I'm confused. The dems spent months crafting and passing the Healthcare Bill, but now those facing re-election are not embracing it. I read an article that stated that not a single dem is touting this accomplishment in campaign ads. I don't know if this is true or not, but so far I haven't been able to find any. I have found some dem ads by those who voted against the bill, and they're bragging about that fact.
If this bill is so great, it seems that dems would be shouting it to the rafters.
I'm not saying I'm totally against the new law - I still have an open mind on several parts of it. It doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling, however, to see so many dems "running away" from it.
What do you think - not about the bill itself - (I think we've hashed and rehashed that here in the forums) but about the fact that the dems aren't using the passage in their re-election campaigns? Are they making a mistake?
Because getting elected isn't about talking about what you feel you accomplished.
It's about telling the people what they want to hear.
No, the opposing party has made it such a "taboo" subject that it would put it on the forefront once again and they'd run rampid with all their fear-mongering ads.
It is all politics. Right now, it isn't popular, and politicians in general aren't too virtuous. They, on the right and the left, will say anything to get re-elected. The bill, which addressed a serious problem, was a horrible bill. It accomplished some things, but kicked the can if you will.
well, it should be obvious why they aren't touting it:
"Hey! let's increase the number of people that have health insurance!! Economics is NOT about supply NOR demand!! ...."
... so... it obviously makes no sense.
That's OK. Nixon(R) ended the draft and gave 18 yr olds the right to vote to get re-elected. It made no sense to me that Bush(R) wanted to go into Iraq. Freeing them was a fall back claim to justify all that "Bad Intelligence" about WMD. The american people are sucked in by both parties. Some choice.
I chose no party.
My voter card doesn't say Democrat. It doesn't say Republican. Doesn't say Independent, doesn't say Green, doesn't say Socialist.
It is blank.
I don't base my decision on a party affiliation, I base my decision on which candidate makes the most sense to me.
And by that I mean, the lesser of evils. Who's lies are more believable. They're all liars.
I agree with this. I've voted for reps, dems, and indies. I most often vote R in presidential elections, but not always. My congressman is a D, and I've been happy with him. I really do wish we had a viable 3rd party. Maybe it would "shake up" the dems and reps! lol. I'd love to vote for a candidate I'm thrilled about instead of choosing the lesser of two evils.
How funny. You really just don't even try to understand do you? The largest percentage of the population is hitting the age when healthcare is going to be an issue. Right now, if you go to the emergency room, you can get free care, but bad care usually, which will lead to further unfunded trips to the emergency room. We haven't the money to make this work with regards to the amount of people involved. So tell me winger, what is your solution? Now, I know the conservative opinion is "get sick, no cash, you die...bummer." What else have you got? Anything realistic?
I'm not a Democrat, but my opinion is that the bill is not even close to what the base wanted. Liberals are very dissatisfied with it because it didn't do enough, conservatives hate it because....
well, face it they hate everything.
The major parts of the health care law have not taken effect - and won't for years. Once they do, I think health care reform will be as popular as Medicare and Social Security. People will gripe about the faults, but they will be there to stay.
That's why conservatives want to repeal BEFORE the law takes effect. However, to answer the OP, there's nothing there yet to take credit for.
Doug, I believe some things have already gone into effect. I don't think children with pre-existing conditions can be turned down, and college kids can stay on their parents' plan longer. Oh, and a tax credit for small businesses that provide insurance for their employees. Haven't those already gone into effect? These seem like good things to me. The dems should be touting those.
And remind people that you took away their choices in insurance, forced them to buy insurance CONGRESS wants them to have, not what they want to have, ignord the will of the people, tried to force them to buy something just for the privelege of breathing, and the list of reasons why Obamacare is an atrocious monstrosity is just barely getting started.
There were many sensible things proposed by both D's and R's, and all of them were pushed aside, in the haste to turn yet another industry into a government run monopoly. The whole plan is astoundingly stupid in conception, in execution, and in creation. Doing absolutely nothing would have been vastly better.
You sure like to embellish. NO ONE took away anyones choice in insurance or forced them to buy the insurance CONGRESS wants them to have. THAT'S SOME MORE FEAR-MONGERING.
Fact is, that people are actually starting to see and feel some of the effects of the Health Care Reform Bill and are starting to like it.
If you have insurance that you like, YOU CAN KEEP IT. If you don't you will be able to negotiate for better pricing, instead of waiting for your employer to negotiate for you (that usually means they save money--you don't).
Typical: "DO NOTHING" attitude is what keeps us mired in the problems that we're in. Obstruction and Delay tactics are keeping Americans on unemployment and welfare.
Look, don't post this stuff. You know it's not true. You should be able to argue the merits of Congress mandating purchases of services from regulated private enterprises, where Congress specificies the cost, the scope, nature, and scope of the service you're required to buy. I mean, really, it should be no problem at all, to demonstrate to us, that Congress is so incredibly much smarter than any human, that it should have the right to force us to do anything it wants, for our own good.
Or, you could admit that Obamacare is so incomprehensibly stupid that no sane person would want anything to do with it. That's the unvarnished truth.
Actually, it isn't government run nor is it by any means a monopoly. Support you position for once and explain? Right now you are just lying.
habee, those changes take effect on the 23 of this month I believe. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/0 … 69573.html
President Obama is touting this achievement in most of its communication. Take a look at barackobama.com - whitehouse.gov - and all those Democrats organizing website. The healthcare bill is an historic bill that deserves to be touted.
yes, we need to be reminded how incomprehensibly stupid politicians are when they have no experience at real life and instead, seek to run our lives by virtue of letting lobbyists write the mechanisms by which we live.
Seriuosly, how could ANY of you ever think that anything about Obamacare is anything but a complete disaster? Do you actually NOT know anything about anything?
You haven't presented a single point, but rather are playing the 5yr old, point your finger and yell strategy. Seriously, give a little effort. This is ridiculous. Tell me, whatcha got?
You haven't presented a single point, but rather are playing the 5yr old, point your finger and yell strategy. Seriously, give a little effort. This is ridiculous. Tell me, whatcha got?
You haven't presented a single point, but rather are playing the 5yr old, point your finger and yell strategy. Seriously, give a little effort. This is ridiculous. Tell me, whatcha got?
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