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   arakkatharaposted 14 years ago

   The islands like japan, philippines, andaman,nikobar,lakhswadeep etc .which are same to the sea level will disappear with in 100 years, because of the damage of osonspheres. make awareness to this issue is the first thing we can do.

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      Pani Midnyte Odinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Pretty sure that's a myth, actually. See, they uncovered some hidden emails that changed the studies so they would make a profit or something. Not only that but, scientists are now prone to believe that the Earth is due for another Ice Age in a few thousand years.
      
      Wow, I just impressed myself by remembering something...
      
      Anyway, yeah, do some more research, conduct a few experiments or something... come back with proof and improved spelling/grammar... Then maybe, just MAYBE, I might take you seriously.

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         arakkatharaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         the temparature on earth, is going to be high.  that we can understand without any evidents. the scientists of western and eastern countries are unanimously accepts this phinomena. Hopefully the agenda of global meetings of politicians and scientists are seriously noticed these matters. so our experiments and reserches has not much importance.  any way thanks, for your positive replay and advice.

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         Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You are the one who needs to do a bit more research. And a little respect for non-native English speaking contributors from around the world would be nice.

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      china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I would still suggest you lose the gun picture and put up one of the more friendly ones

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      Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Okay, sorry Googled osonospheres and got a couple of wierd things, asking if I meant cenospreres, which by definition we are not one and sonospheres gave me theatres and ships from Holland... I am confused.
      
      Checked your hubs and they are only photos. Maybe write an article on this subject maybe that will get some views.

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      sOmE speLLing anD pUnctuaTioN wIll MAke yuOR CaSe MorE cOnViNcInG.
      
      Still crap case though

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         Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Why don't you explain your position instead of just taking your usual cheap shots. Your grammar isn't always the best, pal.

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      sannyasinmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, but this is bull****.
      You have fallen for the campaign of misinformation and propaganda put out by those who are trying to panick governments into taxing everyone to the eyeballs with the great man-made global warming scam.
      
      Global warming and global cooling are natural, they have been happening for thousand of years and they will continue. True, there is a global warming trend, but it started 300 years ago, and it is not man-made. It may also stop at any time, and go the other way. Such is the UNPREDICTABILITY of climate change.
      
      The alarmists and scaremongers of course don't tell you this.

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         Will Apseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I wonder why ordinary Americams with no scientific training or especially great interest in the subject are the only ones who are not concerned by the mass of data on the dangers of climate change?
         
         Is it that the SUV now is better than a planet worth living on for your children?
         
         The last sixty years has been a wild party as far as resource consumption is concerned. And someone needs to clean up a little.
         
         But it won't be the fat kids at the table who just enjoy being fat way too much.

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            thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Actually the 40 years before the last 60 years was the big party when it came to resource consumption, we have become much more efficient since then.
            
            There is surprisingly little data correlating the earths temperature with carbon or methane, especially since the earths temperature has dropped when (and after) carbon has been rising.
            
            The truth of the matter is however that the earth is emerging from the mini ice age which happened around the time of the dark ages.  Pretty soon it might be possible to grow palatable wine in England again.

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               Will Apseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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                  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Um, did you say "idiot"?

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                     A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     What do you think would happen to me if I said "Idiot"?

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                        Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Remember Tex, it's not paranoia if they're really after you

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                           A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           They're after me? Why didn't anyone tell me?

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            Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Good question, Will. Unfortunately, HubPages attracts a lot of conspiracy theorists, Tea Baggers and not very many scientists.

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      Lita C. Malicdemposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If you can come to my country, the Philippines, you'll think twice about your thoughts regarding the effect of global warming in this beautiful country. Anyways, thanks for mentioning my place.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      According to Milutin Milankovitch, a Serbian astronomer, mathematician, scientist, civil engineer and geophysicist, best known for his theory of ice ages,
      
      "Global Warming' is the result of the Earth moving closer to the Sun.
      Global warming and the Precession of the Equinox both have a common cause.
      The common cause is a natural astronomical cycle called "Orbital Variance. 
      Carbon emissions seriously magnify the issue but are not the primary cause of Global Warming."
      
      According to Milankovitch, we are at the 'tail end' of the most recent Ice Age and at the almost 'half way' point between the extremes of global tropical conditions and Ice Ages.
      His prognosis for the future of many major citys and ports is dire. Many will be inundated within the next 100 years.

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         Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         He may be correct, but my belief is that his is a minority view.

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Ralph:
            Do ya have anything to backup your belief?

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               Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Only what I've been reading in various newspapers and other publications.
               
               http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1113169/
               
               http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific … ate_change
               
               http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/ … index.html
               
               http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/1229 … scientists

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   Steve 3.0posted 14 years ago

   I still think it is impossible to predict the future.  Haven't seen anyone do it accurately yet.  The sea levels haven't changed much in the past 100 years, despite rising temperatures and reports that a lot of the ice is melting.  It is hard to measure sea levels, as the earth's tectonic plates are constantly shifting.  I remember reading that the north of the UK is getting higher and the south is sinking in to the sea but it will hopefully take a few million years.
   
   I also wonder how much global warming is being used by politicians to make us use less energy?  Oil will run out one day, this is a good way to charge us more and make it last longer.

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      arakkatharaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      may be your assumption is likely to be right, but the geographical studies,and results of the reserches and photos of National geography vedios shows the exact thing what is happening on earth. 650 crores of humanbeings are responsible for that. dont be ignore the truth. Do you think that National geographic media have any hidden political interest, i dont think so. the only thing we can do ie. make awareness through discussions, and through visual medias.

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         sannyasinmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You are right that we need to raise awarenessa about global warming.
         Yes indeed. There is no man-made global warming. It is a huge hoax and people need to be made aware of this.
         
         Regarding the scaremongering about Himalayan glaciers melting by 2035, Maldives Islands disappearing, polar bears dying and more, these are all extravagant exaggerations and completely UNTRUE.
         
         We should all be asking ourselves WHY the global warming alarmists want to frighten us with their exaggerations of an armageddon to hit us soon, unless the governments of the world take DRASTIC actions. Ask yourself "what is their agenda, what do they have to gain?" then do your own research on the Internet and you might find some disturbing (but truthful) answers.
         
         If you do, then please carry on raising awareness of this vital issue before its too late. But don't worry about the planet, or our life upon it. They will be just fine.   
         
         Video – Global Warming Doomsday Called Off
         http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … 407994295#
         
         Video - Oct 2009. Al Gore lies – Polar bears, rising sea levels, Greenland glaciers melting
         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHWvHVjhTsI

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   IzzyMposted 14 years ago

   I don't think all the evidence they have collected - and OK some of it was falsified - is wrong. The earth maybe is getting warmer, certainly we are experiencing climatic change. But throughout earth's history there has been climatic change and this is only a wobble.
   I don't think for a minute it is man-made, but at the same time I wouldn't diss the possibility of it happening.
   Remember it started off when scientists discovered holes in the ozone layer?
   Were there holes there before? Who knows?
   I've just written a hub about the icebergs breaking off in Antartica, and the scientists say it was not manmade, it has nothing to do with global warming even, but the interesting thing is that what happens at the south pole affects global weather, as is it in Antartica the deeper colder water that supplies oxygen to the oceans is produced.
   The latest iceberg positions could well affect global temperature over goodness knows how many years, as it is from the oceans the majority of carbon dioxide gets released into the atmosphere, not cows farting or factory emissons!

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   Faybe Bayposted 14 years ago

   Very Cold here in Florida. So I was never on the global warming band wagon, however, green technology is still the way to go, in spite of global warming issues or because of it, makes no difference. I have always said that the planet goes through phases, cold ones and hot ones, poles have even shifted which is why our axis is tilted and we have seasons, without which there would be no life as certain growth is dependent on these changes. A wide variety of plants will not germinate properly of not allowed a cold dormant season. Without plants no air, without climate changes no plants, no evolving to stronger plants and stronger adaptations of human and animal species.

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   maven101posted 14 years ago

   sannyasinman has written:
   
   " We should all be asking ourselves WHY the global warming alarmists want to frighten us with their exaggerations of an armageddon to hit us soon, unless the governments of the world take DRASTIC actions. Ask yourself "what is their agenda, what do they have to gain?" then do your own research on the Internet and you might find some disturbing (but truthful) answers."
   
   This is very good advise...we should always ask the question " Who benefits ? " Obviously, folks like Al Gore and others of like ilk, have and are benefiting from this monstrous scam... Carbon credits, anyone ?...This whole idea of global warming is agenda driven, not an insular scientific research study that provides input from all the various disciplines of weather and earth studies...appealing to peoples emotions with phony pics of polar bears floating on a chunk of dissolving ice is ludicrous...Larry

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Yep, global warming/global cooling are created by the circle of the earth around the sun and the moon around the earth.  The earths temperature cycle was predicted around 800 years ago accurately, and we haven't deviated from that in teh last hundred years.
   
   The rise in carbon emmissions has been miniscule, still only a few parts per MILLION. The rice example is  apretty good indicator of this, some woman has a video on youtube showing a table piled high with bags of rice, and then a handfull of rice inn her hand, which relates to carbon.
   
   I could go on forever about global warming, their misuse of facts, and so forth.  The truth is that it's just another religion. It is a mass following that contradicts scientific fact, that has been manipulated and perpetuated by governments. The people who follow the global warming religion also do the equivalent of prayer. They believe that by fighting for changes in some minor element they will be able to avert disaster and death from global warming, much like religious people pray for an afterlife.
   
   I think I might be on to my next hub here.
   
   The day I accept Global warming  as a truth is the day that..
   
   The official bodies that study it are opened up to opposed debate. Currently the governments scientific bodies in the UK and across the pond are hand picked to agree with each other, and those that disagree those their grants, are fired, or threatened with either of those.
   
   Global warming research is done by teams which have consultancy from other factors known to affect the earths temperature.  One GW report in america went as far as saying the distance from the earth to the sun was 'irrelevant' to the earths temperature.
   
   The scientific consensus agrees with global warming, currently it is only the minority who agree with global warming, and most of those are the people whos jobs rely on global warming being caused by certain elements, go figure.

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      EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You got it!  And buying carbon offsets is the equivalent of saying "Hail Mary's".

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         itakinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Not quite-you have a lot more to lose by buying carbon offsets.

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      Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And the deniers are paid by Exxon, the electric power and coal industries in campaigns orchestrated by none other than the same paid liars who helped the tobacco companies with their campaign to prove that tobacco smoke didn't cause lung cancer.
      
      Since the late 1980s, this well-coordinated, well-funded campaign by contrarian scientists, free-market think tanks and industry has created a paralyzing fog of doubt around climate change. Through advertisements, op-eds, lobbying and media attention, greenhouse doubters (they hate being called deniers) argued first that the world is not warming; measurements indicating otherwise are flawed, they said. Then they claimed that any warming is natural, not caused by human activities. Now they contend that the looming warming will be minuscule and harmless. "They patterned what they did after the tobacco industry," says former senator Tim Wirth, who spearheaded environmental issues as an under secretary of State in the Clinton administration. "Both figured, sow enough doubt, call the science uncertain and in dispute. That's had a huge impact on both the public and Congress."
      
      [From Newsweek Magazine]
      
      http://www.newsweek.com/id/32482
      
      From Huffington Post:
      
      According to a new survey, the number of Americans who believe that climate change is connected to human-caused pollution (AKA Global Warming) is at its lowest point in three years. Only 57% of Americans now believe this inconvenient truth -- down from 77% in 2006, when Al Gore's film was released.
      
      Maybe this disturbing trend is due to climate lobbyists and certain conservative politicians and pundits going all out for years now, trying to persuade the public that the growing mountain of scientific evidence supporting global warming is FAKE. Says climate professor Andrew Weaver, "It's a combination of poor communication by scientists, a lousy summer in the Eastern United States, people mixing up weather and climate and a full-court press by public relations firms and lobby groups trying to instill a sense of uncertainty and confusion in the public."
      
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/2 … 30614.html

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         blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         to validate ralph.  not that he needs any validation:
         
         http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/03/01-8
         
         of course, no witch hunt would be complete without a few campaign contributions:
         
         http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/ … =N00005582

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         EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         In which case, Exxon's left hand clearly doesn't know what its right hand is doing, because Exxon's chief executive actually wants a carbon tax.  (And anyone who wants a carbon tax must agree with the premise that global warming is man-made, right?)
         
         http://greenenergyreporter.com/2009/11/ … arbon-tax/

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            Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I think the point here is that Exxon has BOTH a "right" and "left" hand

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               Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I'm sure whatever is motivating Exxon wrt a carbon tax has nothing to do with the public interest or their belief or lack of belief in global warming.

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                  EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  So you're happy to believe the worst about Exxon, yet you don't find it at all dodgy that the likes of Al Gore stand to make immense profits from cap 'n' trade?

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                     Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Al Gore sits on the board of Apple Computer. Apple has certain guidelines that requires their partners and developers to be "green" to a certain degree. When asked at the last annual meeting by a concerned shareholder why Apple didn't hold itself to the same green standards that it required of it's partners and developers, Gore answered that Apple didn't have to "as long as we make them do it"
                     
                     

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                     Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I'm not aware that Al Gore stands to make millions from cap and trade. I thought the big supporters are Goldmine Sucks and the rest of the Wall Street Banksters. I'm not sure at all that cap and trade which is good in theory would work very well in practice. Too many of the projects that sell credits to polluters are phony and/or unverified.
                     
                     I'd be interested in your source for the millions Gore stands to make from cap and trade. [I'm not denying that this is fact, but would like to see some evidence.]

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                        EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        http://greenhellblog.com/2009/04/24/gor … -finances/
                        
                        "Rep. Blackburn: So you’re a partner in Kleiner Perkins. OK. Now they have invested about a billion dollars in 40 companies that are going to benefit from cap-and-trade legislation. So is the legislation that we are discussing here today, is that something that you are going to personally benefit from?
                        
                        Al Gore: [Sigh]… I believe that the transition to a green economy is good for our economy and good for all of us. And I have invested in it. But every penny that I have made, I have put right into a nonprofit*, the Alliance for Climate Protection, to spread awareness of why we have to take on this challenge. And, Congresswoman, if you’re… if you believe that the reason I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed, you don’t know me."
                        
                        *Not true, as this article shows:
                        
                        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= … refer=home

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                           Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Al's interested in 'green' alright.

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                              EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              That's "green" as in rectangular bits of paper with George Washington on them?

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                                 Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 Ah, you are familiar with the 'movement'?

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                                    EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    
                                    
                                    Believe it or not, I used to be a card-carrying green activist - I was a member of a Friends of the Earth local group back in the late 80s/early 90s and used to believe implicitly in the idea of man-made global warming.
                                    
                                    I still think we should look after our environment, but I don't like the idea of carbon tax/carbon trading (even if man-made global warming *were* a reality, all it would do is make a few people rich at the expense of the rest of us, and move the problem around rather than solving it).
                                    
                                    I also think that in a lot (not all) cases, legislation isn't the answer.

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                           thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Hahahaha yeah, every penny is reinvested I'm sure.

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                              StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              Morning Oli!!

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                                 thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 Good Morning Stormy :p
                                 
                                 Hows the head this morning?

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                           Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Thanks, EF. I don't think that Gore's investments in green technology necessarily show that his crusade is not sincere. His interest in the environment dates back to when he was in college. I'm sure that his investments and financial transactions and tax returns will be scrutinized carefully and anything improprieties or illegalities will not be ignored.

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                              Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              He also invented the internet

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                                 EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 

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                     Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes, I'm happy to believe the worst about Exxon based on my personal knowledge as a longtime stockholder, my dad's career with Exxon and my birth in the dispensary of Exxon's refinery in Aruba. I know quite a lot, good and bad, about Exxon.

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                        A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        But you need proof of Al Gore's cashing in on the hoax that is Global Warming? Typical.

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                           Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Yeah, you got any? Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and the oil, coal and electric companies are all cashing in on the issue in different ways.

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                              A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              You would ignore any proof brought to your attention! How do I know? If you haven't seen or heard the proof before this day then you are ignoring it.

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   thisisoli wrote "I could go on forever about global warming, their misuse of facts, and so forth.  The truth is that it's just another religion. It is a mass following that contradicts scientific fact, that has been manipulated and perpetuated by governments. The people who follow the global warming religion also do the equivalent of prayer. They believe that by fighting for changes in some minor element they will be able to avert disaster and death from global warming, much like religious people pray for an afterlife."
   
   I'm glad somebody finally said it. Phew!

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   Will Apseposted 14 years ago

   thisisoli wrote:
   I could go on forever about global warming, their misuse of facts, and so forth.  The truth is that it's just another religion.
   
   I have to say it Thisisoli, even though it pains me. You are an idiot. There is nothing wrong with being an idiot- if you keep it to yourself. But idiots making such confident and foolish statements are something else.
   
   You are aware that there is not one national scientific organisation that doesn't consider global warming a danger to humanity? All of the National Academies of Science of the major countries eg the US, UK, France are agreed along with every other country with a National Academy to call its own.
   
   To suggest that serious anxiety about global warming is a minority concern is to reverse the poles of reality.
   
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   June, 2009--In a joint statement, the science academies of the G8 countries, plus Brazil, China, India, Mexico, and South Africa, called on their leaders to "seize all opportunities" to address global climate change that "is happening even faster than previously estimated." The signers, which include U.S. National Academy of Sciences President Ralph J. Cicerone, urged nations at the upcoming Copenhagen climate talks to adopt goals aimed at reducing global emissions by 50 percent by 2050
   
   http://dels.nas.edu/climatechange/
   
   Copenhagen may have been our last chance. The Chinese said no.
   
   The west is now too weak to stop China setting its narrow national goals above the welfare of the planet.
   
   Those hanging chads and political chicaneries in Florida ten ago may have sealed the fate of the human race.

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      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "Those hanging chads and political chicaneries in Florida ten ago may have sealed the fate of the human race."
      
      
      LOL! Funny stuff!

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      thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Will you might call me an idiot but at least I am not one of the idiots who follows the global warming myth. At least I can take an overview of the earths warming situation, and match it up with orbital estimates, rather than pinning it on carbon Which has given the countries backing carbon global warming theory another stealth tax on both public and businesses.)
      
      There are plenty of scientific organizations that have wanted nothing to do with global warming, including the majority of the scientific departments in universities.
      
      The UK government has currently been pulled to task for inappropriate scientific bias in the global warming debate. And despite the politicians claiming global warming is happening faster than previously estimated, not a single global warming temperature prediction has come true for more than a year in advance.
      
      Personally I think there is much more investment needed in tackling pollution in general rather than going after carbon which is a relatively non-toxic pollution. Saving the barrier reef and spending the public coffer on replanting the rain forests would solve some of the more serious issues facing mankind.

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         blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         please tell us which part of barrier reef destruction is not related to global warming. 
         
         http://www.uq.edu.au/news/?article=2000
         
         there's more, if you need it.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Hey Bluedog! I love you!

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      china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Nobody at the table is NOT looking after their own narrow national interests, this is the sum of the problem.

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   Will Apseposted 14 years ago

   "Those hanging chads and political chicaneries in Florida ten ago may have sealed the fate of the human race."
   
   
   LOL! Funny stuff!
   
   Thanks for your contribution to the debate, oh masked one.

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      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for replying in these last fleeting moments before the world ends!
      
      AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Tom Cornettposted 14 years ago

    Chicken Little....cluck...cluck....club...glub...glub! 

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    Ralph Deedsposted 14 years ago

    It would be an enormous relief if the recent attacks on the science of global warming actually indicated that we do not face an unimaginable calamity requiring large-scale, preventive measures to protect human civilization as we know it.
    
    Of course, we would still need to deal with the national security risks of our growing dependence on a global oil market dominated by dwindling reserves in the most unstable region of the world, and the economic risks of sending hundreds of billions of dollars a year overseas in return for that oil. And we would still trail China in the race to develop smart grids, fast trains, solar power, wind, geothermal and other renewable sources of energy — the most important sources of new jobs in the 21st century.
    
    But what a burden would be lifted! We would no longer have to worry that our grandchildren would one day look back on us as a criminal generation that had selfishly and blithely ignored clear warnings that their fate was in our hands. We could instead celebrate the naysayers who had doggedly persisted in proving that every major National Academy of Sciences report on climate change had simply made a huge mistake.
    
    I, for one, genuinely wish that the climate crisis were an illusion. But unfortunately, the reality of the danger we are courting has not been changed by the discovery of at least two mistakes in the thousands of pages of careful scientific work over the last 22 years by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. In fact, the crisis is still growing because we are continuing to dump 90 million tons of global-warming pollution every 24 hours into the atmosphere — as if it were an open sewer.
    
    Al Gore Op-ed
    
    
    
    
    
    
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/opini … amp;st=cse

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    ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

    I shouldn't be surprised that you got suckered in by Al Gore, Ralph, but it's still a disappointment.  You can rejoice though, for salvation is at hand.  Did you by chance notice a recent report that shows thermostat placement around the world in many cases violates the standards put forth by the National Weather Service.  So if we can't trust the data collected by these stations, how can we say with certainty: 'The debate is over'?
    
    http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress. … ring09.pdf
    
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini … 66937.html
    
    
    
    I hope this gives you a sense of enormous relief.  It would do my heart good to thing that I've taken such a heavy burden off you and you're able to view the future a little more hopeful than before.

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       The fact remains, your view is that of a small minority. Most scientists believe there is cause, based on the evidence, for concern. You've been deluded by propaganda from the oil, coal, electric power industries and by a tiny minority of denier- scientists. Gore has a Nobel Prize. What are your credentials? Or those of other deniers?

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          thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          And you haven't been deluded by political propaganda?

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             Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Nope! Not on global climate.

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          ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah Al has his Nobel Prize, so does Obama, which shows the depths to which the Nobel Committee has fallen.  As for my views being that of a small minority, didn't you say that about the Tea Party?  Guess you were wrong about that one.  What else are you wrong about, Ralph.  Sooner or later reality is going to have to intrude on the Progressive la-la land you live in.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    Aren't we fortunate to have so many experts here?

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       A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       We have experts on many things,economists,scientists,religion, its almost like College for the completely stupid!

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       Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       What experts? I don't see any

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    ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

    Ralph fails when it comes to Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit. Specifically Numbers 1 and 3, possibly 5 as well:
    
    http://users.tpg.com.au/users/tps-seti/baloney.html
    
    

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    blue dogposted 14 years ago

    its quite fitting that ldt would have a connection to baloney.

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       ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       No need to thank me BD, I was inspired by your example of massive amounts of baloney.

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    MikeNVposted 14 years ago

    No matter what you do the Earth will change.  Can we control Earth quakes?
    
    Stories released today all over the Net about how the Chile Earthquake shifted the Earth's Axis.
    
    Islands form, water levels rise and fall, March 2 2010 anywhere in the World... what is the temperature today.  Next year it will be different on this same day... higher or lower.
    
    If it were not for change we might be running from Dinosaurs... assuming we even existed.
    
    Man can't do anything, but sit back and watch and adjust until the race is ultimately wiped off the planet.

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