3rd str8 study to prove Fox News makes you stupid

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   Stump Parrishposted 12 years ago

   "World Public Opinion, a project managed by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, conducted a survey of American voters that shows that Fox News viewers are significantly more misinformed than consumers of news from other sources. What’s more, the study shows that greater exposure to Fox News increases misinformation."
   
   
   http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/st … you_stupid
   
   "So the more you watch, the less you know. Or to be precise, the more you think you know that is actually false. This study corroborates a previous PIPA study that focused on the Iraq war with similar results. And there was an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll that demonstrated the break with reality on the part of Fox viewers with regard to health care. The body of evidence that Fox News is nothing but a propaganda machine dedicated to lies is growing by the day. The sad thing is that their popularity is also increasing steadily. A steadily growing segment of our population has no interest in the truth and large numbers of them are even organizing against the truth. The Tea Party quickly comes to mind now doesn't it?"
   
   This problem is compounded by the fact that not all Republicans watch the Faux News Network. Lucky for them they can get the same scripted lies straight from the Republican party and the good old Newsmax "Comedy team's" website.
   
   How does one develop the mindset that allow this person to be repeatedly proven wrong on a multitude of subjects and still be convinced that they are 100% correct?
   
   A large portion of this country has no interest in the truth, or proof of anything. I guess these people have the same level of blind faith in their political leaders as they have in their church leaders.
   
   No amount of proof or information will ever change the mind that no longer has the need of either.
   
   I am really hoping some devoted Faux News Fans will explain these surveys to me.

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   This is what I think:
   
   "The fact is that people identify with the group of which they are a part, and are suspicious or fearful of those who belong to other groups. This tribalism is true in countless dimensions, from income to accent to national origin to sexual activity to race to musical taste. Across the world, we perceive safety in that which is most like us, and danger in that which is different. The hatred of other races is simply one facet of this fear of “other” magnified and extolled. It is also true that there are and have always been individuals who will take advantage of this fear for their own personal gain."
   
   White/Christian people are losing their dominance, and some don't like it. Even to go so far as to re-write history and say what African American people suffered here really "wasn't so bad".
   Added to their mantra that Native Americans should be grateful because Europeans brought "culture" to America.
   
   And Fox is using it for gain. How else do you explain Beck moving from CNN to Fox, and doing a 180 degree turn on his views? His views are connected to a dollar sign.
   Fox exploits hate and fear.
   Kind of like Buscho did with terrorism.
   GOP still does.
   Cause after all that we went through from 2000-2008 at the hands of our gvt...all the law-breaking, the illegal acts, the theft and immorality....
   
   This is blown-off, treated as if it's nothing-- and this GOP is going after Obama and Islam.... The "other" to their Judeo-Christian dominance.
   
   Zen sentiments:
   Everything fights to survive
   Give evil nothing to oppose, and it will go away of its own accord
   
   Keep on Keeping on America.....the old will die even if it has to go down fighting.
   NOW I see the wisdom of Obama: We are interested in Moving Forward, not punishing the past.
   
   Cause me? I want those bastards to PAY!  Guess it's not my call. Karma will take care of it.
   We all write our own destiny.

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      Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      LMC, I understand the fear of all things different that allows people to fogo the knowledge humans receive when they experience something or someone new to them or different from them. Considering how determined a large portion of this country is to never, ever, experience anything new or different, the lack of education so many in this country take pride in showing the world, is easier to understand.
      
      This declining interest in educating our youth is starting to have national implications.
      
      http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art … 76f6c1d4c9
      
      1 in 4 high school graduates can't pass basic military extrance exams. The schools no longer have any interest in teaching the children anything based in truth. These same students get their daily news from one of many sources that are more concerned with ratings than the truth. A large portion of this country thinks thats just dandy in their opinion. Let's dumb down an entire generation or two in order to protect our love of lies and ignorance.
      
      As another said it is not just Fox that lies to the general public over the public airways they lease from the American people. All news media sources now celebrate the right to do so that Fox news fought for and won in a Florida court room. The lawyers representing Fox stated on the record, they knew they published outright lies and felt that "Freedom of Speech" gave them this right. The court agrred with them.
      
      Now to the faithful Fox viewers...If the people working for Fox know and admit that they lie to you, why do you insist on agrueing with them and any other who repeats this bit of fact? Oh that's right, you have no interest in the truth do you?
      
      If I told you that every other word out of my mouth was a lie, the only way you would spread these lies as truth appearently is if, I am wearing a Faux News Sports jacket and sitting on Bill O'Liely's lap.
      
      Good point about Beck's 180 degree turn on his views. Too bad those who believe the new version don't have the ability to remember anything before the last 5 sec blub was posted by Fox. You see the same problem in their love of Ronald Reagan and Dubya. They ignore the facts about these people and spread the lies the Repubs spread about them. It's easy to fact check most claims made by any elected officials. All that is required is a desire for the truth. The Repubs have definately developed an effective vaccine that keeps truth from ever getting close to the loyal believer.
      
      Faith is a fine thing for some people. When faith is used to ignore and contradict truth and fact, we have a problem Houston.
      
      Bottom line in my opinion is, this country is becoming dumber and dumber every year and the Repubs and Fox News are more than willing to profit from it and ruin this country by doing so.
      
      Some people get upset when you call them stupid. They are in fact too stupid to realize how they are being lied to. Add to this that they fail to realize there is another way to go thru life other than stupid. Try learning something.

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   BillyDRitchieposted 12 years ago

   Gee, with a title like "FOX News Makes You Stupid", there's no possible way that this study could be in any way, oh I don't know, BIASED or anything, right?

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      Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The study was not titled that and did not deliberately target FOX.
      
      In the interest of fair play...from the same article
      
      'By the way, the rest of the media was not blameless. CNN and the broadcast network news operations fared only slightly better in many cases. Even MSNBC, which had the best record of accurately informing viewers, has a ways to go before it can brag about it."

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         C.J. Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the dose of fairness. I guess we can see that it's a cable news problem in general.

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            Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            C.J. This problem goes way beyond the cable news. 9 out of the 11 possible Republican canidates for 2012 all work for the Faux News Network. Is this due to an overwhelming abundence of truthfullness at Fox/Republican Headquarters?
            
            Stupid is as Stupid does is the new national motto for America. Let's change some more history lessons and see if we can make American students the laughing stock of the industialized countries of this world. Never mind, they already are, good job America.

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      PrettyPantherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      How many studies will it take for you to accept the validity of similar conclusions?

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      Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Billy, Three seperate studies all show the same results. I suppose you feel that they are all biased, right? The only unbiased opinions are obviously those who agree with you and Fox, correct?

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   BobbiRantposted 12 years ago

   I never doubted for one minute that Fox News fries peoples brains.  Remember the 'this is your brain on drugs?'  Well, now it should replace the word drugs with Fox News.  The day Fox News tells the truth will because it was some mistake on the writers part. Good post.

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      BillyDRitchieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So I guess their breaking the story on George W. Bush's DWI arrest was a falsehood?  Really?
      
      How about their calling the Presidential race for Obama?  Do we now understand that was fabricated?
      
      Wow....

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         Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         So you had to go back what, 15 years or so to find an example of real journalism by Fox. I am now really impressed with the truthfullness of the Faux News Network. Thanks.

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   Reality Bytesposted 12 years ago

   All I can say is:  could you imagine a study of people who spend most of their waking day discussing opinions in forums?
   
   Not exacty Princeton now is it?
   
   
   Let's play a word game involving the letter Q.
   
   
   YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY, I so miss Sesame street.

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      Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There are other sources of learning out there besides Faux News and Sesame Street. If you look hard enough you might find a copy of "My Pet Goat" Reading this book will qualify you to be the president.
      
      Oh and by the way, Thanks for leaving Princeton for a moment and for discussing opinions in this forum.

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   Mikeydoesposted 12 years ago

   The OP is obviously affected by this as well. You can bet hes a democrat right?  For instance when you go on a forum and post this, just to get back at the other party. There is obviously something really stupid about that. There is no doubt that this is true, but it is not just Fox News, it is CNN and the rest of them as well.
   
   I live this problem every day of my life, my dad lives off of Fox News and my Aunt Lives off of CNN and the Democrat stations. All they do is talk bad about the other party and make people hate each other. My dad and aunt always fight and call eachother stupid behind their backs. All they talk about is "politics". My dad thinks I am an idiot for not paying attention to fox news, or any other news channel. I just shake my head and let him think that, those people who eat, sleep, and breathe these news channels really need a wake-up call. I only say that, because it does affect my life big time every day.
   
   The truth is, I get all the info I need from Hubpages and places like this. I get to see titles that you guys make and I get to decide if I want to read further in to it. Rather than having to watch the news which is always depressing.
   
   There are very few segments that I actually enjoy on the news. Sheppard Smith, I think his name is, on Fox News, does news from around the world(a small segment). He talks about real things and usually uplifting or funny stuff, not about other parties ETC. THAT IS NEWS. However I don't really know if he strays away from that after that segment.
   
   I like the real news, but that just doesn't happen on cable tv news any more.
   
   MSNBC has quality programs like Titans and American Greed, it does seem to be the best channel.
   
   EDIT also.
   
   100% of statistics are bulls$%^. So I won't bother to read those.

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      C.J. Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "The truth is, I get all the info I need from Hubpages and places like this."
      
      I feel the same. I prefer to read the news. I like Hubpages because it allows me to get a varried interpretation of the news I can't get from TV.

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      Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Actually the OP is an Independent. I know this because the Faux News Service told me so. Why do you assume that my posting the truth about Faux News was an attack on the Republican Party. Oh that's right, they are one in the same aren't they. Fair and Unbiased News for the uneducated and unfair and extremely biased Republicans.
      
      I have stated many time that all News Organizations enjoy the right to lie to their viewers that Faux News fought a court battle to secure for them. I also agree with you that this is affecting my life and the lives of those I care about the most. I also don't rely on any one or two oir three news services. When I see an article that interests me, I read it and then try to fact check it before making a statement about it. This just seems like common sense to me and I can't for the life of me figure out why so many people actually enjoy accepting the lies they are fed. I tend to get a lot of information about this country from news services outside of the influence of the our government and news services with an agenda. I have gotten calls from friends about a story Faux News had just broadcast and they love to point out how wrong I am. They never seem to have the same level of excitment when I show them the countless lies and fabrications that went into the story the swallowed whole. Doesn't change their mind about Faux News, ever. I can only assume they are like millions of other Americans that actually preffer to be lied to. "They Can't Handle The Truth" with a poorly executed Jack Nicholson impersonation.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   Correlations studies are open to interpretation.  Just to be devil's advocate, maybe people with the weakest understanding tune onto Fox because it is such a good source of info?

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      Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You had me right up until the words "such a good source of info". You will need to clarify that one. I do quite a bit of fact checking on Fuax News stories as I get feeds from the and the Newsmax printed version. I don't have a lot of success. The distortions, misquotes, and outright lies I have to wade thru makes it easier to undertand why most don't bother. Faux News anchors get daily emails explaining what they are allowed to discuss and what they aren't to touch that day. They also get instructions on what their opinions are to be that day from above. Bottom line is that Faux News is nothing more than a training ground for future republican canidates for office. If they have good rating, they get to be an elected Republican mouthpiece rather than just a paid one.

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   Mishaposted 12 years ago

   Judging by the thread title, Fox is quite successful

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      Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You lost me on that one, please explain

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         Mishaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Easy - the title is stupid

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            Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Well that cleared that confusion right up. I will admit that I have been spending countless hours trying to teach that title a thing or two but have had no luck so far. IQ is still hovering right above that of the average Faux Fanatic.
            
            Now the only problem I have with your statement is that I am not a Faux News Fan or viewer. So are you saying that Faux News is so bad it can turn even people who dont watch it or believe it into Republicans?
            
            Please be aware of this bit of information. I don't mind if you also post an intelligent remark or two occassionally, in addition to the variety you have chosen so far. Or not, either way. up to you.

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               Mishaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Nah, but it can persuade them into writing stupid titles
               
               And I don't see any possibility for intelligent communication about politics with a person who seriously believes dems are better than reps, or vice versa - hence the "variety" of my remarks.

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                  Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks for stopping by anyway Misha. Your smiley faces will be missed.

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   Paul Wingertposted 12 years ago

   I never liked Fox Noise (aka The Republican Fundraiser Network)to begin with because of their inaccuracies and becasue of right wing nutcases like the chalk board fetish guy, Beck and Hannidy. Then they added Palin in to the lineup and that's when Fox News became a sitcome.

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      fits3x100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Stump! As always I love your posts. I do not usually tune into News programs. I would have to accept a label to choose anyone of them. They all have their audience to numb. As long as the American masses can be fooled into separating themselves from their power, (each other) they can be easily fed the crap that all of these institutions serve up.
      Was just reading a bio on N. Tesla. The way a very few very powerful men stole the potential of what he intended to bless the masses with is mind boggling. The "rich few" are not those earning 200k/yr. The real power is in the hands of  a very few...none of which are Republican or...Democrat...they could care less...they are going to steer Legislation, the Judiciary, and the Executive branch to exactly where they want them to go. And as long as "We the People", are busy pissing in each others Wheaties, we can't unify long enough to be taken seriously. Please read "A Thomas Jefferson Education" and "The coming American Aristocracy" both by Oliver DeMille. "The last Child in the woods "is another eye opening work.
      And hey Stump? God Bless you and yours this Holiday Season !

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      Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Happy Holidays Fits. Thanks for the tips on reading material.
      
      If I didn't live in the bible belt I wouldn't pay as much attention to Fox news as I do. It's always useful to have a heads up on what the enemies of truth will be saying before venturing out among them.
      
      Another problem in this country is the short attention span and memory of the average citizen. Bush has only been out of office 2 years and already his image is improving. Of course it doesn't hurt that fox news is there in his corner chanting go dubya go dubya.to the brain dead viewers. So we havea low intelligence level combined with a faulty memory. They cant remember the truth and don't know hot or have any intrerest in, verifying what they see.
      
      This is the best example of Hitler's quote I have ever seen in action. You know the one...What luck for rulers that those they govern don't think.
      
      I hope this holiday season is everything the little ones dream of it being. No greater joy can be found anywhere than what's found on the faces of the children. Peace my friend.

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         Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         
         Increasing wars and bombing countries we are not at war with is TERRIBLE.  oh wait, that is Obama doing that!
         
         nevermind

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            Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Are you saying that Obama watches Fox News?

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               Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               He might not watch it. I bet members of his staff (interns) watch it.
               
               Gotta grab those soundbytes for ammunition. LOL

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    Helpful Hannaposted 12 years ago

    I try not to watch the news.  I think they share what they want in the way they want people to perceive it.  It's tough to know who to trust.

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years ago

    

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    Mighty Momposted 12 years ago

    Of COURSE Bush's image is improving.
    The American public has the attention span of a gnat.
    What's that famous line... "those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it" ...?
    The 2008 election was "our" repudiation (only 8 years too late) of Bush/Cheney policies.
    The 2010 election was repudiation of our repudiation.
    
    Meanwhile, all blame over both the Iraq War and Afghanistan War -- started by BUSH -- has 100% shifted to Obama.
    Right. It's ALL Obama's fault.
    I suggest we put W up for canonization!

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       Or just in front of a cannon.

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          Stump Parrishposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Ok you 2 got me chuckling, stop it before I break out in fits of uncontrollable laughter.
          Saint Dubya...patron saint of pet goats, or perhaps, the Patron Saint of Faux News Viewers? Oh wait, Reagan's already wearing that robe.

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       uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       It is an often misquoted or incompletely quoted admonition for you "progressives" from philosopher George Santayana.
       
       "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
       
       
       My variation on that quote is - History is that which we are doomed to repeat.  We stand on the shoulders of giants and in our contemporary conceit believe that we are looking down at Lilliputians.  We will always embrace our doom and call it progress as another generation seeks to fire up the ovens and start a pile of shoes and gold teeth. The tyrant always rides a horse he has named progress.  Happy Hope and Change.

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       Mishaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       You mean he finished the wars as he has promised? Somehow I did not notice this. Come on MM, you can do better than that

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          uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Didn't President Shining Handsome Obama campaign on Iraq being the wrong war and Afghanistan being the real war that GWB ignored?  Didn't SHO campaign on closing Gitmo?  Ending rendition?  Ending Sneak and Peek?  Seems that if you are continuing the policies of your predecessor and have the power and support to end those policies but do not than they become your policies. Ironically, SHO just signed a bill over turning a Bill Clinton policy just days after signing a bill that reasserted a GWB policy.  I laughed and laughed - especially because "don't ask, don't tell" will make a necessary come back in a very short time as recruitment numbers plummet and the international threat grows.

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             TK, How many ridiculous assertions can you cram into a single post?  Your Obamaphobia and Fox News mandated Bushkissing are to blame for ridiculous assertions such as "don't ask, don't tell" will make a necessary come back in a very short time as recruitment numbers plummet and the international threat grows.
             
             No wonder your delusions cause you so much laughter.

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                uncorrectedvisionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Let's wait and see.  Nice contradiction - thanks for the usual meaningful exchange. Shining Handsome's Justice Department has indeed sought an expansion of Patriot Act investigative (sneak and peek) provisions - Assertion #1.  #2  SHO did indeed say that Afghanistan was the war we should be fighting.  #3  SHO did say he would close Gitmo in his first year - it is still open. #4  There has been, revealed by your buddy Jullian A., an expansion of rendition by the SHO administration.  #5  "Don't Ask Don't Tell" was a Clinton policy - SHO just over turned it. #6 SHO just signed a bill reasserting the GWB "tax cuts." 
                
                Where is the bush kissing or the SHO phobia - those are the assertions where are they wrong?

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          Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          That promise is in the process of being kept.  http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/pro … r-in-iraq/
          
          Maybe your urgency to bash MM clouded the reasoning behind your post.

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             Mishaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             How many more years we need to wait for it to be completed Ron? Just set some point in future you think it will be done, and we will talk when we get there
             
             And I certainly am not bashing MM, I love her

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    Mighty Momposted 12 years ago

    Or send him hunting with Cheney. Or Palin.

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Or to an Army barracks with openly gay soldiers. (I've heard this will have catastrophic consequences)

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       fits3x100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       LOL.... Ya know what I really do Love about these Hubs? I don't care if the responses are good, or bad,...as long as they're not indifferent...that is the crisis... The other great quote  from Hitler Stumpman is the one about the size  of lies... It's far easier to make the masses believe the outrageous than the possible....  Happy Holidays everyone! Here's hoping that in the New Year, we all get closer to the Truth, and more willing to Act on it, and not just discuss it...Till then, I'm really glad to find a place where folks gather to cipher and such...

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