Trump, MAGA, and The Pledge of Alligiance
There is a picture of Trump embracing the American Flag while wearing a MAGA hat. For me, this image symbolizes a contradiction. I’m not convinced he has ever truly reflected on the words of the Pledge of Allegiance. Let’s examine those words in detail:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America...…
Some observers note that Trump often frames political discourse in terms of personal loyalty to him, rather than to the nation as a whole. For example, in a 2019 speech, he told Republican lawmakers, “You’re not loyal to me, you’re not loyal to the country.
Trump’s rhetoric often emphasizes division rather than unity among Americans. His comments after the 2017 Charlottesville rally, where he stated there were “very fine people on both sides,” and his labeling of critics as “enemies of the people,” have been cited as examples of fostering an “us versus them” mentality.
And to the republic for which it stands...
A republic is a system in which people have representation in government. Some critics argue that Trump’s leadership style resembles that of a monarch due to his approach to executive power. For instance, his use of executive orders to bypass Congress on issues like immigration, or his assertion of broad presidential powers during the impeachment proceedings, have prompted concerns about checks and balances among the branches of government.
One nation under God…
There are moments when Trump’s rhetoric takes on an almost messianic tone, such as when he proclaimed during the 2016 Republican National Convention, “I alone can fix it,” in reference to America’s challenges.
With liberty and justice for all....
Trump’s decision to pardon individuals involved in the January 6th Capitol attack, and his statements about the judicial system being “rigged” against him, have fueled debate about justice and equal treatment under the law. At the same time, the Supreme Court’s ruling granting former presidents immunity for certain official acts, and the delays in his criminal cases, have become focal points in discussions about accountability.Your perspective is not wrong.
To say that Trump has a massive ego would not be an over statement IMO.
It might be that we need ...someone so full of himself that nothing can shake his belief or resolve.
To steer the Nation through these incredibly difficult times... To never flinch in the face of adversity, whether it comes from Democrats in Congress trying to impeach him or an assassins bullet just missing him.
I don't know ... I can only hope... that he will guide us through the years ahead and avoid a world war that leaves hundreds of millions dead and suffering... that he finds a way around the economy collapsing into a deep Depression...
He may be what America needs in this moment.
Either way... He is what we got.
I hear this argument a lot, and frankly, it misses the forest for the trees. Let’s start with the image: Trump hugging the American flag in a MAGA hat. You see contradiction, I see symbolism. For decades, we’ve had leaders who only paid lip service to patriotism while selling out the very people that flag represents. Trump’s embrace isn’t performative, it’s a statement: “I’m with the country, not the elite class that treats America like just another line on a balance sheet.”
Now, on loyalty. Critics love to repeat that line, “You’re not loyal to me, you’re not loyal to the country.” But let’s put that in context. Trump wasn’t saying America = Trump. He was calling out Republicans who campaign on conservative values, cash in on voters’ trust, then stab their base in the back the second D.C. insiders snap their fingers. Was he blunt about it? Absolutely. But sometimes blunt truth is exactly what’s needed. Loyalty to the voters is loyalty to the country, and that’s what Trump was demanding.
Charlottesville gets dragged up every time. Let’s be clear: the media deliberately twisted his words. He condemned neo-Nazis and white supremacists in the same breath. The “very fine people” comment was about those debating monuments, not extremists. But the left weaponized that line because it fit their narrative. Division? The division was already there. Trump didn’t create it, he exposed it.
Now, about the republic and executive power. Funny how executive orders are tyranny when Trump uses them, but when Obama says, “I’ve got a pen and a phone,” it’s leadership. Let’s not pretend this is new. Every president uses executive authority when Congress drags its feet. Trump used it to secure the border, renegotiate trade, and stand up for American workers. That’s not monarchy, that’s representation of the forgotten class.
“One nation under God.” Critics mock Trump for saying, “I alone can fix it,” but again, context matters. He was pointing out what millions of Americans felt: the ruling class on both sides had failed, repeatedly. Who else was going to call out NATO freeloaders, China’s trade abuse, or the globalist agenda hollowing out our middle class? No one. He wasn’t declaring himself messiah, he was saying he was willing to take the hits others wouldn’t. And he did.
“Liberty and justice for all.” Let’s be honest: the two-tiered justice system didn’t start with Trump. It was exposed because of Trump. Hillary Clinton can bleach-bit servers and walk. Hunter Biden can rake in millions off shady foreign deals with little accountability. Meanwhile, Trump gets indicted over paperwork disputes and thought crimes. Pardon power? Every president uses it. Obama pardoned terrorists. Clinton pardoned his own donors. Trump pardoned people who were railroaded by a system stacked against them. That’s not corruption, it’s leveling the scales.
The bottom line is this: Trump’s critics love to weaponize lofty phrases like “justice,” “republic,” and “unity” while ignoring the hypocrisy in their own camp. Trump didn’t desecrate the pledge of allegiance; he lived it out by putting America first when nobody else would. If anything, he reminded us that the flag isn’t a prop for speeches. It’s a promise to the people, and one he was willing to fight for when others only talked.
And I will close with offering you some food for thought, simple, meaningful, and very clear about what Americans want. Trump won not once, but twice, even while being pelted with every bit of mud they could throw at him. So maybe, while you’re able to make your “Trump bad” list, you should pause and consider that bottom line. Because, despite everything, the people chose him.
A side note --- I always wonder when I see lists like yours about everything Trump supposedly did wrong. Why is it you never make a list of why your own party lost the election, or why it’s losing favor even among its own base? Why can’t you face those problems, talk about them openly, or even acknowledge them at all? Do you not notice how selective the conversation becomes, what you’ll bring up versus what you’ll completely avoid, as if you can’t bear to touch the failures within your own political party?S-I hear this argument a lot, and frankly, it misses the forest for the trees. Let’s start with the image: Trump hugging the American flag in a MAGA hat. You see contradiction, I see symbolism. For decades, we’ve had leaders who only paid lip service to patriotism while selling out the very people that flag represents. Trump’s embrace isn’t performative, it’s a statement: “I’m with the country, not the elite class that treats America like just another line on a balance sheet.”
M-Please name the leaders who have not been patriotic to their country. Trump is part of the elite class. He has 13 billionaires working for him. He gets mega donations from the elite class.
S-Now, on loyalty. Critics love to repeat that line, “You’re not loyal to me, you’re not loyal to the country.” But let’s put that in context. Trump wasn’t saying America = Trump. He was calling out Republicans who campaign on conservative values, cash in on voters’ trust, then stab their base in the back the second D.C. insiders snap their fingers. Was he blunt about it? Absolutely. But sometimes blunt truth is exactly what’s needed. Loyalty to the voters is loyalty to the country, and that’s what Trump was demanding.
M-You and I both know that Trump requires not only loyalty from his administration, but also, he likes them to lie to him to make him feel good. The head of the labor board was fired because she didn’t give him the numbers he wanted to hear.
S-Charlottesville gets dragged up every time. Let’s be clear: the media deliberately twisted his words. He condemned neo-Nazis and white supremacists in the same breath. The “very fine people” comment was about those debating monuments, not extremists. But the left weaponized that line because it fit their narrative. Division? The division was already there. Trump didn’t create it, he exposed it.
M-According to Politi Fact, he didn’t clarify his statemen until the next day, When a reporter asked him about the girl who was runover. It wasn’t in the same bresth.
S-Now, about the republic and executive power. Funny how executive orders are tyranny when Trump uses them, but when Obama says, “I’ve got a pen and a phone,” it’s leadership. Let’s not pretend this is new. Every president uses executive authority when Congress drags its feet. Trump used it to secure the border, renegotiate trade, and stand up for American workers. That’s not monarchy, that’s representation of the forgotten class.
M-I never said they were tyranny. Trump uses emergency executive orders for many of his policies so he doesn’t have to go through congress. Therefore, circumventing a branch of government.
S-“One nation under God.” Critics mock Trump for saying, “I alone can fix it,” but again, context matters. He was pointing out what millions of Americans felt: the ruling class on both sides had failed, repeatedly. Who else was going to call out NATO freeloaders, China’s trade abuse, or the globalist agenda hollowing out our middle class? No one. He wasn’t declaring himself messiah, he was saying he was willing to take the hits others wouldn’t. And he did.
M- I don’t believe that for minute. It is his ego talking. This is what was actually said and when he said it. Donald Trump famously said “I alone can fix it” during his Republican National Convention acceptance speech on July 21, 2016, in Cleveland.
The full quote was: “Nobody knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it.”
S-“Liberty and justice for all.” Let’s be honest: the two-tiered justice system didn’t start with Trump. It was exposed because of Trump. Hillary Clinton can bleach-bit servers and walk. Hunter Biden can rake in millions off shady foreign deals with little accountability. Meanwhile, Trump gets indicted over paperwork disputes and thought crimes. Pardon power? Every president uses it. Obama pardoned terrorists. Clinton pardoned his own donors. Trump pardoned people who were railroaded by a system stacked against them. That’s not corruption, it’s leveling the scales.
M-Trump pardoned those who attacked the capitol on Jan. 6 because he wanted to rig the election with his own slate created by his fellow governors. He has successfully evaded any criminal charges levied against him by delaying, deflecting and distracting those charges.
S-The bottom line is this: Trump’s critics love to weaponize lofty phrases like “justice,” “republic,” and “unity” while ignoring the hypocrisy in their own camp. Trump didn’t desecrate the pledge of allegiance; he lived it out by putting America first when nobody else would. If anything, he reminded us that the flag isn’t a prop for speeches. It’s a promise to the people, and one he was willing to fight for when others only talked.
M-I didn’t say he desecrated the pledge of allegiance. I said I don’t think he gave those words any thought and what they stand for. He didn’t put America First. He put MAGA first. By the way what do think a real American is?
S-And I will close with offering you some food for thought, simple, meaningful, and very clear about what Americans want. Trump won not once, but twice, even while being pelted with every bit of mud they could throw at him. So maybe, while you’re able to make your “Trump bad” list, you should pause and consider that bottom line. Because, despite everything, the people chose him.
M-People chose him because they didn’t know what they were getting. In my book, he suffers from extreme narcissism and is a master con-artist.
S-A side note --- I always wonder when I see lists like yours about everything Trump supposedly did wrong. Why is it you never make a list of why your own party lost the election, or why it’s losing favor even among its own base? Why can’t you face those problems, talk about them openly, or even acknowledge them at all? Do you not notice how selective the conversation becomes, what you’ll bring up versus what you’ll completely avoid, as if you can’t bear to touch the failures within your own political party?
M-We lost the election because Biden was in a stupor during the debate with Trump. And Harris did not have much time to campaign. I can face the problems. We don’t have MAGA and the community that it creates with merchandise, rallies, entertainment while denigrating the other side.
We believe in a democratic republic, not an authoritarian dictator who wants to run a third term. Trump is a rare kind of person who wants to win no matter if he has to lie and cheat. That coupled with his extreme narcissism and being a master con-artist makes him a winner. We will have to see how it all plays out. Thanks for dropping by.Let’s unpack your points one by one. First, regarding patriotism and Trump being part of the “elite class”: naming the elite doesn’t automatically make someone unpatriotic. Trump may have wealthy associates or receive donations, but his policies and actions consistently aimed to prioritize American workers, renegotiate unfair trade deals, and secure borders, things that directly benefit the country, not just the elite. Wealth in his circle does not erase loyalty to America.
On the claim about loyalty and lying to him: leaders who cater only to political correctness or fear of reprisal often fail the voters. Trump demanded honesty that would serve the country, even if blunt, because loyalty to the people matters more than loyalty to a narrow political hierarchy. Criticizing him for expecting loyalty or candor misses the larger principle of accountability.
Regarding Charlottesville and PolitiFact’s note about clarifications: the context of all of Trump's statements. Trump condemned neo-Nazis and white supremacists clearly, and any delay in a reporter’s follow-up does not negate the substance of what he said. It’s misleading to imply he supported extremists just because clarification came the next day.
On executive power, it’s disingenuous to frame Trump’s use of emergency orders as bypassing Congress in a negative sense. Every president uses executive authority to address gridlock; Trump acted to protect Americans, renegotiate trade, and prioritize national interests. That is representation, not monarchy.
About “I alone can fix it”: this wasn’t a narcissistic claim; it was a statement of accountability. Millions of Americans felt the system had failed them, and Trump was declaring his willingness to take on what others wouldn’t. Context is critical, and quotes pulled without it distort intent.
Regarding justice and pardons: Trump’s use of pardon power addressed an already-biased system, not personal gain. Comparing him to Clinton or Obama shows precedent—he wasn’t corrupt, he sought to correct inequity in a system stacked against ordinary Americans.
On America First versus MAGA: putting the country first doesn’t exclude advocacy for specific policies like MAGA; in fact, MAGA policies were designed to strengthen American jobs, borders, and trade. The claim that he didn’t prioritize the nation overlooks the tangible results of his administration.
Blaming Biden's debate performance and Harris's limited campaign time oversimplifies the 2024 election outcome. The Democratic Party was aware of Biden's cognitive challenges yet proceeded with his candidacy. Harris had no clear agenda, which meant her campaign failed to energize voters or present a compelling vision. Meanwhile, the MAGA movement isn’t just about merchandise, rallies, or entertainment; it’s a community of Americans actively engaged in politics, advocating for policies they believe will strengthen the country. Suggesting it exists only to “denigrate the other side” ignores its focus on ideas, accountability, and civic participation.
Finally, on narcissism and being a “master con-artist”: success in politics does not automatically equal deception. Millions of Americans voted for him twice because they saw real action and results, not because they were deceived. And pointing fingers at Trump’s personality without examining systemic failures in the opposing party ignores the bigger picture of why voters made their choice.
In short, every point can be countered by context, evidence, and principle: Trump’s actions consistently focused on accountability, patriotism, and prioritizing the American people, even if critics reduce those efforts to personal attacks or selective interpretations.
I’ve always recognized that Trump has personality traits I didn’t initially appreciate, traits I would describe as narcissistic. But over time, I’ve come to see many more positive characteristics in him, even if they’re a bit rough around the edges. I’m genuinely impressed with his performance in office and the diligence he shows in addressing problems he inherited, as well as long-standing issues that have persisted for decades, issues I, myself, have wanted fixed for just as long. I fully support his agenda, which is something many don’t seem to understand, it’s the very agenda that got him elected. And why would anyone who supports him feel upset when they see him keeping the promises he made? The real divide in our society lies here: two sides with ideologies that will never, and can never, fully align.i could argue everyone of your points, but that would be an exercise in futility for both of us. What you have posted is your impression and opinions of Trump. it's very obvious that you are attracted to his authoritarian style of politics. His actions and behavior fill a need in what you think and this country needs..
Sure you can generalize and say that all presidents lie and cheat, but not to the extent and degree that Trump does.. Thisi is just about lying.
During Donald Trump's first term in office (2017–2021), fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims, averaging about 21 per day. These ranged from exaggerations about economic performance to repeated falsehoods about election fraud.
Here are a few of the most frequently repeated claims:
“Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it”
• Status: The wall was partially built or reinforced, but Mexico did not pay for it. U.S. taxpayers funded the construction.
“Repeal and replace Obamacare”
• Status: Despite repeated efforts, the Affordable Care Act remains intact. Attempts to repeal it failed in Congress.
“Achieve 4% economic growth”
• Status: The U.S. economy never consistently hit 4% annual growth. COVID-19 and inflation disrupted momentum.
• “We built the greatest economy in the history of the world.”
Trump said this at least 493 times, despite economists noting that while the economy was strong pre-COVID, it wasn’t historically unmatched.
• “We passed the biggest tax cut in history.”
Repeated 296 times, though analyses show it was not the largest when adjusted for inflation or as a percentage of GDP.
• “The election was stolen.”
This claim became central after the 2020 election, despite no evidence of widespread fraud. It was widely debunked and contributed to the January 6 Capitol riot.
• COVID-related misinformation, including statements like “It will go away” or “We have it totally under control,” which were contradicted by public health data and expert assessments.
- End the war in Ukraine within 24 hours” Despite summits and sanctions, the war continues.
Cut electricity prices in half within 12 months” Consumer prices have risen, not fallen. Inflation and energy market volatility have made this promise elusive.
According to analysts, Trump’s approach, in this term, resembles a “firehose of falsehood”—a propaganda technique where overwhelming volume and repetition make it hard for the public to keep up or fact-check effectively. This tactic is reportedly used to dominate the media narrative and drown out criticism.
I told you in one of our conversations that you see Trump with the glass half full. I see him with the glass half empty.
The bottom line you stated in your last sentence is right. It is the difference in conservative values and beliefs and liberal values and beliefs.
I read a book called Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion by a moral psycohologist, Jonathan Haidt. He states there is a difference in moral priorities between conservatives and liberals. To me, Trump is immoral with all of his lying and how he has successfully evaded accountability of his criminal acctions . To me that is very high on my list of priorities for a leader.
On the other hand, conservative could care less about any of that, their prioritites are the group dynamics. They say democrats fall in love, whild republican fall in line. That's why Trump is able to get re-elected. MAGA is so successful with those who think they have been left out by those miserable liberals. Now Trump is already campaign for a third term...God help us..Your entire argument rests on the assumption that fact-checkers are the gold standard of truth, yet they are some of the most biased arbiters out there. The “30,573 lies” claim from The Washington Post is a perfect example of manufactured outrage. They padded that number by counting the same repeated statements hundreds of times. Trump saying the economy was the strongest ever may be political exaggeration, but when repeated, it’s tallied as dozens of separate lies. That isn’t objective truth-seeking, it’s partisan spin designed to drown him in bad headlines. Meanwhile, where is the same accounting for Biden, Harris, or Obama, who also repeated falsehoods, broke promises, and distorted statistics? The selective outrage exposes the bias.
You bring up the wall and Mexico paying for it. Trump built significant portions of the wall and secured funding through budget negotiations and trade leverage. Did Mexico hand us a check? No. But to dismiss his effort as a “lie” is disingenuous. Political promises have always been translated into action differently than campaign slogans. Obama never closed Guantánamo, Biden never “shut down” the virus, yet those broken promises don’t fuel endless moral lectures. Why? Because the media protects its own.
Your moral condemnation of Trump as “immoral” for exaggerations misses the bigger picture. Conservatives judge morality through results, not polished rhetoric. Trump rebuilt the military, strengthened trade deals, secured the border, achieved energy independence, and boosted American jobs. Those are tangible results. Meanwhile, Democrats cloak their failures in lofty words, Biden lies through omission while the country suffers under inflation, chaos at the border, and foreign weakness. Which is worse: blunt exaggeration paired with results, or smooth-talking dishonesty while presiding over national decline?
The “firehose of falsehood” accusation is laughable. Trump’s repetition is branding, not propaganda. Every successful politician does this, “Hope and Change,” “Yes We Can,” “Build Back Better.” Do you call those propaganda? Or only when Trump does it? The double standard is glaring. And to be clear, Trump already won his second term and is serving as president right now. The talk of a “third term” is nothing more than fearmongering. He is operating fully within the Constitution, just like every president before him.
I have shared this over and over: I support his agenda, every bit of it. I appreciate strength in any man; it’s one of my own characteristics. I like strong males. I grew up with strong men who thrived because of their innate strength. So yes, you are correct in that assumption. I cannot stand a weak man. Period.
The bottom line is this: your view reduces Trump to a caricature because you cannot accept that millions of Americans value strength, sovereignty, and results over polished speeches and media approval. You see the glass half empty because you want to. I see it half full because I refuse to ignore results. That’s not authoritarianism, it’s pragmatism.
Shar,
I think a man who has endured as much as he has has proven his love of country.
President Donald Trump is a Billionaire. He didn't have to go into politics. He could've sat back, ran his company and had an easy life.
He saw the harm democrats were doing to our country and decided to step up and take action.
President Donald Trump has been vilified by the left because he did not play their game. He was determined to put America first.
Two bogus impeachments, frivolous lawsuits, ridiculous criminal charges all to keep him from running for a second term. He didn't quit. He kept going. President Donald Trump loves his country and believes in his movement so much he never gave up.
When you add two assassination attempts, constantly being called "Hitler," "Nazi," "Bigot," etc. and yet he kept going.
He could have quit. President Donald Trump kept going and endured more than anyone could handle to return to the presidency.
His love of country and the American people is something to be admired.
The left and how they oppose him are symbols of America's shame. History will remember them as a black mark on American society.Mike, I couldn’t agree more with everything you said. President Trump has taken blow after blow and still refuses to back down because his fight has never been about himself, it’s about us, the American people. He could have lived out his life in comfort and luxury, but instead he chose to walk into the fire because he couldn’t stand by and watch our country be destroyed. That says more about his character and his love of America than any media narrative ever could.
Just think of the courage this man has every single time he steps out in public, even something as simple as walking across the White House lawn to a helicopter, or now traveling overseas to places like the UK. The risks are constant, yet he continues on. His sacrifices go beyond politics: his businesses, his reputation in elite circles, and even the peace of his family life have all been put on the line. Most men would’ve walked away long ago, but not Trump. He endures it all because he is committed to making this nation a better place.
It’s so very obvious that he loves America, and in my view, he’s doing everything he possibly can to preserve it for future generations. And all this while being vilified by what I believe is a very vile segment of our society. I no longer have any interest in softening my views on that fact. His perseverance and courage are unmatched, and history will remember his fight as one of the greatest acts of service to the American people. And they will also remember the truly sick individuals who promoted hate and twisted the idea of good and evil, trying to make bad seem good.He only loves half of The Unted States of America. I emphazise the word United. He is not a uniter he is a divider. He divides our country into MAGA and the radical left.
He even said that Charlie Kirk was killed by a person from the Radical Left. Then it was found out that he was a Morman. So now Trump is saying that the Radical Left is serving as a barrier to the healing that is needed in this country.
Let's face it, he only loves half of the country because he loves having an enemy that he can blame for everything that he screws up. You feel sorry for him. I fear him becaue of what a mess he is making out of this country. He is living in the past with his tariffs to bring back manufacturing and at the same time raising prices on consumer goods and services. ."Then it was found out that he was a Morman."
What HAS that got to do with anything?
He was a gay male who was dating a male who was transitioning into female.
"We can confirm that his roommate was indeed a boyfriend who is transitioning from male to female. That's information that the FBI had mentioned yesterday. We can confirm that as well, and that he is cooperating with authorities as well," he said."
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said "Robinson was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology." Asked if investigators have uncovered evidence to show that, Cox replied, "Well, so far that -- that has come from his acquaintance and his family members."
I believe President Donald Trump loves our country because he is willing o face and fight the fanatical left. His policies and administration are now and will continue to make America great again.
No other president who held the office has endured what he has endured. It is all because he loves the United States and is willing to fight for it.There is no public confirmation that Trey Robinson identifies as gay. However, recent reporting and statements from Utah Governor Spencer Cox indicate that Robinson—who was involved in the Charlie Kirk shooting—was living with a transgender partner at the time.
This has led to speculation about his sexual orientation, but as of now, Robinson has not made any official statement about how he identifies.
The distinction matters: living with or dating a transgender person doesn’t automatically define someone’s orientation, and without Robinson’s own words, it remains speculative.
My hot spot morality is about Trrump's lies.. It appears your morality is based on homopobia. I have a gay son who is a Captain of a 747 and he flies all over the world. I couldn't be prouder.
There is no fanatical left that Trumpp is enduring. He is his own worse enemy with all his lying and criminality. He alone gets himself into trouble.
You feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for you. How has Trump's peace plan in Ukraine working for you. I respect what you must feel. See liberals have empathy. Trump is not wired for empathy.."There is no public confirmation that Trey Robinson identifies as gay. However, recent reporting and statements from Utah Governor Spencer Cox indicate that Robinson—who was involved in the Charlie Kirk shooting—was living with a transgender partner at the time."
That pretty much confirms it for me. There are other things, such as the roommate talking about their romantic relationship...I'm not even taking the time to post it. I don't care.
Unfortunately, your Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) precludes you from discussing a topic without saying something about President Donald Trump.
I find that truly sad.Trump is our leader. He sets the tone and is supposed to lead by example. That's why he is in all discussions. From my view, he sets very poor examples of what a leader should be..
There is no such thing as TDS except in the minds of those who want to use it to demean those they don't like.. I feel sorry for you as well about Trump enduring all those hardships that are placed on him by the very left.
Except for his attempted assissnation, you are being conned by him The behavior of a master con-artist is to play the victim to those who support him and at the same time attack those who see through his con."Trump is our leader. He sets the tone and is supposed to lead by example. That's why he is in all discussions. From my view, he sets very poor examples of what a leader should be.." PP
PP, You say Trump sets a poor example, but I see it very differently. His outspokenness is leadership, plain and simple. He refused to be run over by rhetoric, half-truths, and in many cases outright lies. Instead of lying down and letting the media or political elites define him, he fought back, directly, in real time, and in the same public square where those attacks were made. He shows strength in defending himself and his agenda.
That’s not weakness, that’s strength. For decades, we’ve watched politicians smile politely while dishonest narratives went unchallenged. Trump set a new example: we will not ignore, we will not lie down, and we will not allow others to spread falsehoods unopposed. Millions of Americans rallied to that because they finally saw someone defending them, not just defending his own image.
So yes, he sets a tone, but it’s a tone of defiance against corruption, dishonesty, and a system stacked against ordinary people. That, to me, is the kind of leadership this country has been starved for. And yes, he threw labels, but only after they were thrown at him. In doing so, he showed us a Republican leader unlike any we had ever seen before, one who refused to turn the haughty cheek but instead hit back harder than he was hit. Perhaps because he once moved in Democratic circles, he understood their tactics well, and slinging it back came more naturally to him than it ever would to someone like Mitt Romney.
In my view, my party has finally struck the right note. We are no longer afraid to openly spar for our beliefs and values. We’ve become a force that will be stronger than ever — conservatism on steroidsI hate to go here, but I have to do it.
This is what you said about my comment about Trump using a fire hose tactic for his poliecies.
"The “firehose of falsehood” accusation is laughable. Trump’s repetition is branding, not propaganda. Every successful politician does this, “Hope and Change,” “Yes We Can,” “Build Back Better.” Do you call those propaganda? Or only when Trump does it?"
You see, that is your opinion and it is wrong. Here is where that comes from and who told Trump to do it...and he does it.
Here’s the full flavor of what Steve Bannon told Trump to do it and he sitill does it. He told Trump to use Muzzle Velocity and Flood the Zone.
What Did He Mean by “Muzzle Velocity”?
In firearms, muzzle velocity refers to the speed at which a bullet leaves the barrel. Bannon used it metaphorically to describe the rapid-fire pace of executive actions, media provocations, and political disruption. The idea was is:
• Hit fast and hard, before critics could react.
• Overwhelm the media with multiple stories, knowing they’d only latch onto one.
• Exploit attention cycles, so controversies would fade before accountability could catch up.
This strategy was central to Trump’s early presidency and has resurfaced in his current term, especially in the first 16 days of 2025, which saw a barrage of firings, lawsuits, and executive orders.
This strategy was embraced not just rhetorically but operationally. In Trump’s second term, aides like Stephen Miller reportedly used it to push a barrage of executive orders and policy changes across multiple domains—from immigration to tech regulation—making it hard for opposition to mount a coordinated response
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Classified Documents
Donald Trump was federally indicted for mishandling classified documents after leaving office in 2021. The case centers around his retention of highly sensitive national security materials at his Mar-a-Lago estate and his alleged efforts to obstruct their return.
What Happened
• January 2021: Boxes of documents—including classified materials—were moved from the White House to Mar-a-Lago. Trump was reportedly personally involved in the packing.
• May–December 2021: The National Archives repeatedly requested the return of missing presidential records.
• January 2022: Trump returned 15 boxes, which included 184 classified documents, some marked Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS/SCI).
• August 2022: The FBI executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago and seized:
• 11 sets of classified records
• 18 Top Secret documents
• 54 Secret documents
• 31 Confidential documents
The Charges
Trump was indicted on 40 felony counts, including:
• Willful retention of national defense information
• Obstruction of justice
• False statements
• Conspiracy to conceal documents
He pleaded not guilty to all charges. The case marked the first federal indictment of a U.S. president.
Sexual Abuse
Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation in civil court—but not for rape, as defined under New York law. The case involves E. Jean Carroll, a writer who accused Trump of assaulting her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s.
Here’s what happened:
Civil Verdicts & Payments
• May 2023: A jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation, awarding Carroll $5 million.
• January 2024: A second jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million for additional defamation damages, after Trump continued to publicly attack her character.
• September 2025: A federal appeals court upheld the full judgment, calling Trump’s conduct “remarkably high, perhaps unprecedented” in its degree of harm.
Legal vs. Common Language
While Carroll alleged rape, the jury concluded Trump committed sexual abuse, not rape under the narrow legal definition in New York. However, a federal judge later ruled that it was accurate to say Trump was found liable for rape in “common modern parlance,” which led to a separate defamation lawsuit against ABC News and George Stephanopoulos.
Trump’s Response
Trump has denied all allegations, calling Carroll’s claims fabricated and politically motivated. He also sued media outlets for mischaracterizing the verdict, resulting in a $15 million settlement from ABC News.
Jan. 6
Donald Trump’s falsehoods about January 6, 2021, have been central to how he’s shaped public perception of the Capitol riot—and shielded himself from accountability. These lies span before, during, and after the attack, and they’ve been thoroughly documented by fact-checkers, congressional investigators, and journalists.
Before the Riot: Laying the Groundwork
Trump repeatedly claimed the 2020 election was stolen, despite:
• No evidence of widespread fraud
• Dozens of court losses, including rulings by Trump-appointed judges
• State audits and recounts confirming Biden’s win
He told supporters:
He also falsely claimed:
• Dead people voted
• Illegal ballots were counted
• Mike Pence could overturn the results (Pence publicly rejected this on Jan. 6 itself)
During the Riot: Deflection and Delay
While the Capitol was under siege:
• Trump waited hours to call off the mob.
• He tweeted criticism of Pence, even as rioters chanted “Hang Mike Pence.”
• He told rioters “We love you. You’re very special,” in a video message.
These actions were cited in his second impeachment, which charged him with inciting an insurrection.
After the Riot: Revisionism and Pardons
Trump has since:
• Claimed the rioters were “peaceful patriots” and “hostages.”
• Pardoned convicted rioters, including those who assaulted police.
• Promoted conspiracy theories that liberals or federal agents staged the attack—claims repeatedly debunked.
He’s also pressured institutions to whitewash the event, including reportedly forcing the Smithsonian to remove his name from a Jan. 6 exhibit.
Trump’s lies about January 6 weren’t just rhetorical—they were strategic, aimed at:
• Undermining democratic norms
• Cementing loyalty among his base
• Avoiding legal and political consequences
And finally The Trump Playbook: “Deny, Deflect, Delay”
According to legal analysts and historians, Trump has used this approach for decades:
• Deny everything publicly, often aggressively.
• Deflect blame onto political opponents, prosecutors, or the media.
• Delay proceedings through endless motions, appeals, and jurisdictional challenges.
This strategy was honed under the mentorship of Roy Cohn, the infamous McCarthy-era lawyer who taught Trump to never admit fault and always counterattack.
Delay Tactics That Paid Off
• Presidential immunity: Trump’s legal team argued that many alleged actions were “official acts,” protected by presidential immunity. The Supreme Court’s July 2025 ruling gave him broad protection, stalling federal cases.
• Election timing: By winning re-election, Trump gained leverage to pause or dismiss prosecutions. DOJ guidelines discourage indicting a sitting president, and special counsel Jack Smith has reportedly considered winding down his cases.
• Appeals and procedural hurdles: In Georgia, for example, Trump’s team challenged the prosecutor’s conduct, delaying trial proceedings indefinitely.
Outcome So Far
• Convicted in New York: Trump was found guilty of falsifying business records in the hush money case.
• Federal cases stalled: Classified documents and election interference trials are in limbo, pending immunity rulings and political
decisions.
• Georgia case frozen: No trial date set; appeals and procedural challenges remain unresolved.
In essence, Trump didn’t dodge the charges—he outlasted them, using a blend of legal maneuvering, political timing, and institutional ambiguity.President Donald Trump does live rent free in your mind.
That is not in my mind. They are facts that you and Trumpers can't handle. TDS can stand for Trump Denial Syndrome. It's a reality that your minds are not capable of comprehending.
Dude... Bogus. Heinous. Most non-triumphant.
Just because people don't dwell on the Trumpster all day long... does not mean they have a denial syndrome... it just means they have other interests in life other than dwelling on Trump... like you do, bruh.
I want to be upfront and let you know that I’m going to step back from our conversations. I’ve always tried to respond thoughtfully to your many lists and points about Trump, but over time, the repetition has started to feel more like brow-beating than discussion. It seems that if you don't see agreement, the same lists keep coming.
I’ve also had an epiphany: I don’t feel I’m helping the left's issues by continuing to debate them this way. Instead, I’ve realized I’ve become part of the problem by feeding into endless back-and-forth. I respect that we have very different mindsets, and I think it’s best for both of us if I no longer engage. I wish you the best going forward.
He only loves half of The Unted States of America.
Wrong. He only loves himself.
I woke up this mornin' with the sun shinin' on in
I found my mind a mixed-up mess wonderin' where Trump has been
I tripped on a cloud and fell eight miles high
I tore my mind on a jagged internet ride
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
(Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah, what condition my condition was in)
I pushed my soul in a deep dark hole and then I followed it in
I watched myself crawlin' out as I was a-crawlin' in
Trump got me up so tight I couldn't unwind
I saw so much I broke my mind
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
(Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah, what condition my condition was in)
Someon painted "MAGA Trump" in big black letters on a "Dead End" sign
I had my foot on the gas as I left the road and blew out my mind
Eight miles outta Memphis and I got no spare
Eight miles straight up downtown somewhere
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
I said I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah, Trump is living in there...
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