social-issues/begging-the-new-occupation

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   Venkatachari Mposted 11 months ago

   I went this article just now and found it to be an enlightening topic. It is a common issue encountered by us all in our daily lives.
   
   Here is the link to the article.
   https://soapboxie.com/social-issues/beg … occupation

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      tsmogposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting. One perspective. As the ending of the article states; "You be the judge". I will be the judge.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         I posted my opinion already in a question format at soapboxie.com

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            Venkatachari Mposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            It is good to see that this thread had been got changed into a Social Issues topic

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               Castlepalomaposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               It's both

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      Miebakagh57posted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I read the stuff with open mind, not because it's an interesting topic. But because it's a social question that balffled mankind for decades.                                   Beggars are very poor people. As the writer of the article had noted, the First Amendment, made provision for the panhanllers. So are the  Constitutions of other countries.                                  Critically, the  Great Depression, affect other continents- Africa Asia, and Europe. But before those days, people are bound to beg, because their either poor or unable to work due to their state of mind. It can be a mental defect not caused by drug, but poor health.                                       Interestly, here in my part of the world, I've seen 3 lawyers lost they health of mind and turn beggars.

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         theraggededgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         In the UK, there are professional beggars. They are often dropped off in town centres by a mini-bus in the morning. Some drive Mercedes and leave them parked a street away.
         
         Then again, we also have homeless ex-military men who have zero support from the country they served and the government should hang its head in shame as it puts illegal migrants in 4* hotels while ex-soldiers and teenagers shiver on the streets.

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            Miebakagh57posted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Bev, 'In the UK'? I can hardly beleve it.                          Is not Great Britain and Northern Ireland technologically advanced?                                       Don't those that hold power think (twice) that they're denting the image of the Nation-State? The United Kingdom to allow its ex-military personnels to rot in the streets, is unthinkable.                                   The UK that initiated the training, equiping, and ethnics of the Nigerian military never leave such a bad example. Here in Nigeria, every ex-service men, are on a military pension, and are well taken care of, even by deploy such as security to government establishments, in the name of Nigeria Legion.                                 But in the Shehu Shagari government years, many orphane-turned-beggars in the north of Nigeria, were transported in lorries, and dumped in the Southern Christian states. The Southern Governors responded by re-transporting the panhandles back to the North.

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               Nathanvilleposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               There is some truth in what Bev says, but perhaps a little embellished.  Homelessness in Britain has reached record heights in recent years, partly due to subtle changes in government policies under 12 years of Conservative rule; but it’s not as bad as in the USA e.g. we don’t have the ghettos in Britain.
               
               All too often the main reasons for becoming homeless in Britain (and no doubt a common problem worldwide) includes, but not exclusive to, drink and drugs, domestic abuse from a partner/spouse, homophobic parents chucking their gay teenager out, people not being able to cope with the responsibilities of holding down a job and paying their domestic bills etc. – and all too often those people in need (who could get help) not seeking free help and advice (out of ignorance or lack of thought) and just slipping into a downward spiral of life on the streets.
               
               Although for those who have a gift for begging, they can make good money on the streets begging – as this first video clip shows:-
               
               •    Homeless Man Earns £40 an Hour Begging on the Street https://youtu.be/TyRQgdIKj3o
               
               •    Homeless documentary: a week on the streets https://youtu.be/oyJAy1A9G7Q?
               
               As regarding war veterans, in the UK there is free government support for veterans and their families, including a helpline, Veterans Welfare Service, Defence Transition Services and injury/bereavement compensation scheme payments; and veterans may be given priority support for social housing (council housing); likewise, in the UK pregnant women, families with dependent children, and people homeless as a result of being a victim of domestic abuse are given priority housing by the government (local government) – Whether they (those in need) seek that free help and advice or not is another matter!

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                  Miebakagh57posted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Thank you, Arthur. Your post is a complement. It make the issue balanced.

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      Castlepalomaposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Did studied homelessness every where in North America about 15 years ago. The time Same I started building tiny houses and urban farming. Sold 8 tiny houses and own two.. Only things holding me from buildings homeless tiny house communities is the corrupted Government on all levels. Poverty is greatest killer of all. And being homeless in Canada for long enough, cuts a person life expectancy in half. And holds a death grip of a fourth world health condition.  I've only been able to pull a few people from falling through the cracks of homelessness..
      Most people could easily become homeless  when your barely making ends meet.

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   PaulGoodman67posted 11 months ago

   "New occupation"?
   
   Surely, people have been begging for thousands of years?
   
   If it's a discussion of the topic rather than the writing, this thread should be in another category. I've requested HP move it to social issues.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I posted this thread with the link to the article as a piece of community news so that others can view it and comment on the article. But it got deviated into a social issue topic.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         And, that's why I put my opinion on the concerned network itself.

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         Brenda Arledgeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         I did post on the article but quite honestly i dont like doing that because the author doesn't get notifications.
         They do here...if they see it and follow it.

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         Miebakagh57posted 11 months agoin reply to this

         The deviation is aptly welcome because begging, is a social question.

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   jansharesposted 11 months ago

   Thanks for posting, Venkatachari. I read the article and left a comment. As someone who has been feeding the homeless for 30 years at my church, I had a lot to say. I found the author's tone critical and lacking true compassion. Anyway, to each his own.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, the tone was a bit satirical. I felt it too. I try to help the really deserving people with whatever I can offer them.

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   Brenda Arledgeposted 11 months ago

   Our little town puts a stop to these people.  The police offers them a ride to community action to see if they can be of assistance...if they refuse they are asked to leave.
   
   As for nearby towns, I see them all the time.
   Sadly...some of them make more money doing this thsn actually working at a job.
   
   As for that violin...i really don't blame the person for holding on to it.  It might be the key to getting the family back on their feet.  Alot of clubs welcome people to play for tips.
   
   I personally have helped but I have also refused to help.  I will take some one to a restaurant or grocery store...but I will not hand them money.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, it is both ways. The true beggars and the somewhat businesslike ones.
      But, sometimes, I contribute some nominal donations to childhelp organizations, etc. Some small alms to the street beggars as well those sitting at temple entrances also.
      It gives me a satisfaction that I am able to "contribute to the moon's light by offering a white thread" as our saying goes.

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