Physicians Bribed To Give Covid Shots

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  1. Readmikenow profile image84
    Readmikenowposted 13 months ago

    It is true. 
    I saw an article about it and looked into it further.  I then saw a posted pay scale based on how many people received the Covid shot.
    I was a bit shocked.

    Here is the article.

    Cardiologist reveals how much doctors got bribed to push COVID shots
    Leaked insurance documents back him up: 'The insurance companies are juicing the system'

    https://www.wnd.com/2024/05/cardiologis … vid-shots/

    Here is one bonus pay scale for Kentucky.

    How you can qualify for a bonus

    If your practice meets the below thresholds for vaccination with at least one dose by September 1, 2021, you will receive the initial incentive payment based on the following rates:

    30% Anthem members vaccinated – $20 bonus per vaccinated member
    40% Anthem members vaccinated – $45 bonus per vaccinated member
    50% Anthem members vaccinated – $70 bonus per vaccinated member
    60% Anthem members vaccinated – $100 bonus per vaccinated member
    75% Anthem members vaccinated – $125 bonus per vaccinated member


    The final incentive payment is calculated based on members who are newly vaccinated between September 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 (click here to view the Appendix for calculation examples). If your practice meets the below thresholds for vaccination with at least one dose by December 1, 2021, you will receive the final incentive payment based on the following rates:

    https://providernews.anthem.com/kentuck … ogram-9502

  2. Valeant profile image75
    Valeantposted 13 months ago

    Here's an article from 2017.  Apparently, there have been incentive bonuses from as far back as that year as well.  What your media sources call 'bribes.'  I guess you didn't do any searches on the topic, now did you?

    https://www.popsugar.com/family/doctor- … s-42575027

    Here's another one from last year on the topic, which is not new and was started by the liars at the Gateway Pundit (RIP):

    https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-i … 5246681418

    1. Readmikenow profile image84
      Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Financial incentives to physicians to talk patients into taking an experimental vaccine.  A vaccine that on itself caused many deaths and physical harm to hundreds of thousands of people.

      Why should physicians make money from insurance companies simply for doing their job?

      This doesn't seem like practicing medicine.  It seem like physicians are being turned into drug company/insurance company shills.

  3. Nathanville profile image87
    Nathanvilleposted 13 months ago

    Only in America

    1. Readmikenow profile image84
      Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      "Only in America"

      Not really.

      "UK doctors paid $64 million by drug companies in 2013"

      LONDON (Reuters) - Doctors in Britain were paid 38.5 million pounds ($64 million) by drugmakers last year, slightly less than 2012, according to new data underscoring the links between the pharmaceutical industry and prescribers. Industry payments to doctors have come under increased scrutiny following a number of scandals over sales practices, notably in the United States, and concerns that such ties could put commercial interests ahead of the best outcome for patients. The figure, announced by the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (ABPI) on Thursday, was slightly down on the 2012 level of 40 million pounds. Criticism of the close relationship between doctors and drug firms has prompted some companies to rethink how they operate.

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/uk-doctors-p … nance.html



      How much should patients know about pharma payments to doctors?

      Pharmaceutical companies opting in to a code of practice are having details of their payments to healthcare professionals made public – but does the database go far enough?

      Pharmaceutical firms currently pay about £40m every year to healthcare professionals, including doctors and pharmacists. These payments could be for anything from expert advice to sponsoring a healthcare professional’s medical education. Now, the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (ABPI) has created a central database, going live in June, on which its member companies, and others that have signed up to comply with the ABPI code of practice, will disclose who these payments are made to, and for what. At the same time, Jeremy Hunt’s “sunshine rule” will make it mandatory for NHS staff to declare gifts received from drug companies.

      https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare- … s-database

      1. Nathanville profile image87
        Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Yes really:

        To start with - Neither of the articles links you gave me has anything to do with doctors being bribed to give the covid shots – which is the subject of this forum.

        Also, your Reuters article is slightly muddled in that it talks predominately about the USA, but then throws in a facts in about the NHS that are not directly related.

        Your Guardian article could be misread if you only read the first few paragraphs, and not the whole article, and also if you’re not aware of how the NHS functions (which as an American you wouldn’t be).

        I’ll first cover the ‘sunshine rule’ before going into detail about the heart of the issue.  The sunshine rule mentioned in the article is a distraction from the facts in that it is just a trivial matter that has nothing to do with the main article, and as a public employee NHS have always been under the same rules of all UK government employees in that receiving ‘gifts’ and ‘hospitality’ from the private sector has always been legally classified as ‘bribery and corruption’; which is why as a civil servant I could only receive small items like a calendar or pen, and only if such items were clearly marked with the Companies Logo.  All that the sunshine rule does is to introduce a ‘register’ into the NHS whereby NHS declares that they’ve received such gifts – just like MPs the ‘register of interests’ in Parliament.

        Getting onto the main points:  Unlike the USA, in the UK:-

        •    Doctors and pharmacists in the UK are government employees, and as such don’t handle any money or drugs directly.

        •    NHS Doctors and pharmacists are paid directly by the government, as government employees.

        •    It’s not the doctors who pay any of the bills for the premises, equipment or drugs; all that is paid by the government – and each NHS Practice or Hospital have Admin teams to deal with that sort of thing.  Before my wife retired from the NHS she worked in such an Admin team.

        Also, unlike the USA, in the UK:-

        •    NHS doctors, even senior hospital doctors (Consultants), have no authority to procure (buy) drugs; and any drugs they prescribe to patients has to be approved and issued by their NHS pharmacist – for example:

        After spending three weeks in hospital a few years ago, the hospital doctor (Consultant) wanted to prescribe about a dozen different drugs to aid my recover, but I had to wait a couple of hours before my wife could take me home, to give time for the NHS hospital pharmacist to approve my prescription - it’s a system of ‘double check’ to reduce the risk of errors or mistakes e.g. as well as the doctors, the pharmacists also have access to the patients’ medical records so that they can double check that the combination of drugs the doctor is prescribing to you are likely to be safe for you (the individual). 

        After about a year of treatment my NHS hospital Consultant (doctor) was able to take me off most of the drugs as I got better; leaving just about 3 when I was finally discharged from hospital aftercare e.g. the NHS hospital handing my care back to the my local doctor.  And another year later (once I’d made a near full recover), it wasn’t my local NHS doctor who took my off the rest of the drugs, it was my local NHS’s doctor’s pharmacist who phoned me up, and after a chat with her over the phone, she decided (not my doctor) that I no longer needed the drugs (medication).

        NICE (The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence)
        In the UK, unlike the USA, the NHS has no authority to choose what drugs to buy from Pharmaceutical companies; it’s NICE (The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence) that has that power.  NICE is an independent Government Department that decides what drugs the NHS can and can’t use, and it’s NICE that negotiates the purchase of such drugs with Pharmaceutical companies (on behalf of the NHS) – and with a customer base of over 66 million, NICE has a lot of negotiation power, and is a tough negotiator; and therefore almost always gets generous discounts on the price of drugs from Pharmaceutical companies e.g. the cost of drugs for the NHS from Pharmaceutical companies is a lot cheaper than the Pharmaceutical companies charge USA doctors and hospitals.

        How NICE makes decisions:  https://youtu.be/z5k5JWmR4Hc

        WHO Then GETS THE £40 MILLION PER YEAR?
        Individual NHS doctors are not paid the £40 million into their personal bank accounts (that would be bribery and corruption – which is a serious criminal offence), and as government employees individual doctors don’t have anything to do with the finances (that’s done by NHS Admin teams). 

        If you actually read the ‘entire’ Guardian article (and not just the opening paragraphs), it does make it quite clear further down the article that Pharmaceutical companies are keen to finance clinical trials of new drugs in the NHS, and even supply the drugs free for the clinical trials (that’s where the £40 million per year goes). 

        It’s in the interests of Pharmaceutical companies to finance trials in the NHS and supply the drugs for free for the trials; because if the trials are successful, then it’s solid evidence which the Pharmaceutical companies can present to NICE to try to encourage NICE to allow the drug to be approved for use in the NHS, which with a 66 million customer base is a lucrative market for any drug that NICE approves.

        In NHS trials, it’s not doctors that run individual clinical trials; it’s NHS hospitals that partnership with universities (in their local area) to do the medical research jointly.  The NHS hospital where my wife worked in Admin (the BRI) is in partnership with Bristol University for research and training; and so my wife (as an Admin worker within the NHS) did do some of the admin on various NHS/University clinical trials – The Bristol Stool Chart (which is now used worldwide) being one of the joint NHS/University research projects that my wife’s boss (a doctor) was proud to be involved in developing.

        What is the Bristol Stool Chart?  https://youtu.be/hCTuV-pltfc

        1. Readmikenow profile image84
          Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          In the UK and the USA physicians receive payments directly from drug companies for pushing their product.

          It's the same in Australia, New Zealand, etc.

          In that way, the USA and UK are the same.

          If you put in a little effort there are hundreds of articles about UK physicians getting payments directly from drug companies.

          It's a common practice. I even came across an column where  UK physician thought the payments from the drugs companies should be increased.

          Look into it, you'll be amazed at what you find.

          1. Nathanville profile image87
            Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Yeah right - and you think you know better from  what you read than my wife who worked in the NHS, and from my local knowledge from living here - and you completely ignore the role of NICE, and ignore the fact that doctors in the UK are government employees who don’t have direct control over the finances - and ignore the  fact that it’s not the NHS doctors who authorise the subscriptions in the NHS but the pharmacist's.

            I think you are misinterpreting what you read or reading misleading articles.

            1. Valeant profile image75
              Valeantposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              'I think you are misinterpreting what you read or reading misleading articles.'

              This happens a lot with this particular person.

          2. Nathanville profile image87
            Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Further, you’ve given no evidence that NHS doctors get bribes to give Covid jabs (the subject of this forum) and that is because you can’t - because it’s not the doctors who make that decision  - the NHS sets the policy on who and when the covid jabs are offered - National NHS policy.

  4. GoldenRod LM profile image76
    GoldenRod LMposted 13 months ago

    Should we be praising Jeremy Hunt? Serious question.

    1. Nathanville profile image87
      Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      In what way do you mean?

 
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