Equality and Equity. What say you?

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   tsmogposted 8 months ago

   This OP post is meant just to be a landing post for open discussion on equality and equity in any facet one decides. At Facebook, Pinterest, and elsewhere an image is being circulated to explain the differences.
   
   
   
   True?
   False?
   Unsure?
   Interesting?
   
   Thoughts, criticisms, accolades, and/or commentary?

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      Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      OK... The issue is not a fence at a baseball game...
      
      Its about being able to rescue people from a burning building as a firefighter.
      
      Its about being able to comprehend international law and negotiate with a foreign nation.
      
      Its about being a member of a SEAL Team and navigating through enemy territory to rescue a downed pilot, injured, who needs to be carried out to a safe PZ that is 30 miles from the crash sight.
      
      Its about accepting reality that some people cannot fill positions and accomplish things that others can... that Equity is nothing more than racism, quotas, and destabilizing the society that we live in.
      
      As GA said in another post, in another thread, in reaction to one of your posts... "There are no countries with no underprivileged, just as there are no countries without an elite level.
      
      As representatives of a human group, I think America, in our continued development, has done a good job, relative to helping the underprivileged."
      
      Do you think it's possible to build the best Football team in the world and practice Equity?  Isn't it one or the other... you cannot achieve both?
      
      We have crossed a line...
      
      A line between doing good and moving things forward for the benefit of humanity... for the advancement toward a better society/civilization... to fracturing societal cohesion, harming the development of healthy children, engaging in wars that are needlessly slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people and causing unjust suffering to millions more.
      
      We have crossed several obvious lines in the last 4 years... and we are fraying at the seams from all that has been thrown at us from 2020-2024.
      
      I don't think we survive another 4 continuing in this direction... I think America is "transformed" into something new, permanently and forever as far as what we will see in our remaining lifetimes.

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         tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

         Thanks for contributing your feedback.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 8 months ago

   Makes it easy to see the differences.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

   "The overwhelming majority of voters believe inequality is too high and that the wealthy have too much power and fail to promote the common good."
   
   Interesting article:
   https://americancompass.org/the-five-de … -the-left/

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      tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      I skimmed the article and will read it tonight after midnight when I awaken. It is bookmarked. It looks interesting, though has a strong bias from my excursion here and there.
      
      There is an old saying I was taught by my grandfather. The difference between right and wrong is what is left. I always laugh when thinking about that with a political light, though he did not mean in that way at all.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

   " If “fairness” is the goal, through these two methods of equity and equality, we can achieve it.
   
   Equity, means everyone is provided with resources specific to their needs to be successful.
   
   Equality on the other hand, means everyone is treated the same exact way, regardless of a person’s needs or other individual differences.
   
   For example, in equity, the coach takes into consideration the specific needs of each player’s position on the team, and provides the shoes they need to be successful.
   
   Furthermore, in the concept of equality, a coach gives all the players the exact same shoes without consideration of the specific needs of their positions on the team."
   
   From:
   https://www.afimsc.af.mil/Portals/89/Do … miAg%3D%3D

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 months ago

   Equality is when everyone is allowed to take opportunities 
   for their own personal benefit.
   vs
   Equity is when everyone is given what they need, (as though there were no opportunities to get it for themselves,) for their benefit.

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      Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      That is how it is defined perhaps, but we know that is not how it is implemented, it's pretty wording, like wrapping paper put on a box to hide what it is.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 8 months ago

   Hi, Tim. That image portrays a true picture of whatever is there in our societies. Equality and Equity are a bit ambiguous and confusing terms. Both can mean the same thing when viewed as a concept. It depends upon our perceptions. The comments provided by our friends here tell that thing.

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