This is how the GOP Congress will regulate Wall Street?

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  1. Stacie L profile image86
    Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

    Rarely do you see a politician quite this honest: Last Wednesday, just hours after securing the position of chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., told the Birmingham News that "in Washington, the view is that the banks are to be regulated, and my view is that Washington and the regulators are there to serve the banks."

    In the very next paragraph, the newspaper reported that Bachus "later clarified his comment to say that regulators should set the parameters in which banks operate but not micromanage them." But the damage was already done. Bachus' quote rocketed around the lefty blogosphere, and on Monday night the 62-year-old congressman earned a coveted "Worst Person in the World" award from Keith Olbermann on MSNBC's "Countdown."

    The candor of Bachus' initial statement is eyebrow-raising, no doubt about it, but the fuss and bother over his revelation is a little bit disingenuous. We don't need to listen to the Alabama Republican's words to understand just which master he intends to serve -- all you need to do is watch his actions. Together with his fellow Alabaman Republican, Sen. Richard Shelby, the powerful ranking member of the Senate Banking Committee, he's part of a dynamic duo of market fundamentalist crusaders who will likely set the tone for how banking reform and regulatory oversight aimed at Wall Street are implemented for the next two years

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    1. couturepopcafe profile image60
      couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Once again, media contributes to the chaos, or creates it.  You probably won't hear anything about Bachus's explanation.

      1. Mike Dale profile image61
        Mike Daleposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        That's about all they do, however they can stir to gain points for their side, and misrepresent the other side. Main stream media a fools game not worth even paying attention to.

    2. profile image58
      logic,commonsenseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, here's the deal.  The Democrats have been in charge for 2 years with the house, the senate and the presidency.  How much regulation have they passed?  There is little difference between the parties aside from the rhetoric.  That is why, until we get rid of the entrenched career politicians of both parties, very little will change.

    3. Evan G Rogers profile image59
      Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just about every congress man believes the same thing...

      ... yet everyone still thinks that Government can regulate things.

  2. EPman profile image60
    EPmanposted 13 years ago

    Serving the banks?

    Bailouts, anyone?

    Ohhh wait, those were to help the little guy... I must have forgotten. roll

  3. lovemychris profile image76
    lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

    What's the big deal? We all KNOW that's the Republican philosophy! Has been since Ronnie Ray-Guns!!

    btw...lots of interesting stuff coming out on Reagan's "StarWars" program.  Oh, you dirty little devil!!

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image60
      BillyDRitchieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hmmmm, Ronald Reagan?  Also known as the longest period of peace time prosperity in our history?

      1. lovemychris profile image76
        lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Also known as the administration of Iran/Contra, and supplying guns and crack to the inner cities to fund it.

        1. couturepopcafe profile image60
          couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, that had to be a tough call for a president.  Do you leave hostages when you actually have a bargaining tool, and an illegal one at that?  What started out as an act of diplomacy, trying to open the door to Iran, ended up being a "guns for hostages' trade.  Reagan admitted that, whether he had all the information handed to him or not, he was ultimately responsible.  Congress and the Tower Commission (Reagan appointed) found him 'not guilty' of knowing the full extent of the program.  I think most of those indicted were pardoned by Bush 41.

          Not sure what your alluding to when you talk about supplying crack to fund it.

          1. BillyDRitchie profile image60
            BillyDRitchieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I'm never quite sure what she's talking about, period...

      2. Stump Parrish profile image60
        Stump Parrishposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        That's odd Billy. I hust googled the phrase...The Longest Peacetime Economic Expansion In American History. Thye first post stated something a little different than your claim.

        Friday, January 8, 1999


        The Clinton-Gore Administration Has Helped Create Nearly 18 Million New Jobs. Five years ago, President Clinton and Vice President Gore put in place a bold three-part economic strategy to: (1) cut the deficit, help reduce interest rates, and spur business investment; (2) invest in education, health care, and technology so that America was prepared to meet the challenges of the 21st Century; and (3) open markets abroad so that American workers would have a fair chance to compete and win across the globe. Under the economic leadership of President Clinton and Vice President Gore:

        17.7 Million New Jobs Have Been Created -- 378,000 Were Added Last Month Alone. Since President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, the American economy has added 17.7 million new jobs. Last month alone, 378,000 more jobs were added to the economy;
        Unemployment Is At A 29-year low. In December, the unemployment rate dropped to 4.3 percent, its lowest level in 29 years. The unemployment rate has now been below 5 percent for the last 18 months;
        Private Sector Employment Is Booming. Since 1993, the private sector has added 16.3 million new jobs, with over 2.5 million created in the last year alone. Under President Clinton and Vice President Gore, 93 percent of new jobs have been in the private sector, the highest percentage in 50 years.
        The Longest Peacetime Economic Expansion In American History. The President's Council on Economic Advisors (CEA) now believes that December will mark the 93rd consecutive month of economic expansion, making it the longest peacetime expansion in American history.

        I don't claim to be a finacial genius or anything. I simply state that I don't pay attention to Fox News Netwotk and I believe this add 10 points to my IQ score, lol.

        Most of the information I come across paints a different picture of Reaganomics. … _cause.htm

        How Reagan Sowed the Seeds of America's Demise

        By  - March 30, 2010

        It has been over a year now since "The Great Recession" officially began, and yet even a basic understanding of the real causes of America's economic problems has still not emerged in the public. Indeed new movements have emerged touting as solutions to our current economic problems many of the very policy ideas that are actually the causes of our current economic problems. The rallying cry of conservatives across America has been a "return to the policies of Reagan!" The claim of many American conservatives has been that Ronald Reagan faced similar economic conditions when he was elected, and he was able to turn the economy around, so we need to return to the principles he used to reinvigorate the American economy.

        The reality is that the economic policies of the "Reagan Revolution" have been in effect for the past three decades, and it is these very policies that have caused the economic situation that America finds itself in today.

        During his first presidential campaign Ronald Reagan campaigned against government spending, he campaigned on reducing the national debt, he campaigned for individual responsibility, and he campaigned for broader American capital ownership.

        The effects of his policies, however, had all of the exact opposite effects, and yet amazingly even today the vast majority of all Americans, especially conservatives, still believe Reagan's rhetoric and not the real effects of his policies.

        In 1980 Reagan campaigned against what he called "out of control" deficit spending by the federal government. He identified the source of this "out of control" spending largely as social welfare programs. Shortly after taking office in 1981 Reagan gave a televised speech to the country in which he stated:

        "By 1960 our national debt stood at $284 billion. Congress in 1971 decided to put a ceiling of 400 billion on our ability to borrow. Today the debt is 934 billion. ...

        Here you see two trend lines. The bottom line shows the increase in tax revenues. The red line on top is the increase in government spending. Both lines turn upward, reflecting the giant tax increase already built into the system for this year 1981, and the increases in spending built into the '81 and '82 budgets and on into the future. As you can see, the spending line rises at a steeper slant than the revenue line. And that gap between those lines illustrates the increasing deficits we've been running, including this year's $80 billion deficit. Now, in the second chart, the lines represent the positive effects when Congress accepts our economic program. Both lines continue to rise, allowing for necessary growth, but the gap narrows as spending cuts continue over the next few years until finally the two lines come together, meaning a balanced budget. I am confident that my administration can achieve that. At that point tax revenues, in spite of rate reductions, will be increasing faster than spending, which means we can look forward to further reductions in the tax rates....

        Our aim is to increase our national wealth so all will have more, not just redistribute what we already have which is just a sharing of scarcity. We can begin to reward hard work and risk-taking, by forcing this Government to live within its means. Over the years we've let negative economic forces run out of control. We stalled the judgment day, but we no longer have that luxury. We're out of time. ...

        We can leave our children with an unrepayable massive debt and a shattered economy, or we can leave them liberty in a land where every individual has the opportunity to be whatever God intended us to be. All it takes is a little common sense and recognition of our own ability. Together we can forge a new beginning for America."

        Ronald Reagan: Address to the Nation on the Economy, Feb. 5, 1981

        The irony of this speech is that the national debt was not out of control at all in 1981, in fact the national debt was at the lowest point it has ever been since World War II in 1980. In the speech Reagan cited national debt figures in raw dollar amounts, unadjusted for inflation and not tied to GDP. Those figures are essentially worthless and no economist would ever use them as a measure of the national debt. But presenting the national debt as a problem was a means of justifying significant cuts in domestic spending, which he framed as "redistribution".


        Reagan then went on to claim that by reducing income tax rates it would increase the growth in income tax revenues, and that the principle of reduced rates leading to increasing revenue would lead to a cycle of income tax reductions resulting in ever growing income tax collections. In fact federal tax collections under Reagan grew at the lowest pace of any post WWII president and his successor George Bush was forced to raise taxes in order to avert a total budget calamity.

        The final irony of this speech is that today is indeed our judgment day on the negative economic forces that Reagan himself unleashed. Reagan warned against leaving our children with an "unrepayable" massive debt and a shattered economy, yet at the time that Reagan took office the United States was a nation of savers and the government had barely any debt at all. The policies instituted by Reagan led to a massive ballooning of the national debt and turned a nation of savers into a nation of debtors. While the conditions that Reagan warned against did not even exist when he took office, Reagan himself set the forces in motion that would bring about the very conditions that he so direly warned against.

        Not only did Reagan's policies lead to massive increases in the federal debt, but household debt grew as well while personal savings declined.

        Of course I realize this is an attempt by the socialist Democrats to give the Repubs a bad name. Bill O'Lielly says so, right?

  4. lovemychris profile image76
    lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

    Let's not forget "The October Surprise", and this:

    The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state. 

    Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently  reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987

    " These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached."

    Rex 84 was written up and planned by Oliver North...famous for shredding gvt documents, and buying a very expensive security system for his private property with public funds.

    Also, ole Uncle Ronnie was known for these quaint sayings: "Welfare Queen", and "We're cutting their allowance"

    Ah, the good old days.......NOT.

  5. lovemychris profile image76
    lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

    Oh yes, and i didn't even mention the Sandanistas and those murdered nuns, and the non-funding of aids research and medicines, because it was mainly hitting gays and black people....

    I'm telling you---we in America live in parrallel universes.

    His hero is my agent of destruction.

  6. lovemychris profile image76
    lovemychrisposted 13 years ago


    "On August 18, 1996, the San Jose Mercury News published the first installment of a three-part series of articles concerning crack cocaine, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the Nicaraguan Contra army. The introduction to the first installment of the series read:

    For the better part of a decade, a San Francisco Bay Area drug ring sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to a Latin American guerrilla army run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, a Mercury News investigation has found.

    This drug network opened the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles, a city now known as the "crack" capital of the world. The cocaine that flooded in helped spark a crack explosion in urban America . . . and provided the cash and connections needed for L.A.'s gangs to buy automatic weapons."

    Those ghetto's were just Collateral Damage.
    Favorite term of the Military/Industrial/University/Service/Mercenary/Private Contractors Complex.

  7. lovemychris profile image76
    lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

    Another hard call:

    "Do we leave Hostages in Iran longer, so Reagan can be the hero, and Carter look like a wimp?"

    Yes, we do. "October Surprise". google it.

  8. lovemychris profile image76
    lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

    "How Reagan Sowed the Seeds of America's Demise"

    And back we go again....
    Only they are empowered even more now, since "we asked for it".

    It's going to take big losses from the lower upper-classes before anything gets done.

    Should be pretty quick...I'd say right about January.

    get ready for Gvt of revenge.

  9. Evan G Rogers profile image59
    Evan G Rogersposted 13 years ago

    wow, really, we're going to argue which party is better?

    They're the same party, people, wake up. One takes your money and spends it on poor people and the banks, the other takes your money and uses it to grope you at the airport and support banks.


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