Musk to NYT columnist calling for ‘overthrow’ of the Constitution
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/09/03 … n-1484487/
The Constitution has always been the ultimate goal of the progressive left, a key obstacle that prevents them from “fundamentally transforming” America into something more to their liking and they are now getting bold enough to say it.
With polling beginning to consistently suggest that newly installed Democratic nominee Kamala Harris may win the popular vote in November but fall short to Republican nominee Donald Trump as a result of the Electoral College, the radical left has set their sites on the Constitution for establishing a system that prevents a “democratic mob” from dictating the outcome of presidential elections via the popular vote.
Enter the New York Times, which drew the scorn of billionaire Elon Musk when it ran a piece titled, “The Constitution Is Sacred. Is It Also Dangerous?”
Stating the obvious, Musk posted on X, the social media platform he owns, “They want to overthrow The Constitution.”
Constitution is dangerously outdated
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/ … -minority/
The New York Times is at it again.
“The Constitution Is Sacred. Is It Also Dangerous? One of the biggest threats to America’s politics might be the country’s founding document.”
It’s the usual collection of gripes about the functioning of the Electoral College and the Senate, of the sort that feature regularly in Democratic and media tantrums when they don’t get their way; willful misunderstandings of the motivations and methods of originalism; and arguments that the Constitution is hopelessly tainted by slavery... arguments that rest on a fair amount of mythologizing about how we got the Electoral College.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/t … iss-again/
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/31/book … risis.htmlKen, here is my unfiltered view ---
For over a few decade now, the Democrats have been on a relentless quest to denature or outright rewrite the Constitution, or tear it up. It kicked into a turbo-charged acceleration since Obama took office. It seems their goal has shifted from mere tinkering to a full-scale assault, with plans to toss the Constitution in the trash and replace it with their vision of a utopian New America, or as some of us would argue, a Marxist community ready to grovel before a bloated government, with hands out.
Enter Joe Biden, who was heralded as the Golden Boy destined to usher in this brave new world, but whose stumbling presidency might just have been more of a setback than a stepping stone. Obama's third term failed. With Biden's failures evident, the Democrats appear to be pulling out all the stops, spinning a web of lies to propel what critics describe as a brainless airhead into the White House. Meanwhile, Trump seems to be defying the odds, with the electoral college potentially tilting in his favor.
The Democrats are deploying every trick in the book to dismantle him, but there’s a lingering image of Trump rising from the fray, fists up, defiantly shouting, “Fight !”Can you explain the "fight?"
What it means and what action is required?The complexities ...
It is so difficult to get to a point where the issues can be discussed, and I believe this is by design.
Lets take our country's wonderful history on race...
RACE – THE POWER OF AN ILLUSION How the Racial Wealth Gap Was Created
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvY3Ok6YpbU
Race and Whiteness in the Era of Trumpism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6myUwP3wPfs
Now for the sake of argument lets say all the above is 100% correct and needs to be addressed.
Add to that going further back, colonialism, slavery... part of 'The West' history.
So understanding all that... the issue is not that those are real gripes. They are legitimate. The issue is those gripes are being used to undermine and destroy the very system that was working to make up for those wrongs... but not for something that is going to be more benevolent or beneficial to any of us, white or black or whatever.
Does that make sense to you?
Legitimate issues are being used to garner support... for a Party whose plans are to destroy the Nation state as we know it, creating a world without nationality or citizenship, other than a global citizenship... run on CBDC, where assets, property rights, right to protect one's own life will be stripped from us all over the course of, at best, a generation... at worst, a matter of years, if the right crisis is created.
Hidden behind the censorship of people for using hateful words based on race or gender, hidden behind the efforts to bring in millions of migrants, is the greater goal of tearing down everything based on Western ideals and National Patriotism.
The frustrating thing is how the democrats refuse to understand the Constitution.
It is an amazing document that has stood the test of time.
Why don't democrats like the Constitution?
Because it keeps them from always having things their way. I've posted numerous articles about the problems with straight majority rule. It would break up the country. Smaller states with less population do now and should always have a say and influence in national politics. I have had more than one democrat look at me and say how they would have no problem if New York and California ruled the country because of their populations. They don't get how other states could band together and the country would again be in a Civil War.
The frustration of trying to explain that we don't live in a democracy but a representative republic is exhausting.
Rather than try and understand the value and importance of the US Constitution, the democrats would rather subvert it, ignore it, or remove it.
If this sacred document is ignored or removed, we as a country, will exist no more.Its because so many fail to see and accept what is happening right in front of their eyes.
The United Nations posts its Agendas, its Goals... how the march to transform society is going, how they partnered with the World Economic Forum in 2019...
Nothing is hidden, the goals are written albeit in polite, eloquent verbiage.
There are individuals as well as corporate entities and financial institutions that are wealthier than almost all Nations in the world.
They are international, they have no loyalty to any nation, there is no Nation that can control them... they are the ones controlling not just our politicians, but the Lifers in DC that roam the Halls of the CIA, FBI, Pentagon, etc.
They want to rewrite society, redo civilization, to better suit their needs.
Its as simple as that.
There is no interest in protecting or preserving your Rights to property, to protection, to Liberty, to Justice, to being a Citizen of America.
Ken, I just listened to Trump's speech at the Economic Club of New York a few hours ago, and he did an impressive job outlining his economic plans and how he intends to implement them. He faced some tough questions, and I was surprised at how well he handled them. Even when he didn’t tell people what they wanted to hear, his answers were detailed and thorough.
He also announced that Elon Musk has agreed to lead a commission to conduct a financial audit of the federal government, aiming to save trillions of dollars. In my opinion, Trump presented some solid solutions to our economic challenges.
He also addressed Harris's plans, highlighting the potential negative consequences they could have for America.
CSPAN has full-speech https://www.c-span.org/video/?538141-1/ … -club-yorkI don't know, he was extremely low energy, slurring and stammering. A lot of word salad.
Question to Trump...
What specific legislation will you commit to make child care affordable?
Trump:
"well I would do that and we're sitting down, you know I was somebody we had Marco Rubio and my daughter Ivanka but that I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about that because the child care is, child care couldn't you know there's something you have to have it in this country, you have to have it. I want to stay with child care... so we'll take care of it, thank you.
This is straight up gibberish. He never answered the question.
I don't think he put two sentences together coherently at any time.
He had a teleprompter, I don't understand why he was so disjointed.
He really didn't answer any of the questions on policy. I don't think he understands it or anything about government for that matter. He kept changing the subject to how wonderful he is.
He didn't answer the second question, he misunderstood the third question and talked about trade deficits instead of tax deficits. How did these people even remotely take him seriously? He went way off topic on all of them.
But ultimately, I can't take someone seriously who believes that sex change operations are happening in our schools.
https://x.com/SwissWatchGuy/status/1831770120202678386Link, please, showing Trump saying ANY kind of surgery, sex change or other, is happening in our schools?
Here's what happens to the "childs" as he calls them.
https://youtu.be/5DkM0l2osSo?si=RMEH2M_g2rOGSXvrI'll take your word for it - for some reason the volume is far too low to hear anything at all. But thanks for the link.
“The transgender thing is incredible,” Trump said. “Think of it. Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what’s going to happen with your child and you know many of these childs [sic] 15 years later say, ‘What the hell happened? Who did this to me?’ They say, ‘Who did this to me?’ It’s incredible.”
https://youtu.be/CB1GMgNu8XY?si=xvRnKOO … &t=120I cannot believe this is not getting more coverage. Harris is held to a standard of absolute perfection while Trump can spread these lies, blather incoherently and cough up word salad like he did yesterday at the economic club of New York when speaking about childcare.
See, it makes so much more sense to hide out in the basement and say nothing at all... or as little as possible.
Harris, and Biden before her, have the right way of doing things... interviews and appearances only give the haters things to hate on and point to reasons for hating you more.
Sit back, let the Media promote you and denigrate your opponent, they are doing your work for you; keep your plans and agendas, when you are forced to appear in public, as general and vague as possible.Yeah, if you want to accuse schools of doing sex change operations, maybe you need to stay in your basement.
Do you believe his accusations? Does he have proof? Do you believe that someone who makes such accusations, such irresponsible and dangerous statements belongs in the White House?
Let's not ignore the content of what Trump said. This is probably one of the most deranged things he has ever uttered.
"Sit back, let the Media promote you and denigrate your opponent"
He doesn't deserve scrutiny or criticism for this bizarre and blatant lie?Nowhere in the link does Trump say the school is doing surgery. The bigger question is why people are making such a silly and false accusation. Is it just to run Trump down, to demonize him, or do they really think Trump thinks there is an OR in every school, hidden from the public, doing surgery on student patients? (The answer is no, he doesn't in case you wish to explode THAT as well.)
let the Media promote you and denigrate your opponent
A transcript and actual video. So Trump denigrates himself, I guess?
LOL
Thanks. Not sure what was said before that point - was the discussion about schools respecting the privacy of the student in what they wished to do, or in setting up a surgical operating room in the school? It does make a difference, given the claim about what Trump said.
One I would not support, one is just silly - an excuse to once again claim Trump said something he didn't.The woman from Mom's for Liberty was discussing transgenderism in Elon musk's family. Trump was asked what he would do about transgenderism.
I'm not sure why folks here aren't looking at the interview. Here it is. If you don't want to listen to all of the nonsensical blather that comes before, skip to 1:53:00
https://www.youtube.com/live/eu7njwOrsC … dslXLsojuLI dunno - I just skimmed from the point on for a while but heard nothing about schools running an OR for surgery on students.
Lol. They go to school, and come back later with an operation.... What do you think that implies?
It is more important to listen to the full before and after the statement in question. One can find the full interview online CSPAN. THis is once again the media taking one part of his statement and blowing it into something they hope will make good slop.
Before the statement in question, he was discussing how school boards should not have authority over parents, particularly when it comes to decisions about gender reassignment. His remark was hyperbolic, presenting a "what if" scenario about what could happen if school boards were given too much power in decision-making. To fully understand, it's important to listen to the entire context. Yes, he exaggerated the outcome, suggesting a situation where a child could go to school, undergo a sex change, and return home days later, illustrating his point about the dangers of school boards having excessive control.And that sounds more reasonable - the original claim always did seem an outright lie, trying to get people to believe something that was not true.
Before the statement in question, he was discussing how school boards should not have authority over parents, particularly when it comes to decisions about gender reassignment. His remark was hyperbolic, presenting a "what if" scenario about what could happen if school boards were given too much power in decision-making. To fully understand, it's important to listen to the entire context. Yes, he exaggerated the outcome, suggesting a situation where a child could go to school, undergo a sex change, and return home days later, illustrating his point about the dangers of school boards having excessive control.
This is not the first time that the media has tried to take a comment out of context and try to warp it to fit their TDS.
This won't be the last time. I love it when the media shares a collection of one-sentence Trump quotes, but all lack full context behind each statement. This type of media may resonate with some, but not with those who seek a more complete understanding of Trump's views. In my opinion, this is how misinformation begins.
TDS. The symptoms, divert away from full context, look here not there, and don't question what we dish up. And get out and spread the one-liners that we have dished up.Have you watched the Moms For Liberty interview with Trump? ? This has nothing to do with media.
No, thanks for pointing that out as I am watching it now.
I certainly do not agree with Trumps stance on abortion but certainly do not support the candidate that has announced that she is in favor of murder of innocent children and does not believe that states should even be allowed to comment on this.Well, you will hear him clearly state that our schools are performing sex change operations. He is not joking. There is no further context around the statement that changes it's meaning. It couldn't be more clear.
Trump is a man with a mind in rapid decline.
As far as abortion, his support of the procedure will cost him the votes of many evangelicals.
But notice in the interview with liberty for moms, he never directly answers any questions.Doc,
It’s worth noting that Harris refers to abortion as "reproductive health," a term that shifts away from the centuries-old connotation traditionally associated with abortion.
Trump has shifted from his earlier position on abortion. When asked about the change during a town hall (paraphrased), he explained that as president, he had to represent all Americans, which meant setting aside his personal views, and he also indicated he felt laws should be made in individual states by the majority.
"we had Marco Rubio and my daughter Ivanka but that I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about that because the child care is, child care couldn't you know there's something you have to have it in this country, you have to have it. I want to stay with child care... so we'll take care of it, thank you."
First --- The childcare question was well-phrased and poignant. However, the answer likely wasn't what the woman asking it wanted to hear. I believe she was hoping for a concrete solution to the childcare issue, but it became clear to me that Trump either doesn't have a plan in place or doesn't see it as a priority at the moment. That's what I got from the exchange. While I don't have a personal stance on childcare, I don't believe it should be the responsibility of taxpayers to cover the cost. So, I am good with him not making a promise he won't keep on childcare. I would think he would realize it's a promise only Congress could make...
To move on --- I couldn't identify the quote you mentioned. I re-listened to the video this morning, and while the elements of your quote seem to be there, they are presented in a way that feels disjointed, with sentences out of order. Please take a moment to carefully listen to the video again.
For example, the line regarding Ivanka and Rubio --- He said and I quote "We had Marco Rubio and my daughter Ivanka working on that, it's a very impactful on that issue, it's a very important issue" It would seen his statements were cut short, and just seamed together to present something other then what he share.
I listened to the speech live and found it impactful. I truely appreciate his agenda on the economy. He shared his plans and took questions with a professional demeanor, fitting for his audience of economists. This contrasted with his more relaxed approach in interviews, rallies, or town halls. I find he does his best when he is live without a teleprompter.
Link to speech question enter at 1.15 --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekGoeX5AW4wYes, I believe you are correct that the woman asking the child care question wanted to know if Trump had a policy. He did not clearly identify any such policy. Are we to assume he has none? I don't know. I suppose so.
"While I don't have a personal stance on childcare, I don't believe it should be the responsibility of taxpayers to cover the cost. So, I am good with him not making a promise he won't keep on childcare.
I appreciate this candid answer. Is Harris stating that she would like taxpayers to fund child care in full? Or some sort of tax subsidies? Affordable child care is a real need and issue for a substantial number of families. I, for one, I would like to see it addressed in some manner.
I did watch the whole speech and read the transcript of the quote I provided. I apologize for cutting it for the sake of brevity. I don't believe any context was lost. It was posted by IB in full. In its entirety, it makes no more sense. The same can be said of his other answers, very long, lacking substance and even nonsensical.
His teleprompter speech was rough but for me, it was really clear he doesn't have command of the issues in order to talk off the prompter. The question portion of the event, was a train wreck. Particularly when you look back at the transcript."I appreciate this candid answer. Is Harris stating that she would like taxpayers to fund child care in full? Or some sort of tax subsidies? Affordable child care is a real need and issue for a substantial number of families. I, for one, I would like to see it addressed in some manner."
During her campaign, Harris has proposed several childcare programs that would require taxpayer funding while speaking at rallies - Some of these include: All would require Tax dollars.
Expanded Childcare Subsidies: Increasing funds for financial support for low- and middle-income families to help cover the costs of childcare.
Free Universal Pre-K: Implementing funding for programs to provide free preschool education to all children, regardless of income.
Increased Funding for Childcare Centers: Providing additional funds to improve the quality and accessibility of childcare centers, including support for staff wages and facilities.
Tax Credits for Childcare Expenses: Enhancing existing tax credits to offer more substantial relief to families paying for childcare.
I can respect our differences in issues. I look at her proposals as socialist programs.
Regarding Trump's speech, I found it informative, and he laid out his plans, and how he hopes to initiate them. I am fully on board with his agenda for the economy. He does tend to sound rough when on a teleprompter. I don't think he is the kind of man who likes to read someone else's words.Love the Harris proposals in terms of tax credits for child care expenses and especially universal Pre-K. The documented benefits of pre-K are substantial. An investment like that in our kids, is an investment in the future. Tax credits for child care? That helps parents stay in the workforce. I think that means more stability for families and probably less poverty. I'm all for it.
As always respect your rights to share your view.
Yeah... because staying in the workforce and handing off your kids to strangers is what having kids is all about, not family, not nurturing and caring for the kids... the State can do a much better job of it.
Ken, I think that is called communism. Have women been snookered into ditching raising children "It takes a village crap?"
On another point. I don't think these freebies and social programs should fall on taxpayers to foot the bill. Harris is promising many freebies that America can't afford. I mean did Harris not learn anything from overspending from the administration she is part of? This woman is truely nonsensical.Of course they are going to promise the world...
They know all they need to do is remain in power, to get past November 5th.
Then it doesn't matter... then they can go all out... those promises will be meaningless. We will be knee deep in a war of their making that they use as an excuse to strip away our Free Speech and seriously infringe on our rights to property and protection."... those promises will be meaningless."
~ so they are suggestions for the future. They are not promises. How can liars make "promises?"
promise:
synonyms: word of honor, word, assurance, pledge, vow, guarantee, oath, bond, undertaking, agreement, commitment, contract, covenant, compactKen,
I completely agree. If everything aligns for the Democrats, we could see a rapid shift toward a socialist, semi-Marxist agenda. Harris' promises while campaigning in 2020 about expanding social programs and Medicare for all will likely be implemented if she wins in November, in my view... I can also foresee the introduction of a burdensome new tax policy. They've already taken steps to erode free speech by pushing new terminology, like replacing "abortion" with "reproductive health." Ultimately, it will all hinge on Congress, and it's difficult to predict which party will hold the majority. Sources on Harris's views on Medicare for all in 2020 Debate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9dW2v2bEz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf76SNMvfo8
World history gives proof that when governments collapse or shift rapidly to new regimes, it often leads to instability, turmoil, and, in some cases, historic tragedies. Such swift transitions can create power vacuums, lead to authoritarian rule, and create internal conflicts. For example, the fall of the Weimar Republic and the rise of Nazi Germany resulted in one of the darkest chapters in modern history, including the devastation of World War II and the Holocaust. Similarly, the rapid shift to communist regimes in countries like Russia and China led to periods of intense social and economic upheaval, such as the Russian Revolution and China’s Cultural Revolution, both of which resulted in widespread violence, famine, and repression. The examples I offer are food for thought and only meant to highlight how sudden regime changes, especially when ideologically extreme, such as the current Democratic party share, can have catastrophic consequences for nations and their people."Medicare for all "is not part of the Harris agenda.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/1 … s-00174447
"They've already taken steps to erode free speech by pushing new terminology, like replacing "abortion" with "reproductive health."
What is anti-speech about this?
Trump... "My Administration will be great for women and their reproductive rights"
Democrats frequently use the phrase “reproductive rights” as a stand-in for abortion but also to refer more broadly to a range of medical practices related to child-bearing, such as birth control and in vitro fertilization. Support for reproductive rights, when invoked by Democrats, almost always means support for access to abortion.Are you trying to say that because Democrats have used the terminology incorrectly, with the intent of whitewashing what they are really trying to say and making it into a lie, that Trump should do the same? That Trump should also straight out lie with the term "reproductive rights" meaning the ability to murder children rather than what the words say?
They haven't used the term incorrectly.
Reproductive rights are about the legal right to contraception, abortion, fertility treatment, reproductive health, and access to information about one's reproductive body.The debate over reproductive rights, particularly the issue of abortion, often centers around the competing rights of a woman and the rights of the fetus. While reproductive rights are framed as essential to a woman's autonomy over her body, the rights of the fetus should also be considered. Should they not?
Opponents of abortion argue that once conceived, the fetus has a fundamental right to life, and this right must be protected by law. From the moment of conception, scientific evidence concludes there is a unique human being with distinct genetic material exists, and its potential for life is undeniable. The fetus, therefore, deserves the same moral and legal protections as any other human life.
Yes, some argue that the right to life outweighs a woman's right to make decisions about her body, particularly when alternatives such as adoption are available. It would seem granting unfettered access to abortion could undermine the societal value placed on human life, especially vulnerable life.
Legal systems have been now tasked with balancing competing rights, but in this case, the rights of the fetus, as a potential human being, should be given weight. If science is to be respected.
Allowing abortion results in the termination of a life that, if left to develop, would become a fully realized human being. Therefore, while reproductive rights are crucial for women's health and autonomy, they must be balanced with the rights of the fetus, whose inherent right to life is equally fundamental.
Abortion is killing no matter what excuses are offered, in the end, a death has resulted of a human being.
Regarding my comment about Harris supporting Medicare for all, I will correct that statement, and give a better explanation of the statement. It was poorly written. I had hoped to share Harris's previous views on Medicare for all. I have not heard of her recent plans for healthcare. I will admit I do not follow her closely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9dW2v2bEz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf76SNMvfo8
Marxists are always for taking from one to give to another. It's in the definition. All of her plans are nothing more than that - never anything along the lines of "provide for yourself" but instead always "We'll use the efforts and wealth of others so you don't have to do it for yourself".
And giveaways to large corporations are acceptable? They've been successful?
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-t … to-deliver
Child care - how about relaxing the rules and regulations for home day care? Rather than stringent rules making providing day care nearly impossible for anyone but large corporations, set the rules to something Happy Homemaker can do, and do at a reasonable cost.
No need to yet another excuse to forcibly take money from one only to give it to another under the guise of a false morality.
Trump speaks in general and often exaggerated terms. He finds it humorous.
There is nothing humorous about accusing schools of performing sex change operations. How long before one of the maga faithful bust into a school to "avenge" children? This type of rhetoric is dangerous and irresponsible. We can all see that Melania doesn't care but where are his kids? It's time to rein in pops, enough is enough.
I dunno... how long before we have some Trans person blame kids for...
Oh wait, that tragedy already has happened...
You are correct, the rhetoric you espouse is "dangerous and irresponsible" to spread.
"Enough is enough"...Ken, It is wise to hear the entire interview, how he used the statement, and what came before the statement. He was speaking to parents regarding his view that he feels a problem of School boards having too much power and that it should not usurp parents' rights. Yes, his sample was hyperbolic, overboard --- but let's at best add the full context of his thoughts. It was a bit of good feed, and well eaten up.
The mom for liberty asks him a question I believe around 1:53:00 , maybe just a bit before that she sets up the question about transgenderism. I listened to the whole exchange, I don't think I heard anything about school boards. His comment about schools performing sex change operations is very clear and very stand alone. Can you clarify? Potentially we are not discussing the same interview.
I'd encourage everyone to take a look
https://www.youtube.com/live/eu7njwOrsC … Qx9zd5S1Ip
You know well he did not say that. When Kamala says several times that 220 million Americans died of COVID 19 the mainstream media covers it up and said that she "mis-spoke" When Trump does not dumb down a comment so the leftists would understand it he is accused of not understanding the issue.
Perhaps you would like me to explain it for you? Kids go to school, are taught that they can hide their preferred gender from their parents, and leftists like Newsome promote new laws that allow schools to cover up the truth. The school tells them they can consult a physician and they do and are given drugs.
How long before some trans takes offense at the distortions and goes in and slaughters a lot of children that do not agree with them?
From the transcript of the mom's for Liberty interview with trump, since people seem to be adverse to watching it ...
TIFFANY JUSTICE: So can we talk about that for a second? Because Elon, you’re talking about Elon Musk. Elon Musk recently did an interview with Jordan Peterson. And he talked about the fact that one of his children has decided that they’re transgender. He talked about the woke mind virus. When you look at Tim Waltz, who is now Kamala Harris’ running partner. He has made his state a sanctuary city, sir. Which means that, a sanctuary state, excuse me, for children. That they can go there and have gender surgeries paid for by the government.
"And so I just ask you, there’s been an explosion in the number of children who identify as transgender. And children are being taught that they were born in the wrong body. It’s an incredibly abusive message to send. So let’s talk a little bit about some of the things that you might be able to do as president....
DONALD TRUMP: Well, you can do everything. President has such power. It does. It has such power. For instance, you could close the border. You don’t need a bill. You know, they keep saying, well, just give us a bill. They had the worst bill I’ve ever seen. It was a disaster. And they wouldn’t have signed it anyway. Because they do want open borders. They want to have open borders. They want to have all sorts of things that almost nobody in this room wants. Who I think 85, 90% of the country doesn’t want them there.
TIFFANY JUSTICE: I absolutely agree with you.
DONALD TRUMP: But the transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. Your kid goes to school. And comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what’s going to happen with your child. And you know, many of these childs, 15 years later, say, what the hell happened? Who did this to me? They say, who did this to me? It’s incredible.
Just to finish that boxing. So the Italian girl is there. And a left is not a hard punch, for those of you not into pugilistic affairs. But a left is just sort of a guarding punch, right? So she’s fighting this person that’s transgender. And the guy, boom, hits her with a left. It was like she got hit by a horse. And then she backed up. It was weird. She’s sort of like… And then he hits her with another left. And she said, that’s enough. I can’t take that. He ended up winning the gold medal. And there was another one who also transgendered. And he or she, she, ended up also winning the gold medal.
TIFFANY JUSTICE: He.
DONALD TRUMP: Tiffany said it. I didn’t. I’m a politician. I have to be politically correct.
TIFFANY JUSTICE: I’m a mom. I have to protect my kids.
DONALD TRUMP: No, but think of it. So the two people, the transgender. The whole thing is crazy. Have you seen the swimming records lately?
TIFFANY JUSTICE: Oh my goodness.
DONALD TRUMP: How about the weightlifting records? That’s one of the best. You know, a record that was like for 18 years. They put a quarter of an ounce on one side. Quarter of an ounce. A little bit on one. A little bit. And things held for 18 years. This guy walks along. And what did he beat the record by? 115 pounds. It’s crazy.'
https://singjupost.com/full-transcript- … nglepage=1You're kidding, right? That's what is being used to claim Trump said schools are doing transgender surgery on students? The lie is not in his obvious projection but in claiming he said schools are doing surgery.
What kid is going to school as a girl on a Monday and returns home as a boy on a Wednesday?
"Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation" .
What does that mean??
That is what he stated. Who is this happening to? Where is the evidence? The school facilitates the operation? Somewhere in the matter of a few days, the child's gender is changed. His statement is very clear as is the context or lack thereof surrounding the statement.
Trump supporters... "I love that Trump says exactly what he thinks"
Also Trump supporters... "But this is what he really means""Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation" .
What does that mean??"
Trump repeatedly has stated that he feels the entire Department of Education needs dismantling. He has shared his view that the school boards are making attempts to usurp parent's rights and step beyond their jobs. This is where his statement "a girl on a Monday and returns home as a boy on a Wednesday" came from. The media has played up the sentence and was careful not to cover the context that that sentence came out of. Trump has shared his view of what he feels has become problematic with school boards. Right or wrong he has not hidden his view, and he would like to dismantle the current Department of Education."He has shared his view that the school boards are making attempts to usurp parent's rights and step beyond their jobs. "
By providing "operations"? Or facilitating the ability to get an operation?
The context being suggested through your post does not exist in the mom's for Liberty interview. It would seem that some of his supporters are attempting to take his previous statements and have them apply to this current statement. That's a stretch.
Those of us on Earth One, do not believe the school board or any teacher is facilitating any "operation" he made this assertion, with no evidence. Where is the evidence?
Our educational system should be dismantled because he believes a child shows up to school on Monday as a boy in returns on Wednesday as a girl?
"He says what he means," that is one of the things supporters admire about Trump but then somehow seem to want to clean up his utterances with "well this is what he actually meant..'
Kid goes to school and comes back with an "operation", doctors are murdering newborns and he has the right to interfere with elections...all his statements.
Can someone please, provide an instance where a child went to school and disappeared for a few days while receiving an operation? As Trump very clearly stated
This kind of statement is dangerous and irresponsible. There is no defense for such a statement."The context being suggested through your post does not exist in the mom's for Liberty interview. It would seem that some of his supporters are attempting to take his previous statements and have them apply to this current statement. That's a stretch. "
I would suppose my view has come from hearing Trump mention and using that same statement on many occasions, in interviews and rallies. He truely has not hidden his views on the issue and used that hyperbolic statement before the interview in question.
The statement was made just after the interviewer brought up the laws Tim Walz created a sanctuary city where one could come to for gender surgery. enter at 46.02 https://www.c-span.org/video/?538060-1/ … conference
This is what Trump said after the hyperbolic statement in question "The school decides what's going to happen with your child." D.Trump
I feel he was referring to the laws, and EOs Tim has passed. Trump's statement was hyperbolic. This scenario is not likely to have occurred or will occur.
It's a bit strange that, after all these years, the media still focuses on Trump's off-the-cuff remarks. By now, isn't it clear that his supporters often interpret his statements as sarcastic or joking? They’re familiar with his style and know he can misspeak when offering his opinions. Some go to great lengths to criticize Trump's way of communicating without recognizing that many of his supporters find it perfectly acceptable—just as many Biden supporters overlook his stories and occasional gaffes. I would suppose we all are a bit hypocritical when it comes to supporting our choice for president. In the end, minds are made up of many variables, that just don't include words from interviews.
Human nature can be puzzling at times.This is what you are referring to?
TIFFANY JUSTICE: So can we talk about that for a second? Because Elon, you’re talking about Elon Musk. Elon Musk recently did an interview with Jordan Peterson. And he talked about the fact that one of his children has decided that they’re transgender. He talked about the woke mind virus. When you look at Tim Waltz, who is now Kamala Harris’ running partner. He has made his state a sanctuary city, sir. Which means that, a sanctuary state, excuse me, for children. That they can go there and have gender surgeries paid for by the government.
And so I just ask you, there’s been an explosion in the number of children who identify as transgender. And children are being taught that they were born in the wrong body. It’s an incredibly abusive message to send. So let’s talk a little bit about some of the things that you might be able to do as president.
DONALD TRUMP: Well, you can do everything. President has such power. It does. It has such power. For instance, you could close the border. You don’t need a bill. You know, they keep saying, well, just give us a bill. They had the worst bill I’ve ever seen. It was a disaster. And they wouldn’t have signed it anyway. Because they do want open borders. They want to have open borders. They want to have all sorts of things that almost nobody in this room wants. Who I think 85, 90% of the country doesn’t want them there.
TIFFANY JUSTICE: I absolutely agree with you.
DONALD TRUMP: But the transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. Your kid goes to school. And comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what’s going to happen with your child. And you know, many of these childs, 15 years later, say, what the hell happened? Who did this to me? They say, who did this to me? It’s incredible."
He then goes on to talk about boxing.
What am I missing here? His comment has no connection to Walz or any school board. First, he never answered her question. But also, his statement is not a joke, this is not sarcasm, he is clearly stating a belief. Just like he has stated his belief that doctors are murdering unwanted newborns and that he has the right to interfere in elections.He made the statement about a child who goes to school a girl and comes home days later a boy just after the interviewer brought up the laws Tim Walz created a sanctuary city where one could come to for gender surgery. He followed up after the statement where he said -- a child who goes to school is a girl and comes home days later a boy
with "The school decides what's going to happen with your child."There is no doubt he said " But the transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. Your kid goes to school. And comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what’s going to happen with your child. And you know, many of these childs, 15 years later, say, what the hell happened? Who did this to me? They say, who did this to me? It’s incredible."
I guess one can assume or not that he meant it literally or was predicting what could happen with laws such as Walz passed. The context was so disjointed, which is seen frequently with Trump. He adds unnecessary content to his answers and returns to the subject after one might have forgotten the question. As I admitted comments ago, I have heard him make that very comment in other interviews and rallies... I have also heard him many times state babies are ripped at nine months from the mother, and then a decision is made if the baby lives. As a nurse I can assure you that would never happen, it would be considered murder. I have witnessed babies born alive but not expected to live kept comfortable until death. I found his statement on that subject horrendous. There is no defense for such a statement. He said it, he now owns it.What baffles me the most is that he gets a pass from media on all of this. If Harris laughs for a second longer than what is deemed appropriate it will dominate the news cycle.
We have a tired aging man making the most outrageous statements, liying incessantly, fear mongering, disparaging everyday citizens doing their job, name calling while slurring, stammering . He is unable to put a coherent sentence together, he exhibits no grasp of policy or economics, can't stay on topic, can't
answer a direct question in a sensical manner. In terms of the way in which media covers Trump, the bar is so low. Meanwhile, absolute perfection is expected from Harris or she is nailed to the wall.
Where is the incessant coverage of Trump's age and mental decline as we saw with Biden?
Can you imagine for a second if Harris had made the claim that kids go to school, disappear for a few days and show back up as a different sex?
Not sure why he gets a pass on all of this.I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone get more negative press than Donald Trump. I’m not sure why you think Kamala Harris is getting poor coverage; from my perspective, she actually has a lot of prominent journalists supporting her. Sure, Fox News often criticizes her, but she also has a strong media presence defending her. As for Trump’s exaggerated statements, it seems many people are indifferent to them, which is puzzling and hard to explain.
Why Trump can get away with his off statement -- "A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma" --- it's exceptionally complex and difficult to understand, layered with multiple levels of obscurity. In essence, it is a subject that is enigmatic, and puzzling that it is nearly impossible to fully grasp or decipher.
He exaggerates. He is talking in ways to jolt us into alarm. He is justifying his decisions and stances by looking at the most exaggerated and overblown way to make a point.
Of course, he did not advocate the drinking of bleach to get rid of Covid. Of course, he does not think sex change operations are being done at schools.
Of course, he knows babies are not being ripped out of wombs.
The conversation he engages in is for the effect as he justifies a policy point decision. He speaks in general and exaggerated terms. Its just his personality to do so. Its probably what makes him successful in his many large projects. He owns jets after all.I agree... I always consider his deeds over anything he might say when he is sharing a view --- yes at times in a hyperbolic fashion. He is a strong leader, a man who gets things done and does not create huge problems. His ideologies do not get in the way of his decision-making, and he represents all Americans, in my view. I very much appreciated his years in office, and hope he is returned to the White House.
"I always consider his deeds over anything he might say when he is sharing a view -"
He shared an unsubstantiated lie.
Don't words have consequences? Consequences in the real world?
Wondering what would happen if Harris shared a "view" that the recent Georgia school shooter committed his act because he was afraid someone at the school would force him into an operation...."Wondering what would happen if Harris shared a "view" that the recent Georgia school shooter committed his act because he was afraid someone at the school would force him into an operation...."
I must ask for a source, I have not seen any report that Trump made that statement.
Certainly! Here's an expanded version of your comment, offering more reasoning on why deeds can outweigh words:
While words certainly have consequences and can shape perceptions, actions speak louder in the long run. Deeds, unlike words, have tangible effects on people's lives, policies, and the direction of a country. When it comes to leadership, we must weigh not just what candidates say, but what they've actually done and how those actions have impacted society.
In the case of choosing between Trump and Harris, I believe that deeds far outweigh Trump's nasty words. A politician's rhetoric may stir emotions, but their actions—whether in office or in their public life—reveal their true priorities and capabilities. It's easy to say the right thing, but far more challenging to follow through with meaningful actions. For me, Trump's record of deeds while serving as president provides a more reliable measure of leadership and decision-making, which is why I place greater importance on what a candidate has actually accomplished job-wise, rather than just what Harris claims to stand for. Common sense rules my choice, I have no room for emotions to enter the equation this time around.They sure do... look at the current death toll of the disasters brought about by the Biden Administration.
Saudi officials admit: Biden intentionally insulted Mohammed bin Salman
https://saudileaks.org/en/saudi-officia … in-salman/
HERE HE JOES AGAIN: Biden Insults Another Ally, Calls Japan ‘Xenophobic’ — KJP Tries to Spin
https://matzav.com/here-he-joes-again-b … s-to-spin/
Lawmakers blast Biden gaffe that Putin ‘cannot remain in power’
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … -in-power/
Biden has been an endless barrage of insults to foreign leaders, to the American people, labeling 75 million Americans threats to America.
To all women giving Trans-men the right to compete and shower and share bathrooms with women.
To all parents trying to make it so the State can take control of their children and give children drugs and operations that the parents don't want them to get.
Nonsense about Trump that the media tries to make into a national crisis is not worth discussing, the Biden Administration has the world set to burn down around our ears, economically, militarily, socially... America is not a better place, the world is not a better place, and that trend will continue if Harris is elected.
Consider how things were from 2016-2019 under Trump and compare it to how things are today. Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?
Is the world?
~ and the majority will return JDT ... If the vote is not rigged. Heaven help us, if it is.
Trump over the weekend...
“Can you imagine you’re a parent and your son leaves the house and you say, ‘Jimmy, I love you so much. Go have a good day in school’ and your son comes back with a brutal operation,” he added. “Can you even imagine this? What the hell is wrong with our country?
This isn't humor, this isn't an exaggeration, This is a lie from a lying liar who lies incessantly.
What I don't understand is his followers waffling on his statements. Either support it or come out against it, all I seem to be hearing are statements about "what he really meant". I think he said what he really meant, no interpretation needed, he certainly isn't clarifying his stance, he's doubling down on it. Why aren't followers listening?Its an exaggeration, for heaven's sake. He is making a point. Its the Sagittarius in his chart. How do I know? because I have Sag (Moon and Mars) in my chart too and will do the same thing. Its a way to make a quick point and have a dramatic effect at the same time. Quickness is a Sag trait.
What boring lives some people have to not be creative in this way or at least recognize this type of creativity. It's part of story telling. Not Lying.
Here is his chart:
https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/donald-trump/So... we have 4 years of our Media and WH Press releases telling us what Biden really meant, and we have had a few months now of word salad from Harris being in the spotlight.
And all of that has been OK...
Biden not being prosecuted for his crimes because he was considered mentally unfit is OK...
But we are supposed to consider the efforts of the Media to twist and turn every word from Trump, or how he expresses himself as if its worth worrying about?
The world is becoming a dumpster fire of disastrous military efforts America cannot extricate itself from because we have such incompetent and criminal leadership in the WH today... including Harris in that...
I'm not terribly worried about what Trump says or will bring if by some small miracle he survives to election day and actually wins the election, I don't expect those things to happen... less likely that happens than we avoid direct conflict with Russia... and if you have read my posts the past few years, you know how I expect our conflict with Russia to end.Do you agree with Trump's repeated statements that kids are going to school and coming home with operations?
I think most here have shared their thoughts on Trump's off-beat analogy. I will venture to say not one user here on this thread feels that a child will go to school one gender and return days later to another gender. Has anyone shared that view?
These days, it seems like many people focus heavily on Trump's words, while, as Ken pointed out, there's been a tendency to overlook certain things — for example, the four years of media and White House press releases explaining what Biden supposedly meant, and the months of confusing statements from Harris in the spotlight.
Is it possible that the media is influencing what you're paying attention to? I say this with good intentions, but it feels like this subject is being overemphasized at this point.
As mentioned, he has shared that statement frequently. I am not sure anyone has defended the essence of that statement. I called it "Horrendous" -- Kathren gave her perspective to why he may be using the statement - "He is talking in ways to jolt us into alarm. He is justifying his decisions and stances by looking at the most exaggerated and overblown way to make a point." and -- "The conversation he engages in is for the effect as he justifies a policy point decision. He speaks in general and exaggerated terms."
I don't know if the word Horrendous, or what Kathryn shared could be taken as a defense. Do you think you could just not understand the full context of the comment? Could you point out a statement from the conversation that appears to be a statement that one is defending the hyperbolic statement in question?
"What I don't understand is his followers waffling on his statements. Either support it or come out against it, all I seem to be hearing are statements about "what he really meant". I think he said what he really meant, no interpretation needed, he certainly isn't clarifying his stance, he's doubling down on it. Why aren't followers listening?"
To answer your question -- I want to be clear—what he says doesn’t matter to me, and it never did. I have two candidates to choose from, and while he can be overly dramatic at times, I believe he’s the right person for the job. I’m not interested in a politician or someone who speaks eloquently—that and $7.00 will get you a coffee at Starbucks. What I care about is seeing someone in the White House who can address the issues that truly worry me. As for the other candidate, I see no redeeming qualities in her. She’s underqualified and was part of an administration that contributed to many of the problems I’m concerned about. Her far-left agenda, in particular, is deeply offensive to me as a conservative."To answer your question -- I want to be clear—what he says doesn’t matter to me, and it never did.
Thank you, I appreciate the clarity on your position. For me, it has to begin with honesty. An individual who uses lies to divide people and inflame one against the other isn't fit to hold office.
In terms of Harris being unqualified, is she less qualified at this point than Trump was when he ran in 2016? In terms of experience she undeniably has more than Trump.
Just looking at the sheer number of years she brings to this race in terms of her various positions, they outnumber many presidents."Thank you, I appreciate the clarity on your position. For me, it has to begin with honesty. An individual who uses lies to divide people and inflame one against the other isn't fit to hold office. "
Do you feel Kamala Harris has been transparent about her agenda? For instance, there have been several instances where critics have pointed out several inconsistencies in her statements, for two examples, healthcare, and fracking. In healthcare, her stance on Medicare for All has appeared to waver over time. As for fracking, she initially supported a ban but now has taken a different stance, which some have interpreted as politically convenient. Do these examples raise any concerns for you about her honesty and integrity?
"In terms of Harris being unqualified, is she less qualified at this point than Trump was when he ran in 2016? In terms of experience she undeniably has more than Trump."
Trump's unique qualification as a former president sets him apart from Kamala Harris, who lacks the direct experience of holding the nation's highest office. Having served as president, Trump has already faced the complexities of governing, dealing with both domestic and international challenges. Many feel his job performance was good. His extensive business career, spanning many years, also gives him a perspective on economic management, negotiation, and leadership that his supporters view as valuable for addressing national issues.
In contrast, while Harris has more traditional political experience than Trump had when he first ran in 2016, she has never held the presidency. Furthermore, her role as VP in an administration that has faced numerous severe issues—ranging from inflation to foreign policy challenges to a broken border—has led some to question her preparedness for the top job. One could argue that she has often seemed ill-equipped to handle major crises during her time as VP, contributing to concerns about her readiness for the presidency.
"Just looking at the sheer number of years she brings to this race in terms of her various positions, they outnumber many presidents."
That statement isn't entirely accurate because the length of time someone has spent in various positions does not necessarily correlate with the qualifications or experiences required for the presidency. While having a long career in public service in law enforcement can provide valuable knowledge and skills, it does not guarantee the breadth of leadership, decision-making, and crisis-management experience that a president needs."Do you feel Kamala Harris has been transparent about her agenda? " Yes, I do. I also feel that she is not a liar. I view her policy positions as evolving perspectives. I think she has refined and adjusted, taking new information into account.
Trump's unique qualifications?
Bankrupting six businesses? Casinos no less. Trump managed to dispel the old adage "The House always wins".
"One could argue that she has often seemed ill-equipped to handle major crises during her time as VP,"
And in the history of vice presidents, can you point to any that have been tasked with handling major crises? Has she had the opportunity to set her own policy as vp? Her own agenda? And act on it independently from the president?
In terms of experience, since Trump is a declining elderly man, are you comfortable with the prospect of the president Vance with his extremely limited experience? I think a vote for Trump is more of a vote for Vance at this point. A man who yesterday was baselessly claiming Haitians are eating our pets....Your comment seems to oversimplify and in my view, misrepresent both Trump's record and the role of the vice president. While it’s true that Trump has faced multiple business bankruptcies, it’s important to note that these were strategic moves in the context of complex corporate structures. Bankruptcy, particularly in real estate and hospitality, doesn’t necessarily equate to failure but can be a tool used by businesses to restructure and rebound. In fact, Trump’s brand and wealth have remained strong despite these setbacks, indicating resilience and business acumen.
Regarding the vice presidency, it’s a mistake to downplay the importance of the position. While vice presidents traditionally serve in a supporting role, Harris has been tasked with high-profile assignments, such as handling the immigration crisis and leading discussions on voting rights. These are significant issues, and whether one agrees with her performance or not, it seems misleading to suggest that she hasn’t had the opportunity to address major challenges.
As for Trump’s age and health, concerns about potential successors are valid in any election, but J.D. Vance, should he be Trump's running mate, has demonstrated considerable thought leadership and political insight, notably with his bestselling book Hillbilly Elegy and subsequent work on issues affecting rural America. His lack of long-term political experience is comparable to many first-time candidates, but that doesn’t necessarily make him unqualified. Dismissing him based on one controversial statement ignores the broader contributions he could make in office. I mean need I dig up controversial statements I felt Harris shared? It appears you focus heavily on words while overlooking the other crucial responsibilities required to lead a nation as president."Harris has been tasked with high-profile assignments, such as handling the immigration crisis".
Which assignment was that and what was the outcome? She was tasked with handling the immigration crisis? She was tasked with looking at the root causes of immigration from specific Central American nations.
"His lack of long-term political experience is comparable to many first-time candidates, but that doesn’t necessarily make him unqualified."
But the argument has been made that Harris is unqualified? Seems like a double standard. Vance would come to the White House with the thinnest resume in history.JD Vance politician, author, venture capitalist, and Marine veteran who currently serves as the junior United States senator from Ohio.
He is the closest thing to JFK we currently have, he is intelligent, a sound orator with the ability to speak comprehensively on the issues and he is a combat veteran... which I personally believe is critical at this juncture in history as we seem to have plenty of fools in DC who would like to escalate WWIII and open up a three front war, very similar to what JFK had to deal with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6UF3xSBvFg
Harris is nothing more than a sock-puppet and anyone trying to say otherwise is either being duped by the propaganda press we have who only 3 months ago was telling us she was a liability to the Biden campaign... or is part of the establishment's effort to maintain us on the path toward insanity and destruction that we are on.
I don't think being the #2 Side Girl of Montel Williams back in the day qualifies her to be President and the last 4 years has shown her to be ill suited to handle even the most basic dignitary/diplomatic missions overseas... she hasn't been the embarrassment on the international stage Biden has been, but that is only because he is incontinent and suffering from severe dementia... which she has helped cover up from Americans (the foreign officials that have met and dealt with him the past few years KNOW he is not running a dammed thing, which might be why the world is falling apart, world leaders know both Biden and Harris are completely incompetent to handle the job.)Oh my, comparing Vance to Kennedy? Now that's a stretch. Which Vance accomplishments are impressive for you specifically?
JD Vance served in the U.S. Marine Corps as a Combat Correspondent.
Dates of service as Sept. 22, 2003, to Sept. 21, 2007.
Vance served during the height of our conflict with Iraq. The Iraq War conflict lasted from 2003 to 2011.
Vance spent six months in Iraq during his time with the Marines. His deployment began in August 2005 and ended in February 2006.
Vance did not experience combat in Iraq and has not publicly claimed that he did.
“I served in a combat zone. I never said that I saw a firefight myself, but I’ve always told the truth about my Marine Corps service,” Vance told reporters on Aug. 7, 2024.
Vance also wrote about his time in Iraq in “Hillbilly Elegy,” saying in part that he was “lucky to escape any real fighting.”
“As a public affairs marine, I would attach to different units to get a sense of their daily routine. Sometimes I’d escort civilian press, but generally I’d take photos or write short stories about individual marines or their work,” Vance wrote in his memoir. “Early in my deployment, I attached to a civil affairs unit to do community outreach. Civil affairs missions were typically considered more dangerous, as a small number of marines would venture into unprotected Iraqi territory to meet with locals.”
Cullen Tiernan, who served alongside Vance in Iraq as a fellow combat correspondent, also told The Independent that the role was not without danger.
“When we first landed, we got mortar and rockets from Baghdadi, the neighboring town. That was definitely a shock,” Tiernan told The Independent. “It’s odd to me that people would try to negate or put down what combat correspondents do. When you’re walking in patrol, or when you’re flying in a helicopter that goes into the sandstorm, or when you come upon an IED, and see people who have been blown up, you’re having the same exact experience. You just also have a camera and an obligation to document it.”
Vance has been critical of the Iraq war in recent years
Despite serving in Iraq, Vance has been critical in recent years of U.S. forces’ invasion of the country.
“Twenty years ago we invaded Iraq,” Vance wrote in a thread on X, formerly known as Twitter, on March 19, 2023. “The war killed many innocent Iraqis and Americans. It destroyed the oldest Christian populations in the world. It cost over $1 trillion and turned Iraq into a satellite of Iran. It was an unforced disaster, and I pray that we learn its lessons.”
Vance went on to say that he “supported the war” when he was 18 years old, adding that he enlisted in the Marines a month after the U.S. invaded Iraq and left for bootcamp a few months after he graduated from high school.
“Even though I was just a kid, I still feel guilty for supporting the war,” Vance wrote.
“I remember thinking to myself that what we would do in Iraq was transform it from a horrible dictatorship into a flowering democracy. And I hate to say that didn’t happen,” Vance said.
He added later that the “American foreign policy establishment has learned zero lessons from what is perhaps the most unforced and catastrophic error in the history of this country.”
AND THAT is enough for me, right there. A man of conscience and character.I have no issue with his service. But I don't know how much conscious and character a man can have to be on the ticket with Trump. Especially after the things Vance has said about him. Also, it's a little tough for most of us out here to set aside his misogynistic attacks on women.
The only one with a lower likability rating than Trump is Vance."But I don't know how much conscious and character a man can have to be on the ticket with Trump. Especially after the things Vance has said about him." --- Certainly, JD did a huge flip-flopped -- Just like Harris on a laundry list of issues.
Looks like you gal runs neck and neck with Trump regarding likability--
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po … la-harris/
https://elections2024.thehill.com/natio … ty-rating/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po … ald-trump/
https://elections2024.thehill.com/natio … ty-rating/
And Timmy oh my 35%
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po … /tim-walz/
JD --- Neck and neck 34% https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po … /jd-vance/
Yikes!
"... while reproductive rights are crucial for women's health and autonomy,"
* Maybe, just maybe ....
Human, Conscious Females need to FOCUS on this objective
B E F O R E
they MESS AROUND.
( Don't mind me. I just love stating the obvious, poster style.
)Reproductive Rights also apply to the woman who has miscarried and whose body will not expel that miscarriage. It is estimated that between 10 and 20 of every 100 pregnancies result in miscarriage. Some of which will require the same procedures used in abortion to remove tissue that has become necrotic and the woman is approaching sepsis. Many states will not allow doctors to perform this procedure (abortion) until that woman, who planned her pregnancy, is not knocking on heaven's door. This is not okay.
To reduce this issue to "keep your legs closed". Is far too simplistic."Some of which will require the same procedures used in abortion to remove tissue that has become necrotic and the woman is approaching sepsis. Many states will not allow doctors to perform this procedure (abortion) until that woman, who planned her pregnancy, is not knocking on heaven's door."
Who could disagree with this?
The mother's life is always taken into account first."The mother's life is always taken into account first."
Is it though? Many, many women are coming forward to say otherwise.
'Her miscarriage left her bleeding profusely. An Ohio ER sent her home to wait".
These abortion laws are putting doctors in the position of facing "criminal prosecution, prison time, fines, loss of your medical license – it's entirely rational for doctors to steer clear when in doubt of violating the law."
We have politicians, and lawyers directing physicians with these vague laws. It's not right.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho … n-law-ohio
If there were not women using abortion as a form of birth control the legislatures in the states may not even have gotten involved.
What other form of morality would you like legislatures to enforce?
Rape is a moral crime. Maybe if Kamala is elected she can pack the supreme court with enough leftists that they can find a moral crime like rape okay?
Are you against the idea that would make a moral crime like rape against the law? Should a legislature be allowed to mak a law against murder?
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