Do we need more proof that the FBI works for the Democrat party and not the people?
FBI doesn't share document GOP subpoenaed alleging 'criminal scheme' involving Biden
The House Oversight Committee subpoenaed the FBI for an FD-1023 form
The FBI did not comply with the House Oversight Committee’s subpoena compelling the production of an FBI document that a whistleblower alleged describes as a criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national and relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions.
They said the whistleblower alleged the document "includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose."
House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., told Fox News Digital that it is "clear from the FBI’s response that the unclassified record the Oversight Committee subpoenaed exists, but they are refusing to provide it to the Committee."
Comer and Grassley said that based on "the alleged specificity within the document, it would appear that the DOJ and the FBI have enough information to determine the truth and accuracy of the information contained within it."
I'll talk when one of 'we the people' break the ice.
I saw the video, Mike, who was in charge of the FBI in 2018? How could it have been the Democrats during Trump's term?
Credence, you're a Democrate, right? Who was in charge of the FBI back in 2018? Is he a member of the GOP? As an outsider, I refuse to talk initially...about something I don't know. But I'll contribute to the discusion. I was so challenge some 5 years ago. Thanks.
Yes, I support Democrats over a Republicans and Donald Trump, as President was in charge of the FBI.
Christopher Wray, appointed by Donald Trump in August 2017.
The subject of the thread is about the FBI is 2023 refusing to turn over a document subpoenaed from the US Congress. What does that have to do with 2017?
But that standpoint you’re right. The FBI should’ve complied with the request from Congress Ok…..
So, what reason would the FBI have for refusing to supply a subpoenaed document from a whistleblower that is alleged to have details of the biden family payoffs from foreign countries?
Why isn't the FBI investigating this and providing its findings to Congress?
I am sure that this is just another Republican stunt, but the reality is "trust but verify". Mr. Biden, if he operating on the up and up, should cooperate with the subpoenaed request, so that the truth can be determined.
Just remember though, I am going to judge Republicans and their political skulduggery using the same yardstick.
Stunt? This sounds like spanish to me. Seriously, and even as an outsider, whosoever will make America, God's own country great is welcomed.
Stunt in Spanish is 'Truco', just in case you wanted to know.
"whosoever will make America, God's own country great is welcomed."
It is just that in America, there are differing as to who and how that is accomplished.
This actually shouldn't be about a particular party. It is about a law enforcement agency serving the biased interests of one particular party, the democrat party.
It does beg the question of why the FBI won't turn over the statement.
This does not seem right in any way.
No,being candid and forthcoming should not be a partisan issue, as the Republicans violate this, daily.
I am certainly not going to place this fault exclusively on the Democrat party, and you know that already.
I have asked the same question you have and while addressing IslandBites, I have expressed my concerns with her.
Mike, saw this video, thought you would be interested.
Answers a question or two you had regarding another matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eTG32YC_Uw
So, what reason would the FBI have for refusing to supply a subpoenaed document
Im sure he knows but didnt quote it. So, here.
The FBI responded in a letter Wednesday, with Christopher Dunham, the acting assistant director for congressional affairs, saying that while the FBI was committed to "beginning the constitutionally mandated accommodation process," it was also bound by Justice Department policy, which "strictly limits when and how confidential human source information can be provided outside of the FBI."
"This letter responds to your subpoena, authorized on May 3, 2023, demanding the production of documents within one week. As this was your first communication with the FBI seeking this information, please know that the FBI is committed to beginning the constitutionally mandated accommodation process," the letter states. "The FBI is committed to working to provide the Committee information necessary for your legitimate oversight interests, while also protecting executive branch confidentiality interests and law enforcement responsibilities.
"You have asked for what you say is a ‘precise description’ of an ‘alleged criminal scheme’ contained in is a single FD-1023 report. You express concern that the FBI has inappropriately ‘failed to disclose’ such a report ‘to the American people,’" the FBI states." It is critical to the integrity of the entire criminal justice process and to the fulfillment of our law enforcement duties that FBI avoid revealing information — including unverified or incomplete information — that could harm investigations, prejudice prosecutions or judicial proceedings, unfairly violate privacy or reputational interests, or create misimpressions in the public."
The FBI said "even confirming the fact of the existence (or nonexistence) of an investigation or a particular piece of investigative information can risk these serious harms," which is "why it is — and has long been — standard practice for law enforcement agencies to decline to confirm or deny such a fact."
"Thus, your request for a single FD-1023 report that you say includes a ‘precise description’ of an ‘alleged criminal scheme’ risks the harms that our confidentiality rules protect against," the FBI wrote.
FoxNews
Thank you,
I don't want to give my adversaries ANY ammunition to accuse the Biden administration of lacking candor in the withholding of information. The Right will see the FBI explanation as an "excuse" to protect the President and they will stir up all the conspiracy theory machines toward that end.
Trump said a lot of the same things surrounding his claims of "Executive Privilege" to stonewall committees and conceal wrongdoing.
It may be a matter of the administration doing a better job in defending, in laymen terms, the nature of the material sought and the reasons to not make it available in whole or in part to congressional committees.
Trump said a lot of the same things surrounding his claims of "Executive Privilege" to stonewall committees and conceal wrongdoing.
You've missed the point. This document is not being requested from biden, it is being requested from a federal law enforcement agency. There has been NO claim on executive privilege in this matter.
It is the FBI breaking the law and not complying with legal subpoena authority of the US Congress.
No, I haven't missed the point, I am talking about a general overriding theme of being forthcoming and honest in disclosing information to those authorized to ask for it, regardless of what side of political fence you find yourself on.
Maybe I know too much to be a liberal.
Guess what?
Congressional Subponeas are part of federal law. They are not bound by any policy of any department like Justice Department policy.
"executive branch confidentiality interests and law enforcement responsibilities"
There was never a claim of executive branch confidentiality claimed by biden. Claims of executive branch confidentiality must be claimed by the executive branch. One of the responsibilities of law enforcement is to follow the law. This includes complying with Congressional subpoenas.
This makes things VERY suspicious.
Again, Congress has the authority to subpoena ANY document it believes is relevant to their investigations from ANY federal agency.
I would not be surprised if the director of the FBI is found in contempt of Congress over this.
Again, this is one more time the FBI is protecting biden's corruption.
Ah ha ha?! I never have heard that biden is corrupt as president of the USA.
What does any of that have to do with the FBI of 2023 refusing a subpoena from Congress?
Come on Credence, you know well enough that the FBI does not get changed over simply because Democrats or Republicans are in Office or "in control".
Going all the way back to pre-WWII days. J. Edgar Hoover was the most powerful person the United States of America had ever seen, had more power than Presidents, back then... with the NSA being added in since then it has only become more powerful, the FBI is its own entity, its part of the problem... an out of control DC Establishment that no longer is under the control of the elected officials or answerable to them.
J. Edgar Hoover was an anomaly that was in a position that can never happen again. Trump could hire and fire directors at will, he did not hesistate to fire others during his term.
Calvin Coolidge appointed Hoover, Hoover had 50 years to concentrate his power and influence.
So, is that the idea behind the "deep state", the claim that every federal agency and bureaucrat is working against Trump?
For the record, President Donald Trump did fire FBI director James Comey.
I would say at this point in time the FBI and the Department of Justice are working for democrats and the biden administration.
Just as the FBI was working for Donald Trump and his administration. Last time I checked, the President is in charge of the Dept. Of Justice, office of the Attorney General and the FBI. Comey was fired obviously for not subscribing to the wishes of his supervisor, Donald Trump. He was able to do this even going over the head of the Attorney General as he needed to.
So what is the difference? At an earlier period, the FBI and the Dept. Of Justice were working for Trump and the Republicans...
Credence it is not that they JUST work against Trump.
They work against ALL who try to advocate for the people AGAINST the corporate tyranny and foreign influence and global agenda that has taken over our federal government.
They shut down Robert Kennedy Jr. for his Anti-Big-Pharma positions.
They shut down Tulsi Gabbard for her Anti-Military-Industrial-Complex and Anti-"Democracy Building" efforts like we have in Syria and Ukraine today.
They shut down movements by labeling them racist, sexist, bigoted, whatever works... whether its parents opposing sex-ed to pre-schoolers or Tea-Partyers opposing the ACA and corporate bailouts.
The FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, an octopus with many arms... with only a limited answerability to who-ever the President is... whether he is being a front man and in lock step with their goals or whether he is in opposition to them as Trump was.
There is that anti-government stance that I don't agree with. If the government doesn't work it is due to the people we elect and put there.
RFK junior and Tulsi Gabbard are Republicans in ideology and practical politics. I just know a little about RFK jr, but he is nothing like his father. Gabbard adheres to far too many values and approaches that I don't share, as a keynote speaker at a rightwing oriented CPAC conference?
Trump was just another form of corruption, perhaps unique, but not any better than the system he railing against.
I am a Democrat who adheres to certain ideological principles and ideas, I cannot support anyone not cohesive with those regardless of their label they may attach to themselves.
You support the system.
The system will bring you CBDC, Environmental Justice Carbon Taxation, Equity, etc.
The system will subject you and all those like you that support it, to a new serfdom, if you ever stop wanting to support it, you will no longer get access to your CBDC, which will include social security, pension plans, etc.
The change you fail to accept or acknowledge is that the Democrats have become the party of the rich, the elite, the globalists, the anarchists, the deconstructionists, etc.
They depend on your obedience and adherence to Party support, to continue to classify Republicans as the racists, elites, etc.
The joke is on you however, because the end game is your own servitude to a central government that only cares about more control and more power, not at all about preserving your freedoms, liberties, or standards of living.
If you could remake the "system" what would you do?
Does authoritarianism, AKA, Donald Trump preferred over Democracy?
The only people that has really threated Social Security, (my pension does not eminate from there) are Republicans and the Right. The "system" has at least maintained it.
I see the servitude side coming as from other than those that I generally support.
You have define the Democrats so what are the Republicans relative to that?
There are two distinct ideologically poles, and they have become more distinct in recent years.
I have to support the party closest to my ideological and political views and right now, that is the Democrats.
I guess we will see who has the last laugh?
There are many topics for which you appear to be well verses and I need to get up to speed on. I am not convinced that your alternative will be to an advantage to any of us.
You are breaking this down into party politics.
Party doesn't matter... two wings of the same bird.
Its like saying there is a difference between Fox and MSNBC.
Its just an act... they only go so far in their differences but support the same thing.
Fox ousting Tucker is proof of that... only so much truth is allowed, you can play up the differences between the parties, but not start showing the American people that the whole cabal is corrupt... and anyone that goes counter to the corruption gets excommunicated.
Tulsi Gabbard, Robert Kennedy Jr. ... doesn't matter.
What else do you think Carbon Taxation, CBDC and a Social Credit system that will tie into your CBDC is going to bring you?
You think you will be more free, safer from persecution and subjugation?
You will be fined for "activities that...involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in the U.S. Government's sole discretion...promote misinformation" up to $2,500 per violation.
That is why everything is about race, or sex identity, or whatever works to keep people like yourself fighting people like me who will never support subjugation and serfdom.
You are the one supporting a system bringing subjugation back into fashion, not me.
"Party doesn't matter... two wings of the same bird."
Then why do you always lean on its right wing?
What is the alternative outside of the "act" performed by "the bird"? Yes, the system may very well all be corrupt, but if Tucker is admired and supported by your folks, I certainly not going to trust any solution from that source.
So, Tucker was a truth teller? Wasn't he the racist that promot d the Great Replacement Theory? What would I have to do with anyone that was giving him a serious audience?
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"You will be fined for "activities that...involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in the U.S. Government's sole discretion...promote misinformation" up to $2,500 per violation."
Of course, I will raise Cain, if that were to actually take place.
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Because, in America, race has been and remains a continued sticking point. You don't think that Blacks support Democrats because they are being deceived, do you? There are stark lines in the sand as to which group people of color support verses groups to which white folks has lended most of its support.
There is a reason for that, all these "dingy people", not just Blacks, the vast majority of Hispanics, Jews, Asians and indigenous people cannot be that dumb, can they? That is the approach that our demonstrative adversaries use to confuse and misdirect the issue.
I say rightwing or whatever label you want to put upon it poses the biggest danger of turning the nation away from democratic traditions. I am not fighting you but I will do battle with what that label represents. I have to.
The beauty of accusing someone of being a racist is that a whole section of Americans choose to then ignore whatever that person is presenting.
Seems to work pretty good... once "the Left" gets its marching orders they go into character assassination mode... Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Mitt Romney... people who really don't seem to fit the "racist" label too well.
Heck race doesn't even seem to matter, you can be a POC and be called racist. The LA Times published a column referring to Larry Elder as 'Black Face of White Supremacy'.
Cancel culture... alive and well. Now being used against women who try to stand up against transgenders being accepted as women and allowed into their sports and shower rooms. Same tactics, same political group(s) pushing it.
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I do and they are.
The Democrats aren't the Party you knew 40 or 50 years ago.
This is where time and again you revert to seeing the battle as Republican vs. Democrat, as white vs. POC.
And that is exactly what they want you to keep believing.
They don't want you thinking about things like why are we supporting a war on Russia's border, or why are we creating a CBDC, or why is our government busing migrants into poor neighborhoods in Chicago and New York.
Look, over there... that DeSantis is evil, he is racist, he is homophobic, go stop him!
Look, over there... that Elon Musk, he bought Twitter, he is allowing racists and sexists to speak, he is lying about the FBI and Hunter and Joe Biden, he is evil, a racist, go stop him!
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As for the immigration issues, I have no problem with it myself, I am a realist and I have travelled to more parts of the world than most Americans... I think its a great thing that millions of Venezuelans and Columbians are coming to America... because they have survived bad government and bad politics and aren't likely to support it here.
But just for fun, lets take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtPv2DW8CC0
These guys are must watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp8sc4s7pD4
Ken, you can feel free to bypass the equivocation station.
Tucker is the darling for your crowd with his clearly racist and misogynistic commentary. He is rubbish, but he certainly has a large viewership and following, which speaks volumes about the true nature of our adversaries on the Right.
We are all thinking capable of pondering over more than one thing at a time, but that means that we cannot be distracted from that which would be of our concern.
From the standpoint of our community and interests, Larry Elder was a convenient tool for the Right against his own and that of the community that he was to serve. In California, he deserved to lose.
"I did and they are? "
It is the same voices from the people who say that slavery was an unfortunate inconvenience, who spent the better part of two centuries with their feet upon our necks, eradicate the incriminating truth about American history, burning books to attempt to incinerate that truth with lies now want to tell us, "how can we help"? So, the Great White Father is so savvy to a point that Blacks, Jews, Asians and Hispanics are not capable of regarding their own reality and interests? From where does all this great sage as wisdom derive? After all, a majority of those groups vote against your candidates and their themes. Who is going to deceive either us or them to disregard what is in front our very faces? Because HE said so, we are all to see their autocratic and tyrannical values and candidates as beneficial? Not in a lifetime. Those attitudes have never turned out well in the past, why should the future be any different? You guys are good at changing style and messaging approaches but the main theme remains.
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"This is where time and again you revert to seeing the battle as Republican vs. Democrat, as white vs. POC."
And you know what, deep down, it still is....
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I don't have much good to say about DeSantis, if he disappeared tomorrow, I would rejoice.
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Don't assume that Venezualans and Columbians would automatically embrace a rightwing strongman society as an alternative to their own?
"clearly racist and misogynistic commentary"
I'd love you to back that up with some examples.
Sure Mike,
https://newrepublic.com/post/172149/10- … n-said-air
Can you take issue with them?
This is it? This is what you base your opinion of Tucker Carlson on?
This is nothing more than a left wing hit piece from a left wing publication. I am not at all surprised.
The very minute they mention the Southern Poverty Law Center, the radical left-wing organization, the piece has lost all credibility.
These are opinions mentioning things out of context.
This is typical from the left.
I've watched Tucker Carlson for years. I've not always agreed with everything he says but you've still not provided any proof of racism or misogynistic commentary.
Just a piece of left wing propaganda.
If you didnt notice, maybe it was because you agree? Maybe?
I don't know about that, but I do know that more than one progressive has called the SPLC what is wrong with liberalism. You need only put their name in Google and there are many articles about the lies, double standards, and falsehoods promoted by the SPLC. Too many to even mention.
I thought that post was hilarious from the moment I read the title. Facism is a political philosophy developed by those that want government control of their lives, something that person is against. Complaining about the total collapse of testosterone levels among American men is certainly NOT facist.
But surely "tanning your testicles" is fascist!
Maybe? Didnt Mussolini and Franco both have something written about that in their laws?
(I would google that but I am busy squeezing ants into the baby bottle, as you suggested!)
Go ahead and laugh at the testosterone reference, Doc, the problem what is your concept of masculinity, and that increasing the levels will make men even more likely to enforce traditional roles of men verses women and hog tie all of those women that choose to vote Democratic, not welcoming the patriarchal attitude.
Tanning testicles as a solution sounds kind of dumb to me... but again that is Tucker.
He was commenting on a medical phenomena occuring in the US. If the left wants to twist his words and make it about something he never said I am in no way surprised.
It certainly would not be the first time.
So, Why introduce fruitcakes as guests to your program advocating silly ideas if you seek credibility before your audience?
Who determines if someone is a snake oil salesman? Is spouting some bizarre idea that goes against what most of us know now prohibited speech, or should even quacks and conspiracy theorists be listened to and debated?
In answer to your question, why not?
You are judged a great deal by the company that you keep, I guess that's why. Would you waste your viewers time by putting on a nut that said the Moon was made of green cheese?
You are really stretching the facts; The fact is that he had someone on his show that we do not agree with. It is sort of like CNN hosting Trump for a debate, even if they do not agree with him. Or was your MSM wasting the viewers time by allowing a president with an opposing view to be heard?
Am i, sorry Doc? if I chose to watch Jerry Springer, I would know what to expect ahead of time.
Presenting opposing points of view is not the same as someone proclaiming that the world is flat.
I can't and won't say that people cannot say what they will or associate with whom they will. But I reserve the right to hold people accountable for what they say and ideas that they legitimize and embrace in a public medium, and I may well judge the comments and come to my own conclusions, and they may well be different from yours.
Attacking that person because he presented an opposing viewpoint to your own is stretching it, but when you went to the green cheese argument your comment made about as much sense as the original guest.
I am surprised that they are not attacking him as a facist for allowing Mike Tyson to discuss how bad tiger urine stinks. If you feel that having someone like that is not up to your standards you are also free to switch the channel.
Testicle tanning is "green cheese" how is that supported within the medical establishement?
I do change the channel and think that must less about the program and its moderator.
No doubt you beleive that but you are totally wrong. The links between UV exposure and testicular levels have been published since the 1930s. I am not aware of any studies of the benefits of UV exposure to the testicular skin since people that tan in that area are also tanning their backs, abodmen, etc.
There is certainly nothing whacky about suggesting that alternative, however, and certainly nothing facist about it despite what the leftists rant about.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8411113/
As I mentioned, if you do not agree with a scientific theory because you do not care for the views of the presenter you have the right to remain ignorant of the subject. It is not correct to come along later and say "I am ignorant of this subject therefore it is nothing more than green cheese."
In the face of new evidence that you have provided, I stand corrected.
The use of the term "fascist" was unfortunate and inaccurate in this instance. But Carlson still remains a race bailing provocateur in my humble opinion.
I can certainly understand you feeling that way as many things he says grates against what most of us believe.
As to your last paragraph, I certainly do expect them to look out for their own best interests.
The real immigration influx is just one more item they distract Americans from, by agitating hate and divisiveness. Divide and distract.
A report on the current efforts to increase immigration: https://youtu.be/6HlhQkAidSs
I advise everyone to go get a TB vaccine.
The thread is giving me some food for thought. Thank you guys.
It has now been proven that the letter signed by 51 intelligence officers saying the Hunter Biden laptop story was a hoax...was created by the biden campaign. MORE evidence that the 2020 election was rigged.
"Biden campaign officials prompted a group of former spies to pen the infamous 2020 letter that falsely asserted that Russia was behind the release of emails from Hunter Biden’s laptop.
Former CIA deputy director Michael Morell told the House Judiciary Committee in a closed-door interview that he organized a group of 50 former intelligence officials to sign the letter after discussions with Sec. of State Tony Blinken, who served on the Biden campaign. Republicans on the committee revealed details of the interview Thursday, in a letter to Blinken which claims the Biden campaign’s actions "had the effect of helping to suppress the Hunter Biden story and preventing American citizens from making a fully informed decision during the 2020 presidential election."
Morell said he organized the letter because he wanted Biden to win the election.
"There were two intents," Morell said. "One intent was to share our concern with the American people that the Russians were playing on this issue; and, two, it was [to] help Vice President Biden."
https://hubpages.com/forum/topic/post/358373
Is behaving as a fox, really a political game.
Men are political animsls. Old joe biden was wise to take advantage of the game...and take advantage of Trump.
With him to the court.
I think the SPLC has been transform just for evil purpose?
Perhaps... good intentions gone bad.
America has gone crazy, right is wrong, man is woman, being a proud American is racist, hating America makes you good, questioning your government makes you a terrorist... and its not going to get better anytime soon.
'Perhaps... good intentions gone bad'. God save America!
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