In the DeSantis Campaign Over Before It Even Began?

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   Valeantposted 20 months ago

   DeSantis continues to make major missteps beginning with his stance on Ukraine, expanding his 'Don't Say Gay' bill from k-third grade to k-senior year, and then going up to Washington to get endorsements and then having half the reps from his own state leave meetings with him and immediately endorse Trump.
   
   There are now two media reports on major GOP donors withholding contributions as they learn more about him.
   
   So is his campaign over even before it began, much like Mike Pompeo who accurately read the tea leaves and shut down his campaign because there just isn't a market for a Trump sycophant when Trump is in the field?
   
   Claire McCaskill talks about it with Alex Wagner:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGpA2yr2cWM&t=32s

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      Kathleen Cochranposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      These are the choices? Yes. It's over.
      
      How many times do the American people have to vote against Trump for him to go away?
      
      Though I am idealistically opposed to the GOP platform, I know there are better candidates than these available. "When you know better, do better." Come on, Republicans!

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         Sharlee01posted 20 months agoin reply to this

         Kathleen,
         
         "How many times do the American people have to vote against Trump for him to go away?"
         
         Put another way --- Why do so many Americans vote for Trump?

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      GA Andersonposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      That was almost a 'hit piece' on DeSantis. And from MSNBC . . . And from a former Democrat Senator and now Democrat strategist . . .
      
      And McCaskill pretty much nailed it. I think DeSantis is ignoring a valuable Twain quote; he's trying to fight on his opponent's level and is going to get beat by experience.
      
      GA

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         Sharlee01posted 20 months agoin reply to this

         Well said

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         Valeantposted 20 months agoin reply to this

         Someone else said it best when they noted, "DeSantis just got beat by Mickey Mouse, not sure our country would want him sitting across from Putin or Xi with that record."

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            GA Andersonposted 20 months agoin reply to this

            I also heard that quip.  It was part of a comment about who (as in voting middle Americans) will see that analogy as cutely accurate. I've only seen the recent headlines and it seems a fair description to me.
            
            GA

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            Ken Burgessposted 20 months agoin reply to this

            That is a political perspective not everyone shares.

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               Valeantposted 20 months agoin reply to this

               Disney definitely got the better of him, by following the law, while he was oblivious to their legal action.  Not exactly a feather in the man's cap.

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                  Ken Burgessposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                  DeSantis made a political stand and made statements, Disney made a political stand and made statements.
                  
                  DeSantis lost few, if any voters over it, maybe he even gained some, who knows.
                  
                  Disney on the other hand, has lost customers, profits... how many, for how long, who knows.
                  
                  When businesses get involved in politics, especially when they espouse one extreme over a more moderate position, they lose customers and profits... regardless of the side they choose.
                  
                  Politicians on the other hand, well, that is their job... to constantly be involved in politics and making headlines.

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                     RebelWithAClueposted 20 months agoin reply to this

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                        Ken Burgessposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                        Walt Disney Company New Losses Total $123 Billion in 2022 and a 44% Stock Drop. 2022 has turned into Disney and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Year.
                        
                        The Walt Disney Co. has lost nearly $63 billion in market capitalization since it decided in March [2022] to embrace radical LGBTQ activism and declare war on Florida by opposing the state’s Parental Rights in Education law.
                        
                        Woke Disney’s year of enduring box office bombs, subscriber losses and layoffs.
                        
                        Disney released "Lightyear," the newest film in the "Toy Story" franchise. It featured a same-sex kiss that was at first cut, then restored, amidst controversy relating to Disney speaking out over Florida’s parental rights law. "Lightyear" also ultimately became the lowest-grossing film in a franchise that has made over $3.3 billion so far and has been declared a "bomb" by several outlets.
                        
                        Another Disney movie did even worse, entering the outright disaster territory as the fall release of "Strange World" lost around $147 million. The film features the first openly LGBTQ+ teenaged Disney character, who discusses his crush in the movie.
                        
                        One year after Ron Desantis went to war with Disney, Desantis won re-election by 19 points, the largest victory in FL state history for a Republican governor, & Disney fired its CEO & just announced today it’s firing 7,000 more employees.
                        
                        What a win for Desantis & a loss for Disney.

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                  Ken Burgessposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                  Another reason why I love the guy:
                  
                  https://electrek.co/2022/04/27/84-of-fl … it-anyway/
                  
                  If you are into partisan politics and you want "your side" to win, then no amount of debating the issues really matters... Republicans = Bad ... Democrats = Good. 
                  
                  But if you are into reviewing what a politician does, then what is next to their name (D) or (R) doesn't matter so much.
                  
                  I'll take DeSantis anyday, time and again he does the things that are best for the people of the State.  Not an Agenda... Not Big Business... but the people... the majority... not the "special" few.
                  
                  This is one more example, the power companies were trying to screw it to the Homeowners who have gone solar, they have been trying to kill the solar initiative in Florida for years... they don't want Floridians getting free from paying them hundreds of dollars a month... they don't want people having energy independence.
                  
                  This was not a move made the power companies liked... he did what was best for the people of Florida.

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                     Valeantposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                     'I'll take DeSantis anyday, time and again he does the things that are best for the people of the State.'
                     
                     Which people?  Certainly not the LGBQT+ community.  Certainly not educators that he will ultimately end up prosecuting.  Not the people of Jacksonville that he has ignored to do his non-campaign campaign across the nation while they suffer massive flooding.  No, DeSantis does what is best for DeSantis, and he veto was common sense as 90% of the people were against the bill and he couldn't risk alienating that many people.

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      Ken Burgessposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      Well, I don't want him going anywhere anyways.
      
      The State is at least a refuge for people who do not want to be so progressive in taxation or in social areas.
      
      If he had left, who knows who steps in.

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   Researchaccountposted 20 months ago

   Florida is operating as a de facto autocracy, in which one person has absolute power. DeSantis has convinced enough Floridians to accept authoritarianism.  His signing of a 6 week abortion ban just put the nail in his coffin as far as him having any success on the national stage.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 20 months ago

   "Put another way --- Why do so many Americans vote for Trump?"
   
   I don't know, but it is never the majority.

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   Valeantposted 20 months ago

   Kemp says the obvious part out loud, in what should help DeSantis' flailing campaign.
   
   https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-gov- … 24469.html

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      Bklyn1323posted 20 months agoin reply to this

      "No candidate drives apathetic Democrats to the polls like Trump. Likewise, no Republican repels centrist GOP voters and Independents the way the former president does "
      
      A  formula that will plague Republicans for some time to come. I think it will take many cycles for them to shake off the stain of Trump and I'm here for it.

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