What makes so many people compare the sociopolitical beliefs of Donald Trump to

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  1. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago

    What makes so many people compare the sociopolitical beliefs of Donald Trump to that of

    Adolf Hitler?  Are such comparison far-fetched or valid? Why?  Why not? There are those very fearful that Donald Trump is in the presidential race.  They hope that Donald Trump won't be a presidential contender.  Eva Schloss, a holocaust survivor & stepsister of the late Anne Frank compared Mr. Trump to Hitler in terms of the former's immigration policies.  Many view Mr. Trump as an out-of-control dictator who is clearly anti-democracy.

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  2. Austinstar profile image86
    Austinstarposted 2 years ago

    Really? This needs to be asked? I suppose if one is a raving racist, they might not see the comparison - because racists have such limited brain function.
    This would probably best be compared by the use of a chart. But I'll give it a go:
    Both Hitler and Trump claim to be religious/Christian
    Both Hitler and Trump want to eliminate entire races of humanity
    Both Hitler and Trump - narcissists to the max
    Both Hitler and Trump - have god complexes and claim to be "superior" to mere mortals.
    Both Hitler and Trump - charismatic hypnotists that cause people to not be able to look away during their performances (like watching a train wreck)
    Both Hitler and Trump have mindless followers that support them "no matter how horrific they claim to be"
    Both Hitler and Trump have seriously bad hairstyles
    Both Hitler and Trump have fascist attitudes toward government
    Both Hitler and Trump crave a dictatorship with themselves as supreme leader.
    Even physically, these two men are a lot alike.
    Compare Trump's Wall to Hitler's Stalags - Both designed to eliminate "lower" classes of people. (Lower classes being their opinion of anyone not of a "pure race".)
    Yep, it's really quite difficult to tell these two apart from one another. Obviously, their rabid fans cannot tell the difference.

    1. Readmikenow profile image94
      Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You lost me with "eliminate entire races of humanity." Huh? Then you further lost me with "seriously bad hairstyles." I found "fascist attitudes toward government" funny.It's obvious you have no idea the concept of fascism. He's too greedy for that.

    2. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      LOL! I was not the first to compare the hairstyles. I got that bit from one of the late shows. Isn't fascism "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization."? it applies to Trump the KKK of Mexican/Muslim

    3. Readmikenow profile image94
      Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe, but it is also involves a command and control economy like in Italy before WWII. Trump is a greedy capitalist who likes being rich with a market economy. It is a type of governing. The KKK is not a governmental organization,  Good answer.

    4. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
      M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Austinstar appears to have a rather limited knowledge of history.  Easy Hub if you really don't understand what came before. Comparisons should have facts to substantiate the argument. His hair! Please. It sounds like something he would say.

    5. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Did you have to walk up 3 flights of stairs to get smart enough to insult me like that? M G? You must be one of the Trump Trolls i have heard about.

    6. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
      M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      If the shoe fits....

    7. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Hairstyle, yes. The Dutch populist right wing politician Geert Wilders also has a incredible terrible hairstyle...he's islamofobic too and uses fear to gain votes.

  3. bradmasterOCcal profile image39
    bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years ago

    Why aren't the PC police on this comparison?
    Those people that make that comparison apparently have no real knowledge on what Hitler really did from WWI through his death in WWII.

    When a person's argument is mostly based on character assassination, then it is more of emotional rant rather than an intelligent argument based on the facts.

    Calling names is not a valid argument.


    It is not my job to educate these people, but I can criticize them for their ridiculous accusations.

    1. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Trump doesn't believe in being politically correct - ever! What PC police? There is no such thing anyway? Being PC is just another way to say - Be Polite to people!

    2. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
      M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      bradmasterOCcal's comment makes it sound as though someone is unjustly assassinating Hitler's character. Read it again and see what I mean!

    3. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Respect and political correctness must be earned. It is a courtesy, not an entitlement. Strangely enough, it costs nothing to be nice to people instead of mean spirited or hateful.

    4. bradmasterOCcal profile image39
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Being PC translate today as don't talk about the real issues, ignore should be its synonym.

    5. ValKaras profile image86
      ValKarasposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Just wondering: Do people still believe in "the most powerful man on earth"? Do you know of ANY prez  who didn't have a bunch of super influential and a bunch of advising dudes behind his "throne" that told him what to do? No "Hitlers" anymore.

    6. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      There are still loads of xenophobic dictators on this planet Vladimir.

    7. ValKaras profile image86
      ValKarasposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Peter: Even those with Hitler's dream can't act like him  -  they would have by now if they could. Those "influential behind the throne" are those with a finger close to their own button some thousands of miles away sending a clear message..

    8. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      don't count on it. Genocide is still happening. Child armies in Angola and Congo, Genocide in former Yugoslavia and Rwanda. The dictators in South America in the 80's. Civilization is a thin and fragile cosmetic. Extreme politics are dangerous.

    9. ValKaras profile image86
      ValKarasposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Peter, by "mentality of Hitler" we mean an ambition to conquer the world, not about localized incidents. I just don't see Trump fitting the description, "hair"-or-not.

    10. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You can compare Hitler and Trump in the sense that they both use/used scape goat tactics in their campaigns. NOT everything that happend after Hitlers election as bundeskanzler.

  4. ValKaras profile image86
    ValKarasposted 2 years ago

    Whoever is making that comparison must have some naïve insight  into the way American government operates. American president doesn't have the power of a dictator, and he would be impeached if he ever tried to act like one. All major decisions have to be approved by either senate or congress or both, and democracy  -  no matter what flaws it may contain  -  is still democracy, not an autocracy of an Adolph Hitler style.

    Actually, for every smart observer of all presidential elections so far, it is more than expectable that they will try to drag Trump's name through the mud any which way they can. If you ask me, it's a little too low blow to compare him to that lunatic. There has to be a limit dictated by simple decency. What if he happens to become a president? Is that going to look good on American people that some compared their president to Adolph Hitler? We are not talking freedom of speech here, but something more basically human.

  5. Medvekoma profile image82
    Medvekomaposted 2 years ago

    Because people are bound by Godwin's law:

    "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

    All in all, people are conditioned to see an inherent evil in Hitler (who was but one of the many dictators that brought misery to mankind), and therefore when they seek to dub someone evil, they'll just compared them to Hitler.

    It's not about similarities, it's about feeling an inherent need to find similarities. If you look hard enough, you can compare Hitler to almost any politician.

    Never the less, some parts of the comparison are valid. The basis for a more academic comparison between Hitler and Trump could be their demagogue and populist politics that aims to find scapegoats and provide "solutions" to issues they crafted and orchestrated themselves.

    Apart from that, I don't think most "comparisons" are viable, going to go off Austinar's points here, I hope he doesn't mind.
    - The "claims to be a Christian" argument is a No-true-Scotsman fallacy
    - The comparison on terms of treatment of races is a slippery slope fallacy that concludes Trump would end up doing the same as Hitler (with no factual evidence he'd actually do)
    - The narcissism argument is an ad hominem fallacy
    - The mindless followers argument is a Texan Sharpshooter fallacy. All politicians have mindless followers.
    - The fascist attitude ... I don't think that stands. Trump is far more to the right in economics than to be able to form a fascist government. He's simply authoritarian, which is a conservative tendency nowadays and not a Nazi one.

    And indeed. Any comparison to Hitler disrespects those who suffered on his hand and should be avoided.

    1. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Btw, i am a "she".
      I agree with your assesment, but the general audience will be able to make the comparisons. Trump is basically a windbag narcissist, and could never equal the methodical exterminator Hitler.

    2. Medvekoma profile image82
      Medvekomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry about that, and sure. The general audience will keep hating both, not because they are similar, but because they are "hated" and any comparison to Hitler justifies this. Or at least justifies it in the eyes of the general audience.

  6. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
    M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years ago

    In 1930’s Germany Adolph Hitler filled the vacuum of the failed Weimar Republic, itself a product of the country’s defeat in World War I and the Great Recession. The German people were tired. Their very survival was in question. Hitler offered them hope that the nation would once again be strong and proud. He persecuted Jews and Communists as criminals and inferior by whipping up his audiences with hate speech. These so called enemies of the "Vaterland" were eventually separated from the rest of society and millions were murdered. We know all too well the eventual fate of Germany under a madman.

    President Obama is no Hindenburg forced by conspiracy to abdicate his office. It is a Constitutional requirement that he go. We have a system of laws. To be sure Donald Trump is not Adolph Hitler and his outrageous statements are just that. Any comparisons between the two are delusions of the extreme left.

    1. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      "Any comparisons between the two are delusions of the extreme left." And all the comparisons of Obama to Hitler are delusions of the extreme right. Amazing coincidence.

    2. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
      M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You'll need to talk to the extreme right for a comment on your thoughts. I voted twice for Obama. However that does not restrict me from stating that anyone who compares Trump to Hitler is probably a Sanders devotee and not a student of history.

    3. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I studied history, especially WWII, and i like Bernie. The most obvious comparison between Trump and Hitler is the blatant racism. But there are other comparisons. Bernie has nothing to do with this question, btw.

    4. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
      M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'm glad you like Bernie. I thought so.

  7. profile image0
    PeterStipposted 2 years ago

    What Hitler and Trump have in common is the same political strategy. That is: using a scapegoat to explain why things go wrong in a country.
    There are more populists that use the same strategy like Le Pen in France, Wilders in the Netherlands and the Golden Dawn in Greece.

    Politicians who uses scapegoats politics should not be trusted. Full stop.
    They use fear to gain votes and fear is a terrible advisor.

    1. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
      M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Agree. You know your history.

    2. Ken Burgess profile image89
      Ken Burgessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      PeterStip said "Politicians who use scapegoats should not be trusted."
      OK that is what Obama did for his first 4 years, he blamed everything on Bush.  It is what Bill Clinton ran on.  I see your point.

    3. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Ken there is a huge difference in using a huge population, like the Mexicans or the Muslims as a scapegoat or a former President.

  8. tamarawilhite profile image91
    tamarawilhiteposted 2 years ago

    They are making the mistake that Donald Trump's nationalism is as equally bad as Hitler's nationalist socialist regime. And they ignore the socialist/communist regimes from Soviet Russia to Communist China that killed 100 million people last century.

    They think it is the nationalism that is dangerous, when it is the socialism/totalitarianism that is dangerous - and Trump isn't the latter.

    1. M G Del Baglivo profile image91
      M G Del Baglivoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Strongly agree. I keep making the point that anyone who views the two as equals has either forgotten history or never knew it. You make a very good distinction.

    2. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I have to correct that socialism had nothing to do with Hitler, Stalin or Mao.
      It's pure totalitarianism. Same you can say for the extreme right dictators like Pinochet in Chile and Franco in Spain.

    3. Austinstar profile image86
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Making comparisons  is NOT the same thing as saying they are equal! Why are you thinking that it is?

    4. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      By the way Hitler is seen as extreme right wing. And was sponsored by the elite and royalty.

  9. profile image52
    Oh Dearymeposted 2 years ago

    He's just a shill, put there to be so ridiculous that people favour Mephistopheles' daughter and vote her in. But people are so alien repellingly imbecilic he's being taken seriously.
    Only America could present the world with Dumbya as their president and I suppose the same selection 'committee' are now considering 'the hairpiece' as a plausible candidate.
    When I think of America, I think of Frankenstein.

  10. Ken Burgess profile image89
    Ken Burgessposted 2 years ago

    I would say it is the same tactic they used against Romney, and before him Bush, they compare him to Hitler because it works it is slander that has an effect.
    The problem is, it is getting old, and people who have been voting for a while see that every Republican or Tea-Party candidate seems to get labeled such.  Trump is a well known public personality, another reason why such charges don't stick so well.

  11. Credence2 profile image79
    Credence2posted 2 years ago

    The Trump campaign attracts authoritarians and uses the modus operandi of world famous tyrants. Blame domestic racial, ethnic and religious groups before half-witted anxious for any explanation as to why they seem to be economic losing ground, cleverly diverted from the real villians of which Trump is one.

    1. ValKaras profile image86
      ValKarasposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Credence - While you may be right about Trump, how many times Americans elected a "sweetheart" of a candidate only to regret it afterwards. Appearances can deceive.

    2. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Who do you see as a ""sweetheart" Vladimir? Nixon, Clinton, Reagan,Bush, Obama?

 
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