This time the socialist movement in America is targeting puppy mills. That's right ladies and gentlemen, big government wants to control those puppy mills. Your god given constitutional right to own a dog is at stake here people! Force those puppy mills to give the animals adequate food, shelter and water and it will drive those puppy mills out of business, the costs of puppies will rise I tell ya! It's all a part of Obama's socialist plan to turn you all into Muslims! Don't believe me? Read this:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.c … emen_1.php
All I can say is thank God they have Joe the Plumber on board to stop this horrible big government interfering on how decent god fearing Americans mill their puppies!
It seems that socialism isused as a synonym for evil! Of course,those who do not know anything about socialism distort its meaning. I wish the entire world would change to socialism. so that the gluttons of capitalism would not have the power to exploit humanity to swell their own coffers.
Socialism is not communism! Untramelled capitalism is as evil as communism. Capitalists possess the tool of exploitation (capital)
which enslaves people. Americans, wake up and observe how capitalism
enslaves you. I have been to many countries and I have seen all political,social and economic function. Capitalism is an evil that has brought untold sufferings to masses. Capitalists would hire you when you are a potential asset to their drive to amass more money. But,
when their venture does not bring them maximum profit what happens to their slaves? They are fired irrespective of your loyality and past efforts to enrich them- they just "kick you out"! What about your family? The capitalist is devoid of compassion and what happens to you and your family is no concern of the capitalist.
The capitalist has little morals. Look at the pornographic industry which earns billions a year. However, many of you Americans do not have guts nor the morals to destroy the pornographic industry which contributes
in great measure to the producing of rapists and other sexual deviants.
What balderdash that Obama is planning to turn all into Muslims! What
connection is there between socialism and Islam. Socialists are
not confined to any religious group. Such preposterous statements
only come from the ignorant who tune in to Rush Limbaugh,Sean Hannitty, Mark Levin and other right-wing nuts from the fanatical fringe of the USA!
Even though Kirstenblog's post is, I assume, meant to be tongue-in-cheek, it still scares me that many Americans today are filled with the delusions of their own habitual bias.
People trying to protect defenseless creatures are demonized with exaggerated slurs and it becomes socially acceptable among fools to speak their jaundiced lies publicly in the hopes of encouraging the rest of the mob to join them in their blatant hatred and resentment.
"Let's appeal to the worst in people!" IT'S ALL PART OF THE RIGHT'S FRIGHT CAMPAIGN!
To true, to true. You know they never get corrupted either right? Enron? Somehow that was Obama's fault, I am sure of it. Business is always just totally wonderful, hey why don't we let corporations run the country? So long as they can pull in a profit they are sure to get us out of debt right?
apparently people don't care if they're puppies come from mills. Otherwise they'd ACTUALLY pay for properly raised puppies.
My mom was a Yorkie breeder for about a decade. Puppy mills are disgusting. But tell a family that their puppy will cost 5-10 hundred bucks and they are likely going to go down to puppy mill central and buy these poor guys.
if you want them to go away, buy from a breeder.
Are you kidding me Evan?! How about...if you want a puppy... RESCUE ONE! There are plenty. RESCUE! Good people working for a good cause for innocent animals.
Dog breeding becomes bureaucratized. Cost goes up, quality goes down. Only a select few will survive the cumbersome government regulation; they will monopolize the dog breeding market. Big-business dog breeding is in bed with big government since big government is what created it in the first place. They make bad business choices because they know they can rely on government subsidies. They fail. They get bailed out at the tax payers expense. Dog breeders say "my bad". Business continues.
HA, slanted enough?
Nope, sorry not slanted enough, go into Obama's Muslim Terror Anchor Puppies and we will be getting close
WTF-ever, dude. These are living creatures we're talking about, not assembly line plastic toys.
I'm disgusted by this, but it unfortunately just goes to show that people don't REALLY care if their puppies are from mills. If they did, this kind of stuff would go away.
Most pet stores buy from mills, and unfortunately a properly bred dog will run $500+ (if you're lucky).
Find a breeder, and buy from them. It costs more, but if you want to see Mills go away, buy from a breeder.
Informed people will buy from a reputable breeder. However, there are a lot of uninformed people who either are not aware of the prevalence of puppy mills or who are easily fooled into believing that they are buying from a reputable breeder.
Puppy mills exist because, without proper regulation and enforcement, a good proportion of business owners will abuse the helpless and deceive decent people just to make a buck.
You know, if we start worrying about animal abuse, the next thing you know we'll have laws protecting people.. that's NOT good for business!
But, we don't need laws protecting animals or people, because businesses that abuse either will FAIL, right? The free market takes care of everything, including abusers of the helpless. Besides, the noble business owner would never choose to be cruel just to make money.
You are a wise kitty, I bet you work for your kibble too, unlike those lazy free loading terror anchor puppies.
True. Sometimes I forget about the wisdom of the Free Market.
I have read stories about employee abuse, child labor, company stores and worse, but all that was made up by commie liars who would destroy America by their stupid laws.
I HATE Commies, unions and big government. What's good for business is good for America!
Puppy mills exist because people don't care enough to buy reputable dogs.
Some guy figured "hey, i bet i can create a puppy mill, and things'll be awesome". And then... no one gave a rat's behind, and the business venture kept going.
And, to this day, puppy mills still exist because people don't care enough.
Yes, I care. Yes, you care. Yes, just about everyone here cares.
But not enough people care:
I'm sorry, but there really is no other explanation for the issue: People STILL buy puppies from mills, and thus they still exist.
The thing that the pinko liberals never understand is that once a business owner has made enough money that he or she couldn't spend it in a thousand lifetimes, they don't NEED any more, so they have no reason to abuse anyone.
It's just common sense!
Are you living on Jupiter? If you do, you are lucky because when one moon goes out there are many more to keep the light burning
Utter rubbish.A person who has enough money does not stop trying to make more! That is the problem with capitalists-they never supress their urge to make more money. Oh yes, they would supply you with many reasons why they would not rest from making more money.The word is
CHARITY! Of course, you know that not many of t hese gluttons would part so easily with their spoils. They have no reason to abuse somebody?
Lady, you need a basic course in psychology!
Hint, in a while you'll recognise writing styles and fundamental beliefs and quickly realise when folk have their tongues firmly in their cheeks. Then you'll look back and blush at your errors, but never mind, most people do it and most people it's done to take it in good part.
And you thought I was joking about these terror anchor puppies
What we need is a "no pup left behind" policy.
This is definitely an area where more government regulations are needed. Even for the laws already in place, too many inspectors are lazy or easily bribed. Also, there simply aren't enough inspectors to go around.
Rather than a regulatory agency and a myriad of labyrinthine rules a simple rule by which all activity can be regulated with no real intrusion. Complete. total disclosure of how the dogs are bred, kept, raised and fed. What dog lover would purchase from a puppy mill after seeing that horror show? It is the cynical that breed dogs like this it is not the dog lover.
Most private dog breeders are lovers of the specific breed they are producing and want to give good animals good homes. Increased government and bureaucratic interference will end the decent dog owners business along with the puppy mills.
By their nature government agencies do not care about you or me they care about procedures, rules, regulations, paperwork, etc....
The greatest disinfectant is sunshine. The required exposure of the disgusting practices of puppy mills should be sufficient regulation.
By nature businesses do not care about you or me, but profit. The concept that we should ignore horrible practices because if we require that standards be practiced will be too costly is fodder for idiots. It is the same ridiculous and ill-thought out argument that we should not require that chemical companies don't poor their waste into our streams, thus causing birth defects and cancer in children, because making them not kill us would cost them money, and they would pass the costs along to us. Wait...you people actually use that argument, and have in the last week. SO, let's be blunt. People like yourself are pure evil.
Wow, thank you for your encouraging thoughts. I suppose it makes sense to denigrate and call names when you are trying to offer an intelligent argument and convince others as to the efficacy of your position. I see the logic and clear thinking of your position and cannot wait to saddle everyone with the world you envision for them. I am so glad we had this talk. The world that you envision is, no doubt, rich and free, Where can I sign up and do I get a cool armband? Is there a cool song like "L'internationale?" Do people get to call each other comrade or citizen? Can I have a red star for my gray suit?
Like your references to President Hussein? You have absolutely no credibility.
Hussein is his middle name. He is president. President Hussein - I suppose calling some one by his name is calling him a name. You are so right how reprehensible I am. Thank you for pointing out the errors of my ways. I guess I will have to stop calling him President Hussein and start calling him President Shining Handsome Obama.
You know good and well why you are referring to him as President Hussein, and it isn't because you like his middle name. Your phony indignation merely reveals your inability to own up to your intentional manipulation of his name to imply some vague feeling that he's either foreign-born, a Muslim, a terrorist, or all three. You are entitled to call him whatever you want; at least be adult enough to own up to your reasons for doing so.
You have decided what my intention is without ever knowing what it is. Isn't it his name? Doesn't he have a sense of humor about his own name? I call him Hussein or Shining Handsome because it tweaks people like you who want to get their undies in a knot. I love that reaction - that is what makes me laugh. I don't care about his name. It could be Rain Pie Mulberry Bushel Basket for all I care. It is your reaction that is the reward I was seeking. No doubt President Shining Handsome would laugh at a good nose twist. TWEAK!
I love it when people ascribe their own deep seeded hostilities to me. I couldn't care less about the seriousness with which most people approach these political topics. It is an endless source of fascination for me the hostility that people feel one for each other and call it reasoning or logic or argument. Just goes to show that ultimately liberalism is about feelings not thoughts.
I am not tweaked. I am merely calling you on your dishonesty, just like Ron did.
When I refer to GWB as "Dumbya" I don't pretend it's just for laughs. I know exactly what I'm doing and have no problem saying so.
I know exactly what I mean when I call Rain Pie Mulberry Bushel Basket President Shining Handsome Obama. I am making you mad - that is awesome and my intent. You can say anything you want about me. You have no idea who I am, what I am about or anything else of importance to me so I will continue doing as I wish. It is as much a laugh to me as your are becoming. So when you see Shining Handsome tell him I said hi.
You can keep your mind reading act to yourself.
Aw, poor misunderstood UC pretends he wants reasoned, logical debate while also saying he wants to intentionally piss off liberals by referring to the president as "President Hussein" but only after first pretending he was merely using the president's own name so what's the big deal, then next saying it was for humor.
This liberal is not mad, just amused at the childishness of your argument.
Really, every time I call Rain Pie Mulberry Bushel Basket Hussein a liberal gets on me and you don't think that is fun for me? It is so fun. I don't really argue with liberals because one must share a universe of discourse to have an argument and we do not. So, since an argument is impossible, the internet is the world's greatest form of entertainment and knowing how humorless most liberals actually are I just love the game.
Ah, you see, now you've inadvertently revealed one of the biggest problems our country is facing: the inability of so many people to have a discussion with those who don't agree with them. And you are a contributor to this problem.
Since I do have those types of discussions with conservatives in real life, I know that they are possible. Heck, we even joke around and laugh with each other. Imagine that! Since you apparently don't, then do you think maybe it could be your problem and not the "liberals"?
Seriously, have a nice evening, UC. I'm going to go hug a conservative now.
Again you presume too much. I never said anything about being a conservative. And I don't care much for arguments with liberals because they understand so little. I don't have the desire to walk anyone through fundamentals.
LOL! Where did I say you were a conservative? Since you obviously hold liberals in disdain, I assumed you were not one.
Again, your last line says it all. You are a contributor to this nation's problems. By stubbornly not participating in dialogue with those you disagree with, you are contributing to the stagnation and decline of intellectual discourse.
Congratulations. You continue to reflect the lack of intellectual curiosity that so marked Dumbya's years in office. You should be proud.
How would intellectual curiosity be satisfied with a "dialogue" with a liberal. How can there be dialogue when it inevitably degenerates into name calling, contradiction and denigration. After years of conversation with liberals I have discovered that it is no use. One must share a common language in order to converse and we do not. And so it becomes a game of absurdities and one may either be frustrated by it or laugh at it. I now choose laughter.
He would laugh at you, there is no doubt of that!
You mean President Shining Handsome?
However, you never addressed the issue that by your statements previously listed in this post, and your response to my post, that you agree that we should allow corporations to do whatever they want to the population in order to maximize their profits. You agree with dumping chemicals in the water, slave labor, ignoring all emission controls, and basically kill everyone around that in a haste to make another dollar. Yeah...it isn't about being a citizen or a comrade; it is about being a good human being. You can grrr and call Obama whatever you want, but it doesn't change the issue that your belief structure kills people for no reason but profit, children, elderly, pregnant women, all of us. Do you care? Or would you rather have another $20 bucks?
i'm beginning to think he is an amature activist or rather wants to be because all of his arguments are reverse facts, illogical and insulting. he's not here to learn or have an intelligent discussion. he states " it's fun to him" nothing positive will ever be gained by talking with him. he says gov't agencies don't care, but it,s always the agency that comes only after the abuse. neitzsche said logic began to exist in the human mind out of illogic. maybe when he reaches another level or two , untill then...
If you can show me the logic in name calling, denigration and hostility I might agree with you. It is funny. You make presumptions about who you think I am and then call yourself logical. Omniscience must be a difficult burden. It is fun for me because the absurd is either frustrating or funny - I choose funny.
Then you must find yourself very amusing TK.
I also find President Pea Pod Wallaby Tennis Court amusing. I find people who take themselves far too seriously, amusing. I have yet to meet a liberal who isn't amusing for that reason. Thanks for the laughs.
People who take themselves, (and their words) seriously are difficult for you to relate to TK, we get that. Perhaps some day your self esteem will improve to the point that you will take yourself somewhat seriously.
It is you that I do not take seriously preciously because you have enough seriousness about yourself for both of us without regard to your own absurdity. If you took your self less seriously perhaps you would notice how ridiculous it is to get your nickers in a knot over President Hussein or even better President Shining Handsome Obama or, my increasingly favorite, President random combination of words. If you embraced your absurdity you might notice how liberalism is so thoroughly absurd.
Preciously? nickers? your self? Is your keyboard on auto-pilot?
really, that's it. oh no, 3 typos. You caught me. I am sure you feel so much more superior now, wait how could you. As a liberal you are automatically my superior, aren't you. Are you going to be the one to collect the shoes or the teeth?
I am outraged by government and how it subsidizes unsanitary slaughter houses and animal testing. I would like to see an end to this nonsense.
"Socialism" cannot be defined correctly. Whenever people intend to seize others' property, it is "socialism". If everyone goes to their own work and earn their own living, there is no necessity for socialism or communism. Let everyone go to work and earn themselves and raise their standard of living. After becoming rich, no one will like socialism or communism. Let everyone do hardwork, earn and become rich.
But how do you get rich when the person you work for keeps more of your earnings than he passes on to you?
you get rich by taking risks. The entrepreneur isn't valued in our society.
If you bother to risk your entire future by starting up a business, and then you're forced to pay all your profits to the people who work for you because the government forces you to...
... what's the point in taking the risk?
Yes, you get rich by taking risks, not by forcing your fellow man into slavery. If slavery is the only way you can do it you aren't an entrepreneur, you're a robber.
Do you think if Bill Gates had paid $1.50 an hour he would be where he is now?
Get out in the real world and see some of the abuses of the capitalist system.
Are you nuts? Who the heck would work for Gates for $1.50/hour? NO ONE!!
gates would be penniless because no one would work for him!
Welcome to markets. Competition counters greed, and greed counters competition.
I need to get into the real world? you need to quit reading Marx! The man couldn't even understand how "trade" works, and half the world believes his ideas to be holy documents. It's disgusting. Socialism was directly responsible for over 75 million deaths in the last century alone .
See, you do understand that slave wages are not in everybody's best interests, not even the wage payer.
And how was socialism directly responsible for over 75 million deaths in the last century?
If you are going to spout that guff about Hitler being a socialist, well all I can say to that is that the only thing in the UK that the conservatives conserve is their own position and wealth every thing else is up for sale.
hitler "only" killed about 11 mill. Stalin, Lenin, Chairman Mao, Che -- they were socialists. Mao alone killed over 50 m.
and another thing- how is it "slave labor" if people choose NOT to work with one another? your logic is completely flawed here. I'm detecting Marx's complete misunderstanding of trade.
Wow...so no you are griping about having to pay the people who perform the work. Evan, you rock. I appreciate you being upfront in your pathology. Very few people can be as reprehensible in their belief structure and yet so blunt. You know, they had guillotines for people with those same belief systems back in the day. I wouldn't go to the public square if crowds start gathering if I were you.
You clearly don't understand the word "risk".
Also, you completely are twisting what I'm saying. I'm not "griping" about "having to pay people to work". I never once made that claim.
It's disgusting that you're twisting my words so thoroughly. You even got mad at me for suggesting people buy from reputable breeders instead of mills. You just hate me. I'm done talking to you.
Do you expect him to take less and donate major portion to the workers and labourers? Is that just? Workers should get wages according to their volume of work. If anyone dreams of cutting into the capital, the whole business will collapse... because the investor only knows its value. Only communists talk like this. Because, they have not yet seen the hardships faced by our ancestors. They hold a book written by Marx and read something. And think it is fit for the present world. The circumstances prevailed at that time in Germany and Europe in general warranted his policies to become famous. But it is dead.
Paying a fair wage does not in any way involve anybody making donations in a well run and profitable business. Is it just that a man should break his back and have his family poorly clothed and fed so that another can live in comfort off the fruits of his labour?
A fairer sharing of profits does not involve cutting into capital, capital only accumulated from the labours of the workers.
Without the major investors in the business, the workers, there would be no business.
I'm only spouting Marxism by default, I don't follow him, I'd reached many conclusions well before I was familiar with Marx.
Imagine being told no pay rise for 300 workers because the boss has just bought a new Rolls Royce, for cash? No payrise for 100 guys making kitchen units because the boss has spent the money on home improvements.
We still see prosecutions for damage to workers caused by employers making short cuts. Not much has changed.
It is not socialism that is the problem! It is untramelled capitalism that one should despise! have you seen how the patriotic insurance companies find sources outside the U.S.A. to do the work while millions of Americans suffer. These companies are motivated by greed not compassion for workers in other countries. I destest the Taliban and other similar neanderthal idiots who are trying to destroy the U.S.A. But,
they are not alone!
untramelled? have you SEEN the federal registrar? we're talking hundreds of thousands of pages.
Everyone in USA is more or less ignorant of the status of world economy. If insurance companies go out from USA, it is because of the investment potential from other countries. The work of the insurance companies is not to offer jobs to Americans... it is just to collect investment and use it as capital for their economy. If Americans were wise enough to same a pence a day, the present situation could not have come. Indian economy survived because of people's savings-cum-investments only. At least from now on, please go to a bank, start saving from any small amount you earn. Things will get better in a year's time.
India survived as a result of handouts from the World Bank and the result of the import of low paid jobs so they could be performed at even lower cost.
You could say India survived by exporting poverty!
You got one thing wrong.
"India survived as a result of handouts from the World Bank..."
You forgot to mention that the money in question was stolen from people who generated wealth for the world.
Good grief, Evan—you are an obsessive one-trick-elephant!
I sympathize with that poor attractive woman you're with in that photo--you must drive her nuts.
It's funny that you call me a one-trick pony, when you're consistently arguing for one-trick as well.
You argue for the state probably non-stop. I argue against it non-stop.
Sorry that you fail to see this.
My fiance loves me, and I love her. Let's not bring each others' spouses into our arguments, please.
So why is it that MISSOURI has 30% of the nation's puppy mills?
And how is it that along with Joe the Plumber a new "faction" of the Tea Party called the MEXICO Tea Party rose up to oppose this socialist plot to make us all into MUSLIMS.
Three M words.
Think about it, folks.
I think NOT. There's something going on here besides breeding cockapoos and pugs. Yessiree.
BTW, here's link to the outcome of the Missouri Measure B election. It passed... but narrowly.
Joe the Plumber and other members of the Tea Party are nut cases.They are trying to put the spanner in the works for Obama> But, Obama is above them all! He is very intelligent,polished, witty,compassionate, courteous.....etc.
The members of the Tea Party? A horde of rabble-rousing good for
grunting and squeeking in a mob. Please God save this country from us such a mad mob of mean and miserable minions!
At first Mighty Mom, anyone would think that your post is in jest. You actually think that the link between MO, Muslims, and what...Mexico or Mills maybe, are a secret socialist plot. However, you really believe this. You think because you can find 3 words in one of the craziest linear thoughts around, that they are linked and a socialist plot. Holy cow. I should be shocked, but I am not anymore. Why is it that the people who need the most psychological help don't think they do?
You obviously don't know her, she is being sarcastic...
Sarcasm does seem to go right over the heads of some
Not all tho, one or two picked up on the tongue and cheek nature of my OP. I believe I shall attempt to keep my tongue firmly pressed against my cheek in all of my postings here from now on. Perhaps by being absurd it will illuminate the absurdity (veiled as seriousness) that I see on these forums daily.
People were always getting mad at me in the past thinking I was serious about some of the things I said...
It's like a Tea Partier watching Stephen Colbert everyday for inspiration.
Puppy and kitty mills need to be OUTLAWED period! Substandard breeding adds to added vet bills latter on down the road. I'm not going to mention the animal cruelty. Joe the Plummer needs to stay out of politics and get a job! For the conservatives who go through their day to day business in a total panic that we're going to become a socialist country and scared of Muslims, GET A LIFE! For those who have a short term memory and that need to be reminded every five minutes, we're at war with terrorism, not Islam!
Paul Wingert, you said it very well. Do not look for scapegoat for your
misdirection in life. Yes, the terrorists that killed so many on 9/11/2001
were all Muslims. But, you do not need to have more than an ounce of grey matter to conclude that not all Muslims are terrorists. During the age of colonialism, so many white European men invaded other countries, raped ,robbed and enslaved people who were not white. Are you gouing to conclude that al;l whites are barbaric and savages?
Yes, Joe the Plumber needs to find work and pay the taxes due from him instead of running with the hyenas of the Tea Party Movement who are adept at blaming liberals for all the troubles of the world . They must also learn civility andf adhere to civilzed norms. They remind me of the Goths and Visigoths of Europe. These barbarians wreaked havoc on many European counrties.
Boys, boys--trying to express an opinion in the middle of a personal shit fight is tedious.
I think we have bigger fish to fry here. With all the issues, puppy mills are not the priority. Why does it allways have to be so divisve? R vs D, Left vs Right, Liberal vs Conservative, Capitalism vs Socialism. I mean there is more than one way to skin a cat. If we don't find a way to end the arguing over every little thing we are doomed. You know they do say that every dog will have it's day.
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