I was just reading an article on yahoo the other day where in a matter of national security, the united states was going to have the fbi create a series of dummy accounts on sites like facebook to monitor for terrorist activities. thus, making it possible that a friend of yours on facebook, who you never met in real life, might be an fbi agent spying on your activities to make sure your not a terrorist. of course, this doesn't bother me as i have nothing to hide from them. however, i would like to ask you all honestly. do you think this is constitutional? or are we going too far in the pursuit of monitoring our country, that we've managed to take away more of our rights as citizens? please discuss.
Local news covered this and has a story on their website. Although, I agree they should catch those pervs after kids...where does it end? They can also spy on everyone else.
Hey they can do whatever they want! Remember the Patriot Act? Obama just renewed it. The way it works is they monitor EVERYBODY, through the NSA with a direct tap of all communications traffic though the main providers AT&T etc and they have software that looks for certain key phrases. If they find one they look closer.
If you add people you don't know in real life, that's your problem.
I also agree that you shouldn't post things on the net that you want to remain anonymous. There is always a way to track things back to you, and it isn't dependent on being on your friends list.
oh yeah...i am sure i am going to use Facebook and Twitter to faclilitate some terrorist activities
well it doesn't affect me, as i only befriend coworkers, close friends (real life friends) and family members.
This is just "big brother" getting hip. It is good to catch the bad apples in society. You might argue that if you are not doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to worry about. They are not looking into your personal dirt unless you seem suspicious. The bad part of it is it is "profiling", which most police organizations are not supposed to do. The Patriot act threw all those rights out the window.
I agree with tantrum but if you are on a social networking site than it is all public.
Anything one posts online is subject to public perusal. I do not understand why so many people can't get this simple idea through their heads.
I don't know why everyone is so surprised that law enforcement is just keeping up with the trends of the modern day. If you don't want anyone to see stuff about you, DON'T post it to the internet.
Besides which, at least in the U.S., if you still think privacy exists you are sadly mistaken.
although i can't say i agree with this policy, i will say this. We've brought this upon ourselves when you stop to look at it. For years, the internet has been a free flow of information where everyone and anyone could look up and put up whatever they wanted without anything to monitor it. Personally, I always felt there should've been a way implemented to protect others information online and to monitor false information over the web. If this spy tactic does help in some way towards policing the internet, then i might be for it.
then again, i would hate to think that any of my friends i made here are nothing more than agents spying on me, and had no interest in being friends with me to begin with.
Oh, and to answer your question: Like any other law or law enforcement practice: If it's used properly to capture actual criminals with due process, then I'm all for it.
If it's misused, then the people abusing their power need to be dealt with.
It's not the laws or procedures that are the problem, as much as the individuals who use or abuse them.
yeah, i can definitely agree with you there.
I received an e-mail from the FBI director the other day. He said he had my 10-million dollars. When I questioned them about it, they said it was a scam. Looks like they could catch those scammers...go figure.
hey it would be great if i ran into an fbi agent on here. men in uniforms are a big turn on especially those with better pay.
yep but the only downfall is i hate relationships that start off with lies. for instance if he uses a phony name and things like that. that right there would be the deal breaker for me. just hope he posts the pic. of him in the uniform. that could make for some great nights....lmao
you can't be serious that no other woman here feels the same way i do. i guess that makes me a minority. maybe i can get into college for free now.lmao:)
The only thing new here that I cn see is that the news have got a hold of the story. This is not new.
Intelligance services the world over infiltrate ordinary people's lives all the time; the fact that you don't know they are doing it doesn't make it any less so.
How do you think British Intelligence knew about the dozen or more reported terrorist threats that they were able to put a stop to before they happened?
When I was a taxi driver driver, the services also owned a black cab, the driver of which was an Intelligence Agent who used the taxi to spy on what was happening in the streets.
The only slip in that case was that the other taxi drivers knew the plate number of this cab, and so we knew who it was, but its not something we divulged outside the trade. I don't think I ever saw that cab in 20 years anyway, or maybe I did and didn't know it.
I raised a similar question a while back about employment recruiters and college administrators doing the same thing and basically I was told by more than one here that there is no reason to expect privacy when posting on the Internet and while I agree with that to a point I still think that it is wrong to profile people based on the small portion of who they are that you might find on the Internet.
Long as one isn't doing anything wrong, I don't see a problem. I would think it's great that monitoring for 'suspicious' persons of interest is going on
If your doing nothing wrong, there is nothing to worry about. Anything on the net is open game to anyone, that's why we don't say or do anything we don't want the entire world to know about.
I can imagine how it may not necessarily be just a matter of going and looking at what people have posted; but pretending to be a friend in order to "further discuss" what may give off "bad vibes". So, in a way, I can see how someone may think it's a lousy thing to pretend to be friend, only to "spy".
I think, though, in view of the fact that anyone can pretend to be someone he isn't, one might say the government has as much right as any other phony to be lie about who is who. That goes to the thing that everyone online needs to use good judgment about how friendly they get with anyone they don't know in person. If everyone (the questionable people included) start watching out what they say to "friends" it may mean a lot of stuff isn't said online to anybody; but that could, without anyone really trying, stop a lot of "questionable"/illegal communication from happening online (but that's not necessarily a bad thing either).
Then again, though, there's something "icky" about it any time government people are paying attention to what private citizens are doing.
I don't have any friends on Facebook that I haven't met in person. I guess I would have thought the FBI could infiltrate my online accounts without having to pretend they are my friend, so I'm not that bothered.
I've had my Constitutional Rights stepped on in ways that have far more impact on my life than this, so I guess (cynical as this seems/is), I feel like I learned that Constitutional Rights are something we have "on paper" only.
As far as the online, "spying-on-people" thing goes, I don't care. I don't get too friendly with anyone I don't really know anyway; so I pretty much take all identities with a grain of salt. I hope the government DOES read what I've written and said online. Maybe someone will get a dose of reality about what life is like for citizens who mind their business and have their rights disregarded. It's at least better if they're honest about what they do online than not.
Besides, I have a feeling if anyone read what I write it will be about 2 seconds before they turn their attention to someone else.
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