A very strange campaign strategy?

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  1. tobey100 profile image60
    tobey100posted 13 years ago

    President Obama made the statement last week at a fund-raiser that "facts and science and argument do not seem to be winning because we're hard-wired not to always think clearly when we're scared."

    Now is it just me or is calling the American voters stupid (don't always think clearly) and/or cowards (when we're scared) a winning strategy?

    1. dutchman1951 profile image60
      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yea, we are all full of fear and just do not Understand Him..!

      Boo Hoo...

    2. Jeff Berndt profile image73
      Jeff Berndtposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Okay, first of all, there's a difference between "You're stupid" and "you're not thinking clearly," just as there's a difference between "you're scared" and "you're a coward."

      I've been scared a lot of times, but it didn't make me a coward. If I was too afraid to do the right thing? That would make me a coward.

      A winning strategy? Since when has telling people the truth ever made anyone popular?

      1. JOE BARNETT profile image59
        JOE BARNETTposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        what is this ability that we have that allows us to see things as they are, but no one else? we have special powers. how are people able to extract something negative from "good morning"but, they do!

    3. livewithrichard profile image73
      livewithrichardposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      People who do not like Obama are going to take offense at everything he says.  The quote above sounds to me that he's just reminding those that were present that it's the Republican strategy to raise fear levels so voters will flock to those promising security but only deliver rhetoric.  Here it is, the US is doomed. Obama's economic policy will put us all in the poor house, the Chinese will take over our streets, immigrants and gays will erase the American culture...and oh yea, the terrorists will kill us real soon. Vote Republican so they can save us from all of that.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image61
        couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Well, since all that's been there, done that, maybe they can just save us from you.

    4. couturepopcafe profile image61
      couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Toby100 - What was the context of the speech?  Was it about the election?

    5. profile image0
      Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just another example of Obama's judgemental attitude toward others, always trying to analyze them (us) instead of himself.  He makes for a bad lawyer and a bad psychologist.
      He should give up his day job too.  lol

  2. Daniel Carter profile image63
    Daniel Carterposted 13 years ago

    He didn't say "they", he said, "we."
    And I think he's right for the most part. Most have a feeling that these are desperate times because of the meltdown and corruption throughout the political and money systems. We are knee-jerk reacting in most cases. Even crackpot Americans are having a hard time not over-reacting. The tea party is a sign of that. They run around like a cult religion trying to baptize anyone who will listen. Not that what they are doing is all wrong, but their approach is the same as any fundamentalist, conservative religion, and in fact their ideals attract that category of people. Nothing wrong with that from appearance either, except the railroad only runs one way, and it's their way or no way. So ultimately, they only serve themselves.

    That's not very American to me. I think Obama is probably right. I'm not his fan, nor anyone else's, but there are a few things he says that make sense.

  3. rebekahELLE profile image87
    rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

    I don't equate 'not thinking clearly' with 'stupid'. 
    they're not the same at all.
    from what I've studied about how the brain works, his statement is true.

    stupid is simply not thinking.

  4. Evan G Rogers profile image60
    Evan G Rogersposted 13 years ago

    Of course he's calling us stupid: how else will he save us from ourselves if "our wise governmental overlords" don't know better than us?

    It's not new, this is the way that almost all politicians talk to their population! If they create problems, then convince us that only they can solve the problems, then they get re-elected when they "solve" it!!

    Tu ne cede malis

    1. mom101 profile image60
      mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I gots to say it........talking about "the way politians talk to their population". 

      This cost Obama a vote. At one of his campaign stops he referred to a lady as "sweetie".  Hell no, it was not in the way I would have talked to my son if he had bumped his head, it was DEGRADING.

      If there is one thing I can NOT stand is for ANYBODY  to think they are better than anybody else.

      Burns me up.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image60
        Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        sounds like a libertarian in the making - Check out "Libertarianism Today" by Jacob H. Huebert.

        1. mom101 profile image60
          mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Im just learning what dem/rep is. Recently have been hearing about a tea party. Conservs   left   right   HOW DARE YOU. Where ARE yur manners sir Evan. Don't you think thats enough to take in  in one lifetime? maybe next time around you can teach me what libertarian is.

          (Couldn't resist)

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image60
            Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Democrats - "People are poor, and the government needs to steal money from the rich and give it to the poor"

            Republicans - "We're the greatest country ever, so let's go bomb another one!"

            Libertarians - "Government has to fund itself through theft (taxes) and thus we need to have as small a government as possible"

            1. mom101 profile image60
              mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

              All joking aside. I hate taxes. We pay way more than our share, certain things are triple taxed.

              I believe in taking care of our resources, yet I am in no way saying I am an environmenatlist.

              Government. It needs to MUCH smaller.  There are so many "positions" that are being repeated.  Jails. They are full.  People get put on community service every day.

              Schools? For the most part that is a JOKE.  We have allowed ourselves to make a mockery of a once highly respected profession. Teachers, had control over their classroom and in years past, teachers taught several different grade levels in one room and with many of the children only going through the 8th grade, of those, the majority of them went on to be very successful in business or careers as adults. No big diploma. For the most part, it's all about the money these days.

              Here is an example. Lets say you have Joe. He is amazing. Anything he tries to do, he can do it. Plumbing, carpentry, taxes, filing. But, he is limited in his education. He had to quit in the 5th grade. For the past 47 years he has held a supervisor position and has recieved 50 awards for a job well done.
              Now lets meet Sam. He is 25 years old. Has been in school most of his adult life with working at differnt eateries while he was going to school. He doesn't have many talents or skills. He got fired from his last job because he miscounted change back to a customer. But he has many degrees, all of which are displayed nicely in his room.

              Joe gets a letter in his mailbox at work notifying him that the company has been sold and the new owner will be taking applications next week and hiring the best man for the job. Good luck and thanks for a job well done. ...The next week rolls around, and Sam gets the job. More education. But at least Joe will get to train him for 3 months.

              That happens every day. Education is wonderful. But in the majority of the work world, basic education, reading, writing, math and we already speak English. So what if someone says ain't or got no. That isTRIVIAL in everyday living. (oh, i can see the hate mail now).

              Hey, I am a mom. I have been in and out of classrooms for 12years of my life, and 11 years with my son. There has been MAJOR change in the classroom. We had order. Today it is so confusing. Teach (to a test). That does not cut it!!!!!

              Most people are looking through them glasses that have dollar signs as lens.

              There are numerous things that we, each and everyone of us could do that would  save at least 1.00 a day. That's not a lot of money. But it could be.

              BUT, the cost of  convienence is expensive.  The cost of ego, is astronomical.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image60
                Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                i wrote a hub about education: did you know it costs, on average, 13,000 bucks per year to educate ONE student?!

                Anyway, you sound a LOT like a libertarian - someone who demands a smaller government because they know that private markets are more efficient and that freedom is the best choice.

                Check out  "Libertarianism Today" and "Defending the Undefendable" and maybe even "Economics in one lesson". They're all easy reads

                1. mom101 profile image60
                  mom101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Economics in one lesson.  Do they teach you HOW to live on 6,000 a year?

                  Private markets are more efficient? Yeah, I go along with that.  Now, because I do, does that make me a "label"?  If so, I will wear it proudly.

                  The cost you mentioned, I can see why.

  5. Jim Hunter profile image60
    Jim Hunterposted 13 years ago

    I don't see anyone defending all of this wonderful legislation that has been bestowed on us.

    The campaigns are nothing but "The tea party is full of racists".

    Stand up and say how you voted for the health care bill and get kicked to the curb with the rest of the trash.

    Brag about the stimulus bill and tell us how it created the economic boom we are experiencing now.

    Or maybe just shut up because we aren't buying the bullshit anymore.

    Goodbye democrats.

    1. Diane Inside profile image74
      Diane Insideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ha ha Jim that was good.

  6. ddsurfsca profile image72
    ddsurfscaposted 13 years ago

    Are you taking his words out of context to make them mean what you want because he is not republican or because he is black?  It took more than 22 months to screw up this economy, and it will probably take his whole presidency to TRY to repair it.
    Maybe you have written up something better than his health reform?  Make it a hub and let's critique it--maybe if it is good enough we can send it in to him to consider.  I dare say you could not do better, but how easy it is to critisize someone who it actually DOING SOMETHING, when you have all the time in the world to sit and think about it.

    1. Jeff Berndt profile image73
      Jeff Berndtposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The Right is a lot like Veruca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. "Don't care how, I want it now!"

      Well, these things take time. It took a long time under the Right to get into this mess; it's going to take a long time under the Left to get out of it.

      Or we could put the right back in charge, and go further down the path to a second gilded age.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image60
        Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        The left will "get us out" of THIS mess, but will lead us into 10 messes that are more dangerous than the one we left.

    2. couturepopcafe profile image61
      couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ddsurfsca - are you for or against?  "It took 22 months to screw up this economy".  Is that what you're calling 'doing something'?  Did you read the health care bill? (Congress's, not Obama's).  Well neither did they before they pushed it through.  That's doing something alright, but for all the wrong reasons.  They did it just to prove a point.

  7. ddsurfsca profile image72
    ddsurfscaposted 13 years ago

    I dont think he is trying to win a popularity contest either.  To do what he has on his plate right now, he is going to have to make unpopular discicions.  He probably dislikes what he has to do.  Someone has to do something, and whoever it is, will not be popular.

  8. Mighty Mom profile image79
    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    Hey CPC -- that is a way cool new avatar!
    Is that you?

    1. couturepopcafe profile image61
      couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Mom, if I could turn the clock back about 40 years.  My hair is not quite that white, though, and my glasses are red, not green.  I did it on WebFace.

  9. Flightkeeper profile image66
    Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

    I think Obama should keep doing what he's doing -- he's alienating more people. YES!

  10. Ralph Deeds profile image70
    Ralph Deedsposted 13 years ago

    Brenda, some of your Teatard friends are playing rough--

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics … amp;f=1001

    1. Jim Hunter profile image60
      Jim Hunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You're all over that but somehow missed the attack by SEIU henchmen on a black man during town hall meetings on the Health care debate.

      Selective news surfing?


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