Interesting Responses to Obama's Latest Health Care Pitch

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   MikeNVposted 14 years ago

   I was surprised at how against the Health Care proposal people really are...
   
   Maybe people really do recognize this as bad legislation.
   
   http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100 … hy/3446073
   
   Comments below the article.
   
   People were against the Bank Bailout too... but they crammed that through.
   
   I wonder when the voice of the people will actually be heard?

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      IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree.  I think we have yet another administration, doing what it damn well pleases. I've been looking into houses in Canada.  This is getting out of hand.

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         Kenrick Chatmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Both health-care bills passed the House and the Senate without reconciliation unlike both Bush W tax cuts. So how is this ramming legislation through? If you have enough votes, the legislation passes without reconciliation.
         
         This is one of the reasons why Obama was put into office. To help pass health-care reform.
         
         We do not have to use reconciliation since after the House approves the Senate health-care bill, President Obama can just sign it into law.
         
         However, President Obama will like for the few good GOP provisions to be included and to remove the bad Nebraska Medicaid provision. Likewise, they will accomplish this via reconciliation.

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      Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      In November

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      JON EWALLposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      90MikeNV
      IF YOU READ WHAT'S IN THE BILL, you will join the group against the bill.
      How about $250 billion in new taxes
      Medicare cuts $500 billion (premise paid by eliminating fraud )
      Mandate  , everyone will be forced to buy healthcare insurance
      if you don't you will be fined or taxed
      the lists goes on and on
      Obama isn't listening , he is still campaigning for his plan.

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   Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

   Maybe the Voice of the People will be heard when that Voice starts talking loudly about the Vested Interests that exist between those who drive the bills and those who pay backhanders to the drivers

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   MikeNVposted 14 years ago

   Jon I know what's in the Bill... believe me I am on your side on this 100%.  This bill is a disaster.  I worked for a major Health Insurance Company.  Until you see it from the inside out you can't really understand just why this Bill is so horrific.
   
   Insurance is MATH... it's taking a pool of subscribers and assigning statistics to that pool to determine a 'cost' for the premiums that covers the Administration, Doctors, and Risk.
   
   When you lump pre existing conditions into the risk pool, you are no longer "insuring"... these people are going to use services.  There is no risk, it's a certainty.  This raises costs for the program.
   
   So the real issue that should be addressed is how do we as a society take care of those who are ailing and uninsurable.  Because they don't need insurance... they need negotiated cost plans.
   
   Put 10 people with Cancer in a risk pool and someone has got to pay for them.  It's a sad fact but once you are ill it's too late.
   
   The Government is doing nothing to help increase Health.  They continue to subsidize crops like Corn, Beef, Fast Food.  They do nothing to make healthy food choices available to the masses.
   
   Every solution to the Government is tax.
   
   There are definite abuses in the the Insurance Industry... but they are not the bad guys.  People once they have insurance USE IT TO DEATH.  Every little sniffle and they are at the Doctors office.  And all those claims have to be paid.
   
   Like every Corporation in America there is way too much money funneling to the top.  But what comes next do we single out specific industries because they should be part of the "social good" and let the other industries pay whatever they want and charge whatever they want?
   
   Is this not the free market at work?
   
   My surprise what how aware people of both parties are becoming in recognizing this horrible bill.  There has been such a torrent of support for anything Obama proposed at first... now his own party and democrats are beginning to question what the H%^& is going on with this one!
   
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   Officials at Oakland, Calif.-based Kaiser Permanente reported that the healthcare system’s net income for 2009 was $2.1 billion, representing a jump compared to 2008’s net loss of $794 million.
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   No one was complaining in 2008 when Kaiser LOST $794 million.

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   Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

   Nancy Pelosi asks if you want to know whats in the bill.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

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