Don't be fooled by Biden's pardon of Hunter
Did the democrats actually believe this wasn't going to happen? Did they actually believe biden and other democrats saying nobody is above the law? How could democrats be so wrong about so much"
"Were you surprised?
When President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, many people online and on air acted surprised. Of course the president had promised he would not do it. Of course he did do it. What is remarkable is that so much of the surprise seems genuine.
There is a Lucy-and-the-football quality to the responses in legacy media when Democrats do Democrat things. Legacy media is so deeply biased to the left at every level that it is probably impossible to course correct now, and only alternative media will thrive in the years ahead. Trust in legacy media, like trust in President Biden, ought to be a thing of the past now.
When President Biden set out to make himself FDR 2.0 with massive and unnecessary spending when he took office, and instead sparked an inflationary cycle unlike any we have seen since the late Jimmy Carter years, some people were genuinely surprised. It made no economic sense to do what he did, but Biden did what Democrats do: Spend money on favored constituencies. People like former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summer warned Biden, but Biden waived it off and unleashed inflation. To repeat: spending enormous amounts of money on favored groups is what Democrats do.
When President Biden pulled out of Afghanistan in such a precipitous way as to cause the collapse of the NATO-backed regime in disastrous fashion, followed by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, people were surprised. Why? It is exactly what President Obama did with American forces in Iraq in late 2011, and the rise of ISIS followed soon thereafter. Scampering out on allies no matter the predictable, indeed inevitable awful consequences, is what Democrats do.
When Secretary Clinton turned out to have a private server, people were surprised. When her lawyers deleted thousands of emails, people were surprised. When the Department of Justice and the National Archives and Records Administration ordered a raid on Mar-a-Lago, people were surprised. The "rules" are for Republicans, not Democrats.
We should simply stop being surprised when Democrats do Democrat things, or when the vast administrative state does ridiculous and cruel things like seizing and killing Peanut the squirrel and Fred the raccoon, or when legacy media pretends to being shocked, shocked at events.
It’s what bureaucracies do: abuse power.
When Democrat state officials in Colorado and Maine tried to remove Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot, people were surprised, but should not have been. Abusing power is part of the genetic code of big government when run by Democrats. It’s a feature, not a bug. Weaponizing New York State civil and criminal law? Check. Weaponizing Fulton County, Georgia prosecutors? Check. Turning Jack Smith loose to pursue whatever theory he can cook up regardless of existing precedent and likely Supreme Court rulings? Check.
When Dr. Fauci tells you masks don’t work and then tells you he was lying in the so-called public interest, don’t be surprised. When public health officials tell demonstrators that their mass gatherings in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd are not contrary to all prior COVID guidance, don’t be surprised.
Just don’t be surprised by Democrats, bureaucrats, or legacy media. Hold on to two thoughts from 2024: First, for months and indeed years, every senior Democrat and their enablers in legacy media told us President Biden was perfectly fine and had the energy and acuity of all of his young staffers, and they were lying.
When President Biden told us he would not pardon Hunter, he was lying.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/morning … don-hunterI'm in trouble on this one because I see it as a '. . . sauce for the goose . . ." situation.
I think Hunter Biden's prosecution was the same kind of political persecution as the '34 felonies' (31?) trials against Trump. I'm okay with the pardon. Given my view of the Democrats' treatment of Joe Biden and the political motivation of the Hunter prosecution, I would have done the same thing.
Turn-about is fair play.
GAThe is nothing similar in the two situations. Not one thing.
I don't think President Donald Trump got a pardon from the president AFTER saying he would not for months. President Donald Trump did NOT get a pardon.
biden and the democrats claimed for MONTHS that biden would NOT pardon his son on federal gun charges and the federal tax evasion. The democrats claimed nobody was above the law. Now they clarified it to nobody is above the law EXCEPT the son of a president.
The gun charges and the federal tax evasion convictions were small compared to the more serious charges that were coming down the road. So, hunter was pardoned for anything he had done for the previous 11 years.
I think you need to read a bit more about this situation.You think I need to read more . . . that's pretty rich Mike.
How much reading would it take to change your mind about Pres. Trump's NY trial?
GAI think you would be amazed at how much I've read about President Donald Trump NY trial.
No, I wouldn't be surprised. Did your reading change your mind about his convictions?
GAIt made me certain that the charges were politically motivated, based on extremely faulty law, and directed by the White House to try and stop him from actively campaigning.
Most people have no idea what types of felony President Donald Trump was convicted of having done. Few know the reason for it and even fewer know why the case was such a stretch for law.Thank you—I’ve followed the entire trail, including many of the legal experts’ articles and interviews. It’s clear that many people are unaware of the details in the New York fraud case. The legal complexities and the nuances of the arguments have been overlooked by those offering opinions without fully understanding the situation.
I see the NY trial as you do. I only need to substitute Republicans for Democrats and your description almost fits my view of the Hunter case. He did commit the crimes, but I don't think he would have faced felony charges (probably not even charged) if his last name wasn't Biden. His is just as much a case of political persecution as Pres. Trump's was.
Add the Democrats' treatment of Joe Biden: letting (encouraging?) him run when they knew he had a problem at least a year, if not two, before dumping on him like they did the week before his exit, and I'm sure Biden was pissed about that.
So Biden's mad. His political career is over and his legacy is trashed. He knows his son was politically persecuted and is going to spend years in jail because of it.
Hell yeah, I'd pardon him too, and give the party the finger while doing it.
This action isn't damaging America or the public's faith in the system. The public sees it for the politics it is. Life will go on.
GAAcceptable, predictable, and not worth mulling over considering Biden is done, the Clintons are done, and so much else is on the edge...
Thanks to Biden... we have a world that no longer fears America...
The Biden Administration (Biden & Nuland) pushed for conflict with Russia...
The Biden Administration ended sanctions on Iran, released billions to Iran, paid billions to Iran for hostages, and have allowed the conflicts to escalate in the Middle East to the point where war there could surpass the Ukraine in its severity and potential to escalate into a world war.
Biden's wonderful show of American strength in fleeing Afghanistan in such a tragic and disgraceful fashion...
The chances of war coming to our shores, with our open borders, was never more likely."I don't think he would have faced felony charges (probably not even charged) if his last name wasn't Biden."
I don't agree. Other people have gone to jail for committing the exact same offense...BUT their name wasn't biden." but I don't think he would have faced felony charges (probably not even charged) if his last name wasn't Biden. "
Hunter Biden owed approximately $1.4 million in unpaid federal taxes for the years 2016 to 2019, which he admitted to during his plea agreement in 2023. He faced charges for failing to pay these taxes. Due to it clearly not being a simple tax mistake due to him not paying taxes for years, and the amount owed, such a person would be charged.
President Joe Biden pardoned his son, Hunter Biden, on December 1, 2024, sparing him from sentencing in his federal gun and tax cases. This decision came despite Biden previously stating he would not intervene in his son's legal matters.
This is a serious charge, especially considering the large amount Hunter Biden owed and the fact that he ignored paying taxes for years. This wasn’t just a simple mistake—people go to prison for tax evasion of this scale. Additionally, the issue here is that Joe Biden repeatedly lied about pardoning his son. He explicitly said he wouldn’t do it and even added, "you have my word as a Biden," only to do the opposite later.
Biden should have just been upfront. I don't think many would condemn him for [pardoning his son. But the lying over and over does not sit well with some.Biden should have just been upfront. I don't think many would condemn him for [pardoning his son. But the lying over and over does not sit well with some.
Was it a lie or a realization that it could be a reality that Kash Patel will head the FBI? The man has literally published a hit list of people he wants to go after.
If I were Biden, I would preemptively pardon everyone on that list.
And in terms of lying? LOL trump is proof positive that lying sits very well with a lot of people..I absolutely feel Cash Patel is perfect for the head of FBI. Period. He may have "hit list". Perhaps he will be quick with his investigations, and if needed put his concerns into Pam's lap. Biden may just pardon many from his circle. Not sure Biden would even remember the names of those in his corrupt circle.
I have not witnessed Trump telling purposeful lies, ever... "I will not pardon my son"...
The Bidens’ Influence Peddling Timeline
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens- … -timeline/
Biden Family Corruption Exposed
https://aflegal.org/biden/
The Biden Crime Family Gets Away with It
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morn … y-with-it/
Like many Democrats, the Biden crime family is above the law
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin … e-the-law/Well Jordan and Comer had four years to investigate and uncover something. They failed in a spectacular and usually very comical fashion. Are your guys always so inept at proving their wild claims? All of the committees and so-called investigations have been huge flops.
"Are your guys always so inept at proving their wild claims?"
Apparently better than yours. After 8 years, still no collusion between Trump and Putin, still no Trump instigating an insurrection.
"I think Hunter Biden's prosecution was the same kind of political persecution as the '34 felonies' (31?) trials against Trump. " GA
The key difference between Hunter Biden’s legal issues and Trump’s trials lies in the nature of the charges and the evidence behind them.
Hunter Biden’s prosecution involves clear violations of the law, like tax evasion (backed by IRS documentation) and lying on a gun application, both of which are serious legal infractions with concrete evidence. These charges are not based on political motivations; they stem from documented actions that broke federal laws.
On the other hand, Trump’s charges, while serious, are more complex and involve allegations of obstruction, mishandling classified documents, and other offenses related to his actions while in office. While there is evidence in some cases, much of the legal pursuit of Trump has been politically charged, and some people argue that it has been exaggerated or pushed for political gain. The "34 felonies" related to falsifying business records, for instance, hinges more on interpretations of intent and whether these actions were meant to influence an election, which is a bit murkier.
In short, Biden’s case is about clear-cut, documented legal violations, while Trump’s trials, although they involve serious accusations, carry a heavier burden of political motivation and legal gray areas. That's why it feels different when comparing the two situations.Sorry, but I can't resist: 'Oh, so that's the difference.'
GA ;-)"The "34 felonies" related to falsifying business records, for instance, hinges more on interpretations of intent and whether these actions were meant to influence an election, which is a bit murkier."
Falsifying business records in the state of New York is a misdemeanor. Bragg bumped it up to a felony based on federal law. Few people realize a state court can't prosecute someone under federal law, and that is what Bragg did. The entire case stunk from beginning to end and all places in between. It MUST be overturned on appeal.Bragg bumped it up to a felony based on federal law. Few people realize a state court can't prosecute someone under federal law,
No he absolutely did not. Your interpretation is incorrect.
Bragg charged Trump under New York Penal Law 175.10, falsifying business records in the first degree. The falsification of business records alone is a misdemeanor under 175.05...but Bragg had boosted the charge to a felony by alleging that Trump fudged the records with the “intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof.”
175.10 “does not require that the ‘other crime’ actually be committed”. “all that is required is that defendant … acted with a conscious aim and objective to commit another crime.”I don't think so
"In any event, the Justice Department did not pursue that case, the statute of limitations bars pursuing it now, and Bragg has no authority to enforce federal campaign finance regulations. Instead, he is relying a moribund New York election law that experts say has never been enforced before.
That attempt to convert a federal campaign finance violation into state felonies is so legally dubious that Bragg’s predecessor, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., rejected the idea after long consideration. It reeks of political desperation and validates Trump’s complaint that Democrats are attempting “election interference” by undermining his current presidential campaign.
As Bragg tells it, Trump is the one who committed “election interference,” which the DA describes as “the heart of the case.” Bragg says his prosecutors “allege falsification of business records to the end of keeping information away from the electorate.”
Again, you can't charge someone with federal crimes in a state court. This case should have NEVER been brought. It is pure and simple attempt by democrats to conduct campaign interference. Guess what? It didn't work. The American people saw this sham trial for the legal travesty it was.Where is the federal statute listed on the charging document?
All I see is...NY 175.10No. The claim is that he is being charged with a Federal crime, if that were the case a statue would be listed. He is charged, only, under New York penal law. That's it. This didn't have anything to do with campaign finance violations.
"Bragg says his prosecutors “allege falsification of business records to the end of keeping information away from the electorate.”
Who was the victim of the alleged false record keeping for a campaign?
Yes, I have been following all his cases closely, and this is what appears could happen if the hush money case is tossed out. The felony charges for falsifying business records hinge on the claim that the records were altered to hide another crime—in this case, a campaign finance violation related to the hush money payments. Letitia James used the hush money case as part of the argument to elevate what would typically be a misdemeanor falsification charge to a felony in the fraud case. If the court determines that no campaign finance violation occurred, it could undermine the felony enhancement, possibly reducing the charges to misdemeanors. That said, the fraud charge might not be entirely dismissed, as the misrepresentation of records could still independently violate New York law. It’s a complex legal scenario, and the way intent is interpreted will play a critical role. The judge who heard the felony case could also decide to toss it out altogether.
Okay . . . it won't affect me, personally, so why worry about it. Biden as president can pardon whomever he chooses while doesn't have to explain why. After all the nefarious characters Trump pardoned I see it as par for the course.
The U.S. government faces significant tax fraud, with estimates indicating that over $188 billion in tax revenue is lost annually due to tax evasion, the highest loss of any country. In the end, taxes are what support our Nation. I wonder if you would feel the same if the IRS came after you, for even a simple mistake, and fined you an absorbent amount for that mistake.
If you make a tax mistake, the IRS can charge various penalties depending on the issue. For example, if you fail to file your tax return, there’s a 5% penalty per month on unpaid taxes, up to 25%. If you file but don’t pay, it’s a 0.5% penalty per month. If the IRS finds your return to be inaccurate, you could face a 20% penalty on the underpaid tax. Serious mistakes or fraud can result in a 75% penalty.
I’ve heard Biden say at least 10 times that he wouldn’t pardon his son, Hunter, and that no one is above the law. He’s repeated this line often during his presidency to make it seem like he’s standing for accountability.
But let’s be honest—Biden is a man who lies without hesitation, about just about anything he pleases. His track record shows it, whether it’s stories about his life or policies he’s pushed. So, should anyone be surprised if he goes back on this bold claim about not pardoning his son? I know I wouldn’t be. It’s just more of the same from a man who says whatever he thinks will play well at the moment.
I can’t say I was surprised at all when Biden pardoned Hunter. He’s said time and again that he wouldn’t do it, but let’s be real—how often does Biden actually stick to what he promises? It’s not like his word has ever held much weight with me. What gets me is how many people out there genuinely seemed shocked when it happened. Were they really buying into his whole “no one is above the law” routine? Come on. This is just Biden doing what Biden does—saying one thing and doing another when it suits him.
I completely agree. Legacy media has been so left-leaning for so long that it’s impossible to take them seriously anymore. They keep pulling the football, just like you said. Trusting them—or Biden, for that matter—feels like a mistake we should all be done making. Alternative media is where the real accountability and truth are going to come from moving forward.
You’re absolutely right—Biden came in trying to be FDR 2.0, but all he managed to do was repeat the same old Democratic playbook of reckless spending. It was obvious this would lead to inflation, especially when even people like Larry Summers warned him. But Biden didn’t care; he just kept funneling money to his favorite groups. It’s predictable and frustrating, but unfortunately, it’s what Democrats do.
There’s no point in being surprised anymore. Whether it’s Hillary Clinton’s emails, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, or state officials trying to keep Trump off the ballot, Democrats and bureaucracies have shown over and over that they’ll abuse power to protect their own and punish their opponents. It’s baked into the system when they’re in charge.
The same goes for public health hypocrisy—like Fauci flip-flopping on masks or officials justifying mass gatherings during COVID when it fit their narrative. And Biden? They’ve been lying about his capability for years, and the media plays along like it’s nothing.
It’s all part of the same pattern: rules for us, but not for them. We just have to see it for what it is and stop expecting anything different.
I believe Biden has weaponized federal agencies to suit his whims, and I don’t use the term "weaponized" lightly. My God, he’s been going after Trump since the moment he stepped into the White House, and he’s done it over and over again.Biden is a wrong by doing this. It is the way to corruption. If a president is going to pardon friends and family the road to dictatorship is open.
Same with making a president immune for the law while in office."Same with making a president immune for the law while in office."
I would agree with you except that Democrats here have opened the door and given examples of just how to keep a President busy defending himself from bogus claims - busy to the point that there is no time left to do anything but appear in the faux courtrooms across the nation.
If that is how the game is to be played (and it is) then our President MUST have immunity in order to do his job.This immunity is for all presidents to come Wilderness. You are okay with a dictator president who commits crimes and will gets away with it, because he/she is above the law?
Step outside the Republican/Democrat idea. The idea of an immune president is like a god/king, untouchable.From 'outside' the Republican and Democrat idea, and the hyperbole pushed by both, the Court's immunity ruling seems right. It was not for the blanket immunity of your god/king comparison.
Our Constitution offers controlling mechanisms through the Courts and Congress to draw the line between an official act and a personal act. We have been watching those mechanisms work, in prime time, for the last 8 years.
GABut this courts ruling will be for all presidents to come. It's not a temporary thing. Don''t you think that it is possible that it stretches the power of a president and so undermining the democratic processes of the government? Or do you think that the Supreme court and the constitution is robust enough to prevent the misuse of power.
Suddenly I have to think about the whole Nixon and Watergate case. I can imagine an immunity mechanism could have been a great help for Nixon.My support for limited presidential immunity (for official acts) was for all presidents, current and future, not specific to President Trump. And it is because I believe our Constitution is robust enough to handle challenges like this. As said, I think we have seen it working as designed for all of the 'Trump" years.
For parameters, consider these examples: Nixon's acts were a crime, Trump's Georgia election interference case might have been a crime, and Obama's drone strike on a family in a car was not a crime. Trump and Obama can legitimately claim their acts were official capacity acts, Nixon could not. As I see it.
Purge Trump and any thoughts of benefits to him and take a look at the 'official acts' narrative in the Court's official ruling. I think you might agree, or at least see the logic of their ruling. And also, that their narrative would not apply to Nixon's crime.
GAThanks GA for your view. I hope the constitution will be robust enough too. My concern is for the future presidents that will test the limit of what you call an "official act".
Any predictions on the many Biden will pardon on the way out? I predict much of his family will get pardons ---- Oversight investigations allege that money was funneled through numerous LLCs set up by the family, with at least nine family members reportedly benefiting from these transactions. In one instance, Joe Biden's granddaughter reportedly received a wire transfer originating from a Romanian entity.
Not sure he will pardon those that are being mentioned in media reports, sure as Liz Cheney--- I don't think he will toss them a lifeline.You have to ask yourself if biden is willing to pardon people NOT accused of committing a crime...exactly what have they done? Why would they need some sort of a pardon?
It's almost like giving hunter a blanket pardon for a decade. He was found guilty of gun violations and tax fraud. You have to ask yourself what crime he has committed during the past decade that he would need to have a pardon for.
A blanket pardon for a decade is the longest time a pardon has covered in the history of the United States.
The biden crime family is certainly covering their tracks.I've been following the Congressional investigations into the Biden family, reading the under-oath testimonies, and going through all the bank documents and records of these shell companies that didn’t seem to offer any real business. After seeing all that, I have no doubt the family was involved in pay-for-play schemes. It was also pretty clear that Congress knew the DOJ under Biden wouldn’t prosecute. Maybe they were just waiting for a new Republican AG to take over and bring the case. But honestly, it might not matter if Biden ends up pardoning the whole family, even the members we’ve never heard of. My guess is he’ll pardon them all.
I did some looking into preemptive pardons--- A preemptive pardon refers to a pardon granted before an individual is formally charged with or convicted of a crime. It is essentially a proactive measure taken by the president or another authority to forgive someone for potential future offenses. The goal is to prevent legal consequences for actions that might occur later, offering immunity from prosecution before any charges are filed. Preemptive pardons are rare but can be used in specific cases, such as to prevent politically motivated prosecutions or to settle controversies before they escalate.
Yes, a preemptive pardon is legal in the United States, as long as it is issued by the president. The U.S. Constitution grants the president broad clemency powers under Article II, Section 2, which allows for the granting of pardons for federal offenses, except in cases of impeachment. There is no explicit language in the Constitution that limits pardons to post-conviction or after charges have been filed, so a president has the authority to issue a pardon before any crime is formally charged or proven in court.
However, the legality and appropriateness of preemptive pardons could be questioned, especially if they are perceived as an abuse of power or as a means of protecting an individual from potential legal accountability. While they may be constitutional, preemptive pardons can raise ethical, political, and public concerns. Most likely end up in the Supreme Court.Shar,
Thanks for providing some depth on this topic.
Let's see what happens. It's all speculation at this point. This could also be a political move. They let a rumor into the press to see the reaction to it before deciding anything.
With biden's cognitive decline and his inability to articulate anything, I doubt he's making any types of real decisions. It does make you wonder who is actually running the country.I agree. Biden likely doesn’t even choose the flavor of ice cream he enjoys.
As for the new Attorney General, it’s speculative what direction they’ll take with the Biden family investigation. I don’t often make predictions, but I have a feeling they’ll take a serious look at the Congressional findings. These findings consist of numerous documents and firsthand testimony, offering substantial evidence to pursue action against them. While the media has downplayed much of this as insignificant, common sense leads me to believe the evidence is solid based on what I’ve read.
To be fair to Joe Biden, most fathers in general would do anything within their power to protect their own children, regardless how how old they are. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I can understand where he's coming from. He knows his time as president is coming to an end soon, so he probably wants to make measures to ensure his son will be safe when he leaves office.
The case against the Bidens was built on lies. I'd like to know if Comer and Jordan knowingly put forth "informants" such as Alexander Smirnov who is set to plead guilty to four charges, including tax evasion and obstructing justice by providing false information to the FBI about the Biden's . This is the reason Hunter required a pardon.
So, if Hunter Biden had beaten our Capitol police with their own shields, American flags and fire extinguishers during a deadly attack on our Capitol designed to overturn the results of a legitimate presidential election… he would deserve a pardon?
I'd question the judgment and mentality of any father who wouldn't act to protect his son, a private citizen and recovering addict from charges that would have never been brought if he were anyone else. People are almost never brought to trial on felony charges solely for how they filled out a gun form..."would have never been brought if he were anyone else"
I disagree strongly with that one. There is no doubt he intentionally filled out the gun form wrong. There is also no doubt about his tax evasion. It was so blatant that when a deal was agreed to the DOJ back out of it as hunter's deeds were much too obvious.
Yeah, many people who have done the exact same thing have served jail time for doing the things hunter biden has done.
His pardon is for the past 11 years...that is unprecedented.
If someone claimed they would never pardon the Jan 6 political prisoners and then did pardon them, it would be similar to this case.One year ago, Kash Patel, while sniffling repeatedly as he does in every interview (gosh he just can’t shake that cold) promised to prosecute Hunter for new crimes. Then Trump names him FBI Director. He told us ahead of time he’s going after Hunter... So tired of the pearl clutchers.
We must never forget...
https://x.com/mjfree/status/1863295448733126954President Trump has indeed promised to pardon many individuals involved in the January 6th Capitol riot if he were to be re-elected. During his 2024 campaign, he repeatedly stated that he would offer pardons to those who participated in the attack, calling them "political prisoners" and expressing sympathy for their actions. While Trump has been somewhat vague about the details, mentioning that he might not pardon those who "got out of control," he has generally suggested that a broad swath of the defendants would receive clemency. Politico
In my view, the difference is that when Trump makes a promise or commitment, he typically follows through with it, whereas Biden has repeatedly lied about key issues. For example, Biden consistently stated that he would not pardon his son Hunter, only to do so later. Trump, by contrast, has made his intentions clear about pardoning those involved in the January 6th events, and his supporters expect him to act on those promises if he were re-elected. Unlike Biden, who misled the public about his actions, Trump tends to be more direct about his plans, even if they’re controversial. This consistency in his actions is a notable contrast to Biden’s repeated falsehoods.The difference in Biden's position on the pardon now? trump has put up kash patel to head the FBI. A man who has promised to continue pursuing Hunter Biden. What would you do? Enough is enough already. The man paid his back taxes along with all penalties. And I believe there was only one other individual in the history of the state of Delaware charged with the same gun charges as Hunter... And that individual's charge was dropped. Joe Biden did the right thing. He put his child first. Good on him. Most of us would do the same.
You do realize the pardon covers more than the tax charges and gun charges? It covers anything hunter did for the past 11 years. There has never been such a sweeping pardon in the history of the United States. hunter wouldn't go to jail because of the gun charges but because of the tax evasion. Many people have gone to jail for committing the same offense.
With such a sweeping pardon, makes you wonder what things ole hunter has been up to for the past 11 years.Hunter Biden was pardoned by President Joe Biden on December 1, 2024, covering gun and tax-related crimes. While this decision grants him sweeping legal protection for actions from 2014 to 2024, it does not directly impact the ongoing investigations into the Biden family's alleged involvement in pay-for-play schemes. Congressional probes into Joe Biden's potential role in these matters would continue independently, as presidential pardons do not extend to family members' actions under investigation unless directly connected. Therefore, the investigations into Joe and his brother will continue despite the pardon. I would not think Congress would stop their investigation into the Biden family, they have collected tons of information that incriminates them. I don't see any problem with the New AG bringing charges against several Biden's.
I would not think Congress would stop their investigation into the Biden family, they have collected tons of information that incriminates them. I don't see any problem with the New AG bringing charges against several Biden's.
Collected tons of information? That has amounted to what? Nothing but comical farces of hearings conducted by jesters Comer and Jordan. Oh please, bring It on. There's so much appetite for that in the country right? No more "look here not there". Folks are sitting patiently, for the moment, for their energy prices to drop in half, grocery prices to dramatically decrease, gas prices to drop, the middle class tax cut to go into action, mortgage rates cut, homes more affordable and so on....on day one. He was hired for the giveaways. Not the committees.
No one is waiting for the idiocy of more maga hearings. They failed spectacularly over the last 4 years to prove anything.Just shared my thoughts --- I would not think Congress would stop their investigation into the Biden family, they have collected tons of information that incriminates them. I don't see any problem with the New AG bringing charges against several Biden's. Hey, we will have a new AG, and she is MAGA. So I do feel they will continue to investigate the Biden's.
Just wonder what you would be saying if this was Trump pardoning his son... Oh, his son broke no laws, he pays his taxes, and no gun charges.
The focus here is on Biden’s repeated false statements about not pardoning Hunter. He clearly lied on multiple occasions when he promised he would not use his presidential power to pardon his son. Despite these claims, the pardon happened, and it’s crucial to hold him accountable for those lies. The issue isn’t just about Hunter or the specifics of his case; it’s about the broader pattern of dishonesty that undermines trust in the leadership. By repeatedly assuring the public that he wouldn’t interfere, Biden misled the American people, and that should be the subject of scrutiny, not distractions or deflections. The repeated nature of these lies is what stands out.
Hunter Biden owed approximately $1.4 million in unpaid federal taxes for the years 2016 to 2019, which he admitted to during his plea agreement in 2023. This was a serious crime and would have entailed prison. Regarding the gun charge I can agree, that there is a low rate of any type of punishment.... The Tax fraud is another story. He would have most likely gone to prison. And rightfully so.
I am unable to find any instance of an individual being jailed with the circumstances being the taxes were repaid in full plus fines and penalties BEFORE litigation.
"Mr. Biden’s failure to pay all his taxes has been a focus of the ongoing Justice Department investigation. While wiping out his liability does not preclude criminal charges against him, the payment could make it harder for prosecutors to win a conviction or a long sentence for tax-related offenses, according to tax law experts, since juries and judges tend to be more sympathetic to defendants who have paid their bills.".I have never found any information from the IRS that Hunter paid the backs taxes, only a NYT article. This is not really any indication the taxes were paid --- this far this is what IRS has offered.
Robert Hunter Biden (Hunter Biden) pleaded guilty in federal court in Los Angeles this afternoon to all counts in a nine-count indictment, including three felony tax offenses and six misdemeanor tax offenses. There was no plea agreement.
Judge Scarsi accepted the defendant’s guilty plea and scheduled sentencing for December 16, 2024.
According to the indictment, Hunter Biden engaged in a four-year scheme in which he chose not to pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019 and to evade the assessment of taxes for tax year 2018 when he filed false returns. As alleged in the indictment, to further this scheme, Hunter Biden:
subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company by withdrawing millions outside of the payroll and tax withholding process;
spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills;
in 2018, stopped paying his outstanding and overdue taxes for tax year 2015;
willfully failed to pay his 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 taxes on time, despite having access to funds to pay some or all of these taxes;
willfully failed to file his 2017 and 2018 tax returns, on time; and
when he did finally file his 2018 returns, included false business deductions in order to reduce the very substantial tax liability he faced as of February 2020.
At sentencing, Hunter Biden faces a maximum penalty of 17 years in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
Court documents and information for this case is located on the website of the District Court for the Central District of California or on PACER by searching for Case No. 2:23-cr-00599."
In a typical year 300 – 500 Americans are sentenced for tax fraud, with a median sentence of 16 months, according to the United States Sentencing Commission.
363 Americans were sentenced for tax fraud in 2023, according to the Commission.
“The average sentence length for individuals sentenced for tax fraud was 16 months,” and “the median loss for these offenses was $358,827.”
Let’s look at a few major tax fraud examples from 2023 and 2024 and see how they compare with Hunter Biden’s non-punishment:
–A Nevada owner of Mexican restaurants was sentenced to 37 months in prison for evading federal income tax, causing a tax loss of $1.6 million.
–Two owners of a Philadelphia cheesesteak restaurant were each sentenced to 20 months in prison for tax fraud, causing a tax loss of $1.3 million.
–A North Carolina man was sentenced to three years in prison for tax crimes where he owed $380,000 to the IRS and the state of California.
–An ambulance company owner was sentenced to 78 months in prison for tax evasion, causing a tax loss of $1.5 million.
–A Michigan man was sentenced to 18 months in prison for filing false tax returns.
Due to the Biden family pardon, Hunter Biden will serve zero months for his major tax crimes. He was indeed “treated differently.”"Although Hunter Biden eventually paid back all his back taxes and penalties with the help of a third party -- identified by ABC News as Hunter Biden confidant Kevin Morris -- Judge Scarsi blocked defense attorneys from introducing that information to a jury."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/jury-selectio … =113404001
Geez, I think this might help cool you down Mike:
How to Talk to Your Racist MAGA Uncle This Thanksgiving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4IYJaCHa9EIt was just not worth a smile or a chuckle. Too much work and I feel lazy today.
OK ... maybe this one is better, watch the reaction, I think this is CNN
https://youtu.be/L2bgAoaHB8g?t=89
"How could democrats be so wrong about so much""
You just put a felon in the White House.You let a corrupt judicial system find guilt where there was none simply for political gain.
Why is the judicial system or any system for that matter only corrupt when the findings aren't to magas liking?? Just like on election night when trump started to whine about fraud until he took a lead...it's very phony
The convictions will be overturned on appeal because they distorted the law, abused the process, for political gain.
The NY Courts are now considered Banana Republic 3rd world corrupt jokes.
The majority of people saw the sham for what it was...
The sad people who believe the criminally corrupt media that have colluded with and covered for this administration, have a long hard trek ahead of them... sooner or later they will have to come to accept the reality , the depths of the corruption, the cover-ups, the severity of the betrayal of the Democratic Party... the Biden Administration, which is merely a continuation and collaboration of the Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer, etc.
It's time people realize hunter broke real laws, no conjured up situations like with President Donald Trump.
"Federal judge accuses President Biden of attempting to 'rewrite history' in Hunter Biden pardon
Scarsi accused President Biden of 'rewriting history' with the pardon of his son, Hunter
"According to the President, ‘[n]o reasonable person who looks at the facts of [Mr. Biden’s] cases can reach any other conclusion than [Mr. Biden] was singled out only because he is [the President’s] son.’ But two federal judges expressly rejected Biden’s arguments that the Government prosecuted Mr. Biden because of his familial relation to the President. And the President’s own Attorney General and Department of Justice personnel oversaw the investigation leading to the charges," Scarsi wrote.So... ever wonder how close we were to losing our freedoms and living in a tyranny... we were getting pretty close...
Never-Before-Told Details of Debanking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMHoqGBeaH0Here's hoping President Biden pardons every single person who is in the Felon's target for revenge.
That sounds rather bitter. Perhaps you just are not up for all the corruption laid out for all to see. My gosh
Not sure that is such a bad thing. Should Biden continue with his odious and obnoxious program I would expect that even die hard Democrats are going to open their eyes. The pure stench from such an event would be impossible to ignore.
Yes, I think in the end, even those who have blinkers on will see all the corruption we have had to put up with over the last 4 years. They were more than willing to look the other way at a clearly confused President. This is all so not only disturbing but odd.
So trump says that the J6 committee should be jailed. And stated this in relation to the incoming FBI director and AG..."I think that they’ll have to look at that..."
First, I'm wondering on what charges?
can't wait to hear the charges and see what evidence will go before a grand jury in order to get an indictment.
But also..does that mean mean the committee investigating Biden should be thrown in jail too? Congressional investigations will become illegal?If the January 6th Committee withheld testimony about Trump offering the National Guard for January 6th, it would raise significant questions about transparency and fairness. Such evidence could have impacted the narrative about Trump's role in the events. While withholding testimony isn't inherently a crime due to Congressional immunity for legislative activities, deliberate suppression of material evidence with intent to mislead could be viewed as unethical or potentially obstructive depending on the context and intent. This would likely require further investigation or legal scrutiny.
A recent report sheds light on evidence potentially withheld during the January 6th investigation by the House Select Committee. Key testimonies, such as that of former Deputy Chief of Staff Tony Ornato, reportedly affirm that Donald Trump offered National Guard troops to ensure security on January 6, 2021. This offer, estimated at 10,000 to 20,000 troops, was allegedly declined. Former Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and Chief of Staff Kash Patel also supported these claims, stating Trump initiated the discussion to address potential threats.
The report criticizes the Select Committee for not publicizing Ornato's testimony and other evidence, arguing that this omission shaped a predetermined narrative. Rep. Barry Loudermilk, leading a new investigation into the matter, highlighted the importance of uncovering all facts, regardless of their implications.
"Top Takeaways:
A January 6 committee staffer asked Ornato, “When it comes to the National Guard statement about having 10,000 troops or any other number of troops, do you recall any discussion prior to the 6th about whether and how many National Guard troops to deploy on January 6th?” Ornato surprised the committee by noting he did recall a conversation between Meadows and Bowser: “He was on the phone with her and wanted to make sure she had everything that she needed,” Ornato told investigators.
Meadows “wanted to know if she need any more guardsmen,” Ornato testified. “And I remember the number 10,000 coming up of, you know, ‘The president wants to make sure that you have enough.’ You know, ‘He is willing to ask for 10,000.’ I remember that number. Now that you said it, it reminded me of it. And that she was all set. She had, I think it was like 350 or so for intersection control, and those types of things not in the law enforcement capacity at the time.” Ornato was correct. Bowser declined the offer, asking only for a few hundred National Guard and requiring them to serve in a very limited capacity.
Bowser’s decision to decline help from the White House did not end the Trump team’s efforts to secure troops ahead of the protest. When the D.C. mayor declined Trump’s offer of 10,000 troops, Ornato said the White House requested a “quick reaction force” out of the Defense Department in case it was needed.
Once the Capitol was breached, the Trump White House pushed for immediate help from Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller and grew frustrated at the slow deployment of that help, according to the testimony. “So then I remember the chief saying, ‘Hey, I’m calling secretary of defense to get that [quick reaction force] in here,” Ornato said. Later he said, “And then I remember the chief telling Miller, ‘Get them in here, get them in here to secure the Capitol now.'”
Cheney and her committee falsely claimed they had “no evidence” to support Trump officials’ claims the White House had communicated its desire for 10,000 National Guard troops. In fact, an early transcribed interview conducted by the committee included precisely that evidence from a key source. The interview, which Cheney attended and personally participated in, was suppressed from public release until now." https://cha.house.gov/2024/3/chairman-l … -interview
I’m confident the new DOJ will review this matter. However, it’s possible Biden might issue preemptive pardons to everyone involved. The Democrats have been scrambling to cover up the mess they’ve created. They’ve weaponized government agencies, blatantly lied to the American people, and used every trick in the book to influence an election. They’ve embarrassed themselves, and it’s time they were held accountable and brought down a notch in the eyes of the country.
We will have the team in place to do just that.are you saying you support the jailing of the committee? What would the charge or charges be?
I don't think the public in general has a minutes worth of patience for any of that because you know...EGGSIf the DOJ determines that crimes were committed and are prosecutable, those responsible should be charged and given due process. Your egg analogy is irrelevant. The DOJ is an agency that operates independently and is not connected to the agency that deals with the economy.
The cost of living is a concern for many, as is the fear that the current administration has weaponized agencies and bent laws to fit their narrative. I believe this will be addressed in the new administration.
Surprise! Key Witness Reveals He Lied About Biden Corruption...
A former FBI informant has agreed to plead guilty to four federal charges after being accused of falsifying statements that in part spurred a GOP congressional investigation into the Biden family, according to newly filed court documents.
Alexander Smirnov’s deal, which must be accepted by a federal judge, would have him plead guilty to causing the creation of a fictitious record in a federal investigation and three counts of tax evasion.
Smirnov had relayed to the FBI that the head of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma told him he had paid both President Biden and his son Hunter Biden $5 million. The claims were false but became central to the congressional GOP probe of the Bidens.
In the new documents, Smirnov admitted to providing “false derogatory information” about the president and his son.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba … ad-guilty/"former FBI informant"
Not surprising. These people change their stories depending on how it benefits them. Makes sense this was a "former" FBI informant.I'm sure the guy will be pardoned on day one along the j6 rioters
Yeah, ah, he doesn't seem to have been convicted of a crime.
He took a plea deal..
Smirnov was charged in February with making false statements to his FBI handler by concocting "fabrications" about the president and his son accepting $5 million in bribes from the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma -- baseless allegations seized on by Republicans to fuel their now-stalled efforts to impeach President Biden.
According to the plea agreement filed Thursday, Smirnov has agreed to plead to Count 2 of his original indictment that charged him with creating a false and fictitious record in a federal investigation, as well as three counts from his indictment returned last month on tax-related charges.
As a result of the deal, Weiss will recommend Smirnov serve at least four years in prison but no more than six years, and pay more than $675,000 in restitution, according to the court filing.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-informant … =116724611
Mike, This link is very informative it's an actual timeline of Biden's dirty dealings. It is complete and it would be hard for anyone to walk away without seeing the truth of the pay-for-play scheme the Biden family perpetrated. The evidence is clear, along with bank records. https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens- … -timeline/
I don't give much air to liberals on this subject. Most have blinders on. They can argue around and around but never touch on the documentation of how much cash the Bidens pulled in, and the testimony of several, such as Tony Bobalinski. Anyway, this link offers the testimonies, and back records that prove the cash made by the Biden for doing nothing...Nothing visible.
Are all the bank records false? I have noted how you take an interest in letters written by prior CIA and such... Perhaps you trust Banks to report unsavory transactions, not prior bankers but banks ----- Banks filed over 150 Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) related to transactions involving Joe Biden's FAMILY, including his brother James Biden, and son Hunter Biden. (So, the bank reports were about the business dealings of the president’s son and brother — but not the president. ) So should Hunter have a blanket pardon? It is clear he needs one.
These reports, filed with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), flagged activities such as suspected shell companies, irregular wire transfers, and transactions inconsistent with business purposes. SARs are generated when financial institutions identify potential money laundering, fraud, or other unusual financial behaviors.
Does this concern you? No really...Are all the bank records false? I have noted how you take an interest in letters written by prior CIA and such... Perhaps you trust Banks to report unsavory transactions, not prior bankers but banks ----- Banks filed over 150 Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) related to transactions involving Joe Biden's family, including his brother James Biden and son Hunter Biden. These reports, filed with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), flagged activities such as suspected shell companies, irregular wire transfers, and transactions inconsistent with business purposes. SARs are generated when financial institutions identify potential money laundering, fraud, or other unusual financial behaviors.
Does this concern you? No really...SARs are reports filed by financial institutions to flag questionable banking transactions to the Treasury Department, but do not amount to allegations of crimes. These are essentially notices of unusual activity that investigators can use as tips or leads... not actual allegations of wrongdoing or criminal activity...
All bank transactions over $10,000 generate SARS. Almost any international businessman, large business, corporate lawyer, or investment banker will get several of them every week. Hunter Biden is a more than 50 year old internationally known businessman, corporate officer, and investor. It would be surprising if he and his businesses didn’t generate SARS....
Wonder how many SARS Trump's banking activity accrued this year?
SARS don't suggest any criminality. None of those reports resulted in any criminal investigation. Republicans KNOW this, so they released that information hoping the unwitting will INFER some crime, because Comer & crew haven't found ANY CRIMES associated with the SARS. Yes, the committee's obfuscation concerns me.SARs are reports filed by financial institutions to flag questionable banking transactions to the Treasury Department, but do not amount to allegations of crimes. True, and Hunter was on radar due to a historic number of SARs LOL Google does give wonderful definitions --- but ya need to know a bit more about SARs to discuss them.
While Hunter has held roles in various firms, the scope of his leadership and investment activity does not match the profile of a high-ranking, internationally influential corporate officer. His business ventures have been controversial and have led to scrutiny from political opponents, but they haven't significantly shaped the global corporate landscape in the way typically associated with prominent business figures."but ya need to know a bit more about SARs to discuss them. "
Like what? That dollar amount thresholds trigger such reports? And that they do not necessarily indicate criminality? I think that covers it.Water under the bridge the slime has been pardoned.
It is highly unusual for a single individual to have 150 Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) filed against them. SARs are typically generated when financial institutions identify transactions that appear irregular or potentially connected to criminal activity, such as money laundering, fraud, or large, unexplained transfers involving high-risk jurisdictions. The sheer volume of SARs associated with Hunter Biden has drawn significant scrutiny, as it far exceeds what most individuals or businesses would typically experience under normal circumstances.
When a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) is filed against a person's finances, it does not necessarily mean they have committed any illegal activities. SARs are generated by financial institutions when they notice unusual or potentially suspicious transactions. The purpose of these reports is to alert regulators and law enforcement to possible risks like money laundering, fraud, or other financial crimes. The filing of a SAR is not an accusation but rather a precautionary step that banks are legally required to take when they encounter red flags.
However, while a SAR in itself does not imply guilt, it causes concern if there are multiple reports or patterns of suspicious behavior. It leads to further investigation by law enforcement or regulatory agencies, which may probe deeper into the financial activities of the individual or business involved. As a rule, this is where crooks are caught, and end up being prosecuted. It would seem Hunter is off the hook due to his pardon.
You are in too deep again... Google can't provide an education in such a diverse issue. SARs are nothing to regard as casual.As a rule, this is where crooks are caught, and end up being prosecuted.
And yet Comer and crew came up empty. Based on your logic, a committee should be investigating Trump's sars
"Bank saw suspicious activity in Trump accounts"
"The transactions, some of which involved Trump’s now-defunct foundation, set off alerts in a computer system designed to detect illicit activity, according to five current and former bank employees. Compliance personnel who then reviewed the transactions prepared so-called suspicious-activity reports that they believed should be sent to a unit of the Treasury Department that polices financial crimes."
Alert the clown car...sars are nothing to regard as casual...
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/pol … 112605007/
You are in too deep again... Google can't provide an education in such a diverse issue.
Excuse me? So my knowledge of sars is attributed to Google but not your own?Back to Trump --- you have a severe case of TDS. Maybe move on. He is our new president. So buck up.
Why no scrutiny of his suspicious activity reports though? His are of no concern? If they are of the utmost importance concerning Hunter Biden, why not Trump's? This is where crooks are caught, right?
I have no issue with Trump—none at all. Honestly, I think you might want to seek help because I genuinely feel sorry for you. Like I said, he won, he’s our president now. It’s time to move on. There’s plenty of current political news to discuss, and it’s a bit discouraging that this forum hasn’t moved past Trump when most others moved on a while ago.
Apparently there was a huge problem with the suspicious activity reports of Hunter Biden as detailed in your previous post.
"it causes concern if there are multiple reports or patterns of suspicious behavior. It leads to further investigation by law enforcement or regulatory agencies,"
Just thought your feeling about these reports would also apply to Trump. As far as moving on from the past, I agree but Hunter Biden was brought up.. again. I believe there was a post pertaining to the new administration AG looking at past allegations and reopening a new committee to continue investigations of the past. Move on from anything Trump related bit not Biden related?
Remember when all those high ranking respectable Intelligence folks penned their names to a letter stating the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian hoax.
People who believed there was a laptop were just conspiracy loons.
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