly tears into trans protesters who ‘kidnapped’ and assaulted Riley Gaines
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8XOq57v9Yc

    1. profile image56
      Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      The actors fox hires are painful and unrelatable

  18. profile image56
    Researchaccountposted 17 months ago

    "But Karissa Niehoff, the executive director of the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS), isn't clear on what all the fuss is about.

    "They're trying to put legislative momentum behind a problem that really doesn't exist," Niehoff says.

    This year, NFHS conducted an informal survey to see how many transgender athletes were competing across the country. "It was very, very few," she says.

    There is no data available that provides an exact number of transgender students in high school, let alone transgender student-athletes. There are approximately 15 million high school students in the United States, and approximately 8 million of them participate in high school sports. A CDC study published in 2019 estimated that 1.8 percent of high school students are transgender, meaning there are roughly 270,000 transgender students in U.S. high schools. But a report by the Human Rights Campaign found that only 14% of transgender boys and 12% of transgender girls play sports. Given all of those numbers, it's statistically possible that there are some 35,000 transgender student-athletes in high school, which would mean 0.44% of high school athletes are transgender.

    The Associated Press asked lawmakers who sponsored legislation focusing on transgender athletes for local examples, and they were unable to do so. 

    https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/32 … es-debates

  19. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 17 months ago

    This is extremely upsetting to me on many levels. My wife and daughter were both student athletes. Anyone familiar with female student athletes knows there are NOT that many opportunities for women to play sports. Period. Every transgendered female, who is a biological male, has an unfair advantage because of bone density, muscle mass, etc. These individuals are taking the limited opportunities from biological females to play sports. It's obvious they can't compete with their biological gender so they play in female sports and take championships that should go to biological females. I think to permit such a thing is despicable. These girls work hard an train hard and shouldn't have to compete with biological males with mental disorders. It's not fair, and I am 100% against it in all forms.

    1. Miebakagh57 profile image72
      Miebakagh57posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Mike, I'm in agreement with you, 100%.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      well said,

  20. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

    Here is the solution:

    Only coed sports teams allowed ... across the board.


    You're welcome.

  21. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 17 months ago

    "Pew Research Center survey finds that 1.6% of U.S. adults are transgender or nonbinary – that is, their gender differs from the sex they were assigned at birth."
    "The UCLA School of Law's Williams Institute, a think tank that conducts research on sexual orientation and gender identity law and public policy, published a study June 2022 estimating that 1.4 % of U.S. people 13 - 24 are transgender.

    1. profile image56
      Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Exactly . The far right loves to pick on the powerless.  They also love to whip their disciplines into a frenzy over an issue they've grossly inflated with fantastical fearmomgering  & "othering".  They don't even bother to look at NCAA rules or rules put in place at high schools around the country. Rules that have gone unused due to no transgender athletes. 
      Just the MAGA crowd serving up another big  fat nothing burger.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting.  So Kathleen, do you hope to share a point, and elaborate on the subject?

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
        Kathleen Cochranposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Just facts to put the conversation into relevant context.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image87
          Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

          OK,

    3. Readmikenow profile image96
      Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      So?

      1. profile image56
        Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Republicans are harping on an issue that is almost non existent. Vilifying and fear mongering over a very small group of people. Why? Well with MAGA cruelty and anger  IS the point.

        1. Readmikenow profile image96
          Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          Keeping biological males with mental health issues from ruining women's sports designed for only women is a good thing. Keeping biological males with mental health issues out of women's prisons is a good thing. Keeping them out of women's bathrooms is also a good thing. When these people have been put into female prisons, it has had horrible results. Fighting to end the permanent mutilation of  young impressionable children is a good thing.  Liberals are who is angry, cruel as well as stupid.

          1. Miebakagh57 profile image72
            Miebakagh57posted 17 months agoin reply to this

            The challenge is too complex.

            Seems joe biden acts alone in the issue.

            Is he sponsoring his own private Bill?

            I don't think a sensible person will ever dare it.

            It seems to me also that there are hawks behind the bill.

            Otherwise, why the Presidential Veto?

          2. profile image56
            Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            What is different in this bill than what is in the NCAA policy?  How would this almost nonexistent issue be handled differently with government overreach?

            1. Readmikenow profile image96
              Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              It's very simple. The NCAA permits transgendered men to compete in women's sports. It's determined on a sport by sport basis.

              https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2022/1/27/t … olicy.aspx

              H. R. 734 prevents biological males from competing with females in ANY Sport.

              Look at section 2 amendment.

              https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-con … l/734/text

              I strongly support this.

              1. profile image56
                Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                NCAA:
                The policy is effective immediately, with three phases of implementation.

                Phase One – 2022 winter and spring championships
                For participation in 2022 winter and spring championships, transgender student-athletes were required to provide documentation to the CSMAS within four weeks before the selections date for their championship.

                The documentation had to demonstrate compliance with the 2010 NCAA policy, which calls for one year of testosterone suppression treatment. It also had to document a one-time serum testosterone level that fell below the maximum allowable level for the sport in which the student-athlete was competing within four weeks of championship selections for that sport. That means that student-athletes who already fulfilled the 2010 NCAA policy only needed provide one validated serum testosterone level.

                Transgender student-athletes who participated in regular season competition (including conference championships) remained subject to the 2010 NCAA policy only.

                Phase Two – 2022-23 and 2023-24 regular season and championships
                Beginning Aug. 1, 2022, participation in NCAA sports requires transgender student-athletes to provide documentation that meets the above criteria for the 2010 NCAA policy, plus meet the sport standard for documented testosterone levels at three points in time: 1. Prior to any competition during the regular season; 2. Prior to the first competition in an NCAA championship event; and 3. Prior to any competition in the non-championship segment. See the transgender student-athlete eligibility review procedures for more information.

                Phase Three – 2024-25 full implementation
                Beginning Aug. 1, 2024, participation in NCAA sports requires transgender student-athletes to provide documentation no less than twice annually (and at least once within four weeks of competition in NCAA championships) that meets the sport-specific standard (which may include testosterone levels, mitigation timelines and other aspects of sport-governing body policies) as reviewed and approved by CSMAS. More information about the specific application of Phase Three will be provided prior to implementation.

                Why should the government usurp this? Seems more than adequate to address a rare occurrence and should be left to the sports governing body not politicians. 
                Republicans should heed the lessons of the loses of the extremist candidates of the midterm

                Yet Republicans seem to be a brazen band of bomb throwers. Their answer for Americans worried about the economy and growing gun violence? . They respond to the deepest needs of swing voters by working night and day to investigate Hunter Biden, ban books, muzzle teachers and corporations,  rail against LGBTQ folks and make for damn sure every woman carries a pregnancy to term by God even if it kills her.

                1. wilderness profile image94
                  wildernessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  "Why should the government usurp this?"

                  Because, if they wish to compete, women must compete against men.  Really simple, really obvious.  Women's sports are now coed sports...and all because some men wish to pretend they are women.

                  1. Readmikenow profile image96
                    Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    I agree. Men should not be permitted to participate in women's sports...period. It's a simple concept. Women's sports are for women and men's sports are for me. It's really not complicated...until...those in charge of sports decided they would bow down to men with mental health issues.

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                    Researchaccountposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    You haven't addressed the testosterone levels.

                  3. Sharlee01 profile image87
                    Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    I can't see how anyone does not see common sense in the problem of males competing against women. I mean maybe some should look to science...

                  4. Ken Burgess profile image70
                    Ken Burgessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    Its all good, relax, you guys have way too much Masculine Toxicity.

                    They alter Special Forces schools, like the Rangers, so that women can pass through the school... there is nothing proving this has any negative impact on combat effectiveness or quality of the solders now passing through that school.

                    They changed Boy Scouts to Scouts, so that they could no longer discriminate against girls who wanted to be Boy Scouts, inclusivity is all important and separation of sexes and sex type roles need to be done away with.

                    They alter the definition of a woman, so that it can include anyone that wants to identify as a women; similar to what they did for the Rangers, they make changes so that it can be inclusive, and anyone that wants to be something they previously were restricted from being can now become.

                    It is disgusting how antiquated some people's thoughts are regarding these issues.  It is NOT about what you were born as... its about what you feel, its about what you identify as.

                    No one else has the right to make a Transgender feel disrespected, or worse, ashamed of themselves for being what they want to be, what they identify as.

                    Only evil people do not want to accept Transgenders for the women that they are.  Only evil people want to maintain standards that discriminate against those without the strength or endurance to do what others do.

                    Until everyone can be what they want to be, until all standards are leveled so that anyone can meet them, regardless of their intelligence or their physical ability... our country is NOT free!  People are being oppressed!

  22. Valeant profile image76
    Valeantposted 17 months ago
    1. DrMark1961 profile image98
      DrMark1961posted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Very good study, and in their conclusions they state "it follows that transgender women will enter the female division with an inherent advantage because of their prior male physiology."

      This is very similar to the results from the British study that she cited.

      1. Valeant profile image76
        Valeantposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Indeed.  I think if presented with enough of these studies, Democrats must chooses fairness over inclusion.

        1. DrMark1961 profile image98
          DrMark1961posted 17 months agoin reply to this

          I can just imagine what Guttfeld would think, having one less thing to complain about!

  23. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 17 months ago

    High school volleyball player says she suffered concussion after being injured by trans athlete, calls for ban

    A North Carolina high school volleyball player said she suffered significant and long-term physical and mental injuries last fall when she was spiked in the face by a transgender athlete who was able to compete on a girls’ team because of a policy put in place by the state’s high school athletic association.

    Payton McNabb, a senior at Hiwassee Dam High School in Murphy, N.C., spoke out for the first time about her injuries on Wednesday during a press conference where she called on state legislators to pass t​​he Fairness in Women's Sports Act that would prohibit biological males from competing on girls’ sports teams, citing her own experience.

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/high-sch … -calls-ban

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      BKLYN1122posted 17 months agoin reply to this

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      1. Sharlee01 profile image87
        Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Is showering with a biological man also something that needs to be accepted?  As a Christian, I would object to having my child submit to showering with anyone but a person of their biological birth gender.
        I want my child's religion respected. Period

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          BKLYN1122posted 17 months agoin reply to this

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          1. Readmikenow profile image96
            Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            When rule or policies are violated, there should be consequences.  The biological male who did this should be punished. Period.

        2. Readmikenow profile image96
          Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          Girls getting spiked in the face by a biological male while playing a girl's sport is not an acceptable hazard.

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            BKLYN1122posted 17 months agoin reply to this

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            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
              Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              It's a matter of Edgar and the boys.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                if they (Edgar and the boys) completely leave town and the person fully transitions to the opposite sex, maybe things would be okay.
                I don't know.

                But anyway for those who transition completely and utterly, they are not very healthy or happy and surely loose the desire and ability to compete.
                Sure, let a fully transitioned transperson play sports and compete with the sex of his proclaimed (and encouraged) psychological identity.

                It won't be for long.

                These victims of confused identity are being poisoned and slowly killed with all the medical procedures they must endure and the myriad of pharmaceutical substances and hormones they must take for the rest of their lives.

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                  BKLYN1122posted 17 months agoin reply to this

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                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    ... many stories are told on the internet and their struggles are real.

                    1. Readmikenow profile image96
                      Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                      Well, I won't go into details, but, I know one trans woman who refers to biological women as "bleeders," and "chest feeders," refers to pregnant women as "pregnant persons" and tells young teenage girls they're not really women just because they have periods and ovaries.

                      I don't know if all trans women are like this, but I know at least one who is like this.

            2. Readmikenow profile image96
              Readmikenowposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              If that is the case, it is biological girls playing against biological girls.

              Isn't it odd that only trans women want to play in women sports. No trans man wants to play in men's sports.

              Many trans women want to play women sports because they can then win championships they would not if they played against biological males.  Most of them didn't do well against men, so they switched to female sports.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
                Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                ... well, what do you know!!!!



                So, women who don't have Edgar and the boys are shy around all the those who do have their so and sos (insert their various other names)
                and the boys!

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                Bklyn1323posted 17 months agoin reply to this

                And what have they won?

                1. Miebakagh57 profile image72
                  Miebakagh57posted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  It doesn't matter. But the odds are too many.

          2. Valeant profile image76
            Valeantposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            I watched the play and have a long history in the sport.  That spike was no harder than she would have seen from the top girls in her sport.  It looked bad because the coach had her so close to the attack and the block was not protecting her.  The coach's system put her in more danger than the opposing player.  Any high school girl could have injured her from that distance.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image70
              Ken Burgessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              Amazing, well, I'm no expert but I have played plenty of volleyball.

              Never came across a woman who could hurt me with her spike.

              1. Valeant profile image76
                Valeantposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                I've played against Olympians and know a few 14-year old girls from our area that hit harder than that trans player, let alone some of the older high school kids.  Yesterday, while reffing a lower Division I women's team during their spring scrimmage, a girl concussed a girl who was six feet further away from the net than the one that is referenced in this thread. 

                Some solid machismo, but you need to play at higher levels to really understand the strength and talent of today's women's players.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image70
                  Ken Burgessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                  Uh-huh, yeah, thanks for telling me about my own experiences and lack of comprehension.

                  I'll stick to what I know vs. whatever fantasies you have floating around in that head of yours.

                  1. Valeant profile image76
                    Valeantposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                    One of us has multiple hubs written breaking down technical aspects of this sport, one of us sells real estate.  Pretty sure it's easy to see which of us has the fantasies of their ability to comprehend the level of women's volleyball in the country currently.

                    1. Ken Burgess profile image70
                      Ken Burgessposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                      Oh I see, so what a person writes about is what they have deep and detailed experience in.

                      And if they don't write many hubs here about it, then of course, they have no experience in a subject.

                      Arrogant, condescending, egotistical, narcissistic... just a few words that popped into my head at the moment, not sure why.

      2. Miebakagh57 profile image72
        Miebakagh57posted 17 months agoin reply to this

        I can't bring myself to believe that biolgical female can compete with the males in say, a game of football.                                I take it that it's best they play against they biological females.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          So, they would have to betray themselves!!!!!

          Sad to be them. sad

    2. Readmikenow profile image96
      Readmikenowposted 17 months ago

      As the father of a daughter, I would be livid if this happened to my child.

      "Trans woman showered with four Wisconsin high school girls, violated their privacy, letter to district claims

      Letter alleges trans woman exposed private area to underage girls

      According to the letter, titled "Serious Violation of Girls’ Privacy Rights in Sun Prairie East Locker Room," four Sun Prairie East High School freshmen girls were disturbed when an alleged "undressed" 18-year-old transgender woman came into the locker room and got into the showers with the girls."

      1. Sharlee01 profile image87
        Sharlee01posted 17 months agoin reply to this

        I am with you. As a parent, I would be up in arms.

    3. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      So, I am really wondering...
      (if any one knows:)

      Q. Can the individuals who have gone through all this transitioning still ...

                                               climax?


        "At this time, there do not appear to be any studies which examine sexual health or orgasmic experience in trans individuals who initiated affirmative treatment prior to adulthood or the onset of puberty."

      yikes


      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog … rans-youth

    4. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
      Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months ago

      Did God really make woman second?
      Maybe the womb-man was first and gave birth to the womb-less man.
      hmmmm ...  Are the womb-man and the womb-less man both "men?"

      Well they are both beautiful.

      I have heard, that the original humans, (hu+"man," again!) did not even have wombs or sex organs. Children were produced by the sheer ability to recreate through their God-like mental/spiritual abilities.

      However, in time, by observing what the animals were doing, they decided to try what they were doing ... and so evolved the opposite sex organs/wombs like theirs. (And/or by procreating with the slowly evolving "cave men" ...?)

      Maybe that's the true story of Adam and Eve.
      God said, "Don't do what the animals are doing."

      I mean, why would eating an apple bring about the fall of the first human creations who The Bible refers to as "Adam" and "Eve" ? ?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
        Kathryn L Hillposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        I do feel sorry for those who end up in a body they do not want to be in.
        However, its best just to struggle through for health reasons and for the purpose of learning higher spiritual lessons/karma.

        For instance, maybe the soul, (before birth,) decided it needed to experience being either male or female. What if you were a terrible person who mis-treated the opposite sex? Maybe you chose to experience the oppose sex to understand that what you did was hurtful in an attempt to change your ways and selfish inclinations?

        A life-time in the shoes of the opposite sex might cause the criminal-soul to feel empathy and be motivated to change for the better.

        Additionally, I have heard that if one is racist or prejudiced against a certain nationality, race or culture, one might reap the karmic consequence of reincarnating into that same race, culture or nationality.

     
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