What media got it right?

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  1. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 8 months ago
    1. GA Anderson profile image84
      GA Andersonposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      The headline was tempting but I hit the paywall.

      With the tightness in the polls, their primary measure, all the legacy medias will claim some 'rightness.' Or, the polls could be off — a la 2016 and Hillary, and they all will be wrong.

      7 PM EST will be when it gets interesting.

      GA

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        The polls could be off... but if its a landslide it will be for Harris...

        Look... we have States where it is illegal to ask to see the ID of the voter...

        Other States allow for up to a week for 'Mail In Ballots' to come in, after the election...

        Its a joke... there is no way to validate who filled out what... or how many times a person voted... if you can't verify who voted, you also can't verify fraud.

        1. MizBejabbers profile image95
          MizBejabbersposted 8 months agoin reply to this

          Your last paragraph says it all. I've always felt that way so I guess that makes me a "middle of the roader". I don't mind showing my ID at all at the polls. I remember when I was child, my parents had to each pay a poll tax to be eligible to vote. At that time it was $1 each, which was the equivalent of a week's worth of meals for me in the school lunchroom. So it cost the two of them the equivalent of 10 meals to vote. Compare that with what a child's week of meals costs a parent today.

    2. tsmog profile image75
      tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      Powerful article!!! Thanks for the recommendation, Kathleen.

    3. Jodah profile image86
      Jodahposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks for sharing that.

  2. tsmog profile image75
    tsmogposted 8 months ago

    Unsure if we're seeing the same article. The title to the article the link goes to for me is

    Opinion | This election year, legacy media consumers came out on top
    We’ve made our share of mistakes, but readers of traditional media understand the stakes of this election.

    Edit: I did not hit a paywall.

  3. IslandBites profile image67
    IslandBitesposted 8 months ago

    This election year, legacy media consumers came out on top

    We’ve made our share of mistakes, but readers of traditional media understand the stakes of this election.


    By Catherine Rampell
    November 5, 2024 at 7:00 a.m. EST
    Two-and-a-half cheers for traditional, “legacy” news media this election.

    Sure, everyone hates us. As the interwebs (and this newspaper’s owner) keep reminding me, trust in news organizations has reached all-time lows. When a major party’s presidential candidate muses about having reporters locked up or murdered, crowds cheer. Meanwhile, our audiences have been siphoned off by upstart news brands or social media.

    And Lord knows we (myself included) have made our share of mistakes.

    But you know what? If you had consumed all your election news this year exclusively from The Post, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal or other journalistic dinosaurs, you’d probably be well-informed. You’d have a sense of what the stakes are this election. You might even know what the candidates stand for! The same cannot be said if you instead primarily relied on TikTok influencers, random bros with podcasts or Discord streams, and Elon Musk’s X platform.

    For all our faults, traditional journalists have still managed to unearth and explain what the candidates stand for and how their agendas would affect regular Americans. Readers often claim the media “won’t cover” some critical issue or other, but such kibitzers probably know about the story in question only because some hardworking journalist excavated it.

    If you know that Donald Trump’s Justice Department blocked an investigation into whether he received $10 million from the Egyptian president, you know it because of The Post. If you’ve heard that Trump’s former chief of staff described him as fascist, you heard it because of the New York Times. If you learned that Musk, a major Trump adviser and U.S. government contractor, has had secret conversations with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, you learned it because of the Wall Street Journal.

    These are old institutions, each more than a century old. But quite a few younger news organizations have adopted a similar spirit to the legacy brands and practice the same kind of traditional shoe-leather reporting, with traditional journalistic standards and ethics. Consider ProPublica, a not-for-profit national news organization that published must-read, sensitive stories about pregnant women in Georgia and Texas who died after being denied emergency abortion care. And countless smaller newspapers, with fewer resources, are doing yeoman’s work to hold local officials to account.


    We traditional journalists don’t get things right all the time. We have biases we’re often blind to. We make errors of omission, commission and emphasis. But we are (usually) embarrassed when we get stuff wrong, and we have procedures for transparently correcting our mistakes.

    Ironically, this might partly be why the public doesn’t trust us: We admit our mistakes, rather than doubling down and pretending to omniscience — as the Trumps and Musks of the world do.

    Admission of error, or even of uncertainty, should make the public trust us more. But perversely, it often makes people trust us less. (Just watch what happens on the rare occasion when a public official issues a mea culpa.) Audiences often mistake certainty for credibility and confuse confidence with competence. As a longtime cable news pundit, I learned long ago that the fastest way to lose audience trust is to say “I don’t know.”


    And, so, a disillusioned public seeks out new information sources that claim to be unblemished by error, doubt or political allegiance. Unfortunately, plenty of alternative news sources falsely present themselves this way, while disseminating honest mistakes at best and deliberate misinformation at worst.

    Some do so for financial remuneration (to build and monetize an audience). Some do it for political gain (to win an election, to score a Cabinet post, to destabilize a rival country). Yet others might just be useful idiots manipulated by the first two groups. Whatever the motivation, these “alternative” sources of information build up their perceived credibility by smearing ours. They claim they have a monopoly on truth, which those of us in mainstream media organizations have allegedly been withholding.

    This is how Americans end up listening to cranks and conspiracy theorists who falsely claim that fluoridation causes cancer, or that undocumented Haitian immigrants are illegally voting, or that emergency responders have abandoned hurricane victims to floods and homelessness.


    The caveats to all this: As a journalist employed by one of those dinosaurs, I obviously have a vested interest in making all these arguments. And I don’t know what the solution is, other than teaching Americans to become more discerning consumers of news and other information, and to work harder as journalists to prove we’re careful, thorough and fair.

    We’ve lost audience trust, and within the industry there are fierce debates about how to regain it. That’s true even within this very newspaper, where we have had significant disagreement about how to best demonstrate our political independence.

    But in the meantime, I want to recognize my colleagues in traditional media who subject themselves to danger, exhaustion, harassment and instability just to do their jobs. You are my heroes. This election cycle, I’m a better-informed voter because of you.

    1. wilderness profile image76
      wildernessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      "The same cannot be said if you instead primarily relied on TikTok influencers,"

      Influencers.  That's an excellent term for what MSM has become in their "reporting".  The intent of their "report" is to influence, to cause opinions to be as theirs is.  To convince listeners to believe as the speaker desires, regardless of truth.

      It's not about truth, it's not about providing facts, it's not about honesty and it's not about giving the listener the information need to draw a conclusion.

      It's about bringing about the conclusion (right or wrong) that the speaker wishes, and without having all the data necessary to make a considered, factual decision.

  4. Ken Burgess profile image72
    Ken Burgessposted 8 months ago

    LEGACY MEDIA AS PROPAGANDA OUTLETS
    Feb 24, 2024

    John Locke, an English Philosopher, wrote about the necessity of offering proof “other than by often repeating it, which among some men, goes for argument.” So as not to be guilty of deserving that reproach, I need to define and explain the collusion of government and media interests that I feel has reached the threshold of propaganda, an accusation I’ve made repeatedly.

    Over my lifetime, the news media has transitioned from being respected as the “Fourth Estate” of government into a conglomerate of untrustworthy entities that parrot whatever government narrative is being flogged.

    This essay will describe the sequences of events and market forces that lead to the collapse of a previously independent minded media. However, it is more important to understand why the current manifestation of the media represents an existential threat to our freedom.

    In his 2022 book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism, renowned clinical psychologist, Mattais Desmet explains a process by which we voluntarily surrender our freedoms. Using the Covid Pandemic as an example, he explains how the phenomena of “Mass Formation” works to our detriment.

    It is well worth the time spent reading it. If you’re pressed for time, then his interview on Jay Bhattacharva’s podcast, “The Illusions of Consensus”, will give you the basic points.

    For this essay, the cliff notes will suffice. The process proceeds along the following lines: social isolation –loneliness – anxiety – frustration – anger. These emotions can be amplified by Technology, Social Media, and the Internet, which can then be used by a government to induce a climate of fear that leads to a collective psychosis.

    This “Mass Formation” is then used to persuade citizens to act against their own best interests. Totalitarianism doesn’t form in a vacuum. It follows a predictable path, and it requires the acquiescence of the media in all its forms. During a Mass Formation, a government controlled media can exacerbate the problem. An echo chamber of deliberate misinformation which increases fear and anxiety creates an ideological blindness making compliance of totalitarian dictates more likely.

    Individual freedoms are surrendered without a whimper. This is what occurred during the Covid Pandemic. The only defense against mass formation and that collective psychosis is sincere speech that speaks the truth, and free speech requires an independent media. How do you wake up from the matrix, if you don’t know you’re in the matrix?

    An independent media is the “Red Pill”.

    I think it would suffice at this point to keep it simple, and merely list as bullet points the course of change:

    -         CNN establishes a twenty four hour news format requiring an increase of both financial expenditures and personnel.

    -         Competition and pressure to achieve profitability resulted in expanded programing and new prime time offerings.

    -         A proliferation of choice eventually instigated an era of consolidation to rein in costs and increase market share.

    -         Five conglomerates control 90% of media markets.

    -         Ten companies own half of all daily newspapers.

    -         Corporate suits, not Journalists, now control the news media.

    -         Ethical conflicts of interest suppress investigative journalism.

    -         The Internet changed how citizens receive their news.

    -         The Internet switched from being a vehicle of free speech to one of selective censorship.

    -         Advances in Artificial Intelligence allow data mining and more effective censorship on social media venues.

    The mechanisms for a conjunction of media and government were now in place, and all that was required was a catalyst which came in the form of a Pandemic.

    Analyzing the events which occurred during the Pandemic illustrates in the clearest possible way how the government suborned the press. Initially, the only thing we knew about SARS-CoV-2 was what the press reported. Having lost their investigative moxie, the press reported what the government told them. The government told us lies to manipulate behavior.

    The mainstream media repeated that propaganda without question, but always in a manner to induce fear and anxiety. That fear induced a Mass Formation and collective psychosis that enabled the government to induce compliance. Intelligent people, who might otherwise have questioned the narrative, where caught up in that collective psychosis. They became convinced that they were doing the right thing, even when telling “Noble Lies”, or pushing mandates they knew were wrong.

    It is not my intent to deconstruct each of the lies that I’m going to list. Four years after the start of the pandemic there is near unanimous acceptance among independent scientists that these statements were in fact deliberate lies.

    Others have written whole books with copious documentation proving them as lies, as have numerous peer reviewed papers. If you still believe them to be true, then either you have a severe case of cognitive dissonance, or you only get your information from the legacy media. The following list of deliberate lies is not exhaustive: just one that makes the case for what I’m trying to illustrate:

    ·        It was a Highly Lethal Virus

    ·        It was Not a Wuhan Lab Leak

    ·        The Vaccines are Safe & Effective

    ·        Vaccinations will prevent Transmission

    ·        Masks, Lock-downs and Social Distancing will stop the spread

    Each of these narratives were initially presented by the FDA and CDC as fact.

    Each lie was then repeated ad nauseam by the media in a manner that was almost identical; as if some other entity was writing a universal script to be parroted.

    The government also spent 1 billion dollars paying comedians, commentators, social influencers and talk show hosts to repeat these lies. A fully fledged Mass Formation event is characterized by two disparate groups: one who believes and one who doesn’t. When members of the latter group began to question the government narrative they were attacked by the media, censored, canceled, gas lighted, disparaged, subjected to ad hominem attacks, and/or fired. These dissidents were people of character who persisted in speaking truth to lies using various internet platforms.

    The government censorship establishment, a product of the cold war, applied intense pressure to social media companies to use their Artificial Intelligence Algorithms (AI) to either moderate, throttle, censure or de-platform anyone posting content contradicting the approved narrative.

    After purchasing Twitter (now X), Elon Musk released copious documentation proving that the government coordinated censorship with Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, Google Searches, Linkedln, and other platforms. The Attorney Generals of Missouri, Louisiana, and the lawyers for Robert Kennedy’s Third Party Candidacy have all won court cases concerning that government sponsored censorship.

    The Pandemic crisis has since been replaced by other crises in a continuous succession; Climate Change, the Ukraine War, Illegal Immigration, the Palestinian attack on Israel, etc. Our government continues to spin their preferred narrative with lies. Having once been complicit, the legacy media continues to act as the official propaganda voice for the government.

    The Freedom of Speech enshrined in the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights is the cornerstone of our Constitutional Republic. The collusion of censorship between government and the media is a serious internal existential threat to a free America. We are farther along the road to Totalitarianism than many of us realize.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image83
      Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

      Hey Ken, I just realized it was from a liberal WAPO writer. By the fourth paragraph, it was clear it was more of the same from WAPO. Thanks for your thoughtful comment! Here are the author's last three articles. She has page after page of Trump-bashing opinion pieces. Here are the past four.

      If elected, Trump will make you and your family less safe

      If elected, Trump will make you and your family less safe

      Here’s how Trump could curb national abortion access — unilaterally

      Only care about your pocketbook? Trump is still the wrong choice.

  5. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 8 months ago

    Thank you Island Bites. I was just about to copy & paste.

    Full Disclosure: I'm a retired newspaper woman, so of course I would share this article!

  6. Kathleen Cochran profile image71
    Kathleen Cochranposted 8 months ago

    For the record: Win, Lose, or Draw - I won't be posting about the results.

    God bless America.

 
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