How About a Donald Trump/Donald Rumsfeld Ticket?

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   I like and respect both men.  For about the same reasons. 
   
   Both men tell it like it is and they don't suffer fools gladly.   Also both know how to win.  Both men can handle themselves in a crisis.  Both have good self deprecating humor.  Both genuinely respect excellence wherever they find it.
   
   I think it would be an interesting ticket.

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      Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      donald rumsfeld is a sack of shit, and Trump isn't really president material.
      
      It would fail horribly.

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         tritrainposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         And two wrongs don't make a right(y).

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Whatever floats your boat...
      
      Can 2 men form a circle?

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         DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Can two men form a jerk?

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      Texasbetaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The scary thing is that you are serious. You really aren't kidding. This is the point where ignorance loses the funny appeal and actually becomes dangerous.

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   lady_love158posted 13 years ago

   I just can't take Trump seriously. He's changed parties several times. I think while Trump is likeable he really isn't conservative.... I don't trust him.

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      AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I guess I'm blinded by his charisma.  I can't really see him glad handing at a county fair though.  Especially on a windy day.
      
      It is kind of surprising how many people do like him. 
      
      Can you imagine a Trump White House decor wise?  He'd have to have his name on it and he'd probably want the dome gilded.

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         PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         "I guess I'm blinded by his charisma."
         
         Seriously? 

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         DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         AnnCee... I don't know - I find Trump about as charismatic as a chain saw. There is something about him - hard to put my finger on. I don't think he would survive the scrutiny instead his private and personal life. He is no boy scout.

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   livelongerposted 13 years ago

   Yes, please!
   
   Maybe with Sarah Palin as Secretary of State, and Michele Bachmann for Secretary for Anti-Communist Affairs. And don't forget Huckabee for Preacher-in-Chief.
   
   

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      LaLo as Press Secretary.  Every briefing would start with, "according to Americanthinker.com..." followed by groans from the assembled reporters.

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         livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         By briefings you mean interviews by Sean Hannity on FoxNews, right?

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            Patty Inglish, MSposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hanity lost my attention compleltely after Alan Colmes left Hanity & Colmes. Not good alone.

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               BillyDRitchieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Hannity was alone even when Colmes was on the show.  Colmes just didn't have enough personality or "oomph" to share the set with Sean.....

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Oh wait!   Trump would stay at the uber lavish southern White House.  He already owns it.

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Rummy is a genius and I'd prefer him for president but he may be a little too old.
   
   The Unknown
   As we know,
   There are known knowns.
   There are things we know we know.
   We also know
   There are known unknowns.
   That is to say
   We know there are some things
   We do not know.
   But there are also unknown unknowns,
   The ones we don't know
   We don't know.
   
   —Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing
   
   
   
   Happenings
   You're going to be told lots of things.
   You get told things every day that don't happen.
   
   It doesn't seem to bother people, they don't—
   It's printed in the press.
   The world thinks all these things happen.
   They never happened.
   
   Everyone's so eager to get the story
   Before in fact the story's there
   That the world is constantly being fed
   Things that haven't happened.
   
   All I can tell you is,
   It hasn't happened.
   It's going to happen.
   
   —Feb. 28, 2003, Department of Defense briefing

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   So Trump/Rumsfeld ticket.
   Would they be known as "The Donalds"?

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      AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.     Gotta admit it would be fun.

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         Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Not directing this at you personally, AnnCee.
         But a response like "it would be FUN" really concerns me. And frankly, has since the 2008 campaign (on both sides).
         
         We (as a population) are really blurring the line between entertainment and politics. When we judge our candidates on their "shininess" or being "easy on the eyes" or charisma only, we really run the risk of choosing form over substance.
         
         I really do wonder, based on many things, if we haven't dumbed (I almost wrote "dummed" -- proving my own point )
         down our citizenry to the point where were are incapable of assessing and judging anything on a level deeper than soundbites like, "You're Fired!"
         
         Sorry for the downer rant. I've got it out of my system now.

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            AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The thread is just a bit of fun.
            
            I think we're in big trouble if Americans would even consider someone like Donald Trump for president.  And they are.  And we are.  In trouble.
            
            Neither party can seem to find a decent candidate for years.  As far as I'm concerned Reagan was the last president of any stature.  In these tremendously troubled time we do need a good leader and a good man.

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               Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               ... or a good WOman!
               
               I knew you posted this as a bit o' fun. I also agree that we are in big old trouble. No idea how to fix the broken system, tho.
               Wish I did. Actually, I wish we all had the courage to chuck out people who aren't willing to work TOGETHER to work for US

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         Patty Inglish, MSposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         It would be fun, as in fun like the Pat Paulsen run long ago or the Picard/Ricker ticket some comics did.

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            AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Fun watching them make interviewers and candidates own their own words.   I like that quality in both men.  They don't let the media or anyone else use them as yoyo's.

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   I would prefer to see Donald Duck rather than Donald Trump.

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   ewd76posted 13 years ago

   At least Trump would knowhow to balance the budget by saying "You're fired" to all the lazy incompetent government workers.

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Decisiveness is sorely lacking in this administration for sure.  Obama has brought the art of holding a wet finger to the wind to a whole new level.

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    AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

    Donald Rumsfeld is an honorable man who has served his country with honor and distinction for practically his whole life.  We sleep safer because of him and men like him.
    
    Anyone notice Obama is still using the kinetic activity plan Rumsfeld helped design?

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       PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       What are your standards for honor?
       
       Rumsfeld Sought Plan For Iraq Strike Hours After 9/11 Attack
       
       
       
       

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          AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Go read his book.   Put politics aside for a minute and look at the situation with unbiased eyes.  Good for the mind.
          
          
          Edit:  No insult intended, not implying anything about your mind as it exists.  Not being combative. Please don't hurt me.

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             PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I have not read his book, but my husband, who is a conservative and a registered Republican (although seriously re-thinking that), has read it.  I asked him what he thought about Rumsfeld after reading the book and he said that Rumsfeld was very good at pointing out the failures and shortcomings of other officials, but not very good at taking responsibility for much of anything happened under his watch.  I asked him if he thought I should read it, and he said, "only if you want to get pissed off."  I trust my husband's judgment immensely, even though we fundamentally disagree on many economic and military issues.
             
             So, thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll pass.

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                AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Well at any rate your husband cancels you out.   He thinking of voting for Barack Hussein Obama this time?

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                   PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   He voted for Obama last time because he has an immense dislike for John McCain.  The last conversation we had on the subject, he said he doesn't want to vote for Obama again, but doesn't see a decent Republican candidate to vote for, either.  So, it's too early to say.
                   
                   By the way, he's quite pleased with the way Obama has handled the Libyan situation and generally respects his foreign policy decisions.  It's his economic policies that he doesn't like.

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                      DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      PP, many of my conservative friends and loved ones have said the same thing - the Tea Party has really turned off the moderate Republican of yesteryear.

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                   PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   By the way, I don't think he cancels me out because I am more politically active in the community.  I think that gives me a little edge. 

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                   livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   I look forward to voting for Barack HUSSEIN Obama again. Because I'm an American.
                   
                   Those who only want to vote for someone with Northern European heritage should...move to Northern Europe.

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                      AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      I throw the Hussein in occasionally.  Why? 
                      
                      It's when I remember that during the campaign it was politically incorrect to mention his middle name.
                      
                      But then, when he was inaugurated he chose to speak the name that must not be spoken.   
                      
                      "In your face, suckas!"   That's what I believe he was saying.

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                         livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         I believe the political correctness comes from thinking that if you have a non-European, non-Christian name, then that makes you suspect and certainly unelectable. Many Democrats bristled at this insinuation, and I saw many of my liberal friends change their names on Facebook, for instance, to have Hussein as their middle name. In the end, Obama's middle name was not a liability - among liberals...
                         
                         It's certainly the case among conservatives. It's an unspoken, politically correct fact that you must be white and Protestant to win the Republican nomination.
                         
                         Maybe Romney will win the nomination in 2012 and break this politically-correct barrier. What do you think?
                         
                         I personally think his Mormonism will be his downfall. There is only one politically-correct religion among conservatives.
                         
                         *shhhh*

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             DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             AnnCee, 
             Read Bob Woodward's book "State of Denial." I think it is fairly accurate at least as judged by the critics. Woodward interviewed the hell of Rumsfield as well an many others. Rumsfield character and management come into serious question in the book. And Woodward is a conservative. It's a good read; a little scathing on the Bush administration though...

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                AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I will read that, DT.   I have lots of questions about Bush.  Rumsfeld not so much.   He's an open book about his life and his decisions.  I wish Bush had listened to him more.

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    In 2012 what will Americans be looking for as the top experience/expertise in their president?
    1. Military
    2. Foreign policy
    3. Economics
    4. Education
    5. Social policies/programs
    6. Conservative values
    7. General leadership/charisma
    8. None of the above/other?

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       AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       7
       
       We're exhausted with the obambulating mystery man in the White House.
       
       We want someone we feel loves America.
       
       Not someone who sat in a church under a man for 20 years who shouted, "Not God bless America, God damn America!!"
       
       It's too bizarre.   Americans are like disillusioned cult members wandering back into the daylight, rubbing our eyes and looking for normalcy.

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    #7. Hmmm.That's a really interesting response, AnnCee.
    Cuz that's what we went for in 2008. Charisma.
    I think charisma can be deceiving.
    Obviously, so do you (?).

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    secularist10posted 13 years ago

    The fact of the matter is that a Donald Trump administration would be no worse than any of the other alternatives. It would just be different, but not worse.

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    AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

    First lady Louisa Adams was born in England.   She's the only foreign born first lady so far.
    
    How would Americans feel about a Russian born first lady?

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       livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Are you talking about Mel Gibson, or are you confusing Russia with Slovenia?

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