Truth With Humor - John Cleese - The Advantages of Extremism

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  1. GA Anderson profile image89
    GA Andersonposted 8 weeks ago

    Just because it's funny doesn't mean it's not true. Of course, none of 'us' fit his description, but some 'other' folks sure do.
    https://hubstatic.com/16975341.jpg

    As a side note, not all moderates smoke pipes. I only smoke one occasionally.
      ;-)

    GA

    1. tsmog profile image84
      tsmogposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      A good giggle with a treasure of truths hidden shall we say with humor. I noted it was from 16 years ago. Who was running for president then - McCain and Obama? A pivotal time in history as is 2020, right?

      As an aside way back when in college for psychology 101, we were taught the easiest way to raise self-esteem is to compare yourself with someone else. I imagine that goes for group dynamics as well.

      BTW . . . teach me sometime how to have the video image appear on the actual OP post. I know how to post a link for a video and a link for an image, which does show on the OP post, but not a video with an image.

      1. GA Anderson profile image89
        GA Andersonposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

        I include images by importing them (using camera icon). Get the image address by a right-click, "copy image link address" then paste it in the import URL space.

        Or, if you want the whole screen image (or any part of it) - like an X post, use a screen-grabber tool. It's an extension for Chrome (
        "UploadCC: Screen Capture Tool (Share or Save)"

        This extension lets you define what you want to capture and download. Then you use the camera icon and choose "upload" image.

        Frame the image text, [img]whatever URL[/img], with [url=]whatever URL and close with[/url]  after the close image tag to make it clickable.

        GA

        1. tsmog profile image84
          tsmogposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          Thanks, GA!! I will play with it in the wee hours of the morning to hopefully master it.

    2. Ken Burgess profile image77
      Ken Burgessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      What side do you belong to when you want to blame most of those listed on both of those lists?

      1. GA Anderson profile image89
        GA Andersonposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

        You belong in the Middle if you think both sides are wrong.  The Middle isn't a narrow band of the spectrum, it's the widest. It is the fringe extremes that are the narrow bands.

        GA

        1. Credence2 profile image77
          Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          GA,

          In today's political climate "the middle" has to be properly defined. Mr. Clease makes it appear as if the entire world is based upon ideological opposed extremes.

          Acceptance of either extreme ideological pole is not true of most people. But by the choice of how many extreme position you take on either side, you begin to define yourself. As the vast majority do not accept the extreme of either pole. Like I said, there is not true "middle" that can walk in between the raindrops without getting wet. This "middle" has this sterile pretense and is basically non existent in today's world.

          The idea of middle America presented by you and Ken, is not the middle but just more right wing advocacy, cleverly disguised as to not to be offensive.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image77
            Ken Burgessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

            big_smile AKA  'If you aren't with us you are against us!'

            1. Credence2 profile image77
              Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

              Is that what I said?


              Middle America is contrasted with the more culturally progressive, urban areas of the country, particularly, those of the East and West Coasts. The conservative values considered typical of Middle America (often called "family values" in American politics) are often called "Middle American values".[1][failed verification][2]


              In the United States, the banner of "family values" has been used by social conservatives to express opposition to abortion, birth control, environmentalism, feminism, pornography, comprehensive sex education, divorce, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, civil unions, secularism, and atheism.

              Not so much of a great fit for many of us, is it?

            2. GA Anderson profile image89
              GA Andersonposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

              Damn. I just paraphrased that. I didn't copy, I promise. I saw this afterward. ;-)

              Ga

          2. GA Anderson profile image89
            GA Andersonposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

            That's a bunch of malarky Cred. You won't let yourself see a "Middle" because you have chosen a side and if anyone isn't with you they are against you.

            You fit Cleeses' 16-year-old point to a tee. What he said then is even more right now. Your repeated view that the Middle "walks between the raindrops' tells on you. It's not that we don't get wet, it's that we don't splash in the mud puddles.

            You're right that I try not to be offensive, but it's certainly not because I am promoting cleverly disguised right-wing advocacy. Or because I am a right-winger. Yet, in your book, I am both because I disagree with you. Geesh, you still can't see the forest.

            GA

            1. Credence2 profile image77
              Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

              Well, excuse me for living….

              Middle America is contrasted with the more culturally progressive, urban areas of the country, particularly, those of the East and West Coasts. The conservative values considered typical of Middle America (often called "family values" in American politics) are often called "Middle American values".[1][failed verification][2]


              In the United States, the banner of "family values" has been used by social conservatives to express opposition to abortion, birth control, environmentalism, feminism, pornography, comprehensive sex education, divorce, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, civil unions, secularism, and atheism.

              On the second paragraph, I conditionally support all of these things, yet all this is opposed by what is considered  “Middle America”. Yes, when looking at the definitions, I have chosen a side. But beyond Petticoat Junction, is it really unreasonable in 2024?

              1. GA Anderson profile image89
                GA Andersonposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                Yes, it is as unreasonable in 2024 as it ever was. That you are stuck on 'Mayberry' and 'Petticoat junction' points to you not understanding that. It's not about locales or times it's about values.

                Did you really have to look up "Middle America" to know what it means to you? You shouldn't be so confident that Middle Americans oppose all on your list. We see a lot of middle ground on most of them. You don't see it because of that 'forest' problem you have.  ;-)

                GA

                1. Credence2 profile image77
                  Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Is it unreasonable in 2024? Well,  I Say YES.

                  No one going to live under those terms anymore, it was interesting that under another thread I began to appreciate the fundamental differences between red and blue. You require voters to jump through your hoops as a precondition to a franchise that is their right as American citizens. There has to be some prequalification of merit for everything except for the 5 year old to get his first rifle.

                  I presented the definition, I suppose you can debate how inclusive it is, ad nauseam.

                  It is not that I resist your ideas because they are not mine, it is coming to a reality that you and Ken are on a different planet relative to my values and opinions. It is not likely that we will every see much from an eye to eye standpoint. Your so called middle is my muddle.

                  But That's OK. I am gracious enough to absorb it all.

                  1. GA Anderson profile image89
                    GA Andersonposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                    "A prequalification of merit"

                    That doesn't sound like a bad thing. Achievement and advancement of anything probably include some effort of merit. Surely you don't disagree with that. Think of all the historical examples in your world alone.

                    However, my perspective of the right is that of a privilege to be appreciated, not an entitlement to be expected. I'm not asking anyone to be constrained by it. I think it would benefit us all if everyone did, but hey, it's a free country, right?

                    And it was 6-years-old. I was six before I got my first rifle. And I did have to earn it, there was some meritorious effort required—I had to follow the rules. Did you forget that part of the story? ;-)

                    GA

  2. abwilliams profile image69
    abwilliamsposted 8 weeks ago

    GA, I could so see you taking on the role of John Cleese and reenacting this!
    Extreme ↔️ Wishy-Washy  wink

    This made me smile.

    1. GA Anderson profile image89
      GA Andersonposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      Thanks??? (not sure about the "wish-washy" part.

      GA  ;-)

  3. Readmikenow profile image93
    Readmikenowposted 8 weeks ago

    He did provide some good food for thought.

    I would like to point out the fact that this was made 16 years ago speaks to its brilliance.

    It illustrates an old saying that goes, "Time Change but people don't"

  4. IslandBites profile image88
    IslandBitesposted 8 weeks ago

    Funny how time changes things, according to the video.

    Now Left and Right enemies: judges, various newspaper owners

    Now Right: public school

    No longer Right: Russia

 
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