Health Care- Lower Cost!!!---Not! Saw link today about Rise in Cost!

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   Michael Willisposted 13 years ago

   Way to go---Health Care reform. Everyone tried to promise that cost of Health Care would go down with the Bill that passed Congress.
   Well, I know in Arkansas it will go up. Wonder how long before other States follow?
   http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/sto … mp;catid=2

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      ElenaLebedevaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi, you know i agree wit;h everything you saying. They don't know what they  are doing. All I want to see is those people with big buck, loose everything they owe and try to survivve in medium or low class. they won't be able do it.  all i know they should make them pay big on insurance and fee's.

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         tony0724posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         ?

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      Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Of course health care costs will go up as they have been doing for the past fifty years or so. The hope is that some of the measures in the recently passed bill will help slow the rate of increase in costs. Some of these measures will be slow to show any effect. And perhaps more needs to be done to control costs. Maybe they will have to actually have "death panels" as critics claimed incorrectly were in the original House bill.

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         JON EWALLposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         ralph
         
         HOPE?  forget about hope, the government can't provide hope,the people need jobs now not hope.
         
         Wake up American, every day the people lose more hope because this government is inept and corrupt.

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            Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That's the problem with this bill...it is based on Hope to help Americans.
            I hope the Insurance companies will have compassion and reduce costs.
            I hope Hospitals will lower costs.
            I hope Doctors will lower their fees.
            I hope the government subsidies will "give me" insurance.
            I hope I can afford this.
            I hope I can trust the Government.
            I hope I will be approved for care.
            I hope........etc
            Hope is not Facts!

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      LiamBeanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't see anything in the bill that forced insurers to lower premiums or charge the insured less. The 15% profit cap only applies to "large group policies," whatever "large" means.

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   Ohmaposted 13 years ago

   Micheal I think this is the tip of the iceberg. All the companies will follow they really do not have a choice. There is no way to recoup what they are going to lose down the road so they have to plan ahead.
   Just my thoughts.

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      Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You are right. There is more to come. That's why I have been against the "passed Bill", but for Health Care reform.....which means "Reform the Industry and fraud, not reform the people to pay into the problems."

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   Ohmaposted 13 years ago

   The way the Bill is written these insurance companies are getting ready to be Butt F*cked and they know it. They have got to get what they can now and bail out all together whenthe time comes to keep an profit.

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      Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I thing we are in agreement. From Insurance companies perspective....they have no choice in their reasoning to raise rates to make a profit
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      Obama/Democrats to "sell" his plan to Americans...This Bill will make Insurance "affordable" to all Americans.
      
      My issue with all of this is---How do you make Insurance More Affordable by raising the cost of Insurance???

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         cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         more Obamaspeak. he also said when he campaigned he wanted to help the environment. so how does offshore drilling help the enviroment again?

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   Ohmaposted 13 years ago

   When The major players in the insurance industry close their doors and we are all forced onto government insurance the cost will be lower the care will be worse and OUR TAXES WILL BE HIGHER>

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      Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ditto!

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   Ohmaposted 13 years ago

   And my husband tells me I am a reactionary

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      Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      lol. "To every action there is a reaction."

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      ElenaLebedevaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      lol my man says the samething. I guess growing up in Soviet union and going through what we went through ro have we lived some people won't be able to understand. my man says I over react. I don't want to go what i went through in my country. Plus I don't see nothing wrong showing feelings nothing wrong that means you care.

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      Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      He's probably right, judging by your comments.

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   tony0724posted 13 years ago

   And if that is not bad enough Newsbusters just had an article where they are projecting $4.00 a gallon and $150.00 a barrel and some cap and trade tax onto that and YIKES !

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   Ohmaposted 13 years ago

   I cant decide if we should tar and feather the idiot or just ship him to Iraq

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   MikeNVposted 13 years ago

   There is absolutely nothing in the Bill to contain costs.
   
   As employee costs rise employers will look to layoff and move more operations offshore.
   
   The Banks... Bank of America for example is looking to spend an additional $1 Billion outsourcing to India.  They were planning to do that long before the Health Care bill.  Now it will just escalate.
   
   Companies will choose to pay fines if they are cheaper.  So this will just be a tax on business, that will not benefit the employee in any way.
   
   You can't "fix" a broken system by just throwing money at it.  And that's all this bill does... it forces the average person to throw more money at the problem.
   
   The United States already has the most expensive "health care" in the World.
   
   Obama chose to demonize the Insurance Industry.  They operate on pretty thin margins as it is now.  Nothing in the bill controls the costs of Hospitals, Pharmaceuticals, or Medical Equipment.
   
   Hospitals charge 1,000's per day for their crappy rooms. $6 for a Tylenol etc.
   
   On the flip side hospitals are FORCED to treat anyone who walks through the emergency room door... legal or not and whether they can pay or not.  So those costs get passed along.  Anything in the Bill to address this cost?  No.
   
   The real PAIN to the individual in this Bill intentionally kicks in AFTER this falls elections.
   
   More bad news coming.

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      Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Businesses calculating the cost difference of paying the fines versus buying the insurance was in the article I linked.  Businesses can afford the fines better than an individual. Businesses have other tax deductions they can use.
      The Individual is the one who ends up the buyer of insurance even when he has a job. Business refuse to buy insurance and the government fines Both the business and the individual!!! Guess Obama has come up with a way to raise funds. Double Fines!

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      Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just as the mandate for individuals to buy comes into law AFTER the Obama re-election attempt.  You think that was also calculated? You betcha!

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      Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Mike you have a bad habit of making, to put it politely, highly innacurate comments. It's not true that there is nothing in the bill to contain costs. It would improve our discussions if we all would confine ourselves to the facts.

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   Ohmaposted 13 years ago

   Sorry Mr. Deeds we disagree on politics. So do my husband and I but I still respect him and his opinions.

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    Michael Willisposted 13 years ago

    True or False: Health Care is made more Affordable by raising the cost of Health Care Insurance?
    
    People want facts. Obama claims HE is making Health Care More affordable. True or False? No what ifs or Could be if....Will the cost raise or not.
    Affordable = Raise Cost. Excuses don't mean much.

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       Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       A simple fact---Higher cost does not equal more affordable.

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    Ohmaposted 13 years ago

    So true!

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    Will Apseposted 13 years ago

    You can't expect lower costs if the private insurers are kept in the loop. As I understand it, Obama tried to give the US something like a National Health system but it was blocked. National Health systems remove a huge amount of unnecessary bureaucracy.
    
    Get sick in the UK and the only form you will have to fill in asks no more than your name, address and National Insurance number. If you don't have the number, they look it up on a computer and that is the bureaucracy finished as far as the patient is concerned.

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    Michael Willisposted 13 years ago

    American business is all about profit.  That can be good and be bad. But when a person's health is based on profits...that is simply wrong.

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